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Republicans back Bush's platform on Israel: READ MY LIPS, 'NO NEW SO-CALLED PALESTINIANS!'
Ha'aretz ^ | Last Update: 27/08/2004 05:51 | By Nathan Guttman, Haaretz Correspondent

Posted on 08/26/2004 9:25:45 PM PDT by Cinnamon Girl


President Bush waves to reporters as he arrives at the White House on Thursday in Washington. The Republican Party's draft reiterates Bush's commitment that under any final-status agreement, Palestinian refugees will not be resettled in Israel. (AP)

WASHINGTON - The Republican Party's draft platform on Israel reiterates President George Bush's commitment that under any final-status agreement with the Palestinians, Palestinian refugees will not be resettled in Israel and Israel will not be compelled to return to the 1949 armistice lines.

The draft was published Thursday in advance of the party's convention, which opens in New York on Monday. The platform, about half of which is devoted to foreign policy, also calls on the Palestinian Authority and the Arab states to democratize and fight corruption and terror.

"The Republican Party," the draft states, "shares President Bush's commitment to the security of America's democratic ally Israel. We remain committed to ensuring that Israel maintains a qualitative edge in defense technology over any potential adversaries."

"We believe that terror attacks against Israelis are part of the same evil as the September 11 attacks against America," it continues. "We recognize Israel's right to defend itself in the face of homicide bombings and other attacks against the people of Israel."

Most of the Republican platform on Israel differs little from the Democratic platform. The Democrats, for instance, also adopted the commitments made by Bush in his April 14 letter to Prime Minister Ariel Sharon regarding the non-return of refugees and allowing Israel to keep the major West Bank settlement blocs.

However, the Republican platform also includes a condemnation of the UN's "unacceptable discrimination against Israel" and says that the party, if elected, will work to change this. It also calls for halting government funding of the International Red Cross as long as that organization continues to exclude Israel's Magen David Adom.


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WE HEAR YOU LOUD AND CLEAR, GOP! This is totally on fire. The Dems are struggling to keep up. We will see Kerry supporters outside the convention next week with "Free Palestine" signs from ANSWER.
1 posted on 08/26/2004 9:25:46 PM PDT by Cinnamon Girl
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To: Cinnamon Girl

If this doesn't assist with the American Jewish vote...nothing will!


2 posted on 08/26/2004 9:28:22 PM PDT by spyone
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To: spyone

The Arab street, is saddened ...


3 posted on 08/26/2004 9:34:22 PM PDT by John Lenin
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To: Cinnamon Girl

Too bad that 75% of US Jews will still vote for Kerry. Socialism uber alles.


4 posted on 08/26/2004 9:37:12 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham
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To: Cinnamon Girl

This is why -- well one of the many reasons now, that I am voting for President Bush. He has common sense and can see the situation as it really is. It's like, the so-called palestinians are really hosting terrorists and pretending to be "poor little me" types. Has anybody ever wondered why the kids like to jump around and act like monkeys instead of humans? Its the way the terrorists are raising them.


5 posted on 08/26/2004 9:37:48 PM PDT by onyx eyes
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To: Cinnamon Girl

God bless George Bush and the GOP. Finally we have a President that stands tall with Israel.

This is good that he stands up to the UN. John Kerry would not.

"However, the Republican platform also includes a condemnation of the UN's "unacceptable discrimination against Israel" and says that the party, if elected, will work to change this. It also calls for halting government funding of the International Red Cross as long as that organization continues to exclude Israel's Magen David Adom."

Bush had this American Jew's vote the first time and the 2nd time.


6 posted on 08/26/2004 9:39:22 PM PDT by ncfool
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

I wonder if it's possible to have a thread about President Bush on Israel that doesn't include several posts about how most Jews will vote. How about wait and see?


7 posted on 08/26/2004 9:39:54 PM PDT by Cinnamon Girl
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To: ncfool

I wish he would take the same stand wit illegal aliens in this country. We have a right not to be overtaken by people who are here for entitlements and welfare benefits at taxpayers expense.


8 posted on 08/26/2004 9:41:10 PM PDT by television is just wrong
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

Mad_Tom. My Jewish friends in the midwest are Bush supporters. I spoke to a business associate in Philly yesterday and he surprised me when he told me he was for Bush. So please don't under-estimate the Jewish community in 2004 it just might surprise you.


9 posted on 08/26/2004 9:41:26 PM PDT by ncfool
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham
Too bad that 75% of US Jews will still vote for Kerry. Socialism uber alles.

I highly doubt it. But 50% of Americans will.

