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BUSH CAMP SAYS OLYMPIC AD WILL STAY UP
ABC News ^ | 8/26/04 | Ann Compton

Posted on 08/26/2004 8:13:09 AM PDT by gopwinsin04

The Bush campaign insists that it is on very firm legal ground in their depiction of the olympics in their ad, reports ABC News Ann Compton.

When the olympics are over, the campaign will take the ad down, as scheduled.

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: ads; gwb2004; ioc; olympics
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Good! Tell the USOC that they can shove it in their piehole!
1 posted on 08/26/2004 8:13:10 AM PDT by gopwinsin04
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To: gopwinsin04

Of course he did. He's a man of convictions, standing tall.


2 posted on 08/26/2004 8:13:42 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: gopwinsin04
This just cracks me up. If the ad said "that sporting contest going on in Athens, Greece" would they stop complaining about it?

We need some crack Freepsearcher to find out who on the IOC is supporting Kerry...

3 posted on 08/26/2004 8:15:52 AM PDT by craig_eddy
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To: gopwinsin04

This election is turning into a "whinefest" by the left.


4 posted on 08/26/2004 8:16:57 AM PDT by randita
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To: sarasota

I read where the Officials of the Iraqi Olympic Team are furious with the media, alledging that they embellished the story about Iraqi atheletes having hatred for George Bush. It sounds like it was taken out of context. I can't believe ALL of their atheletes can have that opinion.

nick


6 posted on 08/26/2004 8:18:24 AM PDT by nikos1121
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To: craig_eddy

"We need some crack Freepsearcher to find out who on the IOC is supporting Kerry..."

EVERYONE on the IOC is supporting Kerry - Foreign Leaders - remember ?


7 posted on 08/26/2004 8:19:12 AM PDT by RS (Just because the SwiftVets are out to get him dosen't mean he's not guilty)
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To: gopwinsin04

HA!


8 posted on 08/26/2004 8:19:47 AM PDT by The_Victor
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To: randita

Who's next for a slapdown..lol!


9 posted on 08/26/2004 8:20:47 AM PDT by gopwinsin04
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To: gopwinsin04

Excellent!!!!


10 posted on 08/26/2004 8:20:51 AM PDT by Peach (The Clinton's pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: gopwinsin04

What exactly was the Olympics complaining about?


11 posted on 08/26/2004 8:24:49 AM PDT by Hatteras
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To: gopwinsin04

No, they need to shut their piehole and put this someplace else.


12 posted on 08/26/2004 8:26:32 AM PDT by secret garden (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: gopwinsin04

Great!

It's about time the current GOP leadership get a spine. And it seems to be stiffening going into the election cycle.


13 posted on 08/26/2004 8:29:16 AM PDT by zencat (Magnetic BUSH/CHENEY bumper stickers ---> www.gwbushmagnets.com)
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To: nikos1121

I'd love to read that story. All I've heard is the complaining from the Iraqi athletes.


14 posted on 08/26/2004 8:32:04 AM PDT by Aggie Mama
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To: gopwinsin04
What was the complaint?

This is such BS...ambush (no pun intended) marketing goes on all the time. Wendy's did it during the 2002 Winter Games with actors dressed in hockey jerseys and Wendys is not an official USOC or IOC marketing partner. I want to know who at the USOC or IOC is complaining. I actually know people at the USOC.
15 posted on 08/26/2004 8:33:11 AM PDT by Heff ("Liberty is not America's gift to the world, it's the Almighty's gift to humanity" GW Bush 4/12/04)
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To: nikos1121
I can't believe ALL of their atheletes can have that opinion.

NPR did an interview with one of the Iraqi soccer team members. He sounded very happy with post Uday life. I think you are right. I've only had one close encounter with press ethics and it related to some interviews with an ex girlfriend and her coworkers by a "journalist" for a story. By the time it went to print, the statements had been twisted by taking snippets out of context to the point of being unrecognizable. I learned from that incident to never trust a damn thing the MSM prints.

