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Do You Have Any Pets That Have Made An Impact On You Personally? (Kerry Answers Questionnaire)
Humane USA ^ | 2004 | John Kerry

Posted on 08/25/2004 3:01:54 PM PDT by Shermy

Do you have any pets that have made an impact on you personally?

I have always had pets in my life and there are a few that I remember very fondly.

When I was serving on a swiftboat in Vietnam, my crewmates and I had a dog we called VC. We all took care of him, and he stayed with us and loved riding on the swiftboat deck. I think he provided all of us with a link to home and a few moments of peace and tanquility during a dangerous time. On day as our swiftboat was heading up a river, a mine exploded hard under our boat. After picking ourselves up, we discovered VC was MIA. Several minutes of frantic search followed after which we thought we lost him. We were relieved when another boat called asking if we were missing a dog. I turns out VC was catapulted from the deck of our boat and landed confused, but unhurt, on the deck of another boat in our patrol.

I also fondly remember a parakeet in college, Dodi Faustus. Dodi was a smart bird who learned a few words of French and Italian, but not smart enough to avoid having to be rescued from a tree once. My daughters and I had a Golden Retriever named Winston. Today, Teresa and I have a German Sheperd named Cym and a yellow parakeet.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: fabrication; kerry; kerrylies; licoricethehamster; vcdog; vcthedog
From Humane USA, the verbatim question and answer of John F. Kerry discussed in part earlier today by some.

For your consideration and comments.

A few from me:

1. VC the Flying Dog is a variation of Kerry's "mine" story. Question for physicists: What are the chances that the dog was catapulted from the deck of one boat to another? How could a mine explosion that caused such a catapult not have destroyed Kerry's aluminum-hulled boat...or any boat or ship?

2. Why didn't Kerry relate the "Rescuing Licorice the Hamster" story given this opportunity?

1 posted on 08/25/2004 3:01:56 PM PDT by Shermy
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Ping.


2 posted on 08/25/2004 3:03:23 PM PDT by Shermy (Yet another Kerry nanonuance)
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To: Shermy

The "flying dog" story was debunked here a few months ago by one of our glorious vets who was an artillery guy.


3 posted on 08/25/2004 3:04:12 PM PDT by annyokie (Now with 20% More Infidel!)
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To: Shermy
I would think that naming a dog "VC" would make him a good candidate for INHUMANE treatment from most real soldiers. So why would you tout this to an orginazation named "Humane USA"?

And you're right about the physics question. This whole story runs pretty high on the BS Smell-O-Meter.

4 posted on 08/25/2004 3:05:47 PM PDT by craig_eddy
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To: Shermy

5 posted on 08/25/2004 3:06:46 PM PDT by gopwinsin04 (i)
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To: Shermy

Howz about poor little Licorice?


6 posted on 08/25/2004 3:06:51 PM PDT by HighWheeler ("The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men." Plato)
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To: Shermy

It takes him all of two sentences to mention Vietnam. And the media complains about the SVFT bringing up Vietnam?


7 posted on 08/25/2004 3:07:24 PM PDT by NYCVirago
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To: Shermy

The physics would be fairly easy. How far was the other boat, and what acceleration would it take in 3 feet of accel window to get there? If the accel is greater than about 3g's, the dog would not be in good shape at all and probably have at least broken legs.


8 posted on 08/25/2004 3:09:19 PM PDT by HighWheeler ("The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men." Plato)
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To: craig_eddy

I've known Vietnam vets who, 20 years after the war, wouldn't serve Vietnamise or even many Southeast Asian raced customers where I worked once. I highly doubt that any Vietnam soldier or sailor would name their dog VC.

There is a rumor that Charlie Waters, the former All-Pro defensive back for the Dallas Cowboys (and pro and College coach) was so disgusted with contract negotiations he had to endure with Gil Brandt, then Player personnel director for the Cowboys, he named his pet snake, Gil. I want to meet Charlie, have him sign my book he and Cliff Harris wrote, and ask hima about that.


9 posted on 08/25/2004 3:09:30 PM PDT by 1L
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To: Shermy
This could be Kerry's dog. It flip-flops, too.
10 posted on 08/25/2004 3:09:46 PM PDT by atomicpossum (If there are two Americas, John Edwards isn't qualified to lead either of them.©)
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To: annyokie
The "flying dog" story was debunked here a few months ago by one of our glorious vets who was an artillery guy.

I do realize the story is BS on its face. I didn't know it came up before.

