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Ramsey Clark to Join Panel for Saddam’s Defense
Arab News ^ | 25 August 2004 | Abdul Jalil Mustafa

Posted on 08/24/2004 7:01:39 PM PDT by Land_of_Lincoln_John

AMMAN, 25 August 2004 — Former US Justice Secretary Ramsey Clark is expected to join a legal team seeking to defend former Iraqi President Saddam Hussein before a special Iraqi tribunal, the panel’s chairman Mohammad Rashdan announced yesterday.

“Negotiations are under way for Clark’s joining of the team,” Rashdan told Arab News, without going into details.

Clark, an ardent sympathizer with Saddam’s government, will become one of the distinguished members of the panel, that also included former French Foreign Minister Roland Dumas and some 20 prominent Arab and non-Arab lawyers who volunteered to defend the former Iraqi leader.

Rashdan also revealed that a “group of Iraqi lawyers will arrive in Amman shortly” for coordinating the group’s efforts. He refused to divulge their names for security reasons.

Under the Iraq Bar Association bylaws, any foreign lawyer seeking involvement in litigation before Iraqi courts should be accompanied by an Iraqi lawyer.

“Contacts are going on among Amman, Paris and Geneva to ensure travel of the legal team at the opportune time for defending President Saddam,” Rashdan said.

Ensuring physical protection of the team’s members while in Iraq so far represented the most thorny issue after they received assassination threats by Iraqi ministers and groups affiliated with the government, according to team members.

Rashdan earlier said that his panel was obliged to resort to “private protection” to be provided by certain firms in Iraq after the Iraqi government failed to guarantee safety of the team’s members.

Saddam appeared in public before a special Iraqi court for the first time on July 1, when he refused to sign the indictment list in the absence of his lawyers.

Iraqi Interim Prime Minister Iyad Allawi recently called for “speeding up” trial of Saddam and other figures of the previous regime.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: iraq; looneyleft; mohammadrashdan; prisonersaddam; ramseyclark; rolanddumas; saddamhussein; sympathizers
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Still crazy after all these years.
1 posted on 08/24/2004 7:01:39 PM PDT by Land_of_Lincoln_John
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John

I still don't understand why this a**hole has never been indicted for treason.


2 posted on 08/24/2004 7:03:03 PM PDT by wagglebee (Benedict Arnold was for American independence before he was against it.)
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To: wagglebee

He's best friends with Kerry.


3 posted on 08/24/2004 7:04:23 PM PDT by Ron in Acreage (Kerry is a threat to national security)
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John

Surprise, surprise, surprise!

4 posted on 08/24/2004 7:05:09 PM PDT by The South Texan (The Democrat Party and the leftist (ABCCBSNBCCNN NYLATIMES)media are a criminal enterprise!)
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John

He keeps turning up in dark, dank places, like mold.


5 posted on 08/24/2004 7:05:29 PM PDT by hershey
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To: Ron in Acreage

Yeah, they should indict that a**hole too!


6 posted on 08/24/2004 7:05:36 PM PDT by wagglebee (Benedict Arnold was for American independence before he was against it.)
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To: Ron in Acreage

The pictures of these those two clowns together during the VVAW protests would make wonderful campaign fodder.


7 posted on 08/24/2004 7:06:11 PM PDT by Belisaurius ("Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, Ted" - Joseph Kennedy 1958)
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John
Reminder to the Media

Former US Justice Secretary Ramsey Clark IS A DEMOCRAT

8 posted on 08/24/2004 7:06:25 PM PDT by Mo1 (FR NEWS ALERT .... John Kerry over dosed on Botox and thinks he's Bob KerrEy)
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John

Ramsey Clark was a good buddy of John Kerry's during those protest years, wasn't he? I recall a photo of these two Anti-Americans in Sheeps' clothing from back then.


9 posted on 08/24/2004 7:06:25 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (I'm so glad to no longer be associated with the Party of Dependence on Government!)
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To: Ron in Acreage

They're coming out of the woodwork!


