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Alice Cooper: Fellow Rockers are Treasonous Morons
Mens News Daily/Talon News ^ | August 26, 2004 | Steve Roeder

Posted on 08/26/2004 8:47:42 AM PDT by onyx

Alice Cooper: Fellow Rockers are Treasonous Morons

Rock and roll legend Alice Cooper called fellow rock stars campaigning for presidential candidate Sen. John Kerry (D-MA) "treasonous morons." Cooper, 56, told the Canadian Press that he was appalled that follow musicians Bruce Springsteen, John Mellencamp, R.E.M., Sheryl Crow, James Taylor, and Dave Matthews are performing a series of concerts in hopes of defeating President George W. Bush in the November 2 election.

Cooper, whose real name is Vincent Damon Furnier, is reportedly a strong Republican and fan of Bush who joins Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) at NBA games in Phoenix.

"To me, that's treason," Cooper said. "I call it treason against rock and roll, because rock is the antithesis of politics. Rock should never be in bed with politics".

Cooper continued, "If you're listening to a rock star in order to get your information on who to vote for, you're a bigger moron than they are. Why are we rock stars? Because we're morons. We sleep all day, we play music at night and very rarely do we sit around reading the Washington Journal."

"When I was a kid and my parents started talking about politics, I'd run to my room and put on the Rolling Stones as loud as I could," Cooper explained. "So when I see all these rock stars up there talking politics, it makes me sick.

Concluded Cooper, "Besides, when I read the list of people who are supporting Kerry, if I wasn't already a Bush supporter, I would have immediately switched. Linda Ronstadt? Don Henley? Geez, that's a good reason right there to vote for Bush."

Ronstadt was recently escorted off the property by the president of the Aladdin Hotels in Las Vegas after espousing her liberal political viewpoint by publicly supporting leftist, Bush-bashing film director Michael Moore. Her action prompted Aladdin President Bill Timmins, who attended the concert, to ban Ronstadt from the property. Aladdin staff checked her out of her room and escorted her to her tour bus.

Henley was booed on stage at the Pacific Amphitheatre in Orange County, CA, for expressing support for Ronstadt during one of his recent concerts. Later in the show, Henley, a former member of the Eagles, suggested his next song could be sung as a duet by President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney. Written by Randy Newman, "Political Science" has the U.S. dropping nukes on nearly every other part of the world.

Meanwhile, the GOP announced Monday that the country duo Brooks & Dunn will headline the entertainment at the Republican National convention next week in New York. Other talent includes country singer Lee Ann Womack, Christian rock band Third Day, and gospel vocalist Donnie McClurkin.


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1 posted on 08/26/2004 8:47:43 AM PDT by onyx
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To: onyx

Yeeeeeaaaaarghgggg!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


2 posted on 08/26/2004 8:48:10 AM PDT by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: onyx

Donnie McClurkin -- cool!

I hope Kerry has his concession speech ready.


3 posted on 08/26/2004 8:49:33 AM PDT by old3030 (Genius may have its limitations, but stupidity is not thus handicapped -- Elbert Hubbard)
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4 posted on 08/26/2004 8:49:46 AM PDT by Ouachita
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To: onyx

Awesome! I have always kinda liked this guy, and I like his new commercial with his young daughter..


5 posted on 08/26/2004 8:58:38 AM PDT by Paradox (Occam was probably right.)
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To: Ouachita


But the rock stars for Kerry are "treasonous" morons. LOL


6 posted on 08/26/2004 8:59:06 AM PDT by onyx (JohnKerry -- the standard bearer for the unbearable)
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To: onyx

Brooks & Dunn to Play the 2004 Republican National Convention

Award Winning Lineup to Take the Stage at Madison Square Garden
August 23, 2004

NEW YORK - Republican National Committee Chairman Ed Gillespie and Bill Harris, CEO of the 2004 Republican National Convention, today announced a second group of entertainers who will perform in New York City during the 2004 Republican National Convention. Country music superstars Brooks & Dunn, Grammy Award-winning Country singer Lee Ann Womack, Latin Grammy Nominee Jaci Velasquez, Grammy Award-winning rock band Third Day, the inspirational Gracie Rosenberger, rock band Dexter Freebish, Country star Darryl Worley, and Grammy Award-winning Donnie McClurkin join a previously announced lineup of entertainers who will take the stage at Madison Square Garden.

"We appreciate the fact that these artists are lending their time and talents to the Republican National Convention," said Chairman Gillespie. "Brooks & Dunn, Lee Ann Womack, Third Day and each of the entertainers participating in New York bring enjoyment to millions of fans and we are honored to showcase those talents during our convention."

