Lt. Gen. Thomas McInerney (Ret.)
Posted on 08/28/2004 2:48:52 AM PDT by beyond the sea
Vietnam veteran-turned-military analyst Lt. Gen. Thomas McInerney said Thursday that John Kerry's 1971 testimony before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee portraying Vietnam soldiers as "monsters" would have been consider ground for treason charges in an earlier day.
"There is deep, deep anger for a man who, if he had done this during World War II, would have been tried for treason," McInerney told ABC Radio's John Batchelor.
Noting that two of his brothers also served in Vietnam, where one died, McInerney said, "He betrayed us . . . He betrayed not only my personal family but my [West Point] classmates and all the veterans that were over there."
Referring to the portion of Kerry's testimony where he accused his fellow soldiers of routinely committing barbaric acts on Vietnamese civilians, McInerney told Batchelor, "We did not do those things that he claimed that we did."
McInerney said Kerry's testimony was largely responsible for creating the negative stereotype of Vietnam veterans, noting that many of his fellow soldiers were greeted "babykillers" when they returned from the war.
On Kerry's decision to make his Vietnam service the centerpiece of his presidential campaign, McInerney said, "He picked a scab that he should not have."
And now Kerry is doing it again. Kerry is lower than low.
Any true and accurate profile of this "man" would show a seriously psychologically ill human.
And we thought the last Democrat in the presidency was sick!
I hope so. But Dems aren't FOR Kerry as much as they are against Bush. I think the the Dems would acually vote for Jeffrey Dahmer, just to get Bush out.
GLUB GLub Glub glub glubzzzzzzzzz
Sank 33 years ago.
Artificial reef now.
Is The Queen of Darkness, Hillary Rotten , Her Lowness, Her Royal Thighness, Chappaqua Rose, The Lady in Pink, Rodham Hussein, The Fat Bottomed Girl in the wings if the ship sinks. Is that one of the reasons McCurry was sent into Kerry's camp?
I'm so grateful that Gen. McInerney is speaking out against this traitorous creature! Hopefully, men of his stature calling a spade a spade will open a few Demonrat eyes!
Woo! Can I get an amen??
Amen!
Lt. Gen. Thomas McInerney (Ret.)
One good guy!
That's for sure. A few hundred thousand more like that and we would get our country back.
Kerry's Vietman service is dominating the news and there is no doubt he lied about his medals, his commands, and his fellow soldiers. However, every news source is tying or at least insinutating a tie) this smear to President Bush. We are the choir, we know the truth. Yet every speech by Kerry or his surrogates reiterates the lie - a connection between the President and the SBVFT - and the media is playing these clips over and over. I'm afraid this is becoming the story rather than the facts as presented by the Swift Boat Vets.
and the only reason Kerry wasn't indicted IMO was that there was never a "declaration of war"...
But Kerry's actions and words were treasonous!
No doubt!
Semper Fi,
Kelly
Why?
This is way beyond bewildering. This nation is voting for a new Commander in Chief and Kerry is a total fraud and a traitor. Yet, George Bush acts like he wants Kerry to be president.
I have never been so disgusted.
Bush can't and shouldn't say anything about this issue (the Vietnam service anyway). It's not his fight. If he did make it an issue then the press would have a field day claiming politics as usual. They are saying it now but it rings hollow with everyone but the most ardent Bush hater and they come across that way in the news.
I hope the vast majority of voters will see this guy and his party for what they really are. If Kerry does get elected it will also tell us a bit about our county that we probably don't really want to know but we do need to realize if it's true.
Mr. Kerry's "testimony" was not a courtesy extended by the Committee to the "other side" -- the Committee under Fulbright was the other side!
During Kerry's disparaging, abusive assault on truth and our Republic he was interrupted by applause. The interruptions brought this response from Chairman Fulbright: "I hope you won't interrupt. He is making a very significant statement. Let him proceed."
At the end Fulbright gushed, "I think it is extremely helpful and beneficial to the committee and the country to have you make such a statement."
Who is J. William Fulbright? You youngsters under fifty may not know.
Comparing the Vietnam War to the French experience and how they exited, Fulbright said, "I have personally advocated that this is the best procedure. It is a traditional rather classic procedure of how to end a war that could be called a stalemate, that neither side apparently has the capacity to end by military victory, and which apparently is going to go on for a long time. Speaking only for myself, this seems the more reasonable procedure."