16 posted on 08/26/2004 8:33:42 AM PDT by RogueIsland
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To: RogueIsland

My bad. It was an Iraqi boxer who was going to box at the Olympics, who had been trained by a U.S. soldier serving there, IIRC.


17 posted on 08/26/2004 8:34:49 AM PDT by RogueIsland
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To: RogueIsland

My bad. It was an Iraqi boxer who was going to box at the Olympics, who had been trained by a U.S. soldier serving there, IIRC.


18 posted on 08/26/2004 8:35:18 AM PDT by RogueIsland
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To: gopwinsin04
Hmmm... So trademark protection is no longer a good thing to the GOP?

This thread cracks me up. Copyright infringement is apparently now a sign of having "stones."

19 posted on 08/26/2004 8:37:44 AM PDT by lugsoul (Until at last I threw down my enemy and smote his ruin on the mountainside.)
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To: lugsoul

Where in the ad do you see anthing that is copyrighted?


20 posted on 08/26/2004 8:41:42 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: Mr. Lucky

It is the entire basis of the story. The IOC and, within the US, the USOC own the rights to the use of the phrases "Olympic Games" and "Olympics" and "Olympiad" - which is why just about every four years you see stories about a crackdown on unauthorized merchandise and the use of the name to promote this business or that one. The entire basis for the request to pull the ad is that the campaign does not have authorization to use the name or depictions of the Games.


21 posted on 08/26/2004 8:45:16 AM PDT by lugsoul (Until at last I threw down my enemy and smote his ruin on the mountainside.)
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To: nikos1121

Well if it's media spin, let's have the Iraqi press interview these guys, on the record, video taped, and play it for us. Because the tide turned on these guys when we heard that and I don't think many Americans wanted them to win after that...and they didn't.


22 posted on 08/26/2004 8:46:03 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: lugsoul

You haven't seen the ads, have you.


23 posted on 08/26/2004 8:46:58 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: lugsoul

I guess the committee will just have to sign up a couple of trial lawyers and sue Bush over copyright--or accept payment for "privileges"?


24 posted on 08/26/2004 8:48:10 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: lugsoul

Have you seen the ad?

http://news.myway.com/top/article/id/423569|top|08-26-2004::08:46|reuters.html

"The ad has angered Olympic officials because they feel it hijacks the Olympic brand -- a registered trademark -- even though it does not display the Games logo"


25 posted on 08/26/2004 8:48:29 AM PDT by LisaAnne
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To: Mr. Lucky

Yes, I have.


26 posted on 08/26/2004 8:51:09 AM PDT by lugsoul (Until at last I threw down my enemy and smote his ruin on the mountainside.)
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To: LisaAnne
Didja miss this part?

The IOC said no official request had been made for the use of the reference to the Games. "We own the rights to the Olympic name and nobody asked us," Gerhard Heiberg, head of the International Olympic Committee's Marketing Commission had said on Wednesday.

27 posted on 08/26/2004 8:53:00 AM PDT by lugsoul (Until at last I threw down my enemy and smote his ruin on the mountainside.)
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To: lugsoul
For heaven's sake!

This is nothing but political posturing by the Kerry-loving US Olympic Committee.

To hell with them. The games are over in three days anyway.

28 posted on 08/26/2004 8:54:02 AM PDT by sinkspur ("What's the point in being Pope if I can't wear the tiara?"--Cardinal Fanfani)
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To: craig_eddy; RS; gopwinsin04

I believe this is the USOC, not the IOC.

Here is a list of the USCO Board of Directors, as found on this site:
http://www.usoc.org/11937_19359.htm

Peter Ueberroth named USOC Board Chair
By usolympicteam.com // June 14, 2004

COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. – One of the most recognized and respected leaders in the Olympic movement, American business and the world of sport was introduced today as Chair of the new United States Olympic Committee (USOC) Board of Directors.
Peter Ueberroth (Laguna Beach, Calif.), who served as President of the Los Angeles Olympic Organizing Committee (LAOOC) for the landmark 1984 Olympic Games, will Chair the USOC Board of Directors.

