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Undereducated voters are democrat!
The daily iowan ^ | 8/23/04 | Anthony Harris

Posted on 08/24/2004 2:38:10 PM PDT by Afghan Whig

Dumbing down the liberal way By Anthony Harris

During the Democratic National Convention, C-SPAN covered "Grass-roots Campaign Training for Young Democrats," a seminar in which Democrat strategist Teresa Vilmain asked activists in training for examples of the Democratic Party's base communities (i.e., constituencies). One Dem smugly chimed "educated people," earning a cheap pop from the group.

On another front: According to the Students for Academic Freedom complaint lodger, one professor at Normandale Community College in Bloomington, Minn., told his class that "teachers are more educated, and that's why they have liberal views."

I've spent four semesters in a community college and have served more than two years at the UI; a professor this arrogant would fit in much better at a four-year institution. Thanks to academic elitism, those who don't support abortion and high taxes have been collectively branded "misinformed." If the label is accurate at all, then it logically follows that the lower someone's level of education is, the more conservative she or he is.

For the thousandth time, the facts contradict liberal prejudice. According to statistics compiled from the Gallup Report and the New York Times, the less education one has, the more likely she or he is to vote Democrat (assuming that the person can figure out the ballots in Florida).

In the 1968 presidential election, 43 percent of voters chose Democratic candidate Hubert Humphrey, while 43.4 percent voted for Republican candidate Richard Nixon. In an election almost as close as that of 2000, 52 percent of voters with only a grade-school education voted for Humphrey, and 33 percent of the same group voted for Nixon.

In 1976, Jimmy Carter won 50 percent of the popular vote over Gerald Ford's 48 percent. Carter won the grade-school vote, 58 to 41 percent. When Bill Clinton thumped Bob Dole in 1996, 49 to 41 percent, he dominated the undereducated vote, 59 to 28 percent. When Clinton won his first presidency in 1992, he beat George H.W. Bush, 43 to 38 percent. Undereducated voters that year supported Clinton over Bush by a 2-1 margin, 56 to 28 percent.

Wait, there's more!

In 1980, Ronald Reagan won the popular vote 51 to 41 percent over Jimmy Carter, but the undereducated vote swung Democrat, 54 to 42 percent. In 1984, when Reagan outclassed the Mondale/Ferraro ticket by a 59 to 41 percent margin, 51 percent of undereducated voters chose Mondale. George H.W. Bush beat Michael Dukakis by 8 percentage points in 1988 but lost the undereducated vote to Mister Roger's double by 13 points. Most recently, Al Gore won the undereducated vote by 20 points, 59 to 39 percent.

In fact, in every presidential election since 1972, Democrats have been supported by a majority of people who have been neglected by American schools. No wonder liberals don't like No Child Left Behind - they're losing converts.

This has to frustrate the left, which scored one of its biggest long-term victories in the 1960s in education. Allowing professors to shed integrity in the face of conservatism for decades, all activist educators have to show for their efforts are the soft sciences and the arts. According to the Students for Academic Freedom complaint lodger, in a women's studies class at the University of Calfornia-Santa Barbara, a professor graded a student down for holding conservative views. This isn't particularly shocking, and neither is the department head's alleged response to the situation, as she explained that completely objective teachers do not exist. The lesson: Nothing can deflect responsibility like philosophical trivia.

To be fair, liberals aren't the only dogmatists in academia. One Colorado State University teaching assistant complained that disagreeing with a program director's Christian viewpoint resulted in no classes being available to teach. The difference in this circumstance is that the administration at Colorado State apparently took action, as the director and several born-again faculty members are now gone.

On the right and the left, professors are attempting indoctrination in an illogical environment, one that (ideally) stresses critical thinking skills. Without these skills, one is more likely to defer to popular political clichés. A good education is important, because in an age where Michael Moore has more influence than Robert Bork, critical thinking keeps conservatism alive.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: anthonyharris; dems; duh; undereducated; voting; votingpatterns
ha ha ha ha ha!
1 posted on 08/24/2004 2:38:10 PM PDT by Afghan Whig
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To: Afghan Whig

I have long said that Democrats WANT to keep the schools a mess - it gets them votes in the long run.

And this bears repeating:

For the thousandth time, the facts contradict liberal prejudice. According to statistics compiled from the Gallup Report and the New York Times, the less education one has, the more likely she or he is to vote Democrat (assuming that the person can figure out the ballots in Florida).


2 posted on 08/24/2004 2:40:49 PM PDT by Peach (The Clinton's pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Afghan Whig
According to statistics compiled from the Gallup Report and the New York Times, the less education one has, the more likely she or he is to vote Democrat

I've been a Republican for many years and this is common knowledge.

3 posted on 08/24/2004 2:41:37 PM PDT by stanz (Those who don't believe in evolution should go jump off the flat edge of the Earth.)
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To: Afghan Whig

My opinion as to why this is true is that the uneducated respond better to the promise of "40 acres and a mule" that the Dems offer to the poor and uneducated. These people are less likely to offer the question as to why this offer has been out there for 60 years and no mule has ever showed up.


