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O'Neill Dares Kerry: 'Sue Me'
NewsMax .com ^
| 8/22/04
| Carl Limbacher
Posted on 08/22/2004 1:04:33 PM PDT by kattracks
Swiftboat Veterans for the Truth spokesman John O'Neill dared Sen. John Kerry on Sunday to sue him for libel if, as Kerry's presidential campaign maintains, key claims in O'Neill's book "Unifit for Command" are not true.
"I invite him to sue me for libel," O'Neill, who co-authored the overnight bestseller with Jerome Corsi, told WABC Radio's Monica Crowley. "If he was actually in Cambodia on Christmas Eve and Christmas Day he should sue me. If, in fact, those other five [Swift]boats, on March the 13, [1969], if they all fled like he did, instead of staying like he knows they did, he should sue me."
O'Neill continued:
"If he didn't wound himself with a grenade - causing sort of a rice-fanny wound - and then reported it to the Navy as a water mine - if he didn't do that on March 13th should sue me."
O'Neill issued the challenge after noting that Kerry's campaign has gone to extraordinary lengths to supress the information in "Unfit for Command."
"On our first [Swiftvet] ad, he had two huge lawfirms send letters to every [TV] station, threatening to sue the stations themselves" if they ran the ad, the former Swiftboat commander told Crowley.
"The next thing he did was challenge the book's publisher, Regnery, indicating he would sue them if they continued printing the book," he added.
The bestselling author said that while Regnery declined to stop printing "Unfit," it offered to republish Kerry's 1971 book "The New Soldier," which chronicles the top Democrat's anti-war protests with a group bankrolled by Jane Fonda.
Kerry has declined to have "New Solidier" republished over the years and reportedly bought up most of the available copies in 1972, after his opponent in a congressional race used it to paint him as anti-American.
TOPICS: Breaking News; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: johnoneill; kerry; kerryaboynamedsue; lawsuit; oneillsueme; ricebutt; sosueme; sosuemealready; sueme; suemealready; swiftboatveterans
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posted on
08/22/2004 1:04:33 PM PDT
by
kattracks
To: kattracks
Ouch, O'Neil is SO GOOD.
I want him the next time I need an attorney!!!
What a hero.
2
posted on
08/22/2004 1:05:45 PM PDT
by
oreolady
(please,please RNC BRING THE TRUTH OUT, BUT GOOD)
To: kattracks
3
posted on
08/22/2004 1:06:36 PM PDT
by
tioga
(Flush the johns in '04!)
To: kattracks
I think Kerry will sue to make himself look innocent. By the time the case goes to trial, the election will be over and Kerry can drop the suit.
4
posted on
08/22/2004 1:07:17 PM PDT
by
NRA2BFree
(Life is not about how fast you run, or how high you climb, but how well you bounce!)
To: kattracks
This article has been posted to DoctorZins New News Blog!
5
posted on
08/22/2004 1:08:03 PM PDT
by
DoctorZIn
(Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
To: kattracks
Well, Kerry has a prominent member of the plaintiff bar about a liplock's-distance away from him at all times, so it ought to be easy to initiate the suit.
To: kattracks
The bestselling author said that while Regnery declined to stop printing "Unfit," it offered to republish Kerry's 1971 book "The New Soldier," which chronicles the top Democrat's anti-war protests with a group bankrolled by Jane Fonda. BWAHAHAHAHAHA!
7
posted on
08/22/2004 1:08:24 PM PDT
by
Steel Wolf
(Don't make me roll initiative...!)
To: kattracks
Excellent! O'Neil is terrific! God Bless him!
8
posted on
08/22/2004 1:08:30 PM PDT
by
areafiftyone
(Democrats = the hamster is dead but the wheel is still spinning)
To: NRA2BFree
He won't sue. Discovery can start the minute a judge accepts the case. ALL of Kerry's records will be up for grabs.
9
posted on
08/22/2004 1:09:01 PM PDT
by
sinkspur
("What's the point in being Pope if I can't wear the tiara?"--Cardinal Fanfani)
To: NRA2BFree
If Kerry does, it invites a countersuit that WON'T get dropped.