10 posted on 08/26/2004 9:41:41 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Cinnamon Girl

This is leadership plain and simple. President Bush is not afraid to take a stand, and everytime he does, it's for what's best for America and freedom


11 posted on 08/26/2004 9:42:08 PM PDT by MJY1288 (John Kerry Says he Would Conduct a More Thoughtful and Sensitive War on Terror)
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To: Cinnamon Girl
"We believe that terror attacks against Israelis are part of the same evil as the September 11 attacks against America," it continues. "We recognize Israel's right to defend itself in the face of homicide bombings and other attacks against the people of Israel."

Yep, the GOP gets it -- different fronts of the same war.

12 posted on 08/26/2004 9:42:16 PM PDT by NYC GOP Chick (Kerry is a Sitzpinkler!)
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To: Cinnamon Girl

"The right of return" is pretty clearly just another ploy to destroy Israel. They want half of Israel to be given to the Arabs, and millions of Arabs to be settled in the half that is left. They never think to have the millions of Arabs return to where they say their homeland is, they want them to settle where the Jews homeland is.

Scumbags.


13 posted on 08/26/2004 9:43:33 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Cinnamon Girl

Didn't Dr. Rice advocate Israel returning to the 1967 borders in an article last week?


14 posted on 08/26/2004 9:44:33 PM PDT by TomGuy (After 20 years in the Senate, all Kerry has to run on is 4 months of service in Viet Nam.)
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To: Cinnamon Girl

No, I reckon it's not possible and I am just as sick of
hearing how Jews will vote as I am about the "Catholic"
vote.

Fabulous post, dear FRiend.


15 posted on 08/26/2004 9:47:16 PM PDT by onyx (JohnKerry -- the standard bearer for the unbearable)
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To: Alouette

fyi


16 posted on 08/26/2004 9:55:41 PM PDT by jla (http://www.ronaldreaganmemorial.com/memorial_fund.asp)
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To: Cinnamon Girl

What percentage of Jewish voters would you expect to vote for GW? Fifty percent? Believe me, I would love to see solidarity between conservatives and Jews, but IMO we are talking about a MAJOR socioeconiomic divide, not to mention the difference of opinion regarding the preferable "socioeconomic system of choice" that three years of sensible US-Israel policy is not going to change overnight. IMO, if GW received 35% of the Jewish vote I would be astonished.


17 posted on 08/26/2004 10:02:02 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham
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To: ncfool
...please don't under-estimate the Jewish community in 2004 it just might surprise you.

That would be grand. And I certainly meant no offense to anyone on FR with my opinion. I have Jewish friends who live in Israel and Lebanon who agree with me. Coming together against the new/old threat would be good for all.

18 posted on 08/26/2004 10:05:19 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham
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To: American in Israel
Here ya go
19 posted on 08/26/2004 10:11:12 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham
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To: onyx

So I guess we all just ignore history, huh? Head in sand. Life is good.


20 posted on 08/26/2004 10:13:17 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham
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To: Cinnamon Girl; yonif; SJackson; Perlstein; Lazamataz; NYC Republican
"We will see Kerry supporters outside the convention next week with "Free Palestine" signs from ANSWER."

The correct response is: give them Syria or Lebanon.

5 Legislative Days Left Until The AWB Expires

21 posted on 08/26/2004 10:20:49 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

Maybe repeating that Jews vote like commies over and over and over on FR gets tiresome because all of us on FR are CONSERVATIVES. And yes, I anticipate a much bigger Jewish vote for Bush this time than last time. You'll see.


22 posted on 08/26/2004 10:22:07 PM PDT by Cinnamon Girl
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham
From the article you linked: The study, sponsored by the National Jewish Democratic Council,

Hmmmmm.... ever wonder which Jews this particular council is talking to? It can't be a random poll, can it? They would have to call about 20,000 people in order to randomly locate enough people who say they are Jewish to fill the survey. So they must be calling Jews from a list. And that list, if coordinated by the National Jewish Democratic Council can't be all that random, can it?

23 posted on 08/26/2004 10:25:47 PM PDT by Cinnamon Girl
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

HaEretz is the most leftist newspaper in Israel. The Television stations announced Gore winning the election but I see Bush in office.

You have to weigh the sources you read, Garbage in, Garbage out you know...


24 posted on 08/26/2004 10:29:12 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Southack
The correct response is: give them Syria or Lebanon.

Nah, give them Syria, Lebanon was given to the Christians. Arafat killed around 100,000 of them when he was setting up a "Palestinian State" up there.

Out of a hundred people, 10 will complain about the genocide of Jews, but out of a thousand, only one about the slaughter of Christians. If they hate the Jews because of their God, the really hate the Christians for their Jewish Messiah.

25 posted on 08/26/2004 10:33:43 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

"O ye of little faith.."


26 posted on 08/26/2004 10:35:38 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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To: Cinnamon Girl

'Palestinian refugees will not be resettled in Israel "

Bush's platform cares more about Israel than he does California! What about the Mexican refugees who are being allowed to settle here? The platform committee has rejected taking a stand on illegal immigration and this is why I will stay home this November. What country is he running for office again?