10 posted on 08/24/2004 7:06:52 PM PDT by Howlin (John Kerry & John Edwards: Political Malpractice)
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John

Pretty simple really.....I'm sure he's worked out a fat retainer.......With the tailspin the Kerry campaign is in and the likelyhood Kerry won't be handing out presidential appointments any decade soon, the liberals who tag along for scraps need to pay for their Starbucks and Georgetown condo's somehow?


11 posted on 08/24/2004 7:06:57 PM PDT by blackdog (Hell is an endless hayfield needing to be raked, baled, and put up.)
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To: hershey

He keeps turning up in dark, dank places, like mold.

 

Actually, the word "hemorrhoid" came to mind.

12 posted on 08/24/2004 7:07:33 PM PDT by Fintan (I don't need to know what it looks like to know what it looks like.)
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To: wagglebee

When they find Saddam guilty, could they hang him and then his lawyers?


13 posted on 08/24/2004 7:08:27 PM PDT by Uncle Vlad
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To: Billthedrill; Publius; Jeff Head

Too bad XXXlintigula got disbarred or he could help out as well.


14 posted on 08/24/2004 7:08:40 PM PDT by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (You can turn your head away from the Berg video and still hear Al Queda's calls to prayer.)
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John
This is rich!

Can we connect Kerry solidly to Clark? (other than Carter's appearance at the convention)

15 posted on 08/24/2004 7:10:12 PM PDT by Cold Heat (http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/staticpages/index.php?page=20040531140357545)
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John

"Clark, an ardent sympatizer with Saddam's government..."

Leaves you kind of speechless


17 posted on 08/24/2004 7:10:33 PM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John
Maybe he should keep a watchful eye over his shoulder and make sure that he doesn't travel too much. Funny how accidents happen.


18 posted on 08/24/2004 7:11:27 PM PDT by unixfox (Close the borders, problems solved!)
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John
How in the Hell could anyone in good conscience be a Saddam supporter and admirer?
Poor Clark is certifiable!!!!!!!!
19 posted on 08/24/2004 7:11:28 PM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: Cold Heat
Can we connect Kerry solidly to Clark? (other than Carter's appearance at the convention)

They damn near held hands during their VVAW days together. Shouldn't be hard.
20 posted on 08/24/2004 7:13:08 PM PDT by Belisaurius ("Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, Ted" - Joseph Kennedy 1958)
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John

Does this mean he won't be available to be Kerry's Secretary of State?


21 posted on 08/24/2004 7:13:30 PM PDT by w1andsodidwe (Jimmy Carter allowed radical Islam to get a foothold in Iran.)
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To: Ron in Acreage
He's best friends with Kerry.

He's also best friends with Fidel, Jane Fonda, and the rest of the anti-war crowd, not to mention his fantastic standing with the liberal main stream media?

22 posted on 08/24/2004 7:13:54 PM PDT by eeriegeno
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John

Where's the picture with Clark, Al Hubbard, and John Kerry - the three traitors?


23 posted on 08/24/2004 7:14:23 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan (A gun owner voting for John Kerry is like a chicken voting for Col. Saunders. (bye bye .30-30))
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To: Belisaurius






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Senator John Kerry wants to be president. His membership in the Council on Foreign Relations guarantees that the world government crowd will accept him. He can tap into his wife’s millions to overcome any fundraising shortfall. And his connection to Yale’s eerily secretive Skull & Bones Society opens doors to many of its movers and shakers — though veteran Bones critic Ron Rosenbaum notes the possibility of a "Bones versus Bones smackdown" should Bonesmen Bush and Kerry face off in 2004.

Kerry does not want the voting public made aware of his CFR and Bones credentials. Nor does he want to be likened to Ted Kennedy and Michael Dukakis, Massachusetts archliberals out of step with the nation at large. So when he presents himself to voters, he or his handlers insist that he is a foreign policy expert who benefits from past military service.

