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Nov. 3, 2004: Vietnam vets - finally, you heroes have come home
Doug from Upland | 8-25-04 | Doug from Upland

Posted on 08/25/2004 1:51:55 PM PDT by doug from upland

Nov. 3, 2004: Vietnam vets - finally, you heroes have come home

You were spit on. You were called war criminals. You were called baby killers. You served your country and came home to abuse and to be shunned by your countrymen. Many never came home at all.

There were lost limbs, broken lives, broken families, alcoholism, drugs, homelessness, despair, and even suicide. You could not understand why you were so hated. There was no parade welcoming you home. There was nobody to offer you their seat on a full airplane. There was no one wanting to shake your hand and say, "God bless you, soldier. Thank you for what you have done for our country." Never have some of us been so ashamed of our country because of what was done to you.

Yesterday's crushing electoral defeat of Senator John F. Kerry has finally brought some closure. The repudiation of one of the chief architects of bringing together the forces that heaped shame and indignity on you has finally shown the whole world what many of us knew all along. You served honorably. You were heroes.

In desperation, Kerry made a few weak attempts of hinting at apology. It was far too little. It was far too late. It was far too disingenuous. And it angered and lost the support of the most vile of those on the America-hating far left.

For the service Kerry actually gave in Vietnam, he has our gratitude. His refusal to open all the records during the campaign still leaves us wondering what his service really was and what medals he really did earn. Apparently, he is never going to let us know all of the truth.

Three decades ago, Kerry stabbed you in the back. He did it then during demonstrations, public statements, and sworn testimony before Congress in which he lied about fellow comrades in arms. The damage he did was considerable. He caused men to die. Many of you were tortured because you would not repeat his lies and admit to your torturers that you were war criminals.

During the 2004 campaign, Kerry shamelessly did it again. With people like James Carville and Paul Begala, the Hollywood elite, a failed far left network called Air America, newspapers such as the NEW YORK TIMES and LOS ANGELES TIMES, media surrogates such as Chris Matthews, and an endless supply of the slimiest attorneys, he attacked the swift boat vets who actually had the courage to come forward and set the record straight. Kerry's hitmen, and they were that in every sense of the word, tried to blackmail them into silence by creating "Brown Books" that looked into their personal lives to find financial and marital trouble. Seldom in the history of this great nation has a presidential candidate stooped so low as did John Forbes Kerry. To say that he got down in the gutter is to give him credit for too high an elevation. He was below the gutter. He was in the sewer with vermin.

The more we learned about Kerry, the more Americans didn't like him. That is why he tried so hard to suppress UNFIT FOR COMMAND. That is why 527 groups spent over a hundred million dollars trying to do damage to President Bush, why a billionaire spent a fortune, and why a slovenly so-called documentary filmmaker created one of the great works of propaganda ever produced.

The political tsunami finally hit shore and washed away Kerry's campaign when all of America finally learned that Kerry was a hero on both sides of the war. Yes, they saw his place of honor in Vietnamese Communist War Remnants Museum (formerly known as the "War Crimes Museum") in Ho Chi Minh City (Saigon). The communists who killed over 50,000 Americans celebrate Kerry as a hero.

We can never make up for what this country did to you. We can only ask your forgiveness. You were the forgotten heroes. No longer. You have been vindicated. With heavy hearts, open arms, and tears in our eyes, we say to you all, welcome home, heroes. Finally, welcome home.


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1 posted on 08/25/2004 1:51:56 PM PDT by doug from upland
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To: Kathy in Alaska; MoJo2001; Fawnn; blackie; onyx; doodlelady; Rabid Dog; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
WELCOME HOME, Viet Nam Vets and THANK YOU for your service!!!!!

2 posted on 08/25/2004 1:54:27 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (If only hamsters could talk...THEY'D tell you the truth that Upland IS in Pennsylvania!)
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To: doug from upland

Spot on, Doug... Spot on.

I'm working hard for the President to make sure that you can publish this article on the date intended.