"The Republican Party is honored to 'play the Garden' this month, and it will be a thrill to see these entertainers take the stage," said Mr. Harris. "Our program of outstanding speakers and performers will showcase the momentum and excitement of the Republican Party as we head into the fall."

Today's additions join a previously announced lineup of entertainers to perform at the 2004 Republican National Convention. The initial group includes Michael W. Smith, Daniel Rodriquez, Daize Shayne, Ron Silver, the Gatlin Brothers, Elisabeth Hasselbeck, Sara Evans and Dana Glover.

The 2004 Republican National Convention will be held for the first time ever in New York City at Madison Square Garden from August 30 - September 2, 2004.


7 posted on 08/26/2004 9:00:52 AM PDT by LuckyHat ("Carve out the heart, he said over dinner, pull out the entrails and cut up the meat.")
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To: onyx

LOL.

The treason he speaks of is treason against rock and roll because it (rock and roll) should be apolitical. Anybody know the penalty for committing treason against rock and roll. No face paint for a year?

It would appear he is referring to himself as a treasonous moron as well, since he is spouting his political beliefs as well. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

I also think it's extremely funny that he's getting so much support around here when he is one of the guys who mainstreamed Satanism in rock music. I wonder how those over there in the Religion forum feel about him.


8 posted on 08/26/2004 9:03:42 AM PDT by dmz
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To: LuckyHat

Nice, decent line up for GOP convention.

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My favorite quote:

Concluded Cooper, "Besides, when I read the list of people who are supporting Kerry, if I wasn't already a Bush supporter, I would have immediately switched. Linda Ronstadt? Don Henley? Geez, that's a good reason right there to vote for Bush."


9 posted on 08/26/2004 9:04:24 AM PDT by onyx (JohnKerry -- the standard bearer for the unbearable)
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To: dmz

I wonder how those over there in the Religion forum feel about him.





No you don't and neither do I. :)


10 posted on 08/26/2004 9:06:49 AM PDT by onyx (JohnKerry -- the standard bearer for the unbearable)
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To: onyx

Yeah, I like the lineup, and am glad to see that Brittney Spears won't be gyrating on stage. Put her in a respectable dress and have her mingle with the newsies.


11 posted on 08/26/2004 9:08:49 AM PDT by ABG(anybody but Gore) ("I'm just a gigolo, and everywhere I go, people know I'm lyin' about 'Nam".....)
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To: onyx
I have always liked Alice cooper.My kids {all Girls} used to tell their friends my dad likes Alice cooper he looks like a witch that lives under a bridge.
12 posted on 08/26/2004 9:10:56 AM PDT by solo gringo (Give us more of Bush/Cheney in o4.)
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To: solo gringo

LOL! "Look like a witch that lives under a bridge"

would that be a troll? LOL!


13 posted on 08/26/2004 9:16:49 AM PDT by onyx (JohnKerry -- the standard bearer for the unbearable)
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To: dmz
I wonder how those over there in the Religion forum feel about him.

There was a thread not too long ago about Alice turning his life around - going to church etc. He doesn't do all of his old songs anymore on tour due to the lyrics. He has a radio show at night from 7-12. I get a kick out of listening to him and wish him well.

14 posted on 08/26/2004 9:20:46 AM PDT by Nick The Freeper
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To: solo gringo

I always liked Alice as well, now so even more!

Nice to see that there are a few of the Hollyweird crowd that have some common sense.

I think I'll go buy his greatest hits CD just to spite the filthy libs.


15 posted on 08/26/2004 9:22:36 AM PDT by 50 Cal (Next time you think nobody cares if you exist just don't pay the IRS!)
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To: Nick The Freeper

Talk about wanting to have your cake and eat it too.

He still dresses the way he used to, making money off of the old stuff, the old look, while exclaiming that he's a new man.

Take off the makeup, write some new songs, get out there and play 'em. Then I might buy his "conversion".

I grew up in his original era. I thought he was an idiot then, and I have yet to be convinced otherwise, and this latest diatribe is not helping him, IMHO.

I like it best when musicians ply the trade of music.


16 posted on 08/26/2004 9:26:41 AM PDT by dmz
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To: Nick The Freeper

Gotta remember, ole Alice is the son of a preacher so Christian beliefs are not unfamiliar. I see his music, etc. as his onstage persona. Though I'm a Christian and enjoy his music also, my parents (very devout) think he's demonic.
To me music doesn't necessarily represent life's views. BTW, I listen to The Carpenters, Tommy Dorsey, Charlie Daniels (there's a heck of a guy!)etc. too.