Ueberroth, 66, developed the financial and operational blueprint upon which the Olympic movement continues to flourish two decades after the Los Angeles Games. Under his leadership and management, the first privately-financed Games generated a surplus of $238 million that continues to support youth and sports programs throughout the United States. Just as importantly, the Los Angeles Games rekindled the Olympic spirit and helped further the Olympic ideals in the United States and beyond.

Faced with the prospect of an Olympic boycott in May 1984 by the former Soviet Union, East Germany and other Soviet-bloc nations, Ueberroth convinced China and Romania to participate in the Los Angeles Games, and a total of 140 nations entered teams, creating a major success which paved the way for the gathering of the Olympic family in Seoul in 1988. It ushered in an era of unprecedented prosperity and interest in hosting the Games by scores of cities around the world, which remains strong today.

The USOC’s share of the surplus, some $143 million, helped create the U.S. Olympic Foundation, a watershed of additional financial support for American athletes which still exists, and each USOC National Governing Body received $1.3 million for its benefit. The USOC had guaranteed some $25 million against a shortfall from the 1984 Games and in return was awarded a 40-percent share of the eventual surplus, along with a 20- percent share that went to the NGBs.

Ueberroth was honored as the 1984 Man of the Year by both Time Magazine and The Sporting News, and is a recipient of the prestigious Olympic Order from the International Olympic Committee.

He is a strong supporter and advocate for the bid by New York City to win the honor of hosting the 2012 Olympic Games, and recently appeared in New York to speak on behalf of NYC2012 and its efforts.

Following the Los Angeles Games, Ueberroth went on to serve as Commissioner of Major League Baseball from 1984-89. Today, he serves as Managing Director of Contrarian Group, Inc., an investment and management company based in Newport Beach, Calif. He is also Owner and Co-Chairman of the Pebble Beach Company, Co-Chairman of the Board of Ambassadors International, and a member of the Board of Directors of The Coca-Cola Company and Hilton Hotels Corporation.

Ueberroth replaces Bill Martin (Ann Arbor, Mich.), who has served as Acting President of the USOC since February 2003 and led the organization through its historic governance transition.

“I am honored to once again have the opportunity to serve a movement and a cause that makes such an important difference in the lives of so many,” Ueberroth said. “In accepting this assignment, I want to thank Bill Martin and the members of the outgoing USOC Board of Directors for their dedication and commitment to the Olympic movement. We look forward to their continued contributions.

“The outgoing Board wanted a new day for the USOC, and indeed this is a new day,” Ueberroth added.

Joining Ueberroth on the 11-person USOC Board of Directors, which is seated and assumes its duties beginning today under the organization’s new bylaws, are:

Bob Ctvrtlik, Newport Beach, Calif.
· U.S. member of the International Olympic Committee
· President, Green Street Properties LLC

Erroll Davis, Madison, Wis.
· Independent Director
· Chairman and CEO, Alliant Energy

Anita L. DeFrantz, Los Angeles, Calif.
· U.S. member of the International Olympic Committee
· President, Amateur Athletic Foundation of Los Angeles

Jim Easton, Van Nuys, Calif.
· U.S. member of the International Olympic Committee
· Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Easton Incorporated

Jair Lynch, Washington, D.C.
· Nominated by the Athletes’ Advisory Council
· Founder, The Jair Lynch Companies

Mary McCagg, Cambridge, Mass.
· Nominated by the Athletes’ Advisory Council
· Assistant Publishing Manager, Candlewick Press

Jim McCarthy, Chicago, Ill.
· Nominated by the National Governing Body Council
· Attorney-at-Law, private practice

Mike Plant, Peachtree City, Ga.
· Nominated by the National Governing Body Council
· Executive Vice President of Business Operations, Atlanta Braves

Dr. Harold Shapiro, Princeton, N.J.
· Independent Director
· President Emeritus and Professor of Economics and Public Affairs, Princeton University

