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Food Police: Milk Is Unhealthy for Kids
Consumer Freedom.com ^ | August 23, 2004 | Unattributed

Posted on 08/24/2004 3:48:46 PM PDT by Still Thinking

Washington, DC -- Attention parents and teachers! The food police have added whole and two-percent milk to the list of "poor nutritional quality" beverages in their crosshairs, recommending that they be removed from American's schools. This and other ridiculous assertions are contained in a report being circulated by the self-described "food police" at the Center for Science in the Public Interest (CSPI). The draft report, rumored to be released this month, bears the name of CSPI's activist coalition, the National Alliance for Nutrition and Activity (NANA). NANA is part of an anti-soda crusade which advocates taxing sodas and restricting their availability in order to eliminate fizzy drinks from the diets of both children and adults.

"Anyone who would suggest that milk is unhealthy for kids is out to lunch," said Richard Berman, executive director of the Center for Consumer Freedom. "CSPI once boasted that it was 'proud about finding something wrong with practically everything.' Now it's proven it."

The report concludes that school districts and local, state and federal governments should banish beverages and snacks that CSPI claims are contributing to the nation's obesity. But evidence linking childhood obesity to sodas and snacks is utterly lacking.

Suggesting a causal link between soda consumption and childhood obesity, the CSPI/NANA report relies solely on a flawed study by Harvard University researcher and "fat tax" advocate David Ludwig. Ludwig admitted in his own conclusion that, "there is no clear evidence that consumption of sugar per se ... causes obesity." The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention echoed Ludwig's conclusion: "There are no data from the Harvard study that allow us to make an estimate of what proportion of obesity might be accounted for by changes in soft drink consumption."

This is not the first time the anti-soda movement has relied on faulty science to make their case. In 1998 CSPI issued a report titled "Liquid Candy," which claimed that some teenagers get up to 25 percent of their calories from soda. Just one week later, following massive media attention, CSPI admitted that it had overstated this figure by a whopping 100 percent. In fact, American boys drink less than half the amount of soft drinks initially claimed by CSPI. While CSPI quietly made a correction (after the media fracas died down), it still heavily promotes its "Liquid Candy" report.

"NANA should rename itself NANNY," added Mr. Berman. "Nagging Americans with a finger-wagging 'no no' won't shrink anyone's waistline. This is just another attempt by CSPI's Puritans to restrict foods they don't like. And as usual, there's no science in the public interest to back them up."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: ccf; cspi; diet; education; food; foodpolice; health; milk; nannystate; school; soda
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I am slightly sympathetic to districts having the authority to decide what they will sell, but when I hear the word "banish" I start to get concerned. If they mean that literally, that they have the right to regulate what kids bring in from outside, they are way off the reservation. Don't laugh, that's exactly what's happening at a school in Kalifornia where my wife's cousin's kids go.
1 posted on 08/24/2004 3:48:47 PM PDT by Still Thinking
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2 posted on 08/24/2004 3:55:01 PM PDT by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: billorites

Got milk?


3 posted on 08/24/2004 3:56:20 PM PDT by Still Thinking
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To: Still Thinking

Soda's are very acidic, whould you drink battery acid. Milk coats the intestinal walls with a thick gooo. Both are not good for you.

Milk also is loaded with are sorts of drugs and hormones, not good.


4 posted on 08/24/2004 4:02:14 PM PDT by stockpirate (Real issue is Kerry attended meeting where VVAW discussed killing 7 US Senators! 11/71)
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To: stockpirate

So?


5 posted on 08/24/2004 4:02:59 PM PDT by Belisaurius ("Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, Ted" - Joseph Kennedy 1958)
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To: Still Thinking

www.notmilk.com !!!!


6 posted on 08/24/2004 4:09:48 PM PDT by winker
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To: Belisaurius

The coating reduces the bodies ability to absord nutrients


7 posted on 08/24/2004 4:11:36 PM PDT by stockpirate (Real issue is Kerry attended meeting where VVAW discussed killing 7 US Senators! 11/71)
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To: stockpirate

Casein is the culprit read Flo Jo's autopsy on www.notmilk.com


8 posted on 08/24/2004 4:11:48 PM PDT by winker
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To: Still Thinking

Milk has quite a bit of sugar in it.