After an appearance at a New Hampshire campaign stop on April 2nd, an exceptional need for Kerry to trot out his military service occurred. He told a small group of future primary voters that "regime change" was needed not just in Iraq but "in the United States." Reacting to Kerry’s statement, Republicans pounced on him like wolves on a wounded lamb, claiming that by using the term "regime" he had likened the Bush administration to Saddam Hussein’s tyranny. So the senator and his aides played their military card. "I don’t need any lessons in patriotism or in caring about America from the likes of the right wing," Kerry told a Georgia audience. And he speedily supplied each of his campaign spokesmen with a statement that said in part: "Unlike many of his Republican critics, Senator Kerry has worn the uniform, served his country, seen combat, so he’d just as soon skip their lectures about supporting our troops."

Kerry did serve as an officer in the U.S. Navy during the Vietnam War. And he did win a Silver Star and three Purple Hearts. So far, so good. But when he returned home, he became a war protester. In America, of course, everybody is free to agree or disagree with a government policy. But Kerry did not just disagree; he became a leader of groups that championed our nation’s foes while our forces were still fighting and dying.

In 1971, the Communist Daily World delightedly published photos of him speaking to demonstrators as a leader of Vietnam Veterans Against the War (VVAW). The April 23, 1971 Daily World boasted that the marchers displayed a banner depicting a portrait of Communist Party leader Angela Davis, who was on record stating: "I am dedicated to the overthrow of your system of government and your society."

By frequently participating in VVAW’s demonstrations, Kerry found himself marching alongside what the Boston Herald Traveler identified as "revolutionary Communists." While noting that known Reds had openly organized these events, the December 12, 1971 Herald Traveler reported the presence of an "abundance of Vietcong flags, clenched fists raised in the air, and placards plainly bearing legends in support of China, Cuba, the USSR, North Korea and the Hanoi government."

Seeking election to the U.S. House in 1972, Kerry found it necessary to suppress reproduction of the cover picture appearing on his own book, The New Soldier. His political opponent pointed out that it depicted several unkempt youths crudely handling an American flag to mock the famous photo of the U.S. Marines at Iwo Jima. Suddenly, copies of the book became unavailable and even disappeared from libraries. But the Lowell (Mass.) Sun said of the type of person shown on its cover: "These people spit on the flag, they burn the flag, they carry the flag upside down, [and] they all but wipe their noses with it in their efforts to show their contempt for everything it still stands for."

During the 1972 "Kerry for Congress" campaign, flyers invited voters to "hear Ramsey Clark, former Attorney General, who has just recently returned from a visit in North Vietnam." While in Hanoi, Clark had distinguished himself by roundly condemning the United States, heaping praise on his Communist hosts, and lecturing American prisoners of war.

In May 1972, the Boston Phoenix reported that Kerry had defiantly given his medals back to the U.S. government during one of his many protests. New York Times columnist Bill Keller wrote in September 2002 that the senator invited him to view 40 minutes of films Kerry made depicting his war exploits. Keller wrote that anti-war doves would still support the man they remembered for "throwing his war ribbons onto the steps of the Capitol." When pressed about what happened to his medals, Kerry now says the medals he threw away were not his and that his are displayed in his Senate office. Retired General George S. Patton III would later angrily charge that Kerry’s actions had "given aid and comfort to the enemy."

Supremely arrogant and demonstrably contemptuous of the voting public, Kerry nevertheless regularly touts his military experience during his presidential run. But he forfeited the right to do that 30 years ago. Come to think of it, if he continues to posture as a war hero, he’ll lose the friendship of Ramsey Clark, Angela Davis, and the Daily World.

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24 posted on 08/24/2004 7:14:26 PM PDT by Cold Heat (http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/staticpages/index.php?page=20040531140357545)
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To: Cold Heat

Somebody here has a photo of Clark and Kerry, circa 1971...