3 posted on 08/25/2004 1:55:18 PM PDT by So Cal Rocket (Fabrizio Quattrocchi: "Adesso vi faccio vedere come muore un italiano")
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To: So Cal Rocket

With all our hard work, it will happen, my friend.


4 posted on 08/25/2004 1:56:48 PM PDT by doug from upland (John Kerry cried and asked TaRAYaz to make the SwiftVets stop)
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To: doug from upland
What are you smoking? Its' not fair unless you brought enough for everyone. I had to read it twice to understand that the date was Nov 3, 2004.
5 posted on 08/25/2004 1:57:02 PM PDT by vetvetdoug (In memory of T/Sgt. Secundino "Dean" Baldonado, Jarales, NM-KIA Bien Hoa AFB, RVN 1965)
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To: doug from upland
It's rare that anything brings a tear to my eye. That did. Thank you Doug. And especially thanks to all the men and women who have served and defended our country so.
6 posted on 08/25/2004 2:00:25 PM PDT by whatexit
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To: vetvetdoug

The only thing I smoke is salmon. :)


7 posted on 08/25/2004 2:00:30 PM PDT by doug from upland (John Kerry cried and asked TaRAYaz to make the SwiftVets stop)
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To: doug from upland
PING from the tear-filled eyes of a Vietnam Veteran's son.

Praying that this indeed comes true!

8 posted on 08/25/2004 2:00:40 PM PDT by NorCoGOP (Kerry/Edwards 2004 - The Gang that couldn't spin straight!)
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To: doug from upland

I pray that this will truly be the case on Nov. 3rd. For some reason, I've been thinking that the President will get 55% of the vote. I have no idea why that amount; if it's more I'll just pop open another bottle of bubbly!


9 posted on 08/25/2004 2:00:59 PM PDT by SuziQ (Bush in 2004-Because we MUST!!!)
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To: doug from upland

I liked what you wrote. I really hope, wish and pray it will come to fruition. Now did you bring enough smoked salmon for everyone?


10 posted on 08/25/2004 2:02:18 PM PDT by vetvetdoug (In memory of T/Sgt. Secundino "Dean" Baldonado, Jarales, NM-KIA Bien Hoa AFB, RVN 1965)
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To: doug from upland

Forgive me if I don't applaud your post, but this RVN vet isn't ready to say this election is over. Voters have been fooled before('92 and '96, specifically).

Limbaugh, in the past, has asked the question: "Is the American voter stupid?" I am prepared to answer that question with a resounding "Yes"! That answer, of course, does have its exceptions.


11 posted on 08/25/2004 2:04:03 PM PDT by izzatzo
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To: Brad's Gramma; doug from upland
We can never make up for what this country did to you. We can only ask your forgiveness. You were the forgotten heroes. No longer. You have been vindicated. With heavy hearts, open arms, and tears in our eyes, we say to you all, welcome home, heroes. Finally, welcome home.

Amen!
12 posted on 08/25/2004 2:04:25 PM PDT by Fawnn (Canteen wOOhOO Consultant and CookingWithPam.com person - Faith makes things possible, not easy.)
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To: doug from upland

May God bless all our brave men who fought in Vietnam. You done us proud.


13 posted on 08/25/2004 2:06:34 PM PDT by Ciexyz ("FR, best viewed with a budgie on hand")
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To: izzatzo

I know it isn't over. The other side has the mainstream media, an endless supply of money, and the most vile and dishonest people imaginable on their side. We are in the battle of our lives. That God for the swift vets who have come back three decades later to again answer the call of their nation.


14 posted on 08/25/2004 2:07:11 PM PDT by doug from upland (John Kerry cried and asked TaRAYaz to make the SwiftVets stop)
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To: doug from upland

bump from the daughter of a Vietnam Vet who never heard those words before he died.


15 posted on 08/25/2004 2:07:19 PM PDT by eyespysomething ("Funding the American troops in combat should never be a complicated issue." D. Cheney 8-12-04)
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To: eyespysomething

Maybe he is hearing them now from a place we all hope will be ours.