To: oreolady
"Regnery declined to stop printing "Unfit," it offered to republish Kerry's 1971 book "The New Soldier,""
Oh, Touche'! That is just a crack up. I used to be in the book business, that's as close to an 'in your face insult' as it gets.
To: cyncooper; Pukin Dog
O'Neill says "Bring it on!" to Kerry and says Kerry should sue him if anything he's saying isn't true!
12
posted on
08/22/2004 1:09:28 PM PDT
by
Peach
(The Clinton's pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
To: NRA2BFree
If Kerry sues, I wonder if he will have to sign the SF-180 to prove his case?
To: kattracks
14
posted on
08/22/2004 1:09:33 PM PDT
by
TomServo
("Meanwhile, the Midvale police visit his locker and find out why they call him 'Buzz'...")
To: kattracks
O'Neil KNOWS that he has the truth on his side.
redrock
15
posted on
08/22/2004 1:09:54 PM PDT
by
redrock
("Better a Shack in Heaven....than a Mansion in Hell"---My Grandma)
To: NRA2BFree
Kerry wouldn't sue to save his life!! The minute he sues, ALL of his records are available via subpoena and discovery!!!
Even if he lost the presidency, getting access to all of those records that he refuses to sign the release for would be the end of ANY political aspirations. KERRY KNOWS IT!!!
Let me assure you, O'Neill is FAR more shrewd than anyone may think!!!
16
posted on
08/22/2004 1:10:18 PM PDT
by
woodb01
To: kattracks
i'll bet kerry's sidekick, john edwards, is smacking his lips thinking he'd like to sink his lawyer teeth into kerry ........ oops
17
posted on
08/22/2004 1:10:19 PM PDT
by
InvisibleChurch
(I actually did vote for the $87 billion before I voted against it)
To: oreolady
18
posted on
08/22/2004 1:10:29 PM PDT
by
TheLion
To: OldFriend
19
posted on
08/22/2004 1:10:47 PM PDT
by
Peach
(The Clinton's pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
To: kattracks
"- causing sort of a rice-fanny wound - " Hold on!!
Kerry was into Fanny Rice? (Or vice versa?)
I didn't know that.
20
posted on
08/22/2004 1:11:20 PM PDT
by
NicknamedBob
(Champagne is just beer with the healthy stuff taken out.)
To: kattracks
Kerry has declined to have "New Solidier" republished over the years and reportedly bought up most of the available copies in 1972, after his opponent in a congressional race used it to paint him as anti-American. THIS is soooo rich. Bought up the copies of his own book to keep it from the public. Kerry is sooooooo toast!
21
posted on
08/22/2004 1:11:51 PM PDT
by
EggsAckley
(........."YO" is "OY" spelled backwards.........)
To: Steel Wolf
Sounds like a fair offer to me! ROFL!
To: kattracks
Not only are John O'Neill and his comrades in arms a great bunch of courageous guys, but O'Neill has a terrific sense of timing and strategy! This is a brilliant challenge. And offering to reprint Winter Soldier...priceless!!
To: Peach; ALOHA RONNIE; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; SAMWolf
O'Neil is putting his life on his line for his country one more time...
24
posted on
08/22/2004 1:13:27 PM PDT
by
risk
To: kattracks
O'Neill is terrific. I think I read that his 1971 debate with Kerry will be shown on CSPAN tonight. Is this true and what time, please?
25
posted on
08/22/2004 1:13:45 PM PDT
by
tirednvirginia
((But things are looking up!))
To: kattracks
Yeah baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
26
posted on
08/22/2004 1:14:07 PM PDT
by
soozla
("I used to think I was indecisive, but now I'm not too sure............"-John Kerry)
To: kattracks
Kerry won't sue O'Neil.
He'd rather just keep demanding Bush tell O'Neil to shut-up.
27
posted on
08/22/2004 1:14:12 PM PDT
by
Jorge
To: kattracks
My Favorite post for dims and trolls
who slither in here each day.
And the Lame Stream media
who find the real news on Free Republic,
then rewrite and spin the truth.
Mommy Heinz!
Help!