Mr. Kerry responded that the U.S. withdrawal should be immediate, unilateral and "be the earliest possible date." We should quit the stalling, it's our fault, he said.. "I have been to Paris. I have talked with both delegations at the peace talks [he ain't talking about both sides!], that is to say the Democratic Republic of Vietnam and the Provisional Revolutionary Government and of all eight of Madam Binh's points it has been stated time and time again, and was stated by Senator Vance Hartke when he returned from Paris, and it has been stated by many other officials of this Government, if the United States were to set a date for withdrawal the prisoners of war would be returned."
After acknowledging that Congress cannot end the war Fulbright opines "We can, of course, express ourselves in a resolution or we can pass an act which directly affects appropriations which is the most concrete positive way the Congress can express itself."
So here is the the Democratic Republic of Vietnam and the Provisional Revolutionary Government testifying before Congress in the person of Mr. Kerry. They are most welcomed by the Chairman, other members, and far too many all across America.
http://www.nationalreview.com/document/kerry200404231047.asp
Alas, however by 1971 IMO it had already become too late. Thanks mostly to the antics of our press (General Giap's "most valuable guerillas") we encouraged the enemy to keep fighting and we missed the opportunity to end the war (two years?) sooner. It was time to end it -- and the "anti-war" left had their way: the war would end on the Enemy's terms.
I have heard too many conservatives say that we should not be "fighting" the War all over again. As far as the conditions that forced our troops to stand by and watch our Nation surrender here at home -- after all that they had sacrificed and accomplished for our Republic -- yes! we should be fighting to see how it happened and who caused it! We know about human error (no-win policy, etc.) what about TREASON!
Yes, what about treason -- knowing who and how back then JUST MIGHT SAVE OUR BUTTS TODAY!
I agree. I believe the vast majority of DEMs would pull the DEM party lever, if the name beside it was "to be chosen by party leadership after the election."
Yes, they are. And it is working, for the time being. But the DEM party has closer ties to its 527's, and perpetrating the "Bush is connected" meme damages media credibility.
The media won't fall over because it is caught in one big lie. It will take an accumulation. Slowly, but surely, they are setting themselves up for their deserved place of dishonor.
Payback's a be-ach.
You have fallen for the media presentation. Kerry should be proud of his service, but maybe he isn't.
Bush has not demanded or asked that the SBVfT shut up, he has condemned ALL of the 527's as using a loophole in the law, and when pressed by a DEM media, has said "Yes, that ad, and all the others." While I don't agree with CFR, Bush signed it, and put himself in a bit of a box on that one. He has to deal with that box, that he made himself by signing CFR into law, in the political arena.
Bush does not want Kerry to be president. He may or may not know what a fraud Kerry is, I don't know what is in his head. I suspect he has more pressing issues (Iraq, Iran, domestic securit, etc.), and as for the election campaign, he has every intention of beating the DEM party's opponent(s).
Without a doubt, the MSM is our staunchest enemy. They are liberal is journalist's clothing aiding and abetting the left's 527's and Kerry's campaign. Sickening.
Well I'll be dinged! McCurry, the fellow who quite lying for x42, to SPEND TIME WITH HIS FAMILY, is back in the fold trying to verbally dig kerry from the ocean's trench? I guess ole broadbeam and her mate who lives away from her, think the silver tongued mccurry can slather a little decorum and respectability onto the botox boy in order to make him "sound" presendential? Never happen! We all know he was ole broadbeam's chosen one to lose in order to secure her future run for our Whitehouse. She scares the peawaddlin' out of me.
No no no---George W Bush is doing exactly what he should in keeping OUT of the fray. There is nothing he can say that the lib media won't spin on him. If he calls John Kerry a liar, he will pay a HUGE price and in the swing states it very well may cost him the election. This way he looks like a gentleman-what neutral party (the swing voters we want to get) is going to fault a man for being positive? For saying "I am not going to call him a liar." No one. Only those loyal to the president want him to do what we all want to do- stand up in public and scream to the heavens that John Kerry is the biggest d@mn liar that ever had the gall to run for president. So who does Bush really piss off?? HIS BASE. We're all going to vote for him anyway so raising our ire is a price he can afford.
Bush is following a play that John Kerry should have- keep your mouth shut. By bringing up the subject, John Kerry opened the field for comment. Bush opening his mouth would just point the attention back to him, and he wants the attention focused on his opponent who is busy hanging himself with his own rope. (and my heavens is it a sweet thing to see.....)