17 posted on 08/26/2004 9:37:38 AM PDT by Mustng959 (In loving memory of those that gave their all to preserve our Freedoms!)
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To: Nick The Freeper

Alice had his sensitive side. He wrote Only Women Bleed.


18 posted on 08/26/2004 9:41:47 AM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: GSWarrior
Yeah, sensitive....

One thing...No Lie
Ethyl is as frigid as an eskimo pie
She's Cool...In Bed...
Hell, she oughtta be, cuz Ethyl's Dead...

19 posted on 08/26/2004 9:45:48 AM PDT by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "I know everything so you don't have to" ;)
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To: onyx

" . . . Linda Ronstadt? Don Henley? Geez, that's a good reason right there to vote for Bush."

Couldn't have said it better, myself.


20 posted on 08/26/2004 9:47:34 AM PDT by Old Grumpy
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To: hobbes1

Actually, he has written much worse. Check out the lyrics to I Love The Dead....or just take my word for it.


21 posted on 08/26/2004 9:50:56 AM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: GSWarrior

I love the Coop.


22 posted on 08/26/2004 9:51:54 AM PDT by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "I know everything so you don't have to" ;)
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To: onyx

He's always been ahead of the typical rocker curve. Lived in Phoenix instead of LA, plays golf, votes GOP. Too bad he's no longer current - only us old farts know who he is!


23 posted on 08/26/2004 9:53:19 AM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Right makes right!)
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To: hobbes1

He produced some of the best hard rock to reach AM radio in the early 70s, that's for sure.


24 posted on 08/26/2004 9:53:47 AM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: dmz

Obviously you know nothing about Alice Cooper. Never had any satanistic overtones. Refreshing that he is still relevant in 2004, relentlessly skewering the entertainment world's vacuous phonies.


Alice Cooper for President
"A troubled man for troubled times"


25 posted on 08/26/2004 9:56:27 AM PDT by DickBrannigan
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To: onyx
I don't Remember but he looked like a witch you would see stirring the boiling pot in the movies.
26 posted on 08/26/2004 10:45:11 AM PDT by solo gringo (Give us more of Bush/Cheney in o4.)
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To: Ouachita; Victoria Delsoul
Love it!

Victoria... thought you'd appreciate this.

How are you doing, Victoria?

Has School started yet?

27 posted on 08/26/2004 12:33:50 PM PDT by Northern Yankee (Freedom Needs A Soldier!)
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To: DickBrannigan

You, sir, are absolutely hilarious to suggest that Alice Cooper "never had any satanistic overtones." (your quote)

Obviously you have never read ANY of Alice's lyrics. For your edification, please read the following lyrics from Alice's 1973 release "Billion Dollar Babies". (song title is "I love the dead"

I love the dead before they're cold
They're bluing flesh for me to hold
Cadaver eyes upon me see nothing
I love the dead before they rise
No farewells, no goodbyes
I never knew your rotting face
While friends and lovers mourn your silly grave
I have other uses for you, Darling
We love the dead
We love the dead, Yeah



28 posted on 08/26/2004 1:21:29 PM PDT by dmz
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To: DickBrannigan

You should really check out this site, has all of his lyrics.

http://www.darklyrics.com/a/alicecooper.html


29 posted on 08/26/2004 1:28:20 PM PDT by dmz
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To: Northern Yankee
LOL, I love this comment:

Concluded Cooper, "Besides, when I read the list of people who are supporting Kerry, if I wasn't already a Bush supporter, I would have immediately switched. Linda Ronstadt? Don Henley? Geez, that's a good reason right there to vote for Bush."

Good to see you, Jay! Summer classes are over, and I get just a few days off until I start teaching Spanish the week after next.

How are you doing my friend? Long time no see.

30 posted on 08/26/2004 4:20:05 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul (Kerry, release your records as GW did. Prove you were in Cambodia under Nixon in 1968)
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To: dmz
one of the guys who mainstreamed Satanism in rock music.

Not Alice. Even some of his earlier songs were spiritual. He does act out the part of a sadistic maniac, but if you read the lyrics they have or imply that there are grave consequences to such behavior. He was criticized for blood and guts in his shows, not Satanism. BTW, he is a devout Christian, some of his earlier songs indicate that he had at least a glimmer of belief then.

31 posted on 08/27/2004 6:19:35 AM PDT by ItsTheMediaStupid
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To: dmz

Actually, Cooper is a born again Christian.