Perhaps now it seems less than innocuously comical with the present questioning of Kerry's "mine" story and the awarding of his third purple heart. That is, did Kerry attribute the earlier rice bin grenade wound to a fictional mine incident because the former circumstance would not qualify for a purple heart and his ticket home?

Kerry writes in the March 13 situation report that his boat hit a mine, like another did moments before.

11 posted on 08/25/2004 3:10:21 PM PDT by Shermy (Yet another Kerry nanonuance)
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To: gopwinsin04

That Lobby Poster for "Saving Private Hamster" can never be posted too often. It is hilarious.


12 posted on 08/25/2004 3:11:05 PM PDT by HighWheeler ("Would I turn on the gas if my pal Mugsy were in there?" "Ehhh, ye might rabbit, ye might." ~ Bugs)
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To: craig_eddy
"This whole story runs pretty high on the BS Smell-O-Meter."

This whole campaign runs pretty high on the BS Smell-O-Meter.

13 posted on 08/25/2004 3:11:08 PM PDT by davisfh
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To: craig_eddy

wouldnt that be like naming a dog 'nazi' during world war II?


14 posted on 08/25/2004 3:11:31 PM PDT by KOZ. (i'm so bad i should be in detention)
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To: Shermy

you know its NOT TRUE because Kerry told all of us that soldiers in Vietnam killed animals for fun. How com he now says the soldiers gave the dog back, instead of killing it?


15 posted on 08/25/2004 3:14:05 PM PDT by FesterUSMC
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To: Shermy
VC?

16 posted on 08/25/2004 3:16:50 PM PDT by deport ( "fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again.")
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To: Shermy

Well, pets can have a substantial impact on ones life.

Heck, I have a male Doberman and the first time I saw him resting on my porch on a hot summer day, it reminded me of the first time I had sex. It scared me to death and I was all alone at the time...those memories are seared..seared into my memory!


17 posted on 08/25/2004 3:20:21 PM PDT by Gator113
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To: HighWheeler

My uncle served in the German navy during WWII. In one of his letters that we found, he mentions how, when one of their boats hit a mine, the men looked like dwarfs because the impact shoved their lower leg bones up into their thighs. Their shoes were right up against their kneecaps.

Maybe "VC" ended up looking like a dachshund.


18 posted on 08/25/2004 3:31:44 PM PDT by Oatka
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To: Shermy
Unbelievable!
19 posted on 08/25/2004 3:34:16 PM PDT by BJungNan (Stop Spam - Do NOT buy from junk email.)
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To: Shermy
Do you have any pets that have made an impact on you personally?

I don't know what difference that should make in a presidential election, but it brings to mind my own experience.

In the 60's I had a pet rock. My girlfrind got mad at me and hit me in the head with it. You might say it made an impact.

20 posted on 08/25/2004 3:34:16 PM PDT by PinnedAndRecessed (O.K! I made the "about" page. So read it, already!)
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To: Shermy

Great, Kerry is caught in a new dilemma of his own making:

1) If it's even POSSIBLE that this story is true (and it sure sounds like more Kerry b.s.), then it surely proves that the Swift Boats operated close together (as we all know these boats did operate, from all the photos we have seen plus the testimony of the Swiftees), and that the Kerry camp has been lying about that to claim that only the crewmembers on his boat could know anything about Kerry's behavior. Unless the other boat was within 10-40 yards of Kerry's boat the chances of ANY object being launched in the air and coming down on the deck of another boat at random become vanishingly small (just do the geometry), not to mention the chances of a dog surviving such a projectile plunge also become very small.

2) In the far more likely case that Kerry the fantasist has concocted yet another Vietnam tale for the public, it should be another blow against his vanishing credibility.

We all need to urge all our favorite writers/columnists to track this one down to the end - it seems like a trivial story, but it will be so revealing of Kerry's m.o. if/when it's completely debunked.


21 posted on 08/25/2004 3:35:17 PM PDT by Enchante
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To: deport
on the other dog thread

Kerry's Flying Dog

that picture looks photoshopped

Unless there were two suns that day, the shadows from the hairy object growing from John Kerry's crotch look wrong.

22 posted on 08/25/2004 3:35:44 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy ("Despise not the jester. Often he is the only one speaking the truth")
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To: atomicpossum

I haven't the seen the Dogcow for years. Apple should bring it back.