25 posted on 08/24/2004 7:15:07 PM PDT by Graymatter (Bring it on, from Democratic "cut it out, waaaaaah")
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John

So now Clark endorses Saddam Hussein? Didn't Clark endorse Kerry a few months ago? How long will it be before Saddam Hussein endorses Kerry? This whole "six degrees of separation" thing is really starting to make sense.


26 posted on 08/24/2004 7:15:59 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John

Big suprise!! Just another anti-American commie POS maggot coming to the aid of a tyrant. Nothing new here.


27 posted on 08/24/2004 7:16:19 PM PDT by Constitutional Patriot (George W. Bush is a leader and John Kerry is not.)
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John

Ramsey CLARK

B I O D A T A

1927 Born December 18, 1927, Dallas, Texas. Son of Mary Ramsey Clark and Tom C. Clark. Attended public schools in Dallas, Texas; Los Angeles, California; Washington, D.C. Graduated Woodrow Wilson High School, Washington, D.C. 1946.

1945-1946 Served to rank of Corporal, United States Marine Corps.

1947-1950 Attended University of Texas; University of Chicago.
B.A., University of Texas 1949; A.M. American History,
J.D., University of Chicago, 1950.

1951-1960 Private practice of Law, Dallas, Texas.

1961-1968 Nominated Assistant Attorney General of United States by President John F. Kennedy, served to 1965; nominated Deputy Attorney General by President Lyndon B. Johnson, served to 1967; nominated Attorney General, served to January 20. 1969.

1969- Private practice of law; teacher, writer. New York and present Washington, D.C.

Family: Married Georgia Welch, Corpus Christi, Texas, April 16, 1949. Two Children: Ronda Kathleen Clark, born February 28, 1952; and Tom C. Clark, born February 17, 1954.

Address: 37 W. 12th Street, New York, N.Y. 10011.


More info: http://i-p-o.org/Clark.htm

His client list is interesting.


29 posted on 08/24/2004 7:18:00 PM PDT by auboy (MSM's creed: see no truth, hear no truth, speak no truth.)
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John; Mo1; All
From "Unfit For Command" page 160:

From July 29, 1972 through August 12, 1972, former attorney general Ramsey Clark traveled to Hanoi on behalf of the Stockholm International Commission for Inquiry. Clark denounced the United States bombing of VietNam and visited American POW's reporting that their health was good and the conditions of their imprisonment "could not be better"

Wanna bet that now, Ramsey will be appalled at the treatment Saddam received??

Prairie

30 posted on 08/24/2004 7:18:25 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (John Kerry's new theme song: "Ohh-ho, yes! I'm the Great Pretender...ooh,ooh")
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To: Peach; Miss Marple; Dog

ping


31 posted on 08/24/2004 7:20:34 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (John Kerry's new theme song: "Ohh-ho, yes! I'm the Great Pretender...ooh,ooh")
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To: EllaMinnow
Former US Justice Secretary Ramsey Clark is expected to join a legal team seeking to defend former Iraqi President Saddam Hussein before a special Iraqi tribunal, the panel’s chairman Mohammad Rashdan announced yesterday.

We can't even exaggerate about them anymore.

32 posted on 08/24/2004 7:22:10 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: cyncooper

How reliable is Arab News? I don't recall seeing stuff posted from that source here on FR very often.


33 posted on 08/24/2004 7:27:03 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (John Kerry's new theme song: "Ohh-ho, yes! I'm the Great Pretender...ooh,ooh")
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To: Made in USA

Thank you! :)


35 posted on 08/24/2004 7:28:14 PM PDT by Graymatter (Bring it on, from Democratic "cut it out, waaaaaah")
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John

Gonna need more rope...


36 posted on 08/24/2004 7:31:05 PM PDT by WillRain
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John
Liberalism is insanity. One must suspend all logic and reason to believe that black is white, right is wrong and good is evil.

I'm convinced that the twisted anger and hatred displayed by liberals for traditionally conservative American values and principles (and their proponents and adherents) is due to mental illness.

