Posted on 08/26/2004 4:14:14 PM PDT by technomage
Sorry Freepers, but I have had it with Juan Williams.
I am tired of his imitation of someone that actually thinks for himself, someone that has brains. Juan Williams is just plain ignorant, a talking head for the libs.
A few years ago, I can remember Juan Williams DEFENDING Palestinian terrorists/murderers as freedom fighters. This was right in the middle of the last massive wave of terrorist attacks in Israel that killed dozens of innocent civilians, including children, teenagers and babies. Juan Williams just could not call these subhumans terrorists: He called them freedom fighters thereby trying to legitimize their actions. That same week many of the liberal talking heads were using the same terminology. Ergo, Juan Williams did not think for himself, come to those conclusions himself. He was using Democratic talking points.
Fast forward to the last couple of weeks. When asked if the 527's that have been absolutely bashing and smearing the Bush administration for the past year are in the same category as the SwiftBoat Vets, he said, and I paraphrase: "The SwiftBoat Vets are using smear tactics while the other organizations are just using hard hitting political commentary".
Once again Juan Williams shows just how much of a puppet he is.
Today Juan Williams said (with a straight face) that NONE of John Kerry's accounts of Vietnam have been shown to be false. He even went so far as to say that the proof that Kerry was not under fire during his first purple heart, Kerry's diary, only referred to the CREW, not to KERRY. WTF??? The crew was not under fire but Kerry was? Juan Williams may be losing his last 2 functioning brain cells!!
Too bad that a supposed journalist does not pay attention to the events of the day. We all know that many of Kerry's claims have been proven false and others are falling apart. Evidently Juan Williams is just an obedient hack, mindlessly recounting the talking points that he obviously receives throughout the day.
Juan Williams is the perfect example of the brain dead, incredibly biased, nasty left media of today. They cannot think for themselves, they will not think for themselves, and they believe that the American public is so damn stupid that they can spew their poison and lies with abandon.
The left does have one thing right: If they actually reported the news in a neutral manner, the slow ebb away from liberalism we have all seen over the past few years would turn into a torrent. The left knows that. That is why they must lie, cheat, smear, do anything and everything underhanded and illegal to get what? Their power, nothing more.
Poor little Juan is just another mindless liberal pawn in this liberal conspiracy of lies and deceit.
So, Kerry lied to his own diary?
Gosh, where have we heard THAT before?
I, for one, am willing to give Juan the benefit of the doubt. He may not be ignorant. He probably is just devious and dishonest.
He brings NOTHING to the table.
I don't think much of Juan Williams either. He never strays from the Dem talking points. He cannot think for himself and never has any insight or original thoughts. Whenever I hear him I always think how standards were lowered to get a minority.
Gosh, where have we heard THAT before?
Josh Steiner was reduced to claiming to lie to his own diary when its account of Sick Willie's activities varied from the official line.
Move to the head of the class, OO!
Dumb liberal talking head<
But wasn't it about Hillary? Something about her being the one that called for one of those incidents that ended with "-gate"?
At least Kondracke, Barnes, Connelly and others give opinions that are sometimes very contradictory to the talking points of the day. Mort Kondracke in particular is not bad for a liberal. I could probably have a decent discussion with him.
Everything could be "cleared up" if Kerry would just release his medical and military records---ALL OF THEM! (instead of going after irrelevant data about the swifties!)
Yes I know. But isn't that the norm??
Brit, Mort and Fred had the look of WHAT THE F are you talking about?
He said something about Bush's smear tactics and Brit called him on it and asked for proof Bush had anything to do with ads....Juan can be an honest liberal at times when there is no election on ...now he is just a raving partisan, spouting dem lies and talking points.
WHITEWATER
the way Kerry's diary statement was phrased, I can see why the Dem spin might stick on this statement....
IF I understand it correctly, the spin is that since he was assigned to his own boat/command, his new crew hadn't been fired upon, yet.
If the first purple heart was obtained from his dust-up with schrapnel on the Boston Whaler/training mission on 12/2, then this journal entry could make some sense.
This statement is less to hang him on than plenty of other issues...I think this particular issue is a little thin. I would rather hit him with the Admiral on 12/2. The doctor on 12/2.etc., etc....
That is sop when Juan is on the program. He is a disgrace to his race IMHO.
Juan is nothing more than a simpy little drone for the leftist myth machine.
What a pathetic hack.
FOX could have done a LOT better than Juan to meet their Affirmative Action objective....
LOTS better..
But you have to admit...it is fun to watch and hear him demonstrate the stupidity of the left's perspective while in the company of folks that constantly reveal him as the fool...
Semper Fi
I think I know what he is talking about here, and while I am in a minority I actually do not consider that diary entry to be particularly controversial.
Remember, when he received his first Purple Heart, he was not on PCF 44. He had not taken command yet. The boat he was on was a whaler. Once he took command of his boat, the situation, the hostilities, were all different. As a result I believe it is reasonable for him to say that "We had not yet taken fire."
If I visit New York City and am mugged, I will not necessarily start walking around in mortal fear when I return to my safe hometown.
I know I am in the minority here but I think that it is VERY important strategically to nail Kerry only when the evidence is IRREFUTABLE and also UNEXPLAINABLE. Otherwise, our credibility suffers. This is not one of those cases.
