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John O'Neill and John Kerry (by a Vietnam Vet who knew O'Neill in 1971)
AugustaFreePress ^ | Aug. 27, 2004 | Bruce Kesler

Posted on 08/27/2004 12:27:59 AM PDT by FairOpinion

How did we get into this catfight today about John Kerry's war and protest record from 35 and 33 years ago?

A New York Times reporter just called me to ask that. I responded that what happened in 1971 was put behind us by those of us who argued against John Kerry then. We wouldn't be raising it now if John Kerry had not continued to now to misrepresent his service and downplay his protests, touting his short service 35 years ago as his major qualification to lead the U.S. and world in these most perilous times.

It was made by John Kerry, for us Americans, a core issue of integrity.

I said that I would write about what I personally experienced.

(Excerpt) Read more at augustafreepress.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 1971; brucekesler; integrity; kerry; oneill; protest; vietnam
Long, but lots of detail. The author and O'Neill formed the Vietnam Vets for Just Peace organization to counter Kerry in 1971.
1 posted on 08/27/2004 12:27:59 AM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion

I have read so many articles..this one is outstanding.


2 posted on 08/27/2004 12:31:42 AM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry has been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security)
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To: The Mayor; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; Mo1; Howlin

PING


3 posted on 08/27/2004 12:33:30 AM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry has been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security)
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To: FairOpinion

BTTT


4 posted on 08/27/2004 12:44:40 AM PDT by nicotinefiend (Proud of my son...a Marine.)
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To: nicotinefiend

Hannity should get this guy on his show too.


5 posted on 08/27/2004 12:45:25 AM PDT by FairOpinion (FIGHT TERRORISM! VOTE BUSH/CHENEY 2004.)
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To: FairOpinion

I agree. Positive comments about Mr. O'Neil help, considering the Dem's threats to slime the Swift Vets.


6 posted on 08/27/2004 12:53:17 AM PDT by nicotinefiend (Proud of my son...a Marine.)
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To: MEG33; AFPhys; prairiebreeze; onyx; Texasforever; CyberAnt; BigSkyFreeper; Tamsey; ...

FYI Ping


7 posted on 08/27/2004 12:54:08 AM PDT by Mo1 (FR NEWS ALERT .... John Kerry over dosed on Botox and thinks he's Bob KerrEy)
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To: FairOpinion

bttt


8 posted on 08/27/2004 12:55:05 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: FairOpinion

Oh No! Vietnam Again? Shame On Us All

Founder of Vietnam Veterans for a Just Peace, which opposed John Kerry in 1971, on why Kerry's run for President has inflamed Vietnam veterans again.

Encinitas, CA (PRWEB) July 14, 2004 -- Most Americans wonder why we're wasting time debating John Kerry's military record from 35-years ago. In this dangerous time when the U.S. faces an enormous challenge in responding to a new world, comparable to that we faced post-World War II, we should instead be seriously debating the future and what to best do now.

I am a Marine Vietnam veteran, with a 4-year old son who is my life. I hugged him and cried on 9/11, and worry daily what the world will be that he enters. Who will lead him, and to what purpose, and at what costs? That is what we should be considering in this presidential year.

Senators Dole and McCain, who endured enormous suffering in previous wars, appeal to put the past behind us. So, why does Kerry's old record elicit such passions?

Unfortunately, while almost all Vietnam vets put Vietnam behind us, went on to build our lives, and are not activists, John Kerry chose to make his time in service the centerpiece of his campaign. Most Americans think this is a trivial issue. It's as if John Kerry's relatively minor credentials as a junior officer for a short time in Vietnam combat seems to be all he can point to as his value for leading the most powerful nation on earth in the current challenges. No one should deny the valor of this service. But, is that what the American people and the citizens of the world should be focused on for the man who will significantly affect our lives and the lives of our children? John Kerry chose to create this election battlefield. So, he must answer for it, and be willing to face the music he wrote about himself.

Thirty-three years ago, I organized the Vietnam Veterans for a Just Peace in reaction to Kerry's organization Vietnam Veterans Against the War. John O'Neill and others joined me, and with the support of tens of thousands of Vietnam veterans, we rebutted Kerry's charges that we were all war criminals. Literally, no one was defending us, many Americans were discouraged by the charges, and we young Vietnam veterans were suffering horribly from discrimination in our efforts to get on with our lives.

