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Soros Condeming Iraq War while profiting off of it
Tony Snow On OReilly show | 8/25/04 | Ballplayer

Posted on 08/25/2004 5:25:01 PM PDT by ballplayer

Tont Snow said Soros was speculating on the dollar during the war to make a buck while talking against the war


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: profiteering; soros; speculation; war

1 posted on 08/25/2004 5:25:01 PM PDT by ballplayer
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To: ballplayer
IMO Soros is manipulating the dollar/market to make a profit on it.
2 posted on 08/25/2004 5:26:37 PM PDT by hoosiermama (prayers for all)
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To: hoosiermama

The Best thing O'Reilly did was to give advice to some Dem strategist: Kerry should hold a news conference and answer all the questions.


3 posted on 08/25/2004 5:28:33 PM PDT by tirednvirginia ((But things are looking up!))
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To: ballplayer

We can all laugh, but Soros made 750 million dollars in compensation for running his hedge fund.


4 posted on 08/25/2004 5:31:59 PM PDT by shrinkermd
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To: ballplayer
Tony Snow said something that is common knowledge.

The man makes his billions cashing in on failing economies. He's the friend of failure.

5 posted on 08/25/2004 5:36:20 PM PDT by perfect stranger
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To: ballplayer
Tont Snow

Do you mean Tonto? L.R's pal??????

6 posted on 08/25/2004 5:36:21 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (After 30+ years dealing with idiots, I still haven't earned the right to just shoot them.....)
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To: hoosiermama

Looks like buying Euro's in NOV 03 and buying dollars back in Feb 04 would of made about 3-4 cents on the dollar.

http://www.x-rates.com/

Both Warren Buffett and George Soros were implicated by Brit as being involved..

I saw that and looked up the above website for info..


7 posted on 08/25/2004 5:36:36 PM PDT by revtown
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To: revtown

I'd like to know what he sold the week before 9-11...Do you know any sources?


8 posted on 08/25/2004 5:43:15 PM PDT by hoosiermama (prayers for all)
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To: ballplayer

yeah, it was great!

I think we should have a lot of 527 ads outting Kerry's puppeteer Soros.


9 posted on 08/25/2004 5:45:37 PM PDT by faithincowboys
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To: ballplayer
Both Soros and Buffett are shorting the dollar, to the tune of billions.

Yep, that's true patriotism, betting on the economic collapse of the dollar and the U.S.

Oh, that's right, they're liberals. The economy needs to fail in order for them to get back in power.

What was I thinking? </sarcasm
10 posted on 08/25/2004 5:46:14 PM PDT by NavySEAL F-16 (Proud to be a Reagan Republican)
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To: ballplayer
What I would like to know is how much Soros made in the aftermath of 911. He defiantly has contact though his NGO's in the Balkans with groups that associate with Al Qaeda.
11 posted on 08/25/2004 5:47:26 PM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP (Make all taxes truly voluntary)
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To: hoosiermama

Nope, I don't have any sources. Sounds like Tony Snow does. I messed up and mentioned Brit in my 1st post.

I'm thinking money xfers are tracked by banks and the IRS.
It would seem the FBI / CIA should look into 9/11 profiteering.

BTW: Wasn't there alot of trading in United and American airlines before 9/11.


12 posted on 08/25/2004 5:48:57 PM PDT by revtown
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To: NavySEAL F-16

Even my broker says Soros is manipulating the market in an attempt to defeat Bush.


13 posted on 08/25/2004 5:49:25 PM PDT by hoosiermama (prayers for all)
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To: Hot Tabasco
That was the first thing I thought first....Indian in frost season.


14 posted on 08/25/2004 5:50:31 PM PDT by ErnBatavia ("Dork"; a 60's term for a 60's kinda guy: JFK)
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To: hoosiermama

To be perfectly honest with you, I seem to remember a day during the Klintoon administration where the NYSE plummeted 500 points or so, but then a late rally brought it back up to almost even. I would love to be able to investigate MR Soros activities that day, I would bet he propped it up so Klintoon would not look bad.


15 posted on 08/25/2004 5:52:56 PM PDT by DaiHuy (God Bless America and God Damn John Kerry)
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To: All
We may not like him, but he is a fascinating personality apart from his wealth. He is both a tutored and untutored philosopher. He took extensive training at the London School of Economics and studied with Karl Popper.

