Skip to comments.Edwards Sued Red Cross Three Times - Vanity
Posted on 08/25/2004 7:04:36 PM PDT by eartotheground
I know this sounds like a joke but I am not kidding. Edwards sued the American National Red Cross three times in the 90's apparently and obtained a confidential settlement in each case. Anybody have any more info?
This will test the loyalties of many misguided Freepers who believing rumors and wives tales, have an intense dislike for the Red Cross.
Rumors and old wives tales? Do you remember what happened after 9/11? The Bloody X solicited donations for the victims of 9/11, but then kept the money for other things.
Of course, Edwards will chase an ambulance anywhere, anytime. h
I think that was United Way who fumbled the money and gave a bunch to totally bogus groups, etc.
team bush hasn't even started on this silly little man yet, but his time is coming.
From what I understand, due to Edwards work, several of these hospitals were driven out of business leaving people without care.
"Rumors and old wives tales? Do you remember what happened after 9/11? The Bloody X solicited donations for the victims of 9/11, but then kept the money for other things."
Exactly... and then they just didn't "get it" and continued to refuse to allocate funds where the intent of the donor had been clearly identified.
The dislike for the Red Cross was the fraudulent use of funds collected after 9/11, PLUS the fact that they were handung money to the Taliban while we were fighting in Afghanistan. They were openly helping our enemies with our donations.
Fairy tales? Do your research.
If 9/11 was the only high jinks for that organization over the many years it might be excusable, as blatant as that was.
Our family history with it started in previous wars. "A man with an experience is not at the mercy of a man with a bias". Too much mismanagment experience for too little result.
The suits were for HIV transmission by blood prior to HIV testing. Red Cross settled these suits because; 1) it would cost too much to defend, 2) jury trials are crap shoots where you can lose big, 3) these suits would be reported widely tarnishing the image of the Red Cross, 4) the publicizing of these suits would sully the reputation of E Dole (this is only speculation, numbers 1, 2 and 3 are facts).
Edwards sued the Red Cross? I knew there had to be something I liked about him.
The nickname "The Bloody X" dates back to WWII. This sort of @#%#^$ goes way back. I thought the most effective argument against "The Red Cross is as pure as the driven snow" would be an incontrovertible example that was recent and still bitter in our memories.
Your report is consistent with what I've heard for years about the Red Cross and the Salvation Army. (I love the Salvation Army!)
Nice retort. Now, would you care to respond with something resembling factual debate to counter this personal story, or will the BS personal attack be your only response?
As I recall it was the same here during the wildfires last year in San Diego. The Red Cross took money and then didn't pay it back out and every firefighter said that the Red Cross charged through the nose for water or anything else that was needed while the Salvation Army exhausted themselves doing every thing they could for free.
You think that's a lie?
Give me one reason that I would lie about something like that. Do you think you are important enough to me to cause me to sit down and write a lie?
No, every single word of that is true. Every word.
I can't believe you called me a liar. You've got a lot of nerve.
You must work for the Red Cross.
I am thrilled to find out that you donated to the Salvation Army.
They were so great with us after the flood. I will love them forever!
Perhaps lie was too strong an admonition.
You are more like John Kerry and his Christmas in Cambodia. Like the Christmas in Cambodia seared into his mind that never happened, the Red Cross consession selling $2.00 cokes is also fantasy.
We used to donate blood until the Red Cross put in the Mad Cow provision for people who'd spent a certain amount of time in Europe during the specified time period. We told the RC the next time they called to ask us to donate that we could no longer do so per the new provision. We continued to receive calls from them to donate for months afterwards. We kept telling them we could no longer do it. One person with the RC we spoke to suggested we donate anyway, that the Mad Cow rule was no big deal. We gave her a piece of our mind and we haven't heard back from the Red Cross since.
I know how to solve this. Texas, simply provide a link to a news article about this and Bert will apolgize.
The rumor I heard was that the rule was designed to eliminate a large body of donors to create an artificial blood shortage. Anyone know if there's any truth to this?
And while we're at it, anyone know another way to donate blood?
How do you know that? Were you there when it happened?
Every word is true. How dare you accuse someone you don't know of lying?
How dare you compare me to Kerry.
Why are you doing this?
A news article? This was my own personal experience with the Red Cross.
Why are you being such a jerk to Texasflower?
My husband suggested a contribtion to the ARC for Hurricane Charley relief. I told him it was a lovely thought, but make the check payable to the Salvation Army.
How would you know? Were you there during the flood? The Red Cross is known for not exactly being a "non-profit" organization. Sorry, Elizabeth.
John Kerry would have gone to prison if he had been in Cambodia when he said.
Oh. Well, I guess we just have to believe it happened although it would be nice if there were some small amount of evidence.
What sort of evidence do you want? That the flood occurred?
That I lost my home AND business in it?
Or that the RC charged us 2.00 for a coke?
I was a little too busy to read the papers that month and save any articles on the off chance an idiot would question me about it 8 years later.