Stephanie Streeter, Neenah, Wis.
· Independent Director
· Chairman, President and CEO, Banta Corporation


29 posted on 08/26/2004 8:54:50 AM PDT by Constitution Day (...Reporting live from the Holy Barbecue City of Wilson, NC...)
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To: lugsoul
It is the entire basis of the story. The IOC and, within the US, the USOC own the rights to the use of the phrases "Olympic Games" and "Olympics" and "Olympiad"

That's a trademark, not a copyright. A trademark can only be infringed if the alleged infringment is meant to confuse or mislead consumers.

30 posted on 08/26/2004 8:55:05 AM PDT by kevkrom (My handle is "kevkrom", and I approved this post.)
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To: All
USOC Board Bios (PDF)
31 posted on 08/26/2004 8:55:49 AM PDT by Constitution Day (...Reporting live from the Holy Barbecue City of Wilson, NC...)
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To: sinkspur

Sink, if these guys didn't come along every four years and send out legal threats to folks like the "Olympic Car Wash" and "Olympic Pizza" and hotels offering their "Olympic Weekend Package", then you might be able to call it "political posturing." But the fact of the matter is that they do this all the time, to everyone they can find using their name. Why wouldn't it be "political posturing" if they did it to everyone else but DIDN'T say anything to the campaign?


32 posted on 08/26/2004 8:57:50 AM PDT by lugsoul (Until at last I threw down my enemy and smote his ruin on the mountainside.)
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To: kevkrom

And your background in intellectual property law is what, exactly?


33 posted on 08/26/2004 8:59:33 AM PDT by lugsoul (Until at last I threw down my enemy and smote his ruin on the mountainside.)
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To: lugsoul

Better run and prostrate yourself in that post there were two uses of the world "Olympic."

In reality there is no exclusivity given that prevents use of the words or phrases claimed. This is just more RAT whining.


34 posted on 08/26/2004 9:01:10 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (My Father was 10x the hero John Fraud Kerry is.)
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To: gopwinsin04

The olympic committee folks have been the most corrupt bunch of goons in recent history, outside the corrupt goons at the UN of course.


35 posted on 08/26/2004 9:01:13 AM PDT by OldFriend (WAR IS THE REMEDY OUR ENEMIES HAVE CHOSEN)
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To: lugsoul

If the Bush add said he is the "Olympic President" then you would have a point. That is not what the add is doing. It is reporting a fact about the Olympic games. Does every news organization have to get permission to use the word "Olympic" when reporting a news story about the games?


36 posted on 08/26/2004 9:02:10 AM PDT by On the Road to Serfdom
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To: Hatteras

The committee is upset that there are so many people demanding tickets to all the events that the place is being overrun with patrons and they want no further mention of the Olympics in the media.


37 posted on 08/26/2004 9:02:29 AM PDT by OldFriend (WAR IS THE REMEDY OUR ENEMIES HAVE CHOSEN)
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To: lugsoul

You are using the word "olympics" right now. Are you infringing on the copyright. Of course not.

The word "olympics" is in the dictionary and has existed for some time. To say that one sign of an improved situation in Afghan and Iraq is their participation in the "olympics" is not to infringe on anyone's copyright/trademark.

It is a statement of fact.

Similar to saying, "the plane flew over the Rose Bowl Parade."


38 posted on 08/26/2004 9:02:51 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army and Supporting Bush/Cheney 2004!)
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To: lugsoul

I don't think the Comittee has much of a case - the term 'Olympics' is pretty much in the public domain.


39 posted on 08/26/2004 9:03:04 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: RogueIsland

My guess is that 99% of the media is a clone of Jayson Blair.


40 posted on 08/26/2004 9:03:35 AM PDT by OldFriend (WAR IS THE REMEDY OUR ENEMIES HAVE CHOSEN)
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To: lugsoul
Sink, if these guys didn't come along every four years and send out legal threats to folks like the "Olympic Car Wash" and "Olympic Pizza" and hotels offering their "Olympic Weekend Package", then you might be able to call it "political posturing."

