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Kerry Calls for Rumsfeld to Quit over Abu Ghraib
Scotsman ^

Posted on 08/25/2004 11:00:28 AM PDT by GulliverSwift

Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry called today for Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld to resign and urged President George Bush to appoint an independent group to recommend reforms after a report faulted all levels of the military for abuse at Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq.

“It’s not just the little person at the bottom who ought to pay the price of responsibility,” Kerry said at a Philadelphia union hall. “The buck doesn’t stop at the Pentagon.”

A report released yesterday by an independent panel led by former Defence Secretary James Schlesinger concluded that senior US military leaders in Iraq and the Pentagon could be faulted for inattention to prisoner abuses, but it did not recommend that Rumsfeld step down.

“What is missing from all these reports is accountability from the senior civilian leaders in the Pentagon and in the White House,” Kerry said.

“From the bottom of the chain of command all the way to the top, there needs to be accountability. The Schlesinger report makes clear that Secretary Rumsfeld was responsible for setting a climate where these types of abuses could occur.”

Kerry said an independent investigation should review the decision-making process that led to the abuses and provide comprehensive reforms to ensure abuses do not recur.

“The time has come for our commander in chief to take charge,” he said.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abughraib; abughraibreport; demon; demoncrat; heinztomato; kerry; ketchup; ketchupboy; rumsfeld; tomatoboy; traitor
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"Look how well I can salute. Rumsfeld can't do that."

1 posted on 08/25/2004 11:00:28 AM PDT by GulliverSwift
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To: GulliverSwift

Then I suppose he should quit for the war crimes he admitted committing.


2 posted on 08/25/2004 11:01:43 AM PDT by mnehring (YP4W)
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To: mnehrling

3 posted on 08/25/2004 11:03:53 AM PDT by Sister_T (Democrats AND The Partisan Press are the REAL enemies to freedom in the world!)
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To: GulliverSwift

Yo Ketchupman, trying to change the subject away from your lying, traitorous past and present actions, huh?


4 posted on 08/25/2004 11:04:24 AM PDT by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: GulliverSwift

What happened at Abu Ghraib is secondary to the prosecution of the war effort. Why Mr. Kerry would want to derail our war effort just to make a few brownie points on the Abu Ghraib controversy is beyond me.


5 posted on 08/25/2004 11:04:38 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: GulliverSwift

Pathetic.

If I cared at all for him, I would be embarassed for him.

How long does Rumsfeld have if the Americans are foolish enough to elect its royal highness Terrorayza as co-president? A few months?

And if he resigns today, that will make a difference, how??

Yes, lets trump up Abu Ghraib again, keep beating those drums.

Perhaps you can cover what a lying, boasting, bloviating braggart you are.


6 posted on 08/25/2004 11:04:49 AM PDT by Westbrook
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To: mnehrling
Kerry said an independent investigation should review the decision-making process that led to the abuses

I'm sure Kerry would distort the military records, just like he did in 'Nam.

"Rumsfeld asked officers in Iraq to think of the funnest ways to torture prisoners."

7 posted on 08/25/2004 11:04:55 AM PDT by GulliverSwift (No tomatoes were harmed during the making of this post)
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To: mnehrling
Exectly! Let's do a tit-for-tat. Kerry should have resigned years ago, when he failed to show up at the Senate, and he should have been tried for war crimes and hung by the neck until dead for aiding and abetting the enemy in North Vietnam.
8 posted on 08/25/2004 11:06:08 AM PDT by TommyDale
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To: GulliverSwift

Quick, somebody post the Aw Jeez guy. At least the Grab an Arab guards didn't cut off ears and heads and zap people's genitals, Mr. Kerry--remember the stuff you witnessed and participated in in Vietnam. What a schmuck.


9 posted on 08/25/2004 11:06:39 AM PDT by beaversmom (Michael Medved has the Greatest radio show on GOD's Green Earth)
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To: GulliverSwift
“It’s not just the little person at the bottom who ought to pay the price of responsibility,” Kerry said at a Philadelphia union hall. “The buck doesn’t stop at the Pentagon.”