27 posted on 08/26/2004 10:42:15 PM PDT by seastay
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To: Cinnamon Girl
"We believe that terror attacks against Israelis are part of the same evil as the September 11 attacks against America," it continues. "We recognize Israel's right to defend itself in the face of homicide bombings and other attacks against the people of Israel."

Simple translation: Your our true and trusting friend Israel and we will always work together to insure your sovereignty for the betterment of both our nations.

28 posted on 08/26/2004 10:53:16 PM PDT by EGPWS
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To: seastay
What about the Mexican refugees who are being allowed to settle here?

Start at your state seat, let them do their work first.

Good luck.

29 posted on 08/26/2004 10:57:30 PM PDT by EGPWS
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To: Cinnamon Girl
I wonder if it's possible to have a thread about President Bush on Israel that doesn't include several posts about how most Jews will vote. How about wait and see?

Why? It's a perfectly logical point to discuss in a thread like this. As for "wait and see," that's silly if you're suggesting that Bush will actually do well with the Jewish vote, despite the fact that there's zero evidence for such an expectation. The polls may be skewed but they're certainly not skewed that much. The Jewish vote will go to Kerry in a landslide. It makes no sense, but there it is.

I think it's comparable to the phenomenon of so many older people who vote Democrat just because they were raised to believe Democrats are "for the working man" and Republicans are "for the rich." You could ask a lot of older people their positions on a dozen elements and they'd be staunchly conservative, yet they'll still tell you they're voting Democrat. Same thing here.

Maybe it'll change at some point.

MM

30 posted on 08/26/2004 11:00:57 PM PDT by MississippiMan (Americans should not be sacrificed on the altar of political correctness.)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

It is painfully (for you) obvious
where your head is and it's not sand.


31 posted on 08/26/2004 11:06:00 PM PDT by onyx (JohnKerry -- the standard bearer for the unbearable)
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To: Cinnamon Girl

In their zeal to to bemoan the Jewish vote,
they overlook the GOOD. POTUS's policy
toward Israel is real --- he cannot be accused
of pandering to one of his voting blocks.


32 posted on 08/26/2004 11:10:33 PM PDT by onyx (JohnKerry -- the standard bearer for the unbearable)
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To: EGPWS

"Start at your state seat, let them do their work first"

The federal government has to take a stand, by adopting a resolution for the platform of the ruling party to be against refugees who are being allowed to settle here. CA citizens already unanimously passed a state prop, 187, to stop funding socialist programs for foreign refugees, the Federal government struck it down and has mandated local taxpayers pay, therefore the first step has already been taken.


33 posted on 08/26/2004 11:11:18 PM PDT by seastay
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To: spyone

The American Jews "tend" to be Democrats. I don't know why.


34 posted on 08/26/2004 11:11:50 PM PDT by television is just wrong
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To: television is just wrong

Iwish he would take the same stand wit illegal aliens in this country. We have a right not to be overtaken by people who are here for entitlements and welfare benefits at taxpayers expense.

We protect borders all over the planet with our military, but we cannot protect our own.


35 posted on 08/26/2004 11:13:11 PM PDT by television is just wrong
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To: seastay
the Federal government struck it down and has mandated local taxpayers pay, therefore the first step has already been taken.

Perhaps emphasis should be placed upon the branch of federal government you are referring to.

THEN, vote wisely in November at a federal level as to who you feel will be best suited to appoint to THAT branch of government so your beloved state can take care of her issues without the restraint being imposed now, with a Senate willing to appoint!

George Bush is President of our country, and a fine foreign policy designer.

Look to the Senate and Congress (and choose wisely) to take care of domestic issues, not the President!

36 posted on 08/26/2004 11:22:53 PM PDT by EGPWS
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To: spyone

I doubt you'll see much change in the "Jewish vote"..
They are as diverse as any other segment of the population.

You have the smart Jews, the stupid Jews, the Marxist Jews, the Bush hating Jews, the Hollywood Jews, etc.....

Here in America, I fear we have more than our share of the Stupid, Marxist, Bush hating and Hollywood Jews...

Semper Fi


37 posted on 08/26/2004 11:31:28 PM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek...But I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: ncfool
My Jewish friends in the midwest are Bush supporters. I spoke to a business associate in Philly yesterday and he surprised me when he told me he was for Bush.

Well since you have presented anecdotal evidence I might as well add my 2¢ from so. CA.

This is hearsay, however, its from my mother so for me its good as first hand.

Two months ago, my mother went to the cemetery with a very dear and liberal friend that happens to be a Jew to visit her departed mother. My mother’s friend at the gravesite, prayed/asked her mother to make sure that GWB was elected for the sake of the USA and the world. My mother is still in shock since her friend is a long time dim and liberal.