Popper was the fellow said neither scientific socialism or scientific psychoanalysis were "scientific" because they did not generate disprovable hypotheses.

It would be a fascinating round table to get him, and Economics Nobel Laureate, Daniel Kahneman (a psychologist), and perhaps several others on a round table discussion about economic man, short and long term economic cycles and the basic psychology of investing.

I am sure he would find me, my views as somewhat akin to that of a philosophical Neanderthal but just to learn now before it is too late what these individuals think and how they arrive at would be well worth the effort.

A C-Span effort would be recorded and studied for years in discerning, multidisciplinary fashion.

16 posted on 08/25/2004 5:55:30 PM PDT by shrinkermd
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To: NavySEAL F-16

If he's shorting the dollar, does he have enough margin to short enough of it to force the price down and start a general dumping by institutions and governments?

Of course, that would be market manipulation... and quite possibly an argument could be made for treason...


18 posted on 08/25/2004 6:02:04 PM PDT by coconutt2000
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To: NavySEAL F-16
Both Soros and Buffett are shorting the dollar, to the tune of billions.

I have heard the same thing but so far, can find no proof to back it up. If you, or any of my fellow freepers can point me to a credible source, I would be most grateful.

19 posted on 08/25/2004 6:02:43 PM PDT by Sir_Humphrey
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To: Sir_Humphrey

Don't you think if someone found the source, they'd know enough to keep quiet about it, lest he be found dead some morning of a 'heart attack'?


20 posted on 08/25/2004 6:06:27 PM PDT by combat_boots (Dug in and not budging an inch)
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To: ballplayer

George Soros: Why I Gave
Washington Post ^ | 12/05/03 | George Soros

...and a number of other wealthy Americans are contributing millions of dollars to grass-roots organizations engaged in the 2004 presidential election. We are deeply concerned with the direction in which the Bush administration is taking the United States and the world.
If Americans reject the president's policies at the polls, we can write off the Bush Doctrine as a temporary aberration and resume our rightful place in the world. If we endorse those policies, we shall have to live with the hostility of the world and endure a vicious cycle of escalating violence.
In this effort, I have committed $10 million to America Coming Together, a grass-roots get-out-the-vote operation, and $2.5 million to the MoveOn.org Voter Fund, a popular Internet advocacy group that is airing advertisements to highlight the administration's misdeeds. This is a pittance in comparison with money raised and spent by conservative groups.

Excerpted - click for full article ^
Source: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A37126-2003Dec4.html


21 posted on 08/25/2004 6:13:17 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: coconutt2000

That's exactly what he did in Malaysia and tried to do in Great Britain.


22 posted on 08/25/2004 6:13:48 PM PDT by NavySEAL F-16 (Proud to be a Reagan Republican)
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To: ballplayer

Getting Our ACT Together
By Kathryn Schulz, Grist Magazine
August 14, 2003

With a substantial chunk of money but a minimum of fanfare, environmentalists, labor leaders, feminist organizations, and other progressive groups convened last week to launch Americans Coming Together, a new PAC dedicated to defeating President Bush in 2004. The name of the alliance is terrible going on tawdry, but the acronym is apt: If we want ACT's dream to become reality, then precisely what we must do is act – or, more bluntly, get our acts together.

It goes without saying that any environmentalist worth the name should support the ouster of Bush, whose record with respect to Planet Earth hovers somewhere between that of James Watt and the Martians in "War of the Worlds." ACT plans to spend $75 million (a bundle, but bear in mind that Bush alone will likely raise more than twice that) to bankroll media blitzes, register voters, and sponsor get-out-the-vote drives in key states.

It has already secured backing (and, in some cases, bucks) from, among others, gazillionaire George Soros, Carl Pope of the Sierra Club, Andrew Stern of the Service Employees International Union, and Ellen Malcolm of EMILY's List, the grassroots organization dedicated to mobilizing female voters and getting pro-choice women elected to office. All told, it's not a bad start; as the New York Times reported on Friday, political commentators are calling the formation of ACT one sign of the earliest, most intense, and most coordinated political organizing effort in decades. ...


23 posted on 08/25/2004 6:15:30 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: Hot Tabasco
Tonto Snow and friends.