Creep.
10 posted on 08/25/2004 11:07:28 AM PDT by Tealc
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To: GulliverSwift

So much Washington "theater", much like the useless 9/11 Commission.


11 posted on 08/25/2004 11:08:36 AM PDT by caisson71
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To: beaversmom

12 posted on 08/25/2004 11:09:13 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (Santorum 2008)
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To: Sister_T

Senator, the voters of America want you to step down


13 posted on 08/25/2004 11:09:19 AM PDT by stockpirate (Real issue is Kerry attended meeting where VVAW discussed killing 7 US Senators! 11/71)
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To: TommyDale

In fact, being a US Senator at the time of the Abu Ghraib incident, Kerry is also partially responsible. He should resign and decline any other public office.


14 posted on 08/25/2004 11:09:55 AM PDT by rightwingcrazy
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To: GulliverSwift

What happened at Abu Graih amounted to hazing. The fodder Kerry gave the North Vietnamese during his 1971 testimony before the Sen. FR Comm. amounted to treason.


15 posted on 08/25/2004 11:09:58 AM PDT by My2Cents (http://www.conservativesforbush.com)
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To: GulliverSwift
Is this the boiling kettle calling the stone cold pot black? Gad, is that Politically Incorrect?

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16 posted on 08/25/2004 11:10:00 AM PDT by sonofatpatcher2 (Texas, Love & a .45-- What more could you want, campers? };^)
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To: GulliverSwift

As Kerry selfs destructs, can anyone tell me if there has ever been a presidential nominee who fled the country prior to the general election, or will this be a first?


17 posted on 08/25/2004 11:10:01 AM PDT by G.Mason (A war mongering, red white and blue, military industrial complex, Al Qaeda incinerating American.)
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To: GulliverSwift

Funniest thing to me about all of Kerry's latest "issues", there are no, I mean no, other elected Dems backing him up.

At least I haven't heard or seen any.

Cleland doesn't count because he's not an elected Dem anymore. Podesta doesn't count. Donna Brazille or Carville don't count.

I'm talking folks like "deeply saddened Tommy", or Big Teddy, even Hillary or Billary. Nobody around seems to be echoing Kerry's sentiments or delusions. He seems isolated from his party.


18 posted on 08/25/2004 11:11:00 AM PDT by dawn53
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To: G.Mason

He may be the first with a horde of Rats to follow.


19 posted on 08/25/2004 11:11:04 AM PDT by DarthVader (John Kerry is really Janet Reno dressed up as a man.)
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To: GulliverSwift

Kerry must be falling like a rock in their internal polling. They have smacked of desparation for two plus days now.

BTW, the commision that released the report said it would be terrible for the country if the defense secretary resigned over this.


20 posted on 08/25/2004 11:11:14 AM PDT by JLS
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To: beaversmom

"I witnessed that Rumsfeld had personally raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan, shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks, and generally ravaged the countryside of Iraq in addition to the normal ravage of war, and the normal and very particular ravaging which is done by the applied bombing power of this country."

21 posted on 08/25/2004 11:12:04 AM PDT by GulliverSwift (No tomatoes were harmed during the making of this post)
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To: GulliverSwift

I listened to the audio and Kerry called for someone named " Rumsfelt " to resign.


22 posted on 08/25/2004 11:12:16 AM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue ( When the going gets tough-John Kerry gets going-far away)
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To: sonofatpatcher2

Sure, It was Gen George Marshalls fault Gen Patton slapped a soldier. Roosevelt should have fire the entire defense department? Kerry is such a Mooooooran.


23 posted on 08/25/2004 11:14:15 AM PDT by ALPAPilot
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To: sonofatpatcher2
Speaking of the Pot calling the Kettle....

Kerry's original excuse for his testimony against his fellow vets was that they were just following orders and the leadership was to blame.... (Reichstad anyone??)