Thirty-three years later, the surprise emergence of John Kerry as candidate and his centerpiecing of his Vietnam service stirred many Vietnam veterans to reclaim the image and honor that Kerry besmirched. We knew better. John Kerry continued the past 33-years to consistently misrepresent his activities and the calumny he brought upon us. That led to an enormous groundswell among now middle-aged Vietnam veterans, emerging from every walk of non-political life that we had individually built, to set the record straight.

It is well documented that most of the claims made by Kerry and his Vietnam Veterans Against the War were fraudulent, none of his anti-war vets were willing to provide evidence, and many of the Vietnam Veterans Against the War members had not served in Vietnam. We now know that the true leadership of the vets against was extreme radicals, directed by a Vietnam vet impersonator. Yet, John Kerry has never apologized. Youthful excess and zeal is one thing. Mature hypocrisy is another.

But, clinching the need for our public stand for the Kerry truth is his deceptive pride in it, fouling the perception of us among a new generation of citizens, maybe my son, that enrages so many of us. In April 2001, Kerry wrote that, "We returned home to an America that was indifferent, even hostile. There were no parades, only nightmares. Veterans were spat upon, called baby-killers…" Yet, he continues to not apologize for his leading role in creating just that hostile atmosphere or exploiting it now. Indeed, in a disturbing pattern, only in March 2004 after exposure by those who served with him did Kerry's current National Coordinator of Veterans for John Kerry admit that his own published charge of atrocities is false.

We are not Republican stooges, as Kerry accuses any who oppose him. The proportion of Democrat vets is similar to the general population. We are simply pissed off and, once again, we are forced to stand up for ourselves, by ourselves, and yearn to fade back into our hard-built peaceful lives. We merely ask that America demand honesty of John Kerry, honest consideration of who has really demonstrated the public integrity to lead us, and hope for meaningful debate over our challenging future. Getting the staged uniforms out of his campaign commercials immediately would be the first critical step. Shame on us all Americans if we do not unite to demand this.

Bruce Kesler left graduate school to enlist in the Marine Corps, serving as a Sergeant in Vietnam in 1969-70. Since, he has been a financial executive for Fortune 100 companies, and currently owns an employee benefits firm.

Bruce N. Kesler
1727 Orange Blossom Way
Encinitas, CA 92024
760-942-1759
BNKSD1@aol.com



9 posted on 08/27/2004 12:58:28 AM PDT by dennisw (Allah FUBAR!)
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To: FairOpinion
To read the latest on the Franchurian Candidate's bizzare exploits, click the picture, goto "last," and work backwards:

If you would like to help the Swift Boat Vets ( as I have, and I urge all to do-- even a few dollars will help ) kindly click on this logo:


If, perchance, the top "click the pic" link is not visible, click here:

-John Kerry- some selected, informative links...--


Judge for yourself- see the SwiftVet ads here:

 Swift Boat Ad #3: Kerry's Own Shipmate Calls Kerry on Lie
 The video
The first two ads:
 http://www2.swiftvets.com/index.php?topic=Ads

10 posted on 08/27/2004 1:02:30 AM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the Trackball into the Sunset...)
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To: dennisw

bttt


11 posted on 08/27/2004 1:29:23 AM PDT by malia (---if we wait until the threat is imminent, we will have waited too long.)
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To: dennisw

Excellent.It's about truth and to the degree it gets personal is the degree by which kerry-dems discard truth.


12 posted on 08/27/2004 2:08:17 AM PDT by noodler
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To: Mo1

Another great article among many in this vein. Thanks for the ping.


13 posted on 08/27/2004 2:22:34 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Real gun control is - all shots inside the ten ring)
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To: FairOpinion

We wouldn't be raising it now if John Kerry had not continued now to misrepresent his service and downplay his protests, touting his short service 35 years ago as his major qualification to lead the U.S. and world in these most perilous times.

I mean really, when you think about it, isn't that ridiculous?


14 posted on 08/27/2004 3:17:31 AM PDT by garylmoore (WWJD)
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To: Mo1

thanks for the heads up


15 posted on 08/27/2004 4:45:01 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (sKerry is sKrewwy.)
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To: FairOpinion; Victoria Delsoul; kstewskis; Jemian; Molly Pitcher; Miss Marple; kassie; kayak; ...
Thanks...

