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TORY leader Michael Howard has been barred from the White House
The SUN ^ | 08/27/04 | TREVOR KAVANAGH

Posted on 08/27/2004 7:49:05 PM PDT by Pikamax

Bush: Stay away Howard By TREVOR KAVANAGH Political Editor

TORY leader Michael Howard has been barred from the White House and told he will never meet President George Bush, it emerged last night.

The bombshell ban was slapped on Mr Howard after he called for Tony Blair to quit over the Iraq War.

And it was reinforced last month when he said he would have vetoed military action if he had known the full facts about Iraq’s WMD arsenal.

Last night, a spokesman for Mr Howard did not even try to deny the Tory leader had been banned from meeting the President.

He said: “I don’t want to comment on that.”

The wrath of the President was transmitted to Mr Howard’s office in a furious phone call from White House political chief Karl Rove in February.

It followed Mr Howard’s call for Mr Blair to step down as PM.

What particularly upset the White House was Mr Howard’s comment: “If I were Prime Minister I would seriously be considering my position.”

They were also angered when the Tory leader accused the PM of “serious dereliction of duty”.

Mr Rove, who speaks with the President’s full authority, said: “You can forget about meeting the President full stop. Don’t bother coming, you are not meeting him.”

The conversation was relayed to Mr Howard who was unmoved.

Far from backing down, a defiant Mr Howard stepped up his attack over the so-called “dodgy dossier” and the 45-minute warning of attack by Iraqi WMD.

Referring to Tory support for the Commons vote which led to war, he said: “If I knew then what I know now, I could not have voted for the resolution.”

His comment to the Sunday Times was widely seen as an unforced error.

But it now emerges that Mr Howard was accurately reflecting his criticism not just of Mr Blair but of Mr Bush as well.

His stand shook top Tories, including party chairman Liam Fox who is flying to New York in a bid to patch up the rift at the Republican convention.

Anger ... President Bush

And it has deeply damaged the decades-long alliance between the Republicans and the Conservative Party.

Senior US Right-wingers blame Mr Howard for undermining the coalition in Iraq and say they are privately rooting for a Labour victory in the next election.

A Tory source said: “They see Tony Blair as a true ally against terror and the Tories as a bunch of w*****s.”

The stand-off is particularly surprising in view of Mr Howard’s long standing admiration for America.

He set up the Atlantic Partnership, a think-tank which welcomes regular visits from Republican figures.

Senior Tories are amazed that the White House fury has remained a secret for so long.

One said: “I am astonished it hasn’t come out before.”

But Mr Howard’s spokesman insisted he had not been barred from the Republican Convention.

He added: “He never intended to attend the convention.”

The revelations could not have come at a worse time for the Tories.

A new poll showed them still scoring only 34 per cent, the same as Labour, with little prospect of a breakthrough.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: michaelhoward; tonyblair; tory
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1 posted on 08/27/2004 7:49:05 PM PDT by Pikamax
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To: Pikamax
Sounds more like a gossip column to me.
2 posted on 08/27/2004 7:54:17 PM PDT by atomicpossum (If there are two Americas, John Edwards isn't qualified to lead either of them.)
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To: Pikamax; All

DAMN Pikamax beside that what did Michael Howard do to be in Barney doghouse beside that

Calling Blair to quit

OH MAN Dubya is one tick off Texan tonight


3 posted on 08/27/2004 7:56:01 PM PDT by SevenofNine ("Not everybody , in it, for truth, justice, and the American way,"=Det Lennie Briscoe)
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To: atomicpossum

Yeah me too, it is a british rag, and the sun at that. I take everything I read from overseas with a grain of salt and lime, and a jigger of tequila in case.


4 posted on 08/27/2004 7:57:13 PM PDT by aft_lizard (I actually voted for John Kerry before I voted against him)
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To: Pikamax

What a load of crap. This is total BS and worthy of page 23 of the Enquirer


5 posted on 08/27/2004 8:03:11 PM PDT by MJY1288 (John Kerry Says he Would Conduct a More Thoughtful and Sensitive War on Terror)
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To: Pikamax
The wrath of the President was transmitted to Mr Howard’s office in a furious phone call from White House political chief Karl Rove in February.

Howard may well be under such a ban. But you could bet the farm that Karl Rove didn't make this call.

6 posted on 08/27/2004 8:04:26 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Pikamax

I would be extremely upset with President Bush if he snuggled up to Tony Blair's enemies! The President is absolutely right about this.


7 posted on 08/27/2004 8:07:48 PM PDT by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: atomicpossum

I doubt it was this dramatic, but Howard does deserve punishment.