Anyway... Kerry was an officer, therefore a leader.. if they were to blame then he was one of the ones to blame for all of the atrocities he is saying happened..
24 posted on 08/25/2004 11:14:48 AM PDT by mnehring (YP4W)
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To: DarthVader
"He may be the first with a horde of Rats to follow."

Ah ha ... Pied Piper Kerry.

I envision this guy having a very solitary future. After the Heinz heiress dumps him what's left Kennedy?

25 posted on 08/25/2004 11:16:59 AM PDT by G.Mason (A war mongering, red white and blue, military industrial complex, Al Qaeda incinerating American.)
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To: dawn53
What's ironic is that the reason why Kerry won all those primaries is because Demon voters thought that he would be the most electable.

They didn't think, "I love this guy." Instead, they merely thought he was the most electable. Of course, they had barely heard his speaking, his bagpipe drone of a voice.

26 posted on 08/25/2004 11:17:43 AM PDT by GulliverSwift (No tomatoes were harmed during the making of this post)
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To: ALPAPilot

“The time has come for our commander in chief to take charge,” he said

Yeah, Arrest Kerry for war crimes.


27 posted on 08/25/2004 11:19:06 AM PDT by LtKerst (Lt Kerst)
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To: ALPAPilot

“The time has come for our commander in chief to take charge,” he said

Yeah, Arrest Kerry for war crimes.


28 posted on 08/25/2004 11:19:37 AM PDT by LtKerst (Lt Kerst)
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To: Brilliant
Why Mr. Kerry would want to derail our war effort ....

Force of habit.

29 posted on 08/25/2004 11:22:37 AM PDT by dighton
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To: GulliverSwift

How about, I call for Kerry to quit because he's stupid? Would it carry any more meaning or be just an opinion?


30 posted on 08/25/2004 11:23:20 AM PDT by rave123
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To: LtKerst

WASHINGTON (AP) — John Kerry said Thursday 2/05/04 his intervention on a legislative matter that affected the nation's most expensive highway project had nothing to do with an insurer who benefited from his action and later gave him tens of thousands of dollars in donations.

The Big Dig Scandal, Boston, cost overrun, 12 billion dollars. Where is this investigation. Why has Kerry not been asked to step down.

OPs4 God BLess America!


31 posted on 08/25/2004 11:24:18 AM PDT by OPS4 (worth repeating)
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To: GulliverSwift

That's ironic, because the report specifically states ' that Rumsfeld had NOTHING to do with it'!


32 posted on 08/25/2004 11:24:18 AM PDT by Inge C
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To: GulliverSwift
A self-confessed war criminal telling Rummie to resign because of panties. Get real!

On second thought......FREE SLOBO!!!!!

33 posted on 08/25/2004 11:24:57 AM PDT by MadelineZapeezda (CPR for hampsters, nothing for the Unborn!)
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To: OPS4
I also have a feeling this is why McCain has not been too harsh with Kerry. McCain helped sign off on the contractors to make the effort 'bipartisan'.
34 posted on 08/25/2004 11:25:33 AM PDT by mnehring (YP4W)
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To: JLS

this is nothing but a feeble attempt to change the focus to the iraq prison "scandal" and away from kerry's implosion


35 posted on 08/25/2004 11:28:11 AM PDT by RolandBurnam
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To: Inge C
called today for Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld to resign and urged President George Bush to appoint an independent group to recommend reforms

He'd like that. Another 9/11 committee-type kangaroo hearing where the media can salivate and run naked picture after naked picture.

36 posted on 08/25/2004 11:29:00 AM PDT by GulliverSwift (No tomatoes were harmed during the making of this post)
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To: GulliverSwift

I'm calling for sKerry to STFU.


37 posted on 08/25/2004 11:29:19 AM PDT by Jenya (Buy Unfit for Command. Donate to Swiftvets.com. It's your American duty.)
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To: GulliverSwift

This actually ties into a radio news report by, I think, ABC, that says the report on Abu Ghraib assigned guilt and involvement to the highest levels of command, including Rumsfeld.