24 posted on 08/25/2004 6:17:14 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: ballplayer

By George: The Democratic party is now brought to you by super-investors
National Review | 11/10/03 | Byron York
http://beta.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1019439/posts

Last June, the billionaire investor George Soros announced that he was cutting back the work his foundation, the Open Society Institute, did in Russia so that he could focus his attention on the United States. The change was needed, Soros told reporters in Moscow, because the political scene in America had become "quite dangerous." In the Bush administration, Soros explained, "the executive branch has come under the influence of a group of ideologues who have forgotten the first principle of an open society: that they don't have a monopoly on truth."

Soros, a naturalized U.S. citizen born in Hungary, said President Bush had "abused" the September 11 terrorist attacks as a pretext to expand his own power and to run roughshod over other nations. Soros has included these concerns in a book, The Bubble of American Supremacy, due out next January, which will attack the so-called arrogance of the president's policies.

But Soros plans to do much more than write. Recently, he pledged $10 million to a new Democratic group devoted to defeating Bush in 2004. Soros's gift will be the largest single political donation from an individual in history, surpassing the $7 million check that film producer Haim Saban gave the Democratic party in 2002. "I've come to the conclusion that one can do a lot more about the issues I care about by changing the government than by pushing the issues," Soros told Fortune magazine recently.

It's not clear whether Soros can, in fact, change the government, but his $10 million pledge has instantly made him one of the most important men in the Democratic party. His money is going to a new group called America Coming Together (ACT), one of several organizations that have sprung up in the aftermath of the McCain-Feingold campaign-finance law. The law made it illegal for contributors like Soros to give $10 million to the Democratic party, so the founders of America Coming Together created what is, in effect, a substitute party, which can still legally accept such large contributions. Such groups are often referred to as 527's, after the section of the tax code that allows them to operate.

ACT was put together by the main interest groups that make up the Democratic constituency. It was founded by Ellen Malcolm, who is the president of Emily's List; Steve Rosenthal, the former political director of the AFL-CIO; Andrew Stern, head of the Service Employees International Union; Carl Pope, executive director of the Sierra Club; and Cecile Richards, head of America Votes, a group similar to ACT that is made up of representatives of environmental, civil-rights, pro-abortion, and labor groups. Together, they represent pretty much everyone in the Democratic party.

Funded by Soros and others, ACT will assume some of the tasks that the party performed before reform. While it will not run ad campaigns or other media efforts, ACT will concentrate its resources on intensive get-out-the-vote efforts, now often referred to as "voter contact." When ACT announced its formation in August, its officials said it would focus on 17 states: Arizona, Arkansas, Florida, Iowa, Maine, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Mexico, Ohio, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Washington, West Virginia, and Wisconsin. Each state was tightly contested in the 2000 election and promises to be close again next year.

One other thing is notable about Americans Coming Together: There is no organization comparable to it on the right. A recent study by the non-partisan Center for Public Integrity found that so-called 527 groups actually got started before campaign-finance reform and played a significant role in the 2002 elections, the last before McCain-Feingold took effect. The center found that, in the 2002 cycle, Democratic-affiliated 527's spent $185 million in soft money -- more than twice the $82 million spent by Republican-affiliated groups.

The center found that all of the top five soft-money spenders during its study period, which began in August 2000 and ended this summer, were affiliated with the Democratic party. First was the American Federation of State, County, and Municipal Employees, which spent $37,990,064. Others included Emily's List and the Sierra Club. In fact, nine of the top ten organizations are Democratic, the only exception being the Bush-Cheney 2000 committee, which spent $13,820,764 during that election. For the top 527 groups, the ratio of Democratic to Republican spending during the study period was a bit more than 12 to 1. .....


25 posted on 08/25/2004 6:19:42 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: piasa

the article says...

I and a number of other wealthy Americans are contributing millions....

this is a silly question, but is soros an american citizen?


26 posted on 08/25/2004 6:21:15 PM PDT by KOZ. (i'm so bad i should be in detention)
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To: Larry Lucido

Kemosabe' = honkey


27 posted on 08/25/2004 6:37:55 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (After 30+ years dealing with idiots, I still haven't earned the right to just shoot them.....)
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To: combat_boots
Don't you think if someone found the source, they'd know enough to keep quiet about it, lest he be found dead some morning of a 'heart attack'?

In other words it can't be proved.

28 posted on 08/26/2004 5:07:24 AM PDT by Sir_Humphrey
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