4 posted on 08/24/2004 2:41:47 PM PDT by lnbchip
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To: Afghan Whig

And people who cannot read, vote in Florida.


5 posted on 08/24/2004 2:42:00 PM PDT by My2Cents (http://www.conservativesforbush.com)
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To: Afghan Whig
On another front: According to the Students for Academic Freedom complaint lodger, one professor at Normandale Community College in Bloomington, Minn., told his class that "teachers are more educated, and that's why they have liberal views."

Education majors was by far the easiest degree to get when I was in school. There was very little work to do and it was generally simple.

6 posted on 08/24/2004 2:42:04 PM PDT by Always Right
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To: Peach

They overwhelmingly vote Democrat, but they can't give you a reason why.


7 posted on 08/24/2004 2:43:18 PM PDT by My2Cents (http://www.conservativesforbush.com)
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To: Afghan Whig

You Don't Say!


8 posted on 08/24/2004 2:43:26 PM PDT by Mich0127 (A village in Massachusetts is missing their drunk...contact the Kennedys with any info immediately!)
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To: My2Cents

My husband got into a political debate in the pro shop today. The Rat couldn't state ONE single thing to back up his contentions and after he left, all the golfers slapped Mr. Peach on the back and said he really outted the ignorance of the Democrat. Hah!


9 posted on 08/24/2004 2:45:44 PM PDT by Peach (The Clinton's pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Afghan Whig

Uhhhhhuhhhhhhhhhh. Do ya think, Beavis?


10 posted on 08/24/2004 2:45:59 PM PDT by brewcrew
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To: Afghan Whig

I once heard something along thses lines by someone famous:

"You have to be pretty smart to believe really dumb things."

Bout sums it up for most Dems.


11 posted on 08/24/2004 2:47:11 PM PDT by kimoajax
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To: Peach

Bad place for a Democrat to "out" himself...in a golf pro shop. LOL


12 posted on 08/24/2004 2:47:30 PM PDT by My2Cents (http://www.conservativesforbush.com)
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To: Afghan Whig

Lots of stats to back up what we (Conservatives) knew from the get-go.


13 posted on 08/24/2004 2:47:31 PM PDT by theDentist ("John Kerry changes positions more often than a Nevada prostitute.")
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To: Afghan Whig

Well, DUH!


14 posted on 08/24/2004 2:48:33 PM PDT by big'ol_freeper ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought."-Pope JPII)
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To: Afghan Whig
one professor at Normandale Community College in Bloomington, Minn., told his class that "teachers are more educated, and that's why they have liberal views."

Professors have never done anything productive in their lives, and that's why they're Democrats.

15 posted on 08/24/2004 2:48:41 PM PDT by My2Cents (http://www.conservativesforbush.com)
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To: Afghan Whig

I'm taking a class in macro economics at a local community college.

The first day was yesterday. I corrected the professor three times in the first 30 minutes.

He was trying to indoctrinate the class in socialist economics and his examples were geared for proving his points. I pointed out how each of his points were gross exaggerations, and how prominent economists disagreed with him.

He had to admit that economics is not an exactly science and that there is a lot of debate and disagreement. But he kept his eye on me the remaining 45 minutes, and toned down his rhetoric.

Eheh, he deserved it. A survey of the class showed that other than myself and two other people, everyone else had had no classes in economics prior.


16 posted on 08/24/2004 2:49:13 PM PDT by coconutt2000
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To: Afghan Whig

I can vouch for this. I've been having discussions for days with the liberals around here about 527s. None of them know who George Soros is.

2 in 3, and maybe more, republicans know.


17 posted on 08/24/2004 2:49:30 PM PDT by mrbillxx (Conservatives Think. Liberals Feel.)
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To: Afghan Whig

This begs the question, what came first, the chicken or the egg??


18 posted on 08/24/2004 2:49:54 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: Afghan Whig
"Undereducated voters are democrat!"

Vietnam Vet voters are Pi$$ed.

19 posted on 08/24/2004 2:50:33 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: Always Right
"Education major was by far the easiest degree to get when I was in school. There was very little work to do and it was generally simple."

Yes, in those days there were no blonde jokes. They were "education major" jokes.

Things haven't changed.

20 posted on 08/24/2004 2:52:28 PM PDT by Liberty Wins (Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of all who threaten it.)
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To: Afghan Whig

The title says it all


21 posted on 08/24/2004 2:53:43 PM PDT by The Raven (The most terrifying words in the English language are: 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help)
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To: Afghan Whig
Didn't read the story but the headline is true! Every other lib I know is a short buser. The other half are overeducated and cannot assemble a simple thought.

Very few libs in the nonunion blue collar or white collar middle class. I know 5 millionaires all conservative because they didn't inherit it they made it. They will not pass much of it to their heirs because old money creates stupid.
22 posted on 08/24/2004 2:54:07 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (I'm Conspiracy Guy and I approve this message. "John Kerry is a liar!")
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To: Afghan Whig

Equally good is

Demcrats are Undereducated Voters


23 posted on 08/24/2004 2:54:34 PM PDT by The Raven (The most terrifying words in the English language are: 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help)
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To: My2Cents
And people who cannot read, vote in Florida.