I'm not kidding. The news announcer actually said that.


38 posted on 08/25/2004 11:29:26 AM PDT by coconutt2000
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To: coconutt2000

It was a Marxian Slip.


39 posted on 08/25/2004 11:30:30 AM PDT by GulliverSwift (No tomatoes were harmed during the making of this post)
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To: G.Mason

He has been living a lie and it is finally catching up with him. What he is doing is steaming up Americans by displaying his unbelievable childish immaturity (a characteristic of most libs)Ole Lantern face is doing more to destroy himself than anyone I have ever seen. The more you see him, the more you hate him. I used to see quite a few Ketchup Boy B stickers here in NOVA but they seem to be going away. I wonder why? (snicker >:-)


40 posted on 08/25/2004 11:30:47 AM PDT by DarthVader (John Kerry is really Janet Reno dressed up as a man.)
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To: GulliverSwift

I am pretty sure that he always lets his pinky stick out a little, like a proper teacup holder. That is not a part of any military salute that I know of. I will look for more salute pictures to see if any other examples exist.


41 posted on 08/25/2004 11:31:30 AM PDT by webheart
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To: GulliverSwift

Damn this POS.........They try an toss GI's in jail that put panties on the head of an enemy and yet promote this trash mouth self confessed war criminal traitor as presidential !

Doom on Kerry and his trolls !


42 posted on 08/25/2004 11:33:21 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: GulliverSwift
and Chode calls for jean phouqin keri to resign from the senate for missing 80% of his job

his call and $5.00 will get that POS a cup of coffee at $tarbuck$ too!!!

43 posted on 08/25/2004 11:33:31 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: GulliverSwift
Posted earlier today with 25 + replies, if anyone wants to see those comments.

John Kerry asking for Rumfeld to resign!

44 posted on 08/25/2004 11:36:11 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (kerry and the RATs can't stand facts or truth.)
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To: GulliverSwift

In the tactical world, this is called a "diversion"! He is firing for effect! The glib lib media will be on this one!

So if Rumy has to resign, I guess Jf'nK will have to turn himself in for all those self-confessed war crimes??


45 posted on 08/25/2004 11:36:25 AM PDT by texson66 ("Tyranny is yielding to the lust of the governing." - Lord Moulton)
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To: GulliverSwift

Great hair--I think that man would make a great president someday.


46 posted on 08/25/2004 11:39:48 AM PDT by beaversmom (Michael Medved has the Greatest radio show on GOD's Green Earth)
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To: dawn53

OH and dont forget our beloved harry reid ,he has been real quiet ,up for reelection meez thinks.


47 posted on 08/25/2004 11:50:54 AM PDT by douglas1
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To: GulliverSwift
This is hilarious! A confessed war criminal demands Cheney's resignation for "war crimes."

As I recall, Kerry did not call for Clark Clifford's resignation in 1969.

I wonder why...

Nor did Kerry call for William Cohen's resignation in 2000, when those GIs raped a Japanese civilian.

I wonder why...

Somebody should be asking Kerry just such questions. Too bad the media is MIA.

48 posted on 08/25/2004 11:51:51 AM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: ElkGroveDan

Thank you. I think Aw Jeez is going to be paged more and more as November gets closer.


49 posted on 08/25/2004 1:01:32 PM PDT by beaversmom (Michael Medved has the Greatest radio show on GOD's Green Earth)
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To: GulliverSwift
Let's call for him to tell us where he got the information about airport security..you know the stuff he gave a speech about AFTER Sandy Burglar Berger stuffed his pants with classified papers and "lost" them


Doogle
50 posted on 08/25/2004 1:10:26 PM PDT by Doogle (USAF..408th MMS...Ubon, Thailand "69" ..."Wolfpack".night line delivery "Doogle")
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