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The Scorecard: Swiftees vs. Kerry
Newsmax ^ | August 30, 2004 | David Limbaugh

Posted on 08/28/2004 7:00:51 AM PDT by VRWCer

The Scorecard: Swiftees vs. Kerry David Limbaugh Monday, August 30, 2004 Despite the partisan media's claims to the contrary, John Kerry has not successfully refuted "almost all the Swiftees' charges." Though he has attempted to dodge the bullets, he has been deeply wounded by them.

Instead of responding factually to the charges, Kerry and his defenders have: personally attacked the Swiftees and reportedly hired private investigators to look for dirt on them

mischaracterized Swiftee John O'Neill as a Nixon dirty trickster

reiterated their lies about President Bush's Air National Guard service

filed complaints with the FEC to muzzle the Swiftees

pressured media outlets not to run the Swiftees' ads

whined about coordination between the Swiftees and the Bush campaign because attorney Ben Ginsberg advised both

gloated when Ginsberg resigned from representing the Bush campaign, saying it proved there had been coordination all along, though Ginsberg denies any coordination

refused to insist that their similarly situated lawyers or operatives Robert Bauer, Jim Jordan, Joe Sandler and Zack Exley sever their ties as well

theatrically dispatched former Senator Max Cleland to the Bush ranch with a letter imploring the president to urge the Swiftees, over whom the president genuinely has no control, to cease and desist.

called other veterans to pressure them into supporting Kerry

invoked the only sacred Republican name among Democrats, John McCain. (Bob Dole lost similar status this week when nobly standing up for the Swiftees.)

suppressed John Kerry's shameful, America-trashing book "The New Soldier," refusing to allow it to be reprinted

said, dishonestly, that the Swiftees keep changing their stories

repeatedly changed Kerry's story on Christmas in Cambodia. The reasons it was "seared, seared" in Kerry's memory were that it was during Christmas time (people associate events with the sentimentality of Christmas) and President Richard Nixon had supposedly ordered Kerry into Cambodia illegally - which outraged Kerry. Turns out Nixon wasn't in office yet. How can people brush this off as inconsequential? This lie really mattered at the time, and, obviously still does today in terms of the negativity it generated against America.

dramatically backtracked on the first Purple Heart account, being forced to all but admit that Kerry wasn't injured by enemy fire -- which means, if nothing else, that he wasn't entitled to that Purple Heart nor his early out after four months

watched as their enabling mainstream media - the Democrats' most powerful and unregulated "527" group - have systematically tried to discredit the Swiftees' claims by masquerading as objective, investigative journalists. In fact, they've combed records to catch the Swiftees in supposed inconsistencies and painted a fantastic picture trying to connect absurdly remote dots tying the Swiftees to President Bush. All the while they've ignored the mountains of factual evidence against Kerry and even mindlessly repeated the dismissive conclusion that almost all of Kerry's stories have held up to scrutiny. Never has the liberal bias of the partisan media been so conspicuous. (On August 25, the twin print media goliaths: the New York Times and The Washington Post, sang a propaganda duet dismissing the Swiftees' claims: Washington Post - "Many of the charges have been rebutted by veterans who served with Kerry and by military records." New York Times: “the Swift Boat group, almost all of whose challenges to Mr. Kerry and his war record have been contradicted by official war records and even some of its members' own past statements." Makes you wonder whether these two media outlets are recipients or authors of Democratic talking points.)

peddled the lie that the Swiftees "weren't there" because most weren't on Kerry's boat, ignoring that they were in adjacent boats within witnessing distance

avoided Kerry media appearances - he doesn't want to have to answer even the obligatory questions the partisan media might lob at him. And you can be sure there'll be no second or third Kerry-O'Neill debates - no thrilla in Manila. Even Don King couldn't get Kerry to step back into the ring for a rematch with O'Neill, who knocked Kerry cold in the first fight

with the media's help, held up Kerry's "heroism" as sacrosanct and unchallengeable while simultaneously disrespecting the heroism of Kerry's some 254 accusers

with the media's help, held up official navy records as sacrosanct and unchallengeable, ignoring the compelling Swiftee claim that Kerry manufactured false records

refused to release Kerry's complete military and medical records and diary

complained about the campaign's focus on Kerry's long-ago record, when they brought it up in the first place. I'm just warming up, but I'm already out of space.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bias; davidlimbaugh; kerry; media; sbv; sbvs; sbvt; swiftees
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1 posted on 08/28/2004 7:00:51 AM PDT by VRWCer
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To: VRWCer
Yes, all true, but ... but Kerry's a Democrat. Don't you understand?
2 posted on 08/28/2004 7:02:50 AM PDT by coloradan (Hence, etc.)
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To: VRWCer

After the last several days, I think he is trying to change the subject. What is he going to run on? His senate record is a joke.


3 posted on 08/28/2004 7:03:08 AM PDT by Piquaboy
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To: VRWCer

"Christmas in Cambodia"?

I have always thought the only Navy river ops up near Cambodia were run by Navy Seal teams.
Am I missing something here or what?


4 posted on 08/28/2004 7:05:34 AM PDT by b fair
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To: VRWCer
* bump *

The media is still in denial. Poor babies, I hope their businesses fail miserably, sooner the better.

6 posted on 08/28/2004 7:08:59 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: b fair

D. Limbaugh hits it pretty well. This is watershed event in my opinion: 1) it is now obvious that the main stream media bias is blatant (no need to even debate the subject any more and 2) the Democrats are shooting blanks. What is amazing is that this is the first time the MSM have been sidestepped and beaten, in their hearts they must know that the jig is up, they've been exposed as well as Kerry.