Yes, but my eyes have opened to the theory about snowbirds voting twice in 2000. I think we are talking about many thousands opposed to a few thousand. I hope that is investigated.
24 posted on 08/24/2004 2:58:17 PM PDT by cmsgop ( Bong Hits, Fraggle Rock Reruns and DU is no way to go through Life..........)
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To: Always Right

When I was in college, we used to say the first semester of 'Physics for Education Majors' involved:
1) Learning how to insert a plug in a socket
2) Learning how to turn a switch to 'on'
3) Learning you can't push with a rope


25 posted on 08/24/2004 3:08:38 PM PDT by NHResident
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To: T. Jefferson

Republicans have much higher IQ's than democrats, as proven simply by voter demographics.


26 posted on 08/24/2004 3:19:04 PM PDT by T. Jefferson
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To: Always Right
Some Education Degrees are easy to get, but it depends on your emphasis, or minor.

I have a degree in Secondary Education, minor in Biology and graduate work in Micro Biology and know a lot of very smart people with Education Degrees, but they tend to be in the 'hard sciences'

27 posted on 08/24/2004 3:26:55 PM PDT by SCALEMAN
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To: Afghan Whig
Actually this is wrong, because those with postgraduate education are more likely to vote Democratic.

http://usconservatives.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2000/epolls/US/P000.html

I suppose you could say that those who are "overeducated" also vote Democratic. There is a sex difference too. College educated women are overwhelmingly Democrat, non college men are overwhelmingly Republican. More:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A56905-2001Mar25?language=printer

The changes have not produced a full-scale reversal of the two parties' traditional constituencies. In the bottom half of the income levels, the Democratic Party remains strong among African Americans, Hispanics and white union members, while GOP support has swelled among nonunion whites. In the top half, there has been a realignment of white, well-educated professionals (lawyers, doctors, scientists, academics), now one of the most reliably Democratic constituencies. But Republican loyalties have strengthened among small-business men, managers and corporate executives.

These changes pose challenges as Republicans and Democrats prepare for the 2002 and 2004 elections.

For advocates of a revived populism in the Democratic Party, the steady erosion of support among lower-income whites is a growing threat. A poll by Democrat Stanley Greenberg for the Institute for America's Future showed that whites without college degrees had significantly more positive feelings toward the Republican Party than toward the Democratic Party.

Asked whether their views were "warm" or "cool" toward the two parties, white women without college degrees were decisively favorable to the GOP, 49 percent "warm" and 27 percent "cool," while their assessment of the Democratic Party was less positive, 46 percent warm to 34 percent cool. For non-college white men, the differences were more dramatic: Their positive view of the Republican Party was 54 percent to 27 percent, and their assessment of the Democratic Party was negative: 38 percent to 41 percent.

28 posted on 08/24/2004 3:34:22 PM PDT by Soundman4x4
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To: Afghan Whig
Undereducated voters are democrat!

D'OH!

Ya think?

Just lsiten to Bevis and Butthead Radio for a couple of days.

29 posted on 08/24/2004 3:42:36 PM PDT by Publius6961 (I don't do diplomacy either.)
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To: SCALEMAN
I have a degree in Secondary Education, minor in Biology and graduate work in Micro Biology and know a lot of very smart people with Education Degrees, but they tend to be in the 'hard sciences'

But is the education degree really useful for being able to teach? Would the time spent getting the education degree be better spent taking courses in the academic subject that will be taught?

30 posted on 08/24/2004 3:53:29 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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To: Afghan Whig

And now you know why the NEA and DNC are so tight with each other. The uneducated masses are easy to control.....

You owe it to yourselves to get children out of public school...


31 posted on 08/24/2004 3:55:33 PM PDT by duckbutt ( Warning: Dates in calendar are closer than they appear)
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To: Soundman4x4; Afghan Whig
Actually this is wrong, because those with postgraduate education are more likely to vote Democratic.

Does anyone have a breakdown of politcal affiliation of people with graduate degrees by academic discipline and the kind of job that one holds? I have met a number of economics professor who are fairly conservative or libertarian. I bet if you look closer, a lot of those with graduate degrees who are affiliated with the DemocRATS are lawyers, or teachers, or college professors.

32 posted on 08/24/2004 3:58:24 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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To: Soundman4x4
"Actually this is wrong, because those with postgraduate education are more likely to vote Democratic. "

When I was just a tad Frosh or Soph in H.S. I asked my parents how some very educated teachers etc could not logically assemble three known facts and come to an intelligent conclusion. Their non-college educated reason? ...

"Son, many people are educated far beyond their native intelligence."

Nam Vet

33 posted on 08/24/2004 4:13:25 PM PDT by Nam Vet (Arab nutball bumper sticker ..... "My other wife is a goat")
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