Look what the Washington Post said on 8/21/04
"Although Kerry campaign officials insist that they have published Kerry's full military records on their Web site (with the exception of medical records shown briefly to reporters earlier this year), they have not permitted independent access to his original Navy records. A Freedom of Information Act request by The Post for Kerry's records produced six pages of information. A spokesman for the Navy Personnel Command, Mike McClellan, said he was not authorized to release the full file, which consists of at least a hundred pages. "
Look! What the Harvard Crimson wrote about me in 1970
Published on Wednesday, February 18, 1970
John Kerry: A Navy Dove Runs for Congress
By SAMUEL Z. GOLDHABER
Crimson Staff Writer
"...One time Kerry was ordered to destroy a Viet Cong village
but disobeyed orders and suggested that the Navy Command
simply send in a Psychological Warfare team to be
friend the villagers with food, hospital supplies,
and better educational facilities."
Now my shipmates on the
USS GRIDLEY CG-21
are attacking me.
Click Here Mommy
and see what
the USS GRIDLEY crew say.
They say I told lies in Tour of Duty
GRIDLEY CREW ARE LIKE
SWIFT BOAT VETS MEANIES!
Mommy : People can get
MY real book here, right now, online FREE!!
I'm so proud of it!
The New Soldier,
By John Kerry
and Vietnam Veterans
Against the War

Mommy : Please don't be mad
about my hero Al Hubbard.
Head of Kerry's Vietnam Vets Against the War was Vietnam Vet phony
"Many of the stories were later shown to be fictional. Other so-called Vietnam veterans, such as the executive secretary of VVAW, Al Hubbard, a self-styled poet ("See what you've become, Amerika," ends one of his Vietnam odes),
turned out to have no record of service in Vietnam."
Mommy : Why does McCain
still campaign with Bush?
Mommy : Why doesn't Al Gore defend me?
He is a Vietnam Vet.
Mommy : Did Hillary
"leak" FBI Files on me?
I even used her famous slogan?
"Kerry entered and abandoned Vietnamese village and slaughtered domestic animals
owned by the civilians and burned down their homes with his Zippo lighter."

It only takes one idiot to raze a village!
(My original response!)
Mommy : Where is Ted Kennedy?


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posted on
08/22/2004 1:14:28 PM PDT
by
68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
(Hanoi Jane and Hanoi Kerry sitting in a tree, sitting in a tree F-R-E-N-C-H-I-N-G)
To: kattracks
I am really enjoying all of these articles about the junior Senator from my State. I have disliked him as my Senator and years ago as Lt. Governor here but nobody would ever listen to me!
29
posted on
08/22/2004 1:14:29 PM PDT
by
Radix
(John Kerry is finally not going to do a 180, especially when it comes to releasing his form 180!)
To: kattracks
Is there any chance that a copy of "The New Soldier" can be located, scanned to text, and put online?
30
posted on
08/22/2004 1:15:00 PM PDT
by
Grig
To: kattracks
31
posted on
08/22/2004 1:15:03 PM PDT
by
woodb01
To: kattracks
Kerry has declined to have "New Solidier" republished over the years and reportedly bought up most of the available copies in 1972, after his opponent in a congressional race used it to paint him as anti-American.Another reason why copyright should be for limited term, instead indefinitely longer than a human lifetime is to prevent the suppression of embarrassing disclosures...
32
posted on
08/22/2004 1:16:15 PM PDT
by
no-s
To: sinkspur
Also, under New York Times versus Sullivan, Kerry would have to prove "actual malice," which is very, very tough to prove. O'Neill is smart to issue the challenge--no way in hell Kerry can sue O'Neill.
33
posted on
08/22/2004 1:16:25 PM PDT
by
maro
To: kattracks
I'm running out of popcorn, this is awesome!!!!!!!
<|:-)~~
34
posted on
08/22/2004 1:16:36 PM PDT
by
JoeSixPack1
(Kerry couldn't have gone to Sears in Cambodia Christmas day! They were closed!)
To: kattracks
To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
O'Neil
UNDERSTANDS what "Duty....Honour...Country' means.