Outstanding!

16 posted on 08/27/2004 4:48:17 AM PDT by Northern Yankee (Freedom Needs A Soldier!)
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To: Northern Yankee

Yes!!


17 posted on 08/27/2004 4:59:51 AM PDT by lysie
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To: FairOpinion

Great article. BUMP


18 posted on 08/27/2004 5:06:33 AM PDT by truthkeeper (Yeah, I have a 1998 signup date. So?)
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To: FairOpinion

Richard the Dick Holbrooke is on Fox & Friends right now calling Steve Doocey a liar! "Senator Kerry volunteered when his opponents avoided service." "He saved lives and fought in the most dangerous area of Vietnam," etc. etc. etc.


19 posted on 08/27/2004 5:21:19 AM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: arasina

Kerry was drafted, tried to get a deferrment for college, was rejected by the draft board & then joined the navy. "Volunteered?" HA!


20 posted on 08/27/2004 5:25:56 AM PDT by madison10
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To: Howlin; eddie willers; cajungirl; wirestripper; Southflanknorthpawsis; Peach; prairiebreeze; ...

Kerry and the Vets ping...


21 posted on 08/27/2004 5:29:52 AM PDT by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: Interesting Times

BTTT!!!!!!


22 posted on 08/27/2004 5:32:56 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: Interesting Times; doug from upland
Kerry and the Vets ping...

OH that is just begging to be a Doug song.

< Best Elton John Falsetto>
K-k-k-k-kerry and the vetsssssssssssss

23 posted on 08/27/2004 5:36:22 AM PDT by commish (Freedom Tastes Sweetest to Those Who Have Fought to Preserve It)
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To: Interesting Times
The liberals who run the Kerry campaign are calling it "character assassination".

I may agree with them.

The swifties are killing off the character of the lies and slander of a man bent on lying to America in order to gain power - in particular, power over the same military that he falsely accused in the past.

Character assassination? You bet. And at the right time, too.

24 posted on 08/27/2004 5:41:27 AM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: FairOpinion

"I'm going to bring truth and responsibility back to the White House."

A BIG LOL! This should be used in a Bush ad.


25 posted on 08/27/2004 5:43:41 AM PDT by nuconvert (Everyone has a photographic memory. Some don't have film.)
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To: Interesting Times
Many FReepers are requesting these EXPOSE KERRY'S FRAUD SWIFT BOAT VETERANS FOR TRUTH stickers.

They are being made by a fellow FReeper disabled vet who has a bone to pick with Kerry, like we all do!
Large $20 (24" Wide 12" Tall) like mine
Small $10 (12" Wide 6" Tall)
Profits go to SwiftVets.com

FReep mail for details.

26 posted on 08/27/2004 6:12:10 AM PDT by Chieftain (Support the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth and expose Hanoi John's FRAUD!)
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To: Interesting Times
" ... the overwhelming majority of Vietnam veterans and Americans bitterly resent the charge from the left that they are all war criminals. ... It is not a crime to be American and young, but it is if one adds to that ignorant, foolish or irrational dialogue as citizens of a democratic government. The antiwar veterans are not ignorant of the facts; they merely use them to form an army of young people marching to their drums, exploiting issues, fears and people for their own ends. That is the crime."


This is what the "LEFT" does not comprehend. These louses still believe that the end justifies the means. Sadar has such a great example to emulate in observing the methods used by JFKerry and his "commie" gang.
27 posted on 08/27/2004 6:16:08 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Interesting Times

Thanks for the ping!


28 posted on 08/27/2004 7:05:36 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: FairOpinion
Excellent read.
My favorite passage:

The John O'Neill I knew in 1971 was a humble, sweet, decent guy. It was not until recently that I even found out he'd been tops at Annapolis, and came from a distinguished Naval family. He slept in my mother's roach-infested slum apartment in Brooklyn without any comment (probably a little better than the digs we had in Vietnam). John O'Neill, today, still seems the guy I knew then.

On March 19, 2004, John O'Neill and I had our first contact since those days, when I Googled and called him. (snip) We then chuckled at how ignorant we were in 1971 about John Kerry's war and protest record, and were only beginning to find out. In 1971, we were interested in the reputation of Vietnam veterans, and secondly on leaving a viable South Vietnam behind.