It's silly, and I can't believe someone as intelligent as you would be defending it.

But, then, you make your money off this kind of stuff.

41 posted on 08/26/2004 9:03:51 AM PDT by sinkspur ("What's the point in being Pope if I can't wear the tiara?"--Cardinal Fanfani)
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To: xzins
Silly. Like this entire thread.

"You are using the word "olympics" right now. Are you infringing on the copyright. Of course not."

Ummm... I am not using it to advertise. I am not using it for promotion. Get a grip.

Okay, whatever, you are all correct. I'm GLAD the Prez told those commie wimps like Ueberroth to shove it. Just goes to show that the bulge in those jeans ain't no sock. And when GM complains about his ads referring to Cheney as the "Cadillac" of vice-presidents, I hope he reminds them of the military might at his disposal and snaps them back into line.

42 posted on 08/26/2004 9:07:54 AM PDT by lugsoul (Until at last I threw down my enemy and smote his ruin on the mountainside.)
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To: On the Road to Serfdom

Jeez. This is not a news story. It is not a speech. It is not a post on the internet. It is not a dictionary. It is an ADVERTISEMENT.


43 posted on 08/26/2004 9:09:26 AM PDT by lugsoul (Until at last I threw down my enemy and smote his ruin on the mountainside.)
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To: lugsoul
get a grip

Get a dictionary.

44 posted on 08/26/2004 9:12:54 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army and Supporting Bush/Cheney 2004!)
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To: sinkspur

just a little clarification, sink. I'm not defending the OCs actions - though they do have a RIGHT to do it, and a legal right at that. I'm just amazed that the lockstep is so rigid that people actually get a testosterone boost from the campaign refusing to acknowledge that legal right. "he's got a pair, and he knows how to use them". Yeah. "We won't stop running the ad now, but we are stopping in three days so let us show how tough we are by telling you no."


45 posted on 08/26/2004 9:13:24 AM PDT by lugsoul (Until at last I threw down my enemy and smote his ruin on the mountainside.)
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To: xzins

Jeez. This is not a news story. It is not a speech. It is not a post on the internet. It is not a dictionary. It is an ADVERTISEMENT.



46 posted on 08/26/2004 9:13:50 AM PDT by lugsoul (Until at last I threw down my enemy and smote his ruin on the mountainside.)
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To: lugsoul

It is a dictionary word. It is a historic word. It is a word for a specific location and set of athletic events.

And the bottom line is that it is NOT a copyright infringement. If it were, they'd sue. If it were, the President's lawyers would tell him to pull the ad.

No one's suing and no one's pulling, so we must have some agreement that it's not a copyright infringement and is, instead, legitimate use of a common word.

You realize, don't you, that without a lawsuit or a pulled ad that your argument evaporates?


47 posted on 08/26/2004 9:18:18 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army and Supporting Bush/Cheney 2004!)
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To: xzins

Exactly.

If the Olympic Committee has a problem with this, call out the lawyers and Bring It On.

They won't because they can't. Euroweeni alert.


48 posted on 08/26/2004 9:19:51 AM PDT by Peach (The Clinton's pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: lugsoul
And your background in intellectual property law is what, exactly?

More than yours, if you think you can use the terms trademark and copyright interchangeably.

49 posted on 08/26/2004 9:21:30 AM PDT by kevkrom (My handle is "kevkrom", and I approved this post.)
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To: lugsoul
They look cheap and petty telling the President of the United States that he cannot point out that two nations are now free and participating in the Olympics.

The USOC should be working with the IOC to get the judging fiasco under control so that the games aren't compromised any more than they already are instead of worrying about getting a little free publicity from the leader of the free world.

50 posted on 08/26/2004 9:21:56 AM PDT by sinkspur ("What's the point in being Pope if I can't wear the tiara?"--Cardinal Fanfani)
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