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SECURITY NET SNARES TIMES SQUARE VAN (2 Pakistanis on FBI Watch List)
NY Post ^ | 8/27/04 | LARRY CELONA and ANDY GELLER

Posted on 08/27/2004 5:31:08 AM PDT by jimbo123

The heightened security for the Republican convention resulted in four Pakistani students from St. John's University being detained in Times Square last night.

The four, who were in a burgundy van, were taken into custody shortly after 5 p.m. outside the Marriott Marquis hotel on Broadway and West 45th Street after cops thought they were acting suspiciously.

They were questioned for at least seven hours at the Midtown North precinct on West 54th Street while anxious relatives waited outside. Police sources said two of the students were on an FBI watch list.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 200408; 20040826; 2004election; gopconvention; homelandsecurity; hotel; marriott; marriottmarquishotel; nyc; rnc; rncconvention; sju; stjohnsu; terror; van
Off to Gitmo for the lot.
1 posted on 08/27/2004 5:31:08 AM PDT by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123

Well I wonder what was in the van?


2 posted on 08/27/2004 5:36:38 AM PDT by stockpirate (Real issue is Kerry attended meeting where VVAW discussed killing 7 US Senators! 11/71)
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To: stockpirate

Probably not a copier.


3 posted on 08/27/2004 5:38:13 AM PDT by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123

I was sitting in the lobby on the 8th floor of Marriott Marquis last Saturday. The Marquis is 1 of the largest hotels in Manhattan, huge mult-level underground parking lot and an Atrium in the center of the building that is 40+ stories high. It just seems like a building that could be brought down easier then most Manhattan skyscapers.


4 posted on 08/27/2004 5:38:16 AM PDT by hflynn
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To: jimbo123

There was a bomb and 12 AK-47's in the van but there is no evidence of terrorism. < /sarcasm >


5 posted on 08/27/2004 5:40:23 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: hflynn

The Marquis should put up concrete barriers immediately and ban all cars from the lower level. Those Pakis were doing initial surveillance for an attack. Bet on it.


6 posted on 08/27/2004 5:43:59 AM PDT by jimbo123
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To: hflynn

Plus, they were arrested at 5pm. This area is jam-packed with tourists at this time.


7 posted on 08/27/2004 5:48:13 AM PDT by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123

Right. The hotel is in the heart of the theater district, 1900 rooms and is 1 block wide 45th to 46th street.


8 posted on 08/27/2004 5:55:27 AM PDT by hflynn
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To: jimbo123

Nevermind the possible homeland security implications. WTF are college students at St. John's doing in midtown Manhattan with a van? I went to grad school in manhattan and I can't think of a single student that had a car nevermind a van.


9 posted on 08/27/2004 6:08:06 AM PDT by blanknoone (Republicans need to acknowledge that campaign finance reform failed and start setting up 527s.)
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To: blanknoone

One of the Pakis borrowed the van from his father telling him they needed it to move a copier.


10 posted on 08/27/2004 6:32:15 AM PDT by jimbo123
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So we allow jihadis on a watch list to just attend college.

Then what's the point of these lists?


11 posted on 08/27/2004 8:42:42 AM PDT by swarthyguy
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Aw come-mon

They just forgot where they parked their cabs.

Nothin to see here, move on!


12 posted on 08/27/2004 8:45:13 AM PDT by aShepard
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I would hope that the Pakis on the watch list are being surveilled and their phone calls and internet correspondence are being monitored.


13 posted on 08/27/2004 8:58:58 AM PDT by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123

That leads one to believe that there is more to this bust than they are saying. Sleepers.


14 posted on 08/27/2004 9:00:52 AM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: swarthyguy

No other media outlets in NYC are reporting the story. I think the police were waiting for the Pakis to make their move.


15 posted on 08/27/2004 9:03:53 AM PDT by jimbo123
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But, but, I thought the Pakis were our allies!


16 posted on 08/27/2004 9:05:28 AM PDT by wagoneer (Costs a grand every time you fix it.)
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This could have been a "dry run" or "probe" of defenses. They were reconnoitering our security measures.

Also, apparently it has become fun for Muslim teenagers to tease our security. We need a new statute making it a defense to prosecution for assaulting a fake terrorist.

17 posted on 08/27/2004 9:11:35 AM PDT by bayourod ("All boats came to the aid of PCF-3, except one: John Kerry’s boat. Kerry fled. " Van Odell)
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Jihadi boards earlier this year also asked sympathetic Muslims to overload our system with false alarms, aka, videotaping, etc. Get our guys chasing too many false leads.


18 posted on 08/27/2004 9:12:50 AM PDT by swarthyguy
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Two of these Pakis were on the FBI watch list and the other two were unknown to the authorities until now. This hotel is probably the most vulnerable in NYC to possible car and truck bombs.


19 posted on 08/27/2004 9:29:59 AM PDT by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123
He said his son was a devout Muslim...

All the more reason...

20 posted on 08/27/2004 9:34:00 AM PDT by csvset
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To: swarthyguy
P.S. Al Qaeda blew up a Marriott in Jarkata, Indonesia a little over a year ago:


21 posted on 08/27/2004 9:34:03 AM PDT by jimbo123
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From a terrorism story today in us.rediff.com:

As one (Pakistani) quipped: "Every second jihadi I know has a computer and is always busy checking information on buildings in the US--their height & width and their possible vulnerable areas--and it is their routine practice to make plans with computer graphics to bring down US buildings to the ground."


22 posted on 08/27/2004 12:58:48 PM PDT by penguino
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To: jimbo123
I wonder how long they will hold them??

Or is this another catch and release like fish??

23 posted on 08/27/2004 1:59:34 PM PDT by WestCoastGal (Jr "It's now or never or wreck it" I'm man enough to admit I made a bad mistake. BRISTOL BABY !!!!)
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There were on a terror watch list...hopefully, we still have them.


24 posted on 08/28/2004 7:30:09 AM PDT by milford421
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Police sources said two of the students were on an FBI watch list.

We have turned into a country of politically correct wimps. A watch list? Why isn't this a deport list? Oh, that list doesn't work either.

Immediately following 9/11, we should have ordered all citizens of muslim countries to leave the the United States immediately. Future entry into the US should have been barred indefintiely. Illegal immigrants of all nations should have been deported immediately. The border with Mexico should have been secured. (Personally, I like the idea of motion sensitive machine guns - you cross our border illegal - you die. No second chances. I should note I have no problem with legal immigration with Mexico and other nations, but Muslim terrorists are crossing the border.) That leaves our northern border open. Perhaps we don't need machine guns on the Canadian border - Muslim terrorists tend to stand out a bit more in the middle of North Dakota.

25 posted on 08/28/2004 7:52:18 AM PDT by PattonReincarnated (Rebuild the Temple)
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To: AppyPappy
There was a bomb and 12 AK-47's in the van but there is no evidence of terrorism. < /sarcasm >

A "Kerry in 04" bumper sticker was found on the van so they were let go.

26 posted on 08/28/2004 9:52:18 AM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham
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To: swarthyguy
Jihadi boards earlier this year also asked sympathetic Muslims to overload our system with false alarms, aka, videotaping, etc. Get our guys chasing too many false leads.

Fine. Then we should deport every one of these vermin that so much as farts too loudly. Any suspicious behavior + muslim = immediate deportation.

27 posted on 08/28/2004 10:05:04 AM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham
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