Every liberal I've ever known has held the belief that absolutes are arcane, quaint notions of the overly superstitious. The religious system of most liberals is Humanism. Humanism is steeped in the notion of moral relativism, and the end results thereof are decay, destruction and death.

To pursue decay, destruction and death in the face of a more hopeful and positive alternative is warped, twisted, sick.

It seems half of the people comprising our electorate have lost their minds.

37 posted on 08/24/2004 7:33:02 PM PDT by Chunga
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To: auboy

Hard to figure a son of the Lone Star State turning out SO bad.


38 posted on 08/24/2004 7:33:02 PM PDT by Pharmboy (History's greatest agent for freedom: The US Armed Forces)
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To: wagglebee

Why? For the same reason jimmie (da commie bastard nut) is still among us.


39 posted on 08/24/2004 7:33:20 PM PDT by steplock
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John

Maybe we could book his flight to Iraq on Aeroflot or some other Russian airline.


40 posted on 08/24/2004 7:34:09 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (...and Freedom tastes of Reality)
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John
Will this hurt Ramsey Clark's chances of becoming John Kerry's Attorney General if he becomes the next POTUS?

:-)

41 posted on 08/24/2004 7:34:13 PM PDT by MJY1288 (John Kerry Says he Would Conduct a More Thoughtful and Sensitive War on Terror)
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To: steplock

The peanut farmer is probably going to volunteer to "observe" the jury votes and investigate "voter fraud".


42 posted on 08/24/2004 7:34:52 PM PDT by wagglebee (Benedict Arnold was for American independence before he was against it.)
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To: steplock
Hard to figure a son of the Lone Star State turning out SO bad.

His education at the University of Chicago??? (My apologies to the great Milton Friedman).

43 posted on 08/24/2004 7:35:30 PM PDT by Land_of_Lincoln_John (http://www.bluestatesforbush.com)
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To: prairiebreeze

I admit, the same thought occurred to me. Best to proceed with caution on the sourcing.


44 posted on 08/24/2004 7:38:33 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John

There should be some kind of mandatory execution for anyone who willingly seeks to defend Saddam in a court of law


45 posted on 08/24/2004 7:40:22 PM PDT by Yonkers Finest
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To: prairiebreeze

Don't forget .. Old Ramsey Clark is supporting John Kerry for President


46 posted on 08/24/2004 7:45:33 PM PDT by Mo1 (FR NEWS ALERT .... John Kerry over dosed on Botox and thinks he's Bob KerrEy)
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To: Chunga

You could not be more correct my freind.


47 posted on 08/24/2004 7:45:58 PM PDT by vpintheak (Our Liberties we prize, and our rights we will maintain!)
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To: wagglebee
Something SERIOUSLY AWFUL has happened to Ramsey Clark's Brain; Either he has Terminal Alzheimer's, or the Soviets managed to Destroy His Mind.

Mr Clark is to be Pitied!!

Doc

48 posted on 08/24/2004 7:46:23 PM PDT by Doc On The Bay
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To: Pharmboy

Seems Clark moved to California at a young age.

•When my family moved to Los Angeles when I was a kid, before World War II, it was a paradise. The word smog hadn't been invented. There were no such things as freeways. There were mountains, beaches, deserts, and wildlife, and 49 percent of the land in the area was owned by the people of the United States. But the machinery that would destroy that paradise had already been put in motion.•

From a long barf-filled interview by DERRICK JENSEN in the Sun Magazine (I found through a Google search). I've never heard of it but it sounds from this article that it's a leftist web site.


49 posted on 08/24/2004 7:49:36 PM PDT by auboy (MSM's creed: see no truth, hear no truth, speak no truth.)
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To: Doc On The Bay
No, Ramsey Clark came out as a full-blown anti-American as soon as he left office. My guess is that he was a Soviet sympathizer before he even became AG.

And no I don't need any tinfoil. The man is as far-left as they come.

50 posted on 08/24/2004 7:50:00 PM PDT by wagglebee (Benedict Arnold was for American independence before he was against it.)
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