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McDermott's Ethics
Wall Street Journal ^ | August 23, 2004 | Editorial

Posted on 08/23/2004 5:41:51 AM PDT by OESY

Dirty tricks aren't exactly unheard of in politics. But one of the more notorious examples in recent memory neared a conclusion Friday when a federal judge in Washington, D.C., ruled that the First Amendment doesn't apply when the information in question has been stolen.

Judge Thomas Hogan ruled that Seattle-area Congressman James McDermott had no constitutional right to leak to the press a tape of cell-phone conversation he knew had been obtained illegally. The case dates back to 1996 and the House ethics committee's investigation into then-Speaker Newt Gingrich.

Representative John Boehner, a Republican, sued Mr. McDermott, a Democrat, after a Florida couple, using a scanner, recorded a conference call between Mr. Boehner, Mr. Gingrich and other House Republican leaders regarding strategy over the announcement of the committee's finding against Mr. Gingrich. The couple took the tape to Mr. McDermott, who was then serving on the same ethics committee that was judging Mr. Gingrich. Mr. McDermott passed it along to the Atlanta Journal-Constitution and New York Times, which put it on the front page. We don't fault the newspapers, which were only reporting news, but as someone responsible for upholding Congressional "ethics," Mr. McDermott was clearly operating in bad faith.

The case has been bouncing around the federal courts for years, including an appeal to the Supreme Court, which sent it back down the line. Judge Hogan will decide next month whether Mr. Boehner will be awarded punitive damages and legal costs.

Whatever the penalty, the judgment is clear: "The Court finds because Defendant McDermott participated in an illegal transaction when he accepted the tape . . . he is without First Amendment protection." If nothing else, at least Mr. McDermott can no longer tarnish the Constitution by invoking it to disguise his political rabbit punches.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Florida; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: baghdadjim; boehner; cellphone; dirtytricks; ethics; gingrich; lawsuit; mcdermott; mrgingrich; ruling; wiretap

1 posted on 08/23/2004 5:41:51 AM PDT by OESY
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To: OESY; Libertina

Somehow the name of McDermott and the word "ethics" just don't belong in the same sentence. The man is debased.


2 posted on 08/23/2004 5:44:18 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: OESY

Great! Does that mean Gingrich is House Speaker again?


3 posted on 08/23/2004 6:08:37 AM PDT by VisualizeSmallerGovernment (Question Liberal Authority)
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To: VisualizeSmallerGovernment
I'm still wondering why the couple that illegally recorded the call never served time.

A Republican official in Virginia lost his job, and his law license was suspended, and he is still facing legal jeopardy for the same kind of thing, and a Democrat gave him the sign-on info for the conference call.

4 posted on 08/23/2004 6:43:44 AM PDT by Montfort
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To: OESY

McDermott would represent Seattle in Congress while imprisoned. They would love having him as a "political prisoner."


5 posted on 08/23/2004 7:11:56 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Truth : Liberal as Kryptonite : Superman)
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To: OESY

remember when Bonior and Mc dermott claimed to be Nam Vets..neither were in Nam!!
http://www.newsmax.com/showinsidecover.shtml?a=2002/10/4/151547


6 posted on 08/23/2004 7:50:37 AM PDT by Coroner
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To: anniegetyourgun; OESY
"The Court finds because Defendant McDermott participated in an illegal transaction when he accepted the tape . . . he is without First Amendment protection." If nothing else, at least Mr. McDermott can no longer tarnish the Constitution by invoking it to disguise his political rabbit punches.

At first I thought the judge had said the second sentence as well ;)

7 posted on 08/23/2004 7:56:59 AM PDT by Libertina (The Democrat Party: Ah the freedom to lie, fund 527s, and ban books with media approval.)
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To: Coroner

I'm getting a "Reprint Information" page with that URL... got another one?


8 posted on 08/23/2004 8:01:34 AM PDT by 7.62 x 51mm (• Veni • Vidi • Vino • Visa • "I came, I saw, I drank wine, I shopped")
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To: anniegetyourgun
Somehow the name of McDermott and the word "ethics" just don't belong in the same sentence.

Unless "convicted" and "prision term" are also in the same sentence.

9 posted on 08/23/2004 8:15:35 AM PDT by savedbygrace
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To: VisualizeSmallerGovernment
Great! Does that mean Gingrich is House Speaker again?

Of course not. The bottom line is McDermott got away with it. Newt is gone. McDermott is still in office. There will be none of the manufactured outrage you would see in the press if a conservative pulled similar shennanigans. I'm sure unions and liberal 527's will kickback the money he needs to pay the fine.