IMO, there is ample evidence linking sugar and obeseity.


9 posted on 08/24/2004 4:12:07 PM PDT by 1stFreedom
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To: winker

Hmmm - never saw that site before. My son is allergic to cow's milk, not lactose-intollerant, there's a difference. There's a strong link between cow's milk and eczema, from what I hear.


10 posted on 08/24/2004 4:14:03 PM PDT by momfirst
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To: stockpirate

Oh please. I am a 64 year old woman & life time milk drinker. I have bones like the doctors can't believe.


11 posted on 08/24/2004 4:15:54 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: All
I'm not necessarily taking a position on the debate itself, just on the audacity of people who have their definition of the [people with productive jobs]-[government] relationship back asswards.

Did my mama teach me not to drink soda much, yes. Do I think the gubmint has the moral right to give that advice binding force, HELL NO!

12 posted on 08/24/2004 4:17:29 PM PDT by Still Thinking
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To: Still Thinking

I was raised on carrot juice and my kids will be raised on carrot juice.


13 posted on 08/24/2004 4:17:50 PM PDT by Kleon
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To: stockpirate

In the old days they let a cow or goat, have a calf and then humans partook of that milk. Plus the animal was allowed to graze. Now they confine the animal, and feed it very strange stuff, and as it gets diseased, they begin to pump it full of antibiotics. Then they figured out if you pump it full of hormones, it gives more milk. Now the animal is stressed and begins to manufacture white blood cells which is added to the volume of milk produced. So, better to let nature provide the milk.


14 posted on 08/24/2004 4:18:21 PM PDT by D Edmund Joaquin (and may your nose always smell of apples (Song of Solomon 7:8))
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To: Belisaurius

Babies need more fat than the rest of us and can process the saturated fat of breast ( and other ) milk . From age three one really should strictly limit the intake of milk and meat products in order to prevent artherosclerosis . Many boys in our society have significant coronary artherosclerosis by the time they reach late adolescence .


15 posted on 08/24/2004 4:19:17 PM PDT by sushiman
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To: Still Thinking

Oh, geeze. Not this crap again.


16 posted on 08/24/2004 4:19:47 PM PDT by .38sw
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To: 1stFreedom; All

So what is an/the alternative ... besides water?


17 posted on 08/24/2004 4:20:11 PM PDT by knarf (A place where anyone can learn anything ... especially that which promotes clear thinking.)
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To: Still Thinking

What I want to know is...Where do they get the orange cows...that they get the orange cheese from?


18 posted on 08/24/2004 4:21:02 PM PDT by Osage Orange ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good"- Hillary Clinton)
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To: Kleon

If you don't drink milk or milk products, what do you do? eat oyster shells?

After reading these posts, PETA has definitely succeeded in their mass propaganda - or there sure are a hell of a lot of DU'ers here (Highly likely!)


19 posted on 08/24/2004 4:21:41 PM PDT by steplock
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To: Still Thinking

Do they have a peanutbutter-free table in the cafeteria?


20 posted on 08/24/2004 4:22:43 PM PDT by chalkfarmer
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To: Still Thinking
Well, Margaret Thatcher warned against taking a position in the middle of the road, because you get hit from both sides, but nonetheless I'm a moderate here.

On one hand, NANA's position that milk is of "poor nutritional quality" is absurd on its face.

But on the other hand, milk is undeserving of its mystique as an absolutely essential substance kids must have every day (a quart, if you believe the dairy lobby).

Milk is a good food. But it's not the must-have that has been drilled into the heads of parents for decades.

21 posted on 08/24/2004 4:26:55 PM PDT by southernnorthcarolina (I used to be schizophrenic, but we're fine now.)
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To: steplock

As life-long nonmilk drinker, you can survive without dairy products.


22 posted on 08/24/2004 4:27:17 PM PDT by chalkfarmer
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To: Still Thinking

WARNING! EATING FOOD MAY BE HAZARDOUS TO YOUR HEALTH. Avoid consuming proteins, carbohydrates, fruits, vegetables, and water.