The communists have been using this tactic for many, many years. We've watched it here in our country since the 1920s and as the "youngsters" of the communists have come to maturity, they continue to practise this. Those who do not know the truth, will never know it, they will believe the lying presstitutes, unless those of us who know the truth speak out. We must, we can no longer be the silent majority.
TAPS.................................................
Not his fight? These two are running for Commander in Chief!
Since when is traitorous activity, filing false reports and fake Purple Hearts not an issue when the person involved is running for Commander in Chief?
Let the press make a field day with it then hold Republicans accountable for countering the socialist press.
This letting the socialists have the whole field to themselves and being afraid of the socialist press has to stop sometime.
This isn't about winnning elections--it is about fighting for our nation. What good is an election won if the nation is lost? The war has been one-sided for years. It is about time the Republicans engage the enemy--the RATs and their establishement, the press, the schools, Hollyweird, all of them.
Stop being so afraid!
If our Commander in Chief is afraid of the press, then Bush does not deserve to be president.
When are the Republicans going to engage the enemy instead of running away? Re your "cost him an election"...
What good is an election won if principles are lost?
What good is an election won if the nation is lost?
The Republicans have stopped fighting for principles years ago. That is why Bush gave Africa $15 billion instead of using that money for national security. That is why we have $8 trillion in debt. That is why we have open borders. That is why we have the Mexican flag next to the American flag in public schools and Spanish is the language taught and used in the class room.
That is why Bush tells decorated Swift Boat vets to shut up while Bush says it is fine and dandy for thousands of anarchists to roam the streets of New York next week calling for Bush's death.
That is why we give billions to nations who call for our death through the IMF, World Bank, etc.
If you don't think principles are important, then you do not believe in the Constitution, free speech and limited government.
Every single memebr here at FR should be demanding that George Bush, through letters, calls to radio and TV stations and their Congressman, allow Kerry's anti-American activities be exposed.
Bush has made a MAJOR blunder by not allowing Kerry's traitorous activities be exposed. Any of you people who are backing Bush's call to silence free speech, and any of you who are afraid of the press might as well raise the white flag now. If you are afraid to fight for principles, then you do not deserve to call yourself a conservative.
bump TO SUPPORT THE NEW SWIFT VETS AD AND GEORGE BUSH... http://swift2.he.net/~swift2/gardner2.mpg
I think McCurry and the other Clintonistas that have recently been dispatched to the Kerry camp are there to gently ensure and preside over Kerry's demise. Hildebeast will keep her powder (if not her crusty pantsuit) dry until '08.
You are dead wrong. A few more months of Bush having "pressing issues" is not more important than a traitor and total socialist being president for the next four years.
I don't care that bush signed CFR; he should have the balls to stand up now and say "I made a major mistake. I should never have signed CFR." There are many like me who would gain greater respect for him if he did.
Trying to silence decorated Vietnam Vets for exposing Kerry is about as outrageous as it gets. Bush can;t be more wrong, and we are responsible to let everybody we can know that.
Oh please! By joining with McCain in condeming all 527s Bush has effectively boxed Kerry in. He knows Kerry will not disavow his 527s so Kerry ends up looking like a hypocrite to most independents and can't effectively criticize Bush on it anymore. It was a brilliant ploy!
Remember, the prize is being reelected, not being idealogically pure.
ping
You are really naive.
The socialists control the press. It is impossible for "Kerry to look like a hypocrite" since the press IS the Democratic Party.
Come back to the real world. We need conservative who can think clearly.
One truth is, it wasn't just John Kerry.
Kerry was not alone at that committee hearing. Sen Fulbright, et al. knew very well what Kerry's "testimony" would be. Fulbright, et al. never approved of fighting against Communist wars of liberation. They were not looking to see what "the other side" ("anti-war" groups) was saying. The Committee under Fulbright was the other side.
Read beyond Kerry's opening statement. He was representing the "Democratic Republic" of North Vietnam and the revolutionary "government" of South Vietnam, both groups met with Kerry in Paris.
The discussion among Kerry, Fulbright, and others on the Committee make it clear that the purpose was to end the war on any terms easily acceptable by the enemy.
To make it clear IMO, not long after the Tet Offensive disaster for the enemy the Kerrys, Fulbrights, press pukes, and many other leftist Americans had so distorted the war reporting, tarnished the U.S. administrations, and maligned U.S. forces in the eyes of the public that to ask the military to continue was meaningless, irrational, and deadly. No one should go to battle when the country has already decided to surrender the war and is just waiting for the politically opportune time.