Some "victory."

10 posted on 08/23/2004 8:22:58 AM PDT by Libertarian444
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To: CyberCowboy777

ping


11 posted on 08/23/2004 9:49:10 AM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP (Make all taxes truly voluntary)
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12 posted on 08/23/2004 10:51:59 AM PDT by CyberCowboy777 (Veritas vos liberabit)
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To: OESY
Three things have absolutely NO ethics.

!. A one-eyed cat in a seafood store.
2. A man with an erection.
3. Jim McDermott.

13 posted on 08/23/2004 11:10:27 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Democrat - It's in the dictionary - It's between "delusional" and "dimwit.")
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To: OESY

Was this in the TV news over the weekend? I was camping. Saw a mention in the politics page of the seattle slimes. They say judge hogan had previously thrown out the case but it was brought back on appeal & the couple who recorded Newt each got $500 fines. I really don't expect to see much on this around here.


14 posted on 08/23/2004 12:06:08 PM PDT by 4woodenboats (John & John attys @ law are crying for 1st amendment censurship!! Support swiftvets.com)
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To: CyberCowboy777

Thanks for the ping!


15 posted on 08/23/2004 12:07:01 PM PDT by 4woodenboats (John & John attys @ law are crying for 1st amendment censurship!! Support swiftvets.com)
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To: OESY
McDermott...isn't he the one who stars in "Farenheit 911"?

Why, I believe he is.

16 posted on 08/23/2004 12:18:58 PM PDT by what's up
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To: 7.62 x 51mm

"I'm getting a "Reprint Information" page with that URL... got another one?"

This WSJ page is in the subscriber's area, so if you're a WSJ online subscriber you can go to this link:

http://online.wsj.com/article/0,,SB109321420181197949,00.html?mod=opinion%5Fmain%5Freview%5Fand%5Foutlooks

Or, you can go to the WSJ homepage, www.wsj.com and click on the link on the left for "Opinion Main" from which you should see a page with this article's title.

This article also appears on page A12 of the WSJ print edition.

Not to worry, however, as there's nothing additional to see by going to the source other than a line drawing of Baghdad Jim which makes him look FAR more pleasant and easygoing than he is in reality.


17 posted on 08/23/2004 2:42:52 PM PDT by Stoat
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To: OESY; All

Not being someone steeped in the language of law, I am wondering if this ruling has the added bonus of adding the title of "Convicted Felon" to Baghdad Jim's moniker?

If so, pundits could delight in writing about him thusly:

"Convicted felon and U.S. Congressman Jim McDermott today introduced his thirtieth resolution calling for the immediate arrest, internment and summary execution of all persons who are ideologically to the right of Karl Marx. His resolution was met with a standing ovation from the Congressional Democrats, and Party leaders in Seattle issued a press release announcing plans for a ticker-tape parade for him through downtown Seattle, which is expected to draw hundreds of thousands of ardent supporters from the local area"


18 posted on 08/23/2004 2:54:39 PM PDT by Stoat
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To: OESY

What ethics?


19 posted on 08/23/2004 2:55:07 PM PDT by SandyInSeattle (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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To: Montfort
I'm still wondering why the couple that illegally recorded the call never served time.

As I recall they took a plea bargain.

20 posted on 08/23/2004 4:54:32 PM PDT by sionnsar (Iran Azadi ||| Resource for Traditional Anglicans: trad-anglican.faithweb.com)
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To: Stoat
Not being someone steeped in the language of law, I am wondering if this ruling has the added bonus of adding the title of "Convicted Felon" to Baghdad Jim's moniker?

Sorry, no. This was a civil suit, not a criminal one.

21 posted on 08/23/2004 4:56:31 PM PDT by sionnsar (Iran Azadi ||| Resource for Traditional Anglicans: trad-anglican.faithweb.com)
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To: sionnsar

Thanks very much for your clarification.

It was a nice thought while it lasted. :-)


22 posted on 08/23/2004 6:42:14 PM PDT by Stoat
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To: OESY

Ethics and Baghdad Jim = Oxymoron with emphasis on moron and jimbo.


23 posted on 08/23/2004 8:12:22 PM PDT by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: Libertarian444

Agreed. Most criminals continue until incarceration...because they can.


24 posted on 08/23/2004 8:18:01 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: 7.62 x 51mm

It used to be there


25 posted on 08/24/2004 6:57:33 AM PDT by Coroner
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To: sionnsar

That would mean that the couple at least has a criminal record. That is a relief. I supposed they had gotten off scot free.


26 posted on 08/25/2004 10:26:08 AM PDT by Montfort
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