23 posted on 08/24/2004 4:32:52 PM PDT by TexasRepublic (Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition!)
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To: TexasRepublic

Thinking's corollary to Republic's law: "Excessive worrying about what causes cancer, causes cancer."


24 posted on 08/24/2004 4:35:28 PM PDT by Still Thinking
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To: knarf
So what is an/the alternative ... besides water?

Do you really want to know?

Calcium-enriched juices, tea and coffee, and soy milk.

25 posted on 08/24/2004 4:36:06 PM PDT by Kleon
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To: D Edmund Joaquin

People also forget that milk is NOT supposed to be white.


26 posted on 08/24/2004 4:39:38 PM PDT by Nataku X
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To: Nakatu X

Really? Because we had a jersey that we milked and it gave white milk, though I guess we wanted chocolate!


27 posted on 08/24/2004 4:43:38 PM PDT by D Edmund Joaquin (and may your nose always smell of apples (Song of Solomon 7:8))
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To: Ditter

Well, I'm not quite in your age bracket, but I've been drinking milk my whole life (guys in trucks used to deliver it to the house - those were the days). Mom started me out on skim until a cousin came to visit and she had bought, because he had requested, whole milk for him. I got a taste of that and haven't been back to watered down milk since. And my bones are doing quite well. Of course the milk we had back then didn't have all the growth hormones and other stuff milk has today.


28 posted on 08/24/2004 4:43:49 PM PDT by AFreeBird (your mileage may vary)
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To: Still Thinking
I must not be doing something right according to some of these districts:

My oldest son drinks milk and water. Sometimes a Capri sun drink every now and then.

Youngest son drinks orange juice, water, Capri sun drinks. (refuses milk)

I don't buy sodas to drink at home. While eating out the kids will drink milk or Sprite *points to above preferences*

Now go take a look at my profile page to see pics of my skinny kids *LOL*

29 posted on 08/24/2004 4:45:33 PM PDT by Severa (I can't take this stress anymore...quick, get me a marker to sniff....)
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To: stockpirate
I agree with you. Both soda and milk are no good (except breast milk for infants). I don't know what is so difficult to understand here. Of course, if people want to keep drinking that crap, all the power to them. It's still a free country.

I honestly believe that beer, cider and wine are better for kids then milk. I'm totally serious. Not jesting at all. In moderate amounts, of course.

30 posted on 08/24/2004 4:46:54 PM PDT by SamAdams76 (Junior Brown rocks the house...)
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To: D Edmund Joaquin

100% pure white?

I'm just saying this because "raw" milk has a yellowish tinge to it... not the snow/chalk white we see today... I guess your cow might've been a special breed...


31 posted on 08/24/2004 4:47:29 PM PDT by Nataku X
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To: Nakatu X

Yes, I think Jersey and Guernesys vary from the Holstein. Maybe it's a higher fat content or something, and undoubtedly is also affected by what they get to eat.


32 posted on 08/24/2004 4:49:41 PM PDT by D Edmund Joaquin (and may your nose always smell of apples (Song of Solomon 7:8))
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To: D Edmund Joaquin; stockpirate

Many stores sell organic milk, allegedly free of hormones and other additives,
that got rave reviews from some Freepers on past threads.
Oh, and it's all Bush's fault.


33 posted on 08/24/2004 4:49:54 PM PDT by babaloo999 (Liberals say they're "Progressive". So is cancer.)
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LOL. Yes, I try to buy that kind.


34 posted on 08/24/2004 4:51:21 PM PDT by D Edmund Joaquin (and may your nose always smell of apples (Song of Solomon 7:8))
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To: Still Thinking

Hell will freeze over before I drink that fat-free "milk." My kids won't touch it, either.

As for the schools deciding that they won't sell whole milk anymore...I suppose that is their decision, though unless there is refrigeration available to the kids, they won't even be able to bring it from home -- and I DO have a problem with that.

Regards,


35 posted on 08/24/2004 4:51:44 PM PDT by VermiciousKnid
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For dinner tomorrow night I am going to feed my children veal with a big glass of milk. Nothing like baby cow and milk. Hopefully, the poor baby cow was stuck in an industrial farm, in a small stall and unable to move its entire life. So Yummy, and at the same time if pisses off those eco-wacko, tree hugging, twig eating liberals.