32 posted on 08/27/2004 6:23:42 AM PDT by Skooz (My Biography: Psalm 40:1-3)
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To: onyx
"When I was a kid and my parents started talking about politics, I'd run to my room and put on the Rolling Stones as loud as I could," Cooper explained.

I realize that Alice Cooper is old but what does this make the Stones? Cooper is on target with this.

33 posted on 08/27/2004 6:27:04 AM PDT by Unknown Freeper
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To: Unknown Freeper

Let me rephrase that. I didn't mean Cooper is old old but that he is mature, not some young teenage rocker.


34 posted on 08/27/2004 6:28:20 AM PDT by Unknown Freeper
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To: LuckyHat

I have tickets to see Brooks and Dunn at the York Fair - September 10th. Looking forward to it.

I saw Toby Keith 2 years ago at the York Fair - loved his show - he talked a lot about the Peter Jennings thing.

I hope Brooks and Dunn tell us about their experience at the convention.


35 posted on 08/27/2004 6:28:39 AM PDT by fawn796
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To: dmz
It would appear he is referring to himself as a treasonous moron as well, since he is spouting his political beliefs as well. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

The difference is, he's not going on a whirlwind cross-country tour to influence the vote.

36 posted on 08/27/2004 6:32:06 AM PDT by PLOM...NOT!
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To: ItsTheMediaStupid; Skooz

Please see my post #28 in which the lyrics to his 1973 song I love the dead are reprinted for your edification. A link to all of his lyrics is in post #29.

That he is born again or a devout Christian today is irrelevant to what he was doing in the early '70's, which was the point of my original post on this topic. Actually my point was that the mainstreamer of this kind of dark sensibility in rock music is now the darling of the right. I still wonder how this would play over on the Religion forum.

Please tell what the "grave" (LOL) consequences that are implied I love the Dead? And before you try to give me the Christian interpretation of the song, remember the stage act that went along with it. Not something you'd be likely to see staged at a "contemporary Christian church service".

If Marilyn Manson came out in favor of GWB and the war in Iraq, would he(?) become favored as well?


37 posted on 08/27/2004 7:12:26 AM PDT by dmz
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To: onyx
Schools Out !!


38 posted on 08/27/2004 7:17:48 AM PDT by unixfox (Close the borders, problems solved!)
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To: dmz

Not to split hairs, but necrophelia doesn't necessarily equal satanism. Cooper wrote some pretty outrageous stuff, but there was always a tongue & cheek quality to it. Heck, I had a copy of Billion Dollar Babies but as a thirteen year old never at any time took the stuff on it seriously. Lyrics aside, the guy put out some pretty good music.


39 posted on 08/27/2004 7:21:58 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: dmz
1973 was over 30 years ago. My point was that he is now a born again Christian. I was responding to your question "I wonder how those over there in the Religion forum feel about him."

I answered the question by saying that he is a Christian now.

I listened to a lot of Alice Cooper back then, and he never invoked any kind of satanism in his music. It was all a horror show much like the old 1950s horror movies. In fact, Vincent Price narrated the album "Welcome to My Nightmare."

40 posted on 08/27/2004 7:40:15 AM PDT by Skooz (My Biography: Psalm 40:1-3)
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To: onyx
"To me, that's treason," Cooper said. "I call it treason against rock and roll, because rock is the antithesis of politics. Rock should never be in bed with politics".

Cooper continued, "If you're listening to a rock star in order to get your information on who to vote for, you're a bigger moron than they are. Why are we rock stars? Because we're morons. We sleep all day, we play music at night and very rarely do we sit around reading the Washington Journal."

Sniff...that's beautiful man. I could read it over and over.

41 posted on 08/27/2004 8:06:09 AM PDT by subterfuge (Liberalism is, as liberalism does.)
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To: dmz

Blah, blah, blah. Is that the best you can do?

Do you agree with what he said and quit whining. No one wants to hear what you think about his clothes and hair.


42 posted on 08/27/2004 8:11:37 AM PDT by subterfuge (Liberalism is, as liberalism does.)
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To: dmz

Hey dmz, what do his song lyrics have to do with anything? He admitted rock stars are morons so he is suggesting you ignore. I guess in your world, everyone has to be squeaky clean in order to be considered sentient.


43 posted on 08/27/2004 8:17:29 AM PDT by subterfuge (Liberalism is, as liberalism does.)
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To: subterfuge

Hey subterfuge -

Uhh, did you read the whole thread? Clearly not. One of the folks on this thread said that he had NO satanistic overtones in his music. I disagreed, and backed it up with his lyrics.