8 posted on 08/27/2004 8:09:55 PM PDT by Pikamax
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To: Pikamax

The man would not be welcome here. If he comes to the convention, he's going to be a pretty lonely guy. We don't agree with Tony Blair's policies in general but the man has been a rock when it comes to doing the right thing.


9 posted on 08/27/2004 8:15:31 PM PDT by McGavin999 (If Kerry can't deal with the "Republican Attack Machine" how is he going to deal with Al Qaeda)
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To: MJY1288

No it isn't Mike, at least not the part about Howard not supporting the Iraqi war, and telling Blair to step down. He's been a real weenie.


10 posted on 08/27/2004 8:16:53 PM PDT by McGavin999 (If Kerry can't deal with the "Republican Attack Machine" how is he going to deal with Al Qaeda)
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To: Pikamax

The next UK elections are win-win. The Tories naturally are taking a contrary position vis a vis the Iraq war, in order to callously cash in on the Labour weakness. If Labour abandons Blair, Labour loses, Tories win, conservatives are in charge. Labour follows Blair, Labour clings to a narrow majority, Blair is the US' and Bush' strongest ally. Ticks off the EU.


11 posted on 08/27/2004 8:17:30 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Unlike some people, I have a profile. Okay, maybe it's a little large...)
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To: Pikamax
Referring to Tory support for the Commons vote which led to war, he said: "If I knew then what I know now, I could not have voted for the resolution."

Not even Kerry has gone this far. I guess Howard likes having his pilots get shot at by scumbag dictators like Hussein.

12 posted on 08/27/2004 8:18:59 PM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: okie01

And you can bet he didn't say "full stop," period. ;-)


13 posted on 08/27/2004 8:21:21 PM PDT by Tom_Busch (Vote Bush/Cheney in 2004)
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To: SunkenCiv

But would you trust any "conservative" that got into office on the premise that the Iraqi War should not have been fought?


14 posted on 08/27/2004 8:21:56 PM PDT by Truthsearcher
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To: Pikamax
A Tory source said: “They see Tony Blair as a true ally against terror and the Tories as a bunch of w*****s.”

Sums up my position well.

IMO, Howard and the Tories are behaving no differently than the Dems in our states. They sense the ability to create a wedge issue between the voters and the PM, and have run it. It doesn't matter that we are in a WOT, political opportunism is rearing its ugly head.

I do not favor Labour ideology but the Tories have disgusted me by mirroring Dem strategy. Blair is the only one I have a degree of respect for at this time.

15 posted on 08/27/2004 8:23:43 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: McGavin999

No, I was talking about him being barred from the White House by Karl Rove. Bush would fire Karl Rove in a New York second if he made a call like that


16 posted on 08/27/2004 8:24:53 PM PDT by MJY1288 (John Kerry Says he Would Conduct a More Thoughtful and Sensitive War on Terror)
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To: MJY1288

Oh, that part I agree. I seriously doubt Rove would be involved in that. However, I have no doubts that there has been no invitations issued to Mr. Howard.


17 posted on 08/27/2004 8:26:20 PM PDT by McGavin999 (If Kerry can't deal with the "Republican Attack Machine" how is he going to deal with Al Qaeda)
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To: McGavin999
An invitation is one thing, but barring someone from the British Parliament is another. President Bush is simply not that way. If he can roll out the red carpet for people like Hillary Clinton and her Puppet Bill, as well as Jimmy Carter, he would have no problem affording Mr Howard the courtesy that is customary for any visiting foreign dignitary, even if he publicly trashed him.

George W. Bush has more class in his baby finger than all of his detractors combined

18 posted on 08/27/2004 8:32:24 PM PDT by MJY1288 (John Kerry Says he Would Conduct a More Thoughtful and Sensitive War on Terror)
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To: xm177e2

Bingo. Labour vs Tory ideological compatibility with the GOP gets trumped by the monumental resolve under pressure of Mr. Tony Blair, whose picture is in the dictionary next to the word "stalwart".

The Tories are off the reservation on this. Bush will and should do all he can to have Labour win as long as Tony is PM. When he chooses to step down, then we will return to the Tories.

Tony has more than earned it.


19 posted on 08/27/2004 8:35:58 PM PDT by Owen
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To: Pikamax
A Tory source said: "They see Tony Blair as a true ally against terror and the Tories as a bunch of w*****s."

BTW, when did the word 'wussies' become an unmentionable in British papers -- and in the Sun no less.

20 posted on 08/27/2004 8:47:34 PM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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