16 posted on 08/25/2004 2:09:43 PM PDT by doug from upland (John Kerry cried and asked TaRAYaz to make the SwiftVets stop)
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To: doug from upland

bttt


17 posted on 08/25/2004 2:11:10 PM PDT by Christian4Bush (I approve this message: character and integrity matter. Bush/Cheney '04)
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To: doug from upland

I hope you are psychic!


18 posted on 08/25/2004 2:12:49 PM PDT by austingirl
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To: austingirl

bttt


19 posted on 08/25/2004 2:14:50 PM PDT by landerwy
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To: doug from upland

May it be thus, O Lord, may it be thus ...


20 posted on 08/25/2004 2:15:02 PM PDT by Pegita ('Tis so sweet to trust in Jesus, just to take Him at His Word ...)
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To: doug from upland

Thanks Doug...


21 posted on 08/25/2004 2:15:09 PM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: doug from upland

That what I think. Thanks.


22 posted on 08/25/2004 2:16:36 PM PDT by eyespysomething ("Funding the American troops in combat should never be a complicated issue." D. Cheney 8-12-04)
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To: doug from upland
The only thing I smoke is salmon....

Better than Carp....too hard to keep them lit....and crawfish will pinch your nose....if you dont hold them the right way while lighting them...

23 posted on 08/25/2004 2:17:23 PM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: doug from upland

Beautiful.


24 posted on 08/25/2004 2:21:11 PM PDT by mewper
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To: doug from upland

Great article -- get it published on Nov. 3, 2004!


25 posted on 08/25/2004 2:21:50 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation

Maybe it would have more impact to have it published now. :)


26 posted on 08/25/2004 2:23:30 PM PDT by doug from upland (John Kerry cried and asked TaRAYaz to make the SwiftVets stop)
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To: doug from upland
Nicely done!

BTTT!
27 posted on 08/25/2004 2:25:25 PM PDT by NYTexan (Fear Mongering is the soul of Liberalism!)
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To: doug from upland

Bump for AM read


28 posted on 08/25/2004 2:30:15 PM PDT by bruin66 (Time: Nature's way of keeping everything from happening at once.)
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To: IPWGOP
Great cartoon -- it has Kerry wanting to take his swift boat and flee down river


29 posted on 08/25/2004 2:48:43 PM PDT by doug from upland (John Kerry cried and asked TaRAYaz to make the SwiftVets stop)
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To: SuziQ
I've been saying and thinking the result will be something like 37% Kerry. Bush 58%, Nader 5%. I don't drink but when these numbers come up on Nov. 3, I'm going to have a big one.

The only other thing we will need is 61 republican senators, and Daschle not being one of the dems.
30 posted on 08/25/2004 3:06:12 PM PDT by chainsaw (VOTE AMERICAN - VOTE REPUBLICAN)
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To: SuziQ

I've been telling my husband the same thing - 55%. Hopefully it will be a self-fulfulling prophecy. :)


31 posted on 08/25/2004 3:08:14 PM PDT by agrace
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To: doug from upland

Brilliant...Do you have ESP per chance?


32 posted on 08/25/2004 3:16:05 PM PDT by nyconse
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To: doug from upland

Viet Nam Veterans, they are STILL serving!


33 posted on 08/25/2004 3:16:33 PM PDT by wjcsux (Don't be a girly man! Vote Republican!)
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To: doug from upland
Ramsey Clark to Join Panel for Saddam’s Defense

arabnews press release 25 August 2004


NOTE :
Ramsey Clark is pictured below with Kerry and
Vietnam phony vet Al Hubbard
Who was head of the
Vietnam Veterans Against the War movement.