But let's today get behind the swift boat and all vets to find out how it happened that the country decided to surrender but didn't tell the troops so that the left does not make surrender an option this time!
Just my personal opinion, but I think the reason kerry was not courtmartialed was because of pressure by the demoncraps in the senate at the time. Including of course kerry's good buddy the murderer of Mary Jo Kopechne.
That may be why he will not release his military records and why he did not receive his final discharge for so long.
all I know is that he is a lying traitor...
and that's all I need to know
Correctomundo! Remember, they already voted for a rapist.
If I'm naive, then you're living in the past. If socialists truly controlled the press as they did pre-cable and pre-internet then we'd have heard little or nothing from the Swifties.
The MSM, I admit, has been dragged kicking and screaming into this story but in it they are now. Check out the articles that are finally appearing in the Wash. Post, the Chicago Sun-Times and other large city papers that are questioning Kerry's version of the events and giving credence to the Swifties. That's been forced on them by Fox News, internet bloggers and Drudge.It'll only get worse for Kerry as these papers can't avoid any longer taking up the cry for Kerry to fully release his records.
Bush was smart to take an issue away from Kerry by deploring all of the 527, most of whom support Kerry. Bush and McCain know that nothing is going to silence ANY of the 527s without additional legislation. That has zero chance of occurring before next year if ever.
So Bush has taken an issue away from Kerry without having to give anything up himself. Kerry can't logically criticize Bush on the Swifties without answering why he doesn't condemn and call for silencing his 527s or admitting as Bush has that he has no control over them. If he does, he ends up looking like a hypocrite to the independents and moderate Democrats. Their votes are the one's that will win or lose the election.
Kerry won't be able to say that the General lacks credit.
And he would be stupid to try. Thomas might get even more ticked and go kick Kerry's a--.
You are wrong. Bush gave up a hell of a lot. The couple hundred thousand $$$ the Swift Boat Vets spent got FAR more mileage than the $65 million or so Democratic 527 $$$. Bush screwed himself by trying to silence the Vets both because of effectiveness of the Swifties AND because Bush wants to silence free speech.
If he does, he ends up looking like a hypocrite to the independents and moderate Democrats. Their votes are the one's that will win or lose the election.
You are wrong again. There is no such thing as moderate democrats and independents. If a voters are not solidly for Bush or Kerry right now, 99% of them will vote for Kerry. And regarding your "hypocrite" commment, the press always makes Bush or any "R" look like a hypocrite to the ignorant masses so you are once again incorrect.
Bush will lose if he does not energize core Republicans and some nonvoters who may decide to vote this year. Trying to silence the Swift Boat Vets will not gain Bush any voters but will cost Bush votes as many conservatives throw in the towel after watching Bush pull a pro-Kerry stunt like that.
It's politics, pure and simple.
Bush already has energized the base plus some. Haven't you noticed the recent polls that show while 3% of registered Republicans may vote for Kerry, 15% of Democrats polled are prepared to vote for Bush.
Bush knows that nothing ANYBODY says is going to silence the Swifties. He isn't filing a complaint with the FEC or doing anything serious to silence them but merely paying lip service to the issue. The first lady was quoted in the press yesterday as saying the Swifties have a right to voice their opinion which really amounts to a wink and a nod from Bush. The Swifties have the funds to carry this effort right through the election;they're not going anywhere. Notice Bush hasn't called for an end to their ad in particular, but an end to all 527s; none of which is going to happen.
Anybody with an IQ above room temperature can see that Kerry's boxed in on this. He can't shut the Swifties up. Kerry can only whine and plead for Bush's help(how weak is that)while more and more evidence of his lies and fabrications trickle out daily and more people in the media question his veracity. The call eventually will grow louder and louder for Kerry to fully release his records. If his records supported his case he would have done so long ago. Meanwhile, Bush stays above the fray bemoaning all of the 527s while Kerry supporters wail and thrash about as their campaign dies a little more each day.
What evidence do I have of this? Look at any Democrat talking head the last two weeks. They've become unhinged and unglued. They offer no facts to back up Kerry's Christmas in Cambodia and they even now admit that Kerry's first PH may not have been earned. And there's more, much more, to come. They offer only screeching ad hominem attacks on the messengers. That's a losing formula I'm happy to say.
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No, it is a winning forumula for the Democrats. "Screeching ad hominem attacks" is normal discourse for the ignornat masses.
Bush made yet another major blunder by lumping the Swift Boat ads in with the RATs' ads.
Wanna bet?
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