23 posted on 08/25/2004 4:01:17 PM PDT by Mitchell ("Moof!")
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To: Shermy

I just went back through Unfit and the Michael Kranish biography and the only mentions of a mine exploding under Kerry's boat-was the Rassmann incident.
The one where Del Sandusky,told the Washington Post on Sunday, that he doesn't think it was a mine after all, probably a rocket or RPG exploding close by Kerry's boat.
Too bad the WP reporter wasn't up to speed on crazy John's web of lies.
He could have asked Del about the flying pooch.
Kerry's boat was 75 feet away from the rest of the swiftboats when the mine, RPG, rocket or Kerry's mind exploded .
Too bad Kerry didn't keep VC- he could have made a fortune traveling with his amazing flying pooch.
Maybe the little guy also had a special CIA hat which enabled him to time travel like Kerry.


24 posted on 08/25/2004 4:03:49 PM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue ( When the going gets tough-John Kerry gets going-far away)
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To: Shermy
Kerry's dog story sounds like it's right out of Apocalypse Now.  It's in the original movie and Redux. Another striking similarity, while it's logical to have occurred in real life, is where Chief Phillips says: :"Sanpan off the port bow -- sanpan off the port bow." The chief said: paraphrasing: "We have to check it out. They've been running supplies up the river". They proceeded to lose their cool and shot up the boat and innocents then found a puppy in a basket.

Later in the movie after another moment of mass confusion and return fire Lance (surfer guy) calls out: "Where's the dog?! Where's the dog?!"

25 posted on 08/25/2004 4:15:47 PM PDT by Zon
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Ping!


26 posted on 08/25/2004 4:18:38 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: Shermy; PhiKapMom

Good Lord! He can't even answer a question about pets without hawking his Vietnam persona. And just think! He also rescued a hamster! What a hero! Can't the guy just say, "Yeah, I once owned a cute dog named Spot who was my constant companion and I miss him very much." No. He can't. He is not a normal person. By the way, did anybody see Barney giving his opinion of the press yesterday? Best timed crap in the history of politics! :-)


27 posted on 08/25/2004 4:34:22 PM PDT by MrChips (ARD)
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To: Shermy
My daughters and I had a Golden Retriever named Winston. Today, Teresa and I have a German Sheperd named Cym and a yellow parakeet.

Is there any emotion in those statements? Warmth? Love? It's sad!

28 posted on 08/25/2004 4:38:41 PM PDT by MrChips (ARD)
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To: Shermy
My daughters and I had a Golden Retriever named Winston. Today, Teresa and I have a German Sheperd named Cym and a yellow parakeet.

Is there any emotion in those statements? Warmth? Love? It's sad!

29 posted on 08/25/2004 4:38:50 PM PDT by MrChips (ARD)
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To: Shermy

sKerry doesn't HAVE a personality. Money, yes. Personality, nuh uh. Not even close.


30 posted on 08/25/2004 5:47:42 PM PDT by Rightfootforward
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To: doodles2

ping?


31 posted on 08/25/2004 6:38:55 PM PDT by Baynative (Terrorists have Mosques to hide in and keep shooting. Liberals have court rooms.)
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To: HighWheeler

This is a case for the Mythbusters on the Discovery Channel!!!!!!!! Hey Jamie and Adam, do you lurk here? How about this for a segment?


32 posted on 08/25/2004 6:41:50 PM PDT by proudofthesouth
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To: HighWheeler
How far was the other boat,...

Well, I can get you started. We know for a fact that all swift boats are at least 50 yards apart at all times. The NY Slimes and the rest of the MSM declared this as fact (so it must be true) when explaining to us peasants why the other swift boat captains and crews could not have observed Captain Courageous sKerry.

33 posted on 08/25/2004 7:35:37 PM PDT by Martin Tell (I will not be terrified or Kerrified.)
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To: Oatka

So that's where they got the idea for Cotton Hill, Hank's dad.


34 posted on 08/25/2004 7:46:47 PM PDT by secret garden (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Shermy
Are we sure this is not an urban myth? I mean it's a given the guy makes stuff up, but this sounds like a Slick Willie story? I remember all the churches I saw burned when I was growing up in Arkansas...
35 posted on 08/25/2004 7:52:38 PM PDT by handy (Forgive me this day, my daily typos...)
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To: Shermy; Registered
I thought this was a joke when I first heard it. Could this be a sequel to Hot Shots Part Deux? :)


36 posted on 08/25/2004 9:11:18 PM PDT by TxBec (Tag! You're it!)
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