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1 posted on 08/24/2004 11:44:35 AM PDT by Thrusher
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He apparently has a book out. I didn't catch the title though.


2 posted on 08/24/2004 11:46:45 AM PDT by No_Outcome_But_Victory (Reagan preferred to shoot the bear... the verdict of history will be simple: nice aim.)
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Search for his books on Amazon... this guy is top-notch... and the Liberals dismiss him just because he is Jewish. :)


3 posted on 08/24/2004 11:46:59 AM PDT by oolatec
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He has a new book but I've always found him to be credible.

As well, he is not the only one saying that WMD were moved into Iraq. Some high level captures have said the same thing. Colin Powell showed the UN satellite photos before the war of convoys leaving Iraq for Syria...speculation at that time was the trucks carried the WMD.


4 posted on 08/24/2004 11:48:14 AM PDT by Peach (The Clinton's pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Thrusher

Did Rush go on vacation to Scotland or is Roger Hedgecock subbing?


5 posted on 08/24/2004 11:49:33 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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The information that he was putting forth has been simmering for quite some time now from a number of sources. It will be interesting to hear what Duelfler (sp?) will have to say in the upcoming report.


6 posted on 08/24/2004 11:50:36 AM PDT by pieces of time
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In his previous works he was making the case for Al Queda and Iraq working together BEFORE 9/11. Read "The High Cost of Peace" to find a damming inditment of the Clinton Middle East "Peace" process. He also wrote the definitive Bin Laden biography (again before 9/11). He is a foremost expert and a must read for background.


9 posted on 08/24/2004 11:52:04 AM PDT by Dr Snide (vis pacem, para bellum - Prepare for war if you want peace)
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His book on Bin Laden, writen pre-9-11, is also top-notch.

Bin Laden: The Man Who Declared War on America
"Fascinating account. I strongly recommend it." — Jeane J. Kirkpatrick

14 posted on 08/24/2004 11:56:23 AM PDT by Snake65 (Osama Bin Decomposing)
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Yes, it was pretty much everything we know about the transfer of WMD out of Iraq to Syria and then some.

It was very compelling information and I hope he gets some interviews with the MSM soon.

15 posted on 08/24/2004 11:58:59 AM PDT by Cold Heat (http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/staticpages/index.php?page=20040531140357545)
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To: Thrusher; All
Here's an email exchange I had in early July with Greg Copley, President of the Internation Association for Strategic Studies, for which Bodansky is Research Director:

Yossef Bodansky is considered one of the foremost experts on Middle East terrorism in the world. He's been head of a Congressional policy office on terrorism, consults with a number of intelligence think tank organizations, and has written numerous books. He wrote what is considered to be the definitive biography on Osama bin Laden in 1999, and predicted therein what we are now seeing in regard to international terrorism.

Bodansky's books are filled with information you'll never read in the mainstream media; the information tend to give his books a spy-thriller flavor. There is, however, one problem with his books: he never footnotes or references anything he asserts.

In reviews on Amazon.com regarding his book on the Iraq war, there are a couple of lengthy discussions of the book by a Greg Copley. It turns out that Mr. Copley is President of the International Strategic Studies Assoc., and a friend of Bodansky's. I emailed Mr. Copley last week, simply asking him about Bodansky's irritating habit of not citing his sources. Below is my email, and the response I received today:

Mr. Copley,

I noted the battle of reviews on Amazon.com pertaining to Yossef Bodansky's latest book, The Secret History of the Iraq War. I didn't consider it so much a battle of reviews, as it was your effort to describe the information in the book, and another "reviewer's" effort to snipe at both you and the book. I should let you know that based upon your comments on Amazon.com, I purchased a copy of Mr. Bodansky's book this afternoon.

I read Mr. Bodansky's previous book, The High Cost of Peace, which was quite an eye-opener. It was an eye-opener both in terms of revealing the strategic coordination between Saddam, Iran, and Syria up to and after the 1991 Gulf War, and also an eye-opener in the fact that this strategic partnership has never (to my knowledge) been discussed or reported in the mainstream news media (an eye-opener, but not a surprising one).

I do have two questions about Mr. Bodansky's books which I hope you have time to quickly comment on:

1) Why do Mr. Bodansky's books not contain footnotes for the information contained in them? His information is startling, but as one Amazon reviewer of The High Cost of Peace commented, without footnotes, his book reads as a fascinating, but unverifiable, story -- almost like a Clancyesque thriller. In a world where most people are willing to bury their heads in the sand and deny the truth, blockbuster books like Mr. Bodansky's don't pack the power they should, because of the lack of verifiable sources.

2) With information about the connection between Saddam and al-Qaeda, and about Saddam's WMD program trickling-out, why do you think the Bush Administration hasn't made a high-profile disclosure of what they know about both topics? From information I've read, which is readily available over the Internet, I'm convinced of Saddam's connection with international terrorist groups, and I'm also convinced he was heavily engaged in WMD development (or, as David Kay reported last year, Saddam at least had the infrastructure, the technical and scientific expertise, the growth media and precursor chemicals, and the will, to produce WMDs). So, why hasn't the Administration made a strong and sustained disclosure about what is known about both, but rather has allowed its opponents to continue to hammer away at the "lack" of evidence?

Many thanks to your attention to my email. And thanks again for the "tip" on Mr. Bodansky's latest effort.