NEW:
FReeper smith288 has an online version of
Kerry's "The New Soldier"
You can read it without downloading pdf files!
CLICK HERE


From Kerry's "The New Soldier":
Al Hubbard Sgt., 22 Troop Carrier Squadron Aug. ’65-June ’66

Emotions: Walking down the flight line at Saigon past stacks of aluminum cases containing American bodies and past stacks of aluminum luggage containing American currency. Seeing the tight, sad face of an Airman loading the bodies aboard a dirty Air Force Transport and the wide smiling face of a stewardess greeting the passengers aboard a clean Pan American Clipper Jet. Hearing a Vietnamese beg you to leave his country and an American colonel tells you to bomb his country. Hearing a Vietnamese invite you to live in his home, after the war and an American explain why you can’t live in his block, after the war. Flying over barren, brown, safe American held terrain and over lush, green unsafe enemy terrain. Feeling happy to be leaving a country in which you do not belong and sad to be returning to a country in which you are not allowed to belong. Sacrificing a portion of your consciousness so you won’t have to deal with being there and building mental blocks so you won’t have to deal with having been there.

- Al Hubbard, proven fraud who never set foot in Viet Nam. The only Vietnamese he ever met was when he was collaborating with the North Vietnamese in Paris
on the American Communist Party's nickel.
John Kerry's explanation: "He (Hubbard) simply exaggarated his particular position.
But nobody knew it at the time. And those things happen."

The New Soldier, (46 pages)
By John Kerry
and Vietnam Veterans
Against the War

PART I (pdf file)
PART II (pdf file)
PART III (pdf file)

Kerry hopes everyone
in the USA gets this book!

Send this url for the online version

http://ejsmithweb.com/fr/newsoldier/


Print this out (46 pages) and disribute it,
especially to the liberals you know.

Copy and paste the links to everyone you know.

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http://nomayo.mu.nu/archives/New%20Soldier.pdf

http://nomayo.mu.nu/archives/New%20Soldier%20Epilogue.pdf


"First Kerry picked Edwards BUT now he picks Hanoi Jane!"




34 posted on 08/25/2004 3:18:40 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Hanoi Jane and Hanoi Kerry sitting in a tree, sitting in a tree F-R-E-N-C-H-I-N-G)
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To: doug from upland

How will Kerry apoligize to my brothers - who can't hear him now?

Kerry's activity gave aid and comfort to the enemy that killed them --- and extended the war to cause the death of many more.

Kerry IS the enemy.....no apology at this time is acceptable - no apology is sufficent...

Semper Fi

35 posted on 08/25/2004 3:38:52 PM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek...But I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: nyconse

No ESP. Unlike Kerry, I have no need to tell whoppers.


36 posted on 08/25/2004 4:12:26 PM PDT by doug from upland (John Kerry cried and asked TaRAYaz to make the SwiftVets stop)
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To: river rat

That picture is so real and moving. I went to the wall on Father's Day, 1995. Messages from wives, sons and daughters, were everywhere. We all cried, everyone who was there. All strangers sharing a common loss.


37 posted on 08/25/2004 4:18:44 PM PDT by Luke21 (Christ is wonderful)
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To: doug from upland

Great vision...but what about the polls?


38 posted on 08/25/2004 4:31:55 PM PDT by rushmom
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To: rushmom

The polls, they are a changin'.


39 posted on 08/25/2004 4:43:23 PM PDT by doug from upland (John Kerry cried and asked TaRAYaz to make the SwiftVets stop)
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To: doug from upland

Doug, all over the electronic media, including Fox, it's all about what an uphill battle Bush has, and how great Kerry is doing. It's hard not to be down.


40 posted on 08/25/2004 4:51:29 PM PDT by rushmom
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To: river rat

This picture makes me cry every time I see it!!!


41 posted on 08/25/2004 4:55:25 PM PDT by Betteboop
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To: doug from upland

Thanks Doug, this means alot to all of us. These are strange times. During the '70s I never told people I was a Marine and cretainly never mentioned VietNam. When Reagan came in it became kinda cool to be a Vet again, so cool that men everywhere started faking it. Now we are at a point where every man that ever donned green skivvies is a damn hero! I knew heroes and they're all dead.