If need be it seems that he will '..die with his boots on.'
redrock
36
posted on
08/22/2004 1:17:03 PM PDT
by
redrock
("Better a Shack in Heaven....than a Mansion in Hell"---My Grandma)
To: kattracks
37
posted on
08/22/2004 1:17:57 PM PDT
by
TigersEye
(Intellectuals only exist if you think they do!)
To: NicknamedBob
"Kerry was into Fanny Rice? (Or vice versa?)" Well, Gary Hart had DONNA Rice, didn't he?????? ;^)
Sorry, I jes' coun't hep mysef....
38
posted on
08/22/2004 1:18:02 PM PDT
by
soozla
("I used to think I was indecisive, but now I'm not too sure............"-John Kerry)
To: Steel Wolf
Who owns the rights to New Soldier??
39
posted on
08/22/2004 1:18:39 PM PDT
by
Dog
(If he had shown up for Intelligence Committee hearings he would notice he wasn't vice chairman.")
To: ncpatriot
No, a court order could also force the records open.
To: tirednvirginia
To: NRA2BFree
I am not a lawyer, but if Kerry sues, O'Neill will immediately file a counter suit. If Kerry wins the election, he will be faced with a Clinton-like problem of a civil suit hanging over him, in which he could be compelled to testify under oath and produce documents. If Kerry initiates the litigation, my guess is that it would make it more difficult for a judge to allow him to delay judgment day.
There is no way that Kerry can afford to take a chance on any civil litigation involving O'Neill, particularly when he has no chance of prevailing.
Even if a handful of Swiftvets had signed false affidavits, Kerry would have to prove by a preponderance of evidence that O'Neill knew that some of the claims were false. O'Neill has been very careful to require the Swiftvets to sign sworn affidavits before he published their statements in his book.
O'Neill knew what a litigious, lying weasel Kerry is when he decided to expose him as such.
To: Grig
Great idea. If this could be done, it would be good to have the cover picture juxtaposed somehow with the Iwo Jima Memorial.
43
posted on
08/22/2004 1:20:34 PM PDT
by
rmgatto
To: sinkspur
He won't sue. Discovery can start the minute a judge accepts the case. ALL of Kerry's records will be up for grabs.That's good to know. He'll want to keep that from happening.
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posted on
08/22/2004 1:21:09 PM PDT
by
NRA2BFree
(Life is not about how fast you run, or how high you climb, but how well you bounce!)
To: TigersEye
I've seen the debate on the streaming video but I want my husbnd to see it for himself on tv. Will the debate be shown again tonight on CSPAN?
45
posted on
08/22/2004 1:21:27 PM PDT
by
tirednvirginia
((But things are looking up!))
To: EggsAckley
Kerry is sooooooo toast! Let's not get too overconfident. Kerry has the force of the mainstream media on his side. All the stuff we know about him - the lies, the flipflops - is not being reported, and Joe Sixpack doesn't have a clue. He knows only what he reads from the AP dispatches or on the network news, and we all know that those sources report nothing negative about Kerry. It's up to us to spread the word about the Vietnam lies.
To: EggsAckley
47
posted on
08/22/2004 1:22:54 PM PDT
by
babygene
(Viable after 87 trimesters)
To: sinkspur
That is what I thought. Maybe you can answer me something .....could O'Neills publisher republish New Soldier?
48
posted on
08/22/2004 1:24:20 PM PDT
by
Dog
(If he had shown up for Intelligence Committee hearings he would notice he wasn't vice chairman.")
To: kattracks
I think there's a basic principle in the law known as "the truth is an absolute defense", so O'Neill clearly has nothing to worry about.
49
posted on
08/22/2004 1:24:58 PM PDT
by
jpl
("Go balloons, go ballons! Confetti, confetti, where's the confetti?" - Don Mischer)
To: sinkspur
He won't sue. Discovery can start the minute a judge accepts the case. ALL of Kerry's records will be up for grabs.Exactly. It calls Kerry's bluff and compels Kerry, not O'Neil, put up or shut up. John Kery has built his life on less than the truth. To shine the light of compelled scrutiny on Kerrys actual life, will only confirm the validity of the title of; "Unfit for Command".
50
posted on
08/22/2004 1:25:00 PM PDT
by
elbucko
(A Feral Republican)
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