GREG A****

And here's Mr. Copley's response:

Dear Greg:

Well, thanks for your detailed message which awaited my return from London last night. Sorry, because of that trip, I did not respond earlier.

Seffy Bodansky's latest book does, at least, contain a section on sources and methods, in which he attempts to explain his lack of footnoting. I have also taken this up with him, because, as other reviewers have commented, the lack of footnotes implies, or suggests, a lack of confirmable evidence.

What we have seen in both his latest books, but particularly the Iraq book, is a greater reference in the text itself to sources where they have been in print, or based on personal discussions. That, at least, was a step toward addressing the criticism. However, much of what Bodansky provides is based on direct, first-hand interviews with people within either intelligence communities or within Islamist movements. Clearly, the first task is to protect those sources.

I have, where I have had questions or doubts about some of his material, gone into lengthy and often heated discussions, but have invariably been able to be reassured as to the sources (which, by virtue of the fact that we have worked together for some 20 years and the fact that we share the same security concerns). He has often privately disclosed the details of the sourcing to me, and I have been able to verify or understand the material origins.

Significantly, however, it is the passage of time which best verifies Bodansky's material. His 1999 book, Bin Laden, the Man Who Declared War on America, was absolutely verified by subsequent events. His earlier (1994-5) books on terrorism in the US brought out in detail the plans to use hijacked airliners to attack the World Trade Center and other targets. And so on.

Finally, Seffy has no agenda other than to get out the story. Certainly money is not a motivator, and he has no private life worth talking of, apart from having his dog drag him away from his computer and books when he is (rarely) at home from one of his trips to interesting places. It is because he literally is what he says that a lot of Islamists and Arab leaders talk to him privately. They believe that at least he understands them.

On the WMD, we worked over the past decade on tracking the inflow of ballistic missile research and chemical, bio and nuclear weapons research moved into Libya, along with some 20,000 Iraqi scientists, engineers and workers. There were also Egyptians involved. We went further in this than Seffy did, largely because it seemed, I suppose, periperhal to the publishers who wanted to focus on Iraq per se. So, too, did the Administration; Rice and Powell wanted no focus whatsoever outside the borders of Iraq. This was, in fact, naive in that Saddam knew that the UN "search warrant" was for Iraq itself; as a result, he moved, as he had done in the past, his sensitive materiel to Syria, Sudan and Libya. The big Libya move of stuff and people was in the 1996-98 timeframe. Qadhafi's admission of "Libya's WMD programs" deliberately did not acknowledge the Iraq link, because of Qadhafi's fear of a US assault.

Anyway, suffice it to say that I am satisfied with Seffy's excellent and professional commitment to verifying his material. I know that he has every item of data logged, with its reference sources available, even though most of these cannot be divulged publicly for fear of burning those sources. And the consequences for his sources would, in most instances, be death. We have, in our operations, lost some sources in the past, and don't want any repeats of that.

All the best and, again, many thanks for your note.

Sincerely,

Greg. [Copley]


18 posted on 08/24/2004 12:15:04 PM PDT by My2Cents (http://www.conservativesforbush.com)
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To: Thrusher
Steven F. Hayes of the Weekly Standard also has a book-- not as thorough or wide-ranging, but more readable--called The Connection which details al-Q and Iraqi (especially IIS) contacts prior to 9/11. The connection is indisputable.

One of the reasons, IMHO, that the Bushies have failed to articulate this connection is that whenever they do, CYA analysts leak stories that there was no connection, the intelligence is bogus, etc, etc. For example: Czech intelligence reported that Atta met with IIS in Prague. The Czechs have never doubted that this meeting took place, and have never retracted the story. Yet, every time the thing pops up, out comes some anonymous source at CYA who says, "Czech intelligence has said this never happened." In response to the most recent leak/lie, the Czech President himself said, "they keep saying we've repudiated this meeting. It isn't true. We believe it happened."

There is a war going on between Bush and the State Department/CYA. Unfortunately, this is one war Bush is either not willing to fight, or not aware that he's fighting. It's time to dismantle the CYA once and for all, and turn foreign intelligence back over to the military. Military people have a culture, tradition, and genuine understanding of why they must be subordinate to a civilian authority in a free country. The CYA doesn't understand that they're supposed to answer to the Commander-in-Chief.

Finally, people keep focusing on connections between al-Q and Iraq, as if bin Laden is the only enemy we have. Bush stated the dimensions of this fight: it is a war against terrorism with global reach, and countries which harbor those kinds of terrorists are our ENEMIES. Iraq not only sponsored bin Laden, but many other terrorist organizations as well. But most importantly, the Iraqi Intelligence Service was a terrorist organization in its own right. Its global reach was undoubted. It had already planned and promised (and may have executed) terror strikes against the United States. So, there is no need to connect Saddam to al-Q. He had his own personal terrorist organization already.

22 posted on 08/24/2004 12:37:47 PM PDT by FredZarguna
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I have the interview on audiotape.


24 posted on 08/24/2004 12:51:33 PM PDT by Matchett-PI (All DemocRATS are either religious relativists, libertines or anarchists.)
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Bodansky is an interesting guy. can't comment on his prediction success rate, but he talks about alot of stuff that the MSM does not. both he and Loftus appear on Batchelor's WABC radio show.


26 posted on 08/24/2004 12:54:26 PM PDT by oceanview
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yes... it was the best stratigic explanation i've ever heard that ties as many threads together it he did
34 posted on 08/24/2004 1:35:12 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist )
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