Well, MAYBE the comedic value outweighs the bias. Brit Hume has brought a smile to my face more than once when dealing with Juan Williams.
Yes I remember that thread. It brought a tear of joy to my eyes.
Don't you get it? This is fair and blanced. They have a nutjob taking the dems part. You know how upset we get when some Republicanlite is on as a "balance", we say, "Can't they get someone better than that?" Now it's the dems turn.
After his incoherent ravings the last couple of times he was on, he has apparently been in a strait jacket for several nights. I gather they let him out tonite?
Back he goes.
If his fax machine becomes broken and Juan doesn't get his talking points from Dem HQ, he is totally lost. He's completely at home on the plantation. A sorry spectacle who's never learned to think on his own.
I said it on another thread and I will say it again,
Juan Williams makes me sick, he would lap up Kerry's vomit with his tongue if he had a chance. I was so upset with him today on Brit's show that I wanted to throw something at the tv. I stopped myself, mr. rep-always would kill me if I messed up his tv.
I absolutely agree with you, but this was not about Kerry, or the evidence showing his lies. This was about the very weak way in which Juan Williams presents what are supposedly his views when in fact they are the talking points that he received that day.
This new spin on the diary entry is already making the rounds.
Those are probably the days he is not on the show.
Given that Kerry is given to the royal 'we,' I disagree.
Seriously, given his narcissism, don't you think he would have distinguished himself in this reference? Remember, his CO had disallowed the Purple Heart he had requested. Who knows when he resubmitted the request--it may well have been after this entry, which I believe adds to the preponderance of the evidence. I believe it's useful to use all arguments in favor of your point, especially when you have a smear merchant like Bill O'Blowhard arguing that Rassmann is the ideal eye witness after admitting that he spent the event in question (the Bronze Star and 3rd Purple Heart) on the bottom of the river.
Well, besides that being an extremely gross visualization, you had me laughing my ..... off!!! Thanks :)
I love it when Brit Hume slaps him down with facts and logic.
Juan is the token lib. He gives the other guys an opening to present the truth in response to Juan's half truths and distortions. If they didn't have Juan on they couldn't say they were "fair and balanced". Without Juan they would just have to sit around and talk to each other. With Juan there they can argue their point. Just my observation.
Juan works for NPR. What did you expect?
They should rename the show "Special Report with Fred Barnes"! :) Poor Mort, he never gets to talk.
"White men in their natural state." - Juan Williams (CNN's Capital Gang circa 1993) referring to the Ruby Ridge militia issue that was paramount in the early 1990's.
All you need to know about this hack.
Everything you say above is correct. I guess having one liberal on that ocassionally makes sense (Kondracke) is all that we can hope for.
Just thought it better to rant here than take it out on the property.
Whoa!! I never watched Capital Gang so this is the first time I have heard about this. So, Juan Williams appears to be a racist also??
Okay, you may have something there. Fred does however allow Juan to make his pitch and than he knocks it out the park.
No, not necessarily. I would argue it was far more dramatic in this case not to do so. Besides, he had ample opportunity in other passages of his diary to puff himself up.
Remember, his CO had disallowed the Purple Heart he had requested. Who knows when he resubmitted the request--it may well have been after this entry, which I believe adds to the preponderance of the evidence.
Look, I totally believe that the first Purple Heart was fabricated. But look, every time the MSM gets a good opportunity to slap-back the anti-Kerry crowd, it chips away at the credibility of that effort. Take for example the new AP story about Lambert: he recalls enemy fire in the Rassmann incident. You can bet the MSM is going to milk that for all it is worth. Likewise, the MSM is going to accept any explanation that helps them write off this diary entry The non-royal "we" explanation is plausible, and therefore they will run with it.
Hence it is of no use to us to put forth evidence that is easily explained away. We have to stick with evidence that is rock solid.
I think I got the year right????
He said though because Novak went after him and Shields pass right over it. No coverage from the press - but no surprise either.
NPR - sewage bought and unwillingly paid for by our hard earned tax dollars. Libs operate it, Congress votes to fund it, and us poor stiffs foot the bill to listen to someone who is so obviously uninformed on the major issues of the day, they put him in charge of the news.
FOX could have done a LOT better than Juan to meet their Affirmative Action objective....
LOTS better..
But you have to admit...it is fun to watch and hear him demonstrate the stupidity of the left's perspective while in the company of folks that constantly reveal him as the fool...
That's what I was thinking...I got a real hoot out of Fred Barnes ripping into him this evening on Brit's show.
Everthing they SAY takes me to WTF land. I couldnt beleive Alan Colmes last night saying with an absolute straight face that Kerry was stronger on defense than Bush? Thats a HUGE WTF!!! Anything you can possibly think of, they will come up with a way that it makes Kerry the better candidate. I don't see how Hannity can sit next to him and not smack him in his ugly liberal face...but I digress...sorry Freepers.
But for once in my life I'd like to behave like a lib and throw a handful of sh*t against the wall just to see what will stick.
Brit had a snippet about John O'Neill (SBVT) on tape saying he was in Cambodia - anybody know if thats true?
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