Sorry you think I am a liar. That however is your problem.
Good deal! Your money will be put to much better use.
I am sympathetic for your disastrous loss.
I would like to learn a little more about the circumstances. "Totally under water"....... does that mean the water completely covered the roof?
Or does that mean the water flooded the yard and surrounded the house.
Does it mean that the rising flood entered the house and covered the floors?
How high did the water rise within the house?
Can't we all just get along here?
I was riding my bike around a trailer park after Hurricane Charlie to look at the damage.
I watched as this lady in a sedan marked with the Red Cross logo stopped her car in front of this house that had a tree laying on the roof. A family of about 4 or 5 people were standing out front resting, as it appeared they had been trying to clean-up some of the damage.
The RC lady walked over to this little girl of about 4 or 5 years old, spoke to her for a minute and then took her hand. She then escorted the girl back to her vehicle, where she took out a teddy bear and gave it to the little girl.
I have no feelings against the RC one way or another. I don't know enough about their past actions to form one. But I would ask that everyone keep in mind that as you read posts that rail against the RC organization, there are volunteers that want to do nothing more than help.
Please back off of Texasflower and stop being such a jerk. I mean it. STFU.
I lived near the San Jacinto river you jerk.
What did I tell you bert? That's right. I told you UNDERWATER.
I said, underwater and I meant underwater.
My house was completely submerged for three days. The roof was covered for three days.
Do you get it?
Why are you doing this and what the hell does this have to do with your orginal question about the Red Cross's 2.00 soft drinks?
In honor of the Republican Convention I'm taking leave of absence from this thread till next week.
The answer is simple. I can not let such a blatant misrepresentation of the truth about a valuable American organization stand unchallenged.
The truth is that the American Red Cross does not charge for disaster aid. The American Red Cross does not sell sandwiches or $2.00 cokes at disaster concession stands. The red Cross does not run concession stands at disasters.
The truth is that the Red Cross disaster vehicles, the ERV's have signs to the effect..... Everything is free, a gift of the American people.
All American Red Cross disaster relief and food to victims and various relief workers, including emergency medical units working in the area, is paid for with donations from an appreciative American public.
Apparently there are those who are not only not appreciative of relief but have chosen to slander their benefactor.
The Red Cross is a worthless organization. Every word I said is true.
I would really appreciate it if you would stop calling me a liar.
The disaster is managed by local chapters all across the country until a certain level of families involved is reached. At that point relief efforts becomes a national responsibility and the national American Red Cross resources are brought to bear.
Early on, within hours of the disaster Red Cross damage assessment teams begin to survey the disaster area to determine the extent and to develop a rough feeling for resources required for the relief effort. Disaster trained volunteers called up locally and nationally.
In a disaster involving many families a headquarters organization is established very close to the disaster area to manage the various different efforts. These efforts include establishing shelters, establishing and coordinating food preparation area, receiving the Emergency Response Vehicles coming in from around the country, dispatching them to areas where needed, finding each and every family and learning their needs. Finding and providing food and shelter, providing trained nurses to interview and take care of medical needs, lost prescriptions, glasses or other such medical needs. Managing the volunteers coming in from across the country involves a personnel officer. Local purchasing the materials required to support the effort requires trained purchasing and logistics volunteers. The press is keenly interested in what is happening and volunteers skilled in dealing with the various media begin the effort to tell the story of what is happening and to alert the affected families as to where they may seek food, shelter and relief. The headquarters will also contain a individuals who conduct a fund raising effort. The headquarters will not be closed until the disaster work is over.
After the initial hours of immediate relief, families are provided resources to assist in a comeback. Mass care teams establish centers within the disaster affected area to interview the people and provide relief in the form of vouchers that can be spent to provide food, clothing and other necessities.
The initial efforts to bring order to a chaotic scene are short lived. Some degree of order begins to emerge and lives can begin to take on the responsibility for the new but changed conditions. The various American Red Cross mass care teams remain in the area to insure that people have the necessities of life.
It should be noted that total destruction of one's living place can not be completely resolved. A disaster is a life changing event. It should also be noted again that everything provided in an American Red Cross disaster relief effort including food, drink, cleanup kits, prescriptions drugs, eye glasses, vouchers for clothing and personal needs, and other relief too numerous for mention are free, a gift of the American people.
These few paragraphs are an attempt to draw on imperfect knowledge to describe a very dedicated and complex organizational capability. Since no two disasters are the same, each response is different and the responding staff and volunteers are different. The response is however made in accordance with advance planning and training. The ease with which the American Red Cross reacts to catastrophic events is the result of long experience, highly trained and dedicated volunteers. The American public understands the need and always responds with disaster relief funding. They do not allow fellow Americans to go begging when all their personal resources are wiped out.
Bert. I demand you leave me alone.
My experience with the Red Cross is exactly as I told you and I am not willing to be part of your never ending harassment.