One thing about polls (post #19) people tend to respond with traditional/stereotypical answers to strangers. Especially when they are of a identifiable group.

Question for anyone in the know. Do Jews worship their ancestors? Since I am of Japanese decent I though we (Orientals) were the only ones who worshiped their ancestors.

38 posted on 08/26/2004 11:41:51 PM PDT by Aquakat (Support our Troops)
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To: EGPWS

"Look to the Senate and Congress (and choose wisely) to take care of domestic issues, not the President!"

That would be great if only the president would abide and stay out of CA domestic issues, by not offering amnesty to domestic lawbreakers. Ironically he can takes a stand against Palestinian immigrating in Israel, a nation that he is not even an elected official at all? I am sorry , I don't get the logic here, the platform of the for the president of the United States can be concerned about refugees in Israel and not California?.

This will be the first republican platform to not adopt a resolution against illegal immigration, while actually offering amnesty, fine, if the president wants to pay for these things out of his budget, but its the local tax payer that will be left with the bills from his domestic amnesty plans!


39 posted on 08/26/2004 11:49:51 PM PDT by seastay
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To: seastay
by not offering amnesty to domestic lawbreakers.

BJ Clinton was the last POTUS to give amnesty to law breakers.

Are you a Kerry for President fan, or are you just outspoken to the negative through frustration?

40 posted on 08/27/2004 12:02:14 AM PDT by EGPWS
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To: Cinnamon Girl

This Jew is voting Bush.


41 posted on 08/27/2004 12:21:27 AM PDT by West Coast Conservative
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To: ncfool
And Ed Koch is voting and supporting Bush, too.
42 posted on 08/27/2004 2:02:43 AM PDT by Dec31,1999 (www.protestwarrior.com)
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To: Cinnamon Girl
From June 5, 2004 in San Francisco Ca:

Viva Palistina???

ANSWER Communist March and Anti- American Rally.

They will be...and already are...in NYC in force as they were on the Left Coast.

Hopefully the Police will do the right thing.

They were prepared, but the kids arrested thought it was just a fun time.

And why not?

They baited the cops for about an hour before they "arrested" the terrorist supporters.

And then they let them go...

The Protest Warriors got a few jabs in.

With their signs.

And the Israelis were there too, protected by the Cops.

They just don't get it though.

Ironic isn't it that the ONLY place that Arabs and Muslims have any vestige of peace and safety and rights is in the country of Israel...which they HATE!

43 posted on 08/27/2004 2:08:08 AM PDT by Syncro
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To: Cinnamon Girl
Even if all our American Jews supported the President, there are only some 6 million of them. The rats have an unlimited number of dead constituents. That is my greatest fear.

Still, I should love to see Bush win their votes. I believe he has more to be a worthy alley and friend to Israel.

44 posted on 08/27/2004 2:12:52 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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To: MJY1288
"This is leadership plain and simple. President Bush is not afraid to take a stand, and everytime he does, it's for what's best for America and freedom"


As a Christian and a conservative voter, I would give President Bush an "A" for his handling of the war and on foreign policy and a ""D"" for his domestic policy; the open border policy, campaign finance reform(definitely an affront of the first amendment), his appointment of liberals to positions of power in government, and using men like the communist senator of Massachusetts to help draft his education bill are all part of the reason for the D on domestic policies which hurt America and our children. It is more important to do that which is right and good for people than to do that which harms people. I believe that if he would simply close the borders, his poll ratings would increase at least 6 points.
45 posted on 08/27/2004 5:08:09 AM PDT by wgeorge2001 (For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.)
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Yehuda; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; ...
If you'd like to be on this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.
46 posted on 08/27/2004 5:08:58 AM PDT by SJackson (You'd be amazed the number of people who wanna introduce themselves to you in the men's room J.Kerry)
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To: Cinnamon Girl

This is just great. Clearly there is a fundamental understanding that the so-called "right of return" is nothing more than a plan to destroy Israel. I am so pleased with these positions.


47 posted on 08/27/2004 5:12:03 AM PDT by Bahbah
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To: Southack

Bingo


48 posted on 08/27/2004 5:18:00 AM PDT by SirLurkedalot (God bless our Veterans!!! And God bless America!!! Molon Labe.)
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To: wgeorge2001

GWB has done more to secure our borders in the past 3 years than all the Presidents over past 40 years combined


49 posted on 08/27/2004 5:20:00 AM PDT by MJY1288 (John Kerry Says he Would Conduct a More Thoughtful and Sensitive War on Terror)
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To: SirLurkedalot

When I saw 'Lebanon' I was thinking 'Jordan'.


50 posted on 08/27/2004 5:22:26 AM PDT by SirLurkedalot (God bless our Veterans!!! And God bless America!!! Molon Labe.)
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