7 posted on 08/28/2004 7:11:57 AM PDT by FastCoyote
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To: All

anyone see O'neill on Bill Maher last night?

nick


8 posted on 08/28/2004 7:16:53 AM PDT by nikos1121
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To: b fair

Maybe, it was a Holiday in Cambodia.


9 posted on 08/28/2004 7:19:03 AM PDT by Big Guy and Rusty 99 ("You're the gayest thing since gay came to gaytown." - Master Shake [resident of NJ, by the way.])
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To: VRWCer

"Makes you wonder whether these two media outlets are recipients or authors of Democratic talking points."

Both.


10 posted on 08/28/2004 7:22:54 AM PDT by Bahbah
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To: nikos1121

No, but I just saw Bill Press calling the Swifties liars, claiming that all of their accusations had been refuted, and Pat Buchanan nailed him on it.


11 posted on 08/28/2004 7:26:28 AM PDT by ABG(anybody but Gore) ("I'm just a gigolo, and everywhere I go, people know I'm lyin' about 'Nam".....)
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To: VRWCer
The Swifties will not go away soon and I'm happy for that.

Kerry will go down on this one and I'm happy for that
12 posted on 08/28/2004 7:29:43 AM PDT by Oldsailor
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To: shadowtoo
The score is Kerry down 5 Million votes in 10 days thanks to the Swifty heroes!!

That means for every dollar donated to the swifties, 10 people change their minds and decide not to vote for Kerry.

So if you give $10 to the swifties you could take 100 votes away from Kerry.

13 posted on 08/28/2004 7:34:48 AM PDT by P-Marlowe
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To: Big Guy and Rusty 99
More likely FANTASY in Cambodia.

Kerry keeps saying it was a CIA op and I find that very hard to believe.

Most ops near to or into Cambodia were SOG ops at this time.
Meaning Spec War personnel.

Found an interesting comment here.

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2004_08/004487.php

Sorry about the tag but I'm not at my usual machine and to do HTML on this one is a pain.
14 posted on 08/28/2004 7:39:14 AM PDT by b fair
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To: VRWCer
Tired of the lamestream media and the DemocRATS 'smear the messenger' campaign? Do SOMETHING ABOUT IT!

Do what Reagan did - GO AROUND THEM AND GO DIRECTLY TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE!

Get your own "EXPOSE KERRY'S FRAUD SWIFT BOAT VETERANS FOR TRUTH" STICKER!

I put this sticker on my truck the other day. I get lots of honks and 'thumbs up'!

The sticker serves 3 purposes:
1 - Shows visible support for "Swift Boat Veterans For Truth" to passing motorists, (encourages our side discourages the libs).
2 - Gets the swiftvets.com website visible to the public, so they can and find out more about 'Hanoi John' Kerry.
3 - Circumvents the lamestream media BIAS filter!

Made by fellow FReeper disabled vet who has a bone to pick with Kerry, like we all do!
Large (24" Wide 12" Tall) $20 (like mine above)
Small (12" Wide 6" Tall) $10
Profits go to SwiftVets.com

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15 posted on 08/28/2004 7:41:21 AM PDT by Chieftain (Support the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth and expose Hanoi John's FRAUD!)
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To: VRWCer

I worry about the Kerry camp "turning" one of the SBVFT based on the dirt they dig up. This will be widely covered by the MSM and then they will drop coverage of the SBVFT. I would hope one of the stronger SBVFT would meet with Kerry and report back what was offered and attempted.

As a side note, can the SBVFT, or any 527 group, place any ads 60 days before the election? Some are saying they have a stronger bullet for October. I worry that either they won't be able to get there message out or the MSM will discredit them.


16 posted on 08/28/2004 7:47:04 AM PDT by alternatives?
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To: b fair

It looks like some of Kerry's own won't drink the kool-aid.

Kerry's descent offically begins offially. (

sorry, CLERKS joke.)


17 posted on 08/28/2004 7:48:11 AM PDT by Big Guy and Rusty 99 ("You're the gayest thing since gay came to gaytown." - Master Shake [resident of NJ, by the way.])
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To: VRWCer

"The critical issue here is that the Vietnamese Communists have chosen to honor Senator Kerry in their War Remnants Museum for his assistance in helping them achieve victory over the United States."

From web page - KERRY HONORED BY COMMUNISTS

For photos of KERRY & FONDA at the Vietnamese Communist War Remnants Museum (formerly known as the “War Crimes Museum”)

Go to: http://www.tinyvital.com/Misc/KerryHonoredByCommunists2.htm


18 posted on 08/28/2004 8:02:47 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: VRWCer
Kerry wasn't injured by enemy fire -- which means, if nothing else, that he wasn't entitled to that Purple Heart nor his early out after four months...

Since Kerry got his early out by fraudulent means, it is only fair that he really "reports for duty" and goes back to Viet Nam to finish the remaining eight months of his tour. He can hang out with his Commie pals over there, and visit the museum where his picture hangs next to Jane Fonda's--two great war heroes (for the wrong side.)

19 posted on 08/28/2004 8:15:08 AM PDT by TruthShallSetYouFree
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To: All

I believe this is the final battle in the Vietname war...and this is the way we will finally win it.


20 posted on 08/28/2004 8:55:40 AM PDT by fifthestate
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