Posted on 08/25/2004 4:33:17 PM PDT by 4.1O dana super trac pak
MEXICO CITY - Mexican Foreign Relations Secretary Luis Ernesto Derbez said Tuesday his government will consider helping migrants sue U.S. officials for improper use of so-called "pepper ball" non-lethal projectiles.
In an appearance before Mexico's Congress, legislators urged Derbez to demand an end to the use of the pepper-filled plastic projectiles by U.S. Border Patrol agents. The pellets have sparked outrage in Mexico.
Derbez said U.S. agents did not appear to be using the air filled balls to stop fleeing migrants - as feared - but only in confrontational situations. He refused to demand the weapon be withdrawn, but said Mexico is seeking consultation on the issue with U.S. officials.
Derbez said the Mexican government was ready to help migrants sue if they suffer from the improper use of the arms. In the past, Mexico has helped hire lawyers and investigators for such cases.
"What the Mexican government is not going to allow [is] attacks on its citizens without immediately responding with a legal action on our part," Derbez said.
The Mexican government has faced severe criticism from local media and rights groups who say "balas de goma" - literally, rubber bullets - are being used against undocumented immigrants.
In fact, the round plastic projectiles are fired with compressed gas and are basically paintball pellets filled with pepper powder, an irratant intended to immobilize.
The powder irritates the eyes and nose for about 10 seconds to 15 seconds, and can be treated by flushing the irratated areas with water. The impact of the ball itself may also cause bruising, and most paintball players wear helmets and face masks to prevent a direct hit to the head or eyes.
The U.S. Border Patrol says it fired the pepper-balls in 81 instances during 2002-2003, and reported no deaths or severe injuries.
Rubber bullets are rubber-coated steel pellets usually fired with gunpowder, and can be lethal if fired from a short distance or if they hit soft body tissue.
The Border Patrol does not use rubber bullets as part of its normal equipment.
Lock and load one round of ball ammunition.
go back to the ol' black powder.
No doubt this same Mexican government will sue their own military for using live ammo to shoot at our Border Patrol.
Simple fix....use real damn bullets!
Let's use 12 gauge pumps instead ... 00 buck.
This is absurd. Put me on the jury.
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Sounds like something they'd sprinkle on their burritos!
Dead people can't sue... I'd say it's about time to switch ammo.
Then they should keep their citizens from trying to sneak into our country. Wimps to the south. Wimps on the left. Darnit!
Well, there's always real bullets.
Migrants? Hell if they are in our country illegally we can do with them what we want!
I say cut them up and use them for donor organs.
So they don't have enough money to make a better life for their citizens in Mexico, but they are going to waste it on an idiotic lawsuit like this? No wonder people are fleeing that country.
I thought they liked hot pepper. Maybe we ought to shoot 'em with soy sauce.
No problem, .50 caliber will do just fine.
They probably would'nt like a 50 ft. wide strip of landmines along the border either.
An angry thread here.
<< Mexico may sue U.S. over pepper-ball projectiles >>
Pepper ball projectiles?
What in hell went wrong with 50-cal Magnums?
I reckon its about time we Americans sued [Or worse] the [American] feral gummint over Mexicans!
Dear Santa,
I promise to be very good this year...
Fine, we will stop using pepper. We will start using .50 cal. machine gun bullets and electric fences and land mines.
hell NO this 24MM is better than 50cal! 50 cal .50" 25MM .984" ! DOH!
25MM even
ROCK SALT!
Arizona should threaten to give Mexico back its carjackers and slave smugglers. Oh, and we'll throw in those people who get into accidents without auto insurance.
Ahhhh... to see them sue and win forcing us to use lead instead of pepper. Every one wins.
The Mexican government is just like a pesky fly. It's not really good for anything, plus it is always finding new ways to annoy the United States.
Welcome to Free Republic! No relation to Uncle Fester I presume? :O)
nickname, kinda look like him :)
Damn! Pull the trigger and hang on!
I don't think you want to limp-wrist this baby.
Hell, I think the Mexican border would be the perfect place to train snipers. Plenty of moving targets!
Absolutly!
They should go right back to LEAD FILLED LEAD PROJECTILES right away.
Cool! We'll give them some of that too!
Sure --- the Mexican government probably supplied the weapons that were used to kill some of our border patrol agents.
The elites in that government like Derbez are terrified that we could control immigration a little bit --- because those peasants they're trying to rid their country of would then turn around and look at why their country is so wealthy but they are being denied everything.
If the Mexicans were kept inside Mexico, most likely the Mexican army will start killing them --- the elites mean to have this ethnic cleansing and get rid of the Indians and Mestisos, they'd prefer to do it the easy way and get them all over to the USA but I think plan B would be to start killing them.
Two words: Live Ammo.
Claymores.
Relax. It's just one more form of foreign aid. And, it goes directly to the families. Just like remittances!
"Bush's Nephew in Mexico, Calls Arming Of Border Guards 'Reprehensible'": http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1196627/posts
Good idea. It was George P. Bush (Jeb's son) who was bitching about the pepper filled projectiles. Looks like he gave these idiots the idea to sue America. Maybe George P. should run for office in Mexico.
Then keep your sorry citizens on YOUR side of the border.
'Nuff said!!
It doesn't matter if someone is illegal in a country. Everyone is entitled for respect and i don't know why are you saying 'we can do with them what we want', if slavery days are over.!!!!
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