That's what his lyrics have to do with it.

Your comment at the end of your post "I guess in your world, everyone has to be squeaky clean in order to be considered sentient." makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. But since you couldn't even figure out why his lyrics were under discussion, I guess that's only to be expected.

If you're gonna swim in the grownup pool, at least try to keep up.


44 posted on 08/27/2004 8:42:01 AM PDT by dmz
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To: dmz

You continue to step in your own drool d.

I read the thread and don't care about your little side discussion.

What I want to know is if you agree with what he says (psst: its the subject of the thread, not your side arguement).

C'mon, admit it, you love Linda R., Bruce Springstyne and Johnny Cougar don't you?


45 posted on 08/27/2004 9:39:15 AM PDT by subterfuge (Liberalism is, as liberalism does.)
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To: dmz

That song is no more satanic than Edger Allen Poe or Shelly! To write music about horror and dead people is no worse than writing about horror. So if you think his early work is satanic then explain some of these songs.


Hallowed Be My Name(1971)

Gather round right now and hear me whisper the words of the prison the words of laughter
The lords and the ladies were fixing their hairdos cursing their lovers cursing the bible
Hallowed be my name yelling at fathers screaming at mothers hallowed be my name
Come all you sinners come now in your glory and my ears will listen to your dirty stories
You're fighting to go up 'cause you're on your way down cursing their lovers cursing the bible
Hallowed be my name yelling at fathers screaming at mothers hallowed be my name ahhahahahaha
Sluts and the hookers have taken your money the queens are out dancing but now they're not funny
'cause there goes one walkin' away with your sonny cursing their lovers cursing the bible
Hallowed be my name yelling at fathers screaming at mothers hallowed be my name

Second Coming (1971)

I couldn't tell if the bells were getting louder the songs they ring I finally recognize
I only know hell is getting hotter the devil's getting smarter all the time
And it would be nice to walk upon the water to talk again to angels on my side
Time is getting closer I read it on a poster fanatical exposers on corners prophecy
It would be nice to walk upon the water to talk again to angels at my side
I just come back to show you all my words are golden so have no gods before me I'm the light

My God (1977)

If I should find myself in blackest night,
and fear is stabbin' me all over,
a tiny prayer cracks the dark with light,
and I here sounds behind my wall.
Inside, a still, small voice, it calls and calls.
Then like a thunder bolt,
it falls and falls...
My God!
When life becomes more real than children's games,
or we've become too old to play them,
We'll grow old gracefully,
we'll hide our shame.
but there's that voice behind the wall.
And like my conscience,
it is still and small.
Each word is mercy,
protects us all...
My God!
"And like my conscience, it is still and small.
Each word is mercy, protects us all..."
I was a boy,
when tempted,
fell sometimes,
and fell so low,
no one could see me,
save for the eyes of Him that sees my crime.
When sheep,
like me, have drifted lost,
all frightened children who are tempest tossed, down flies His wrath like an albatross...
My God!




46 posted on 08/27/2004 10:20:06 AM PDT by ItsTheMediaStupid
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To: dmz
Thanks for that site! Some great poetry there. Wasn't Desperado done later by the Eagles, or was that another song of the same name?

Well gotta log off now, gonna go read a Satanic novel, by Steven King!
47 posted on 08/27/2004 10:25:32 AM PDT by ItsTheMediaStupid
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To: subterfuge

LOL. Apparently you care enough about the side conversation to keep it going.

Yes. I agree with him that he, and rockers in general, are morons. When stage shows count for more than the music, I tend to shut down.

Anyone looking to a celebrity for their political views is a moron, and that goes as much for Rush Limbaugh as it does Bruce Springsteen.

And since you are apparently very interested in my musical tastes, come out to merriweather post pavillion in Columbia MD this Sunday and you'll get a good sense of it. Del McCoury, Sam Bush, Yonder Mtn String Band, and a few others. Never thought much of Linda R. Mellencamp too pop oriented, but as far as Springsteen is concerned, I really do like the album "ghost of tom joad". Feel better now?



48 posted on 08/27/2004 10:39:25 AM PDT by dmz
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To: dmz

Looks like we agree after all. Have a nice weekend!


49 posted on 08/27/2004 10:42:03 AM PDT by subterfuge (Liberalism is, as liberalism does.)
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To: LuckyHat

I'm glad some well-known musicians are playing the Convention, but I truly cannot stand country music. Ugh!


50 posted on 08/27/2004 10:50:35 AM PDT by Romish_Papist (USAF Security Forces (1994-2003) Soon to be ANG.)
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