29 posted on 08/27/2004 7:20:13 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: commish

Where were you yesterday? I already posted it. I'll go find the link for you.


30 posted on 08/27/2004 7:30:34 AM PDT by doug from upland (John Kerry cried and asked TaRAYaz to make the SwiftVets stop)
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To: FairOpinion

Excellent read.

I sent it and John O'Neills op-ed for Wall Street Journal to Drudge.

I hope he links to them.


31 posted on 08/27/2004 7:31:12 AM PDT by Republican Red (Is that a classified document in your pants Sandy or are you just glad to see me?)
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To: commish
Actually, two days ago --- BENNIE AND THE JETS
32 posted on 08/27/2004 7:32:52 AM PDT by doug from upland (John Kerry cried and asked TaRAYaz to make the SwiftVets stop)
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To: FairOpinion

I sent the URL for the story to Chuck Colson (through his prison ministry), since he is named a few times in the article. Don't suppose he'll actually see the e-mail or the article though.


33 posted on 08/27/2004 7:34:18 AM PDT by ride the whirlwind (Sorry, Mr. Kerry....In the parlance popularized by your wife, you can just "shove it.")
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To: FairOpinion

Since this was written in response to an inquiry from the New York Times, it will be reprinted there, right?


34 posted on 08/27/2004 7:46:30 AM PDT by js1138 (Speedy architect of perfect labyrinths.)
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To: FairOpinion

Excellent....has not seen anything on the VVJP until this one......Thanks for posting!


35 posted on 08/27/2004 8:11:39 AM PDT by JulieRNR21 (One good term deserves another! Take W-04....Across America!)
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To: FairOpinion

bump TO SUPPORT THE NEW SWIFT VETS AD AND GEORGE BUSH... http://swift2.he.net/~swift2/gardner2.mpg


36 posted on 08/27/2004 8:14:58 AM PDT by freddiedavis
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To: Interesting Times; Howlin
Off Topic ...

Kerry has John Glenn out giving a speech about the Swiftboat Vets & POWS and how some of them had to resign from the Bush Campaign

FNC cut of the speech after Glenn made those comments
37 posted on 08/27/2004 9:37:39 AM PDT by Mo1 (FR NEWS ALERT .... John Kerry over dosed on Botox and thinks he's Bob KerrEy)
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To: Northern Yankee
The John O'Neill I knew in 1971 was a humble, sweet, decent guy. It was not until recently that I even found out he'd been tops at Annapolis, and came from a distinguished Naval family. He slept in my mother's roach-infested slum apartment in Brooklyn without any comment (probably a little better than the digs we had in Vietnam). John O'Neill, today, still seems the guy I knew then.

Great article, thanks. This says a lot about O'Neill.

38 posted on 08/27/2004 12:27:38 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul (Kerry: "YES, I committed the same kind of atrocities as thousands of other soldiers have committed")
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To: Victoria Delsoul
I knew you'd appreciate it.

As I said earlier on another thread, as a Veteran we would never, ever think of dishonoring our country, or our buddies that we served with, by making up stories of atrocities.

A sense of honor governs how we live our lives.

It's that simple.

39 posted on 08/27/2004 12:42:02 PM PDT by Northern Yankee (Freedom Needs A Soldier!)
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To: Northern Yankee

Amen. Well said.


40 posted on 08/27/2004 12:49:17 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul (Kerry: "YES, I committed the same kind of atrocities as thousands of other soldiers have committed")
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To: Victoria Delsoul
Thanks...

Have a great weekend.

41 posted on 08/27/2004 12:52:47 PM PDT by Northern Yankee (Freedom Needs A Soldier!)
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To: Interesting Times
THANKS FOR THE PING!


Want to join in the fun? Click the logo to donate to Swift Boat Veterans for Truth!

42 posted on 08/27/2004 3:46:49 PM PDT by Smartass (BUSH & CHENEY 2004 Si vis pacem, para bellum - Por el dedo de Dios se escribió)
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To: FairOpinion

Google Usenet Search: Unfit for Command Epilogue
http://tinyurl.com/6s6jn


43 posted on 10/22/2004 3:23:26 PM PDT by RBMN
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