36 posted on 08/24/2004 4:53:58 PM PDT by PattonReincarnated (Rebuild the Temple)
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To: Still Thinking
"which advocates taxing sodas and restricting their availability in order to eliminate fizzy drinks from the diets of both children and adults."

Social engineering using the tax code is un-American.

37 posted on 08/24/2004 4:54:44 PM PDT by kdot
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To: SamAdams76

You never see other species drinking milk after they have been weened.


38 posted on 08/24/2004 4:58:31 PM PDT by chalkfarmer
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To: chalkfarmer

Or driving cars, either.


39 posted on 08/24/2004 5:00:29 PM PDT by Still Thinking
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To: knarf
So what is an/the alternative ... besides water?

Beer.

Having said that, I drink whole milk only, pure butter (salted) and use bacon fat in a lot of my cooking, same as both of my granpas and my father, who all lived well into their late 80's, one GP until 96. That's long enough for me on this globe, for I know it is but a passing through on a journey to somewhere far better, and I'll enjoy my life here eating and drinking what pleases me.

These cradle to grave people can kiss my ass.

FMCDH(BITS)

40 posted on 08/24/2004 5:02:07 PM PDT by nothingnew (KERRY: "If at first you don't deceive, lie, lie again!")
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To: Still Thinking

Latest salvo in the age old war of farmers (read Archer Daniel Midland) against ranchers.....retaliation for the Atkins diet success!


41 posted on 08/24/2004 5:02:42 PM PDT by mo
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You never see other species drinking milk after they have been weened.

So what the hell are you gonna drink with a double fudge brownie or a big slice of Devil's Food Cake with mocha frosting...Chablis?

FMCDH(BITS)

42 posted on 08/24/2004 5:04:33 PM PDT by nothingnew (KERRY: "If at first you don't deceive, lie, lie again!")
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To: nothingnew

You'd think as paranoid as they are, they would be averse to doing so, but as long as one is a liberal, they don't seem to mind. Your food philosophy and heredity is similar to mine. Maybe we both just have good genes.


43 posted on 08/24/2004 5:04:54 PM PDT by Still Thinking
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To: chalkfarmer

You never see other species cooking their food either. Maybe we're just different.


44 posted on 08/24/2004 5:05:04 PM PDT by HungarianGypsy
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To: trussell
Ping to #40...you might enjoy this.

FMCDH(BITS)

45 posted on 08/24/2004 5:06:06 PM PDT by nothingnew (KERRY: "If at first you don't deceive, lie, lie again!")
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To: Still Thinking
Maybe we both just have good genes.

Maybe....maybe we just have some common sense and maybe we don't want to live for 140 years. I sure don't.

FMCDH(BITS)

46 posted on 08/24/2004 5:08:34 PM PDT by nothingnew (KERRY: "If at first you don't deceive, lie, lie again!")
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To: nothingnew
maybe we just have some common sense and maybe we don't want to live for 140 years

Well, we agree on that. I don't want you to live to be 140 either! ;-) Just kidding!

47 posted on 08/24/2004 5:10:08 PM PDT by Still Thinking
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How about letting kids in elementary school have recess???

Not an organized gym class - a plain old, run around like crazy, yell, chase the other kids, run away from the other kids, swing from the monkey bars, slide down the big slide recess.

But no, we have too much to teach kids, so they have sit still for six hours. And people wonder why obesity and ADD and ADHD are so prevalent. Oops, I forgot. I'm not a member of the NEA, so I don't know anything about brainwashing, whoops, make that educating children.


48 posted on 08/24/2004 5:12:27 PM PDT by KosmicKitty (Well... There you go again!)
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To: KosmicKitty

Baseball free from parents, a game of scrub in the afternoon


49 posted on 08/24/2004 5:14:53 PM PDT by D Edmund Joaquin (and may your nose always smell of apples (Song of Solomon 7:8))
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To: Ditter

To get strong bones do what cows do......eat grass.


50 posted on 08/24/2004 5:15:22 PM PDT by stockpirate (Real issue is Kerry attended meeting where VVAW discussed killing 7 US Senators! 11/71)
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