42 posted on 08/25/2004 5:20:08 PM PDT by chesty_puller
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To: doug from upland

Thank you so much for this sweet letter. When Bush is reelected in Nov., I will do what I did at the Inauguration in 2000-cry happy tears for America and for our future.


43 posted on 08/25/2004 5:24:34 PM PDT by gimme1ibertee (W04!)
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To: doug from upland

Thank you, Doug.

Taxman Bravo Zulu!


44 posted on 08/25/2004 6:55:48 PM PDT by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: doug from upland; All

I have to share this story with all of you. I am a server at a restaurant (or waitress as I like to call myself since I'm so politically incorrect). Anyway, a thorn in my side is that we have a bottle of Heinz ketchup at every table, so I have to look at the stuff while I'm working.

I was checking on one of my tables, a man and women, and the man was just pounding the heck out of the Heinz ketchup bottle while putting it on his plate. I asked if there was a problem, and he said, (paraphrasing)..... "Yes, I hate Kerry, and I'm taking it out on this ketchup bottle". I about lost it, I had to laugh! I could not resist letting him know in a descreet way that I shared his opinion.

On a more serious note, I am looking forward to Nov. 3, not only because we will have 4 more years of a great president, but because our Vietnam Veterans, those living and ones who have passed, WILL FINALLY BE HOME.


45 posted on 08/25/2004 7:40:13 PM PDT by LisaMalia (In Memory of Sgt. James W."Billy" Lunsford..KIA 11-29-69 Binh Dinh S. Vietnam)
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To: LisaMalia

I embarrass Mrs. DFU by making a scene at a restaurant. I demand that they remove the Heinz, and I whip out my bottle of W Ketchup. www.wketchup.com


46 posted on 08/25/2004 7:47:09 PM PDT by doug from upland (John Kerry cried and asked TaRAYaz to make the SwiftVets stop)
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To: doug from upland

Good for you! After thinking about it, I am going to pass along to management that I had a customer complaint about the Heinz today.


47 posted on 08/25/2004 7:55:10 PM PDT by LisaMalia (In Memory of Sgt. James W."Billy" Lunsford..KIA 11-29-69 Binh Dinh S. Vietnam)
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To: doug from upland

Thanks for posting this Doug.

I've been in tears twice today (and I don't cry easily).

First, was when a Vietnam Vet called into Rush's show today and talked with Roger Hedgecock. The Vet spoke about his return to U.S. soil in San Francisco, how he stood out like a sore thumb with his short hair amongst all the hippies.

To shortly paraphrase, he was threatened outside a restroom by JFK wannabes to beat the living crap out of him and take all of his money. He stayed in that restroom for two hours, afraid for his life and wondering what the h*ll happened to America.

The emotion in his voice was so telling about the horrible treatment he received for years, and how it wrecked his life, because of people like J F'n K.

The second time I've come to tears today is reading your article.

I was a grade schooler during the Vietnam War, but had a keen sense of what was going on even then, thanks to my mom. (I learned at 10 that Walter Cronkite was a lying POS creep from her mouth, much to her chagrin - for the profanity - I'd never heard my mom swear before!)

I've always wondered what happened to the brave soul whose name was on my POW/MIA bracelet. I lost it at a swimming pool in 1972.

If I ever have the opportunity to get to the Vietnam Veterans Memorial, the first name I'll look for is Lt. Clive Jeffs.

All these years, and I've never forgotten him and service.

Suzie





48 posted on 08/25/2004 8:26:30 PM PDT by mplsconservative
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To: doug from upland

I'm planning on making a FULL Turkey dinner again, like I
did for the 2000 election night. Momma didn't understand why I did it but she sure didn't complain.


49 posted on 08/25/2004 8:31:37 PM PDT by BigDaddyTX
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To: mplsconservative

I heard the call from that vet today. You really could feel what he had been through. It was people like John Kerry who were responsible. I've been to the Wall. It is a moving experience.


50 posted on 08/25/2004 8:43:08 PM PDT by doug from upland (John Kerry cried and asked TaRAYaz to make the SwiftVets stop)
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