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Kerry citation a 'total mystery' to ex-Navy chief (John Lehman)
Sun Times ^ | August 28, 2004 | Thomas Lipscomb

Posted on 08/28/2004 7:30:49 AM PDT by Grampa Dave

Kerry citation a 'total mystery' to ex-Navy chief

August 28, 2004

BY THOMAS LIPSCOMB

Former Navy Secretary John Lehman has no idea where a Silver Star citation displayed on Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry's campaign Web site came from, he said Friday. The citation appears over Lehman's signature.

"It is a total mystery to me. I never saw it. I never signed it. I never approved it. And the additional language it contains was not written by me," he said.

The additional language varied from the two previous citations, signed first by Adm. Elmo Zumwalt and then Adm. John Hyland, which themselves differ. The new material added in the Lehman citation reads in part: "By his brave actions, bold initiative, and unwavering devotion to duty, Lieutenant (jg) Kerry reflected great credit upon himself...."

Asked how the citation could have been executed over his signature without his knowledge, Lehman said: "I have no idea. I can only imagine they were signed by an autopen." The autopen is a device often used in the routine execution of executive documents in government.

Kerry senior adviser Michael Meehan could not be reached for comment on Kerry's records.

Thomas Lipscomb is chairman of the Center for the Digital Future in New York


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To: BJungNan

BTTT!


941 posted on 08/30/2004 7:56:30 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Travis McGee

Not that I know of.


942 posted on 08/30/2004 7:58:37 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (https://www.swiftvets.com/swift/ccdonation.php?op=donate&site=SwiftVets)
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To: Grampa Dave

935 / 2 sounds very plausible! BUt there must be a number of letters FROM Kerry requesting all of these changes. Those letters, if they are ever recovered, will paint Kerry in his own words as a medal scrounger.


943 posted on 08/30/2004 7:59:14 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Rebelbase
Isn't it a Federal crime to alter military documents?

federal crimes don't apply to dems, just ask them.

944 posted on 08/30/2004 8:11:50 AM PDT by patriot_wes
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To: Travis McGee

I think I prefer to keep the info here. Everytime we start a new thread, some pieces of the puzzle get lost.

Does everyone agree...just let this thread run until there are significant new developments?


945 posted on 08/30/2004 8:27:53 AM PDT by Timeout (“If John Kerry loses, it will be the parade we never had.”--Anonymous Vietnam Vet)
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To: cyncooper

I still think it's a wasted effort.
Lehman also said that he signed routine paperwork to replace 'lost' medals. That's a whole separate ballgame since he appears confused as to whether he threw medals, or ribbons, or whose they were. Did he really toss his own, then decide later he wanted them for his wall in the Senate Offices? Reasonable question.

I think that there are enough things to discuss with regards to Sen Kerry, his military record, his activism, and his Senate record.

The details about who signed a replacements citation is way too far out in the weeds. It will not resonate with voters, even if it is NOT a routine medal replacement request.


946 posted on 08/30/2004 8:29:36 AM PDT by BlueNgold (Feed the Tree .....)
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To: Timeout

Good point.


947 posted on 08/30/2004 8:33:43 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: MediaMole
What the %^%^&*&^* does "MSM" stand for?

MainStream Media.

That's garbage though. You ARE right. That's what they mean. But there's nothing mainstream about them. These guys are fifth-column lefties, who have NO love for this country, and would like to see it destroyed. They, themselves, feel so 'connected' and so wealthy that they believe they'd escape any ill-consequences from their destructive agenda. But, ultimately, being self-destructive, conceited, bi-polar, etc., I don't think they'd care. And it isn't mainstream. It's leftwing, period. I refer to it for what it is - leftwing 'mainstream' - LM.

948 posted on 08/30/2004 9:10:39 AM PDT by sevry
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To: MediaMole

What does "MediaMole" stand for? Are you MSM?


949 posted on 08/30/2004 10:42:51 AM PDT by Timeout (“If John Kerry loses, it will be the parade we never had.”--Anonymous Vietnam Vet)
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To: Timeout

"I think I prefer to keep the info here. Everytime we start a new thread, some pieces of the puzzle get lost.

"Does everyone agree...just let this thread run until there are significant new developments?

We can have individual threads, but the posters might want to link them to this thread. It has developed legs and some incredible links.


950 posted on 08/30/2004 1:17:47 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (https://www.swiftvets.com/swift/ccdonation.php?op=donate&site=SwiftVets)
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To: Travis McGee; Timeout; doug from upland; Ernest_at_the_Beach; RonDog; flashbunny

951 posted on 08/30/2004 1:31:20 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (https://www.swiftvets.com/swift/ccdonation.php?op=donate&site=SwiftVets)
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To: Grampa Dave
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"I'm prouder of my service and of wearing my country's
uniform than of anything else I have ever done"
John Kerry
Boston Globe, Feb 4, 1994. pg. 12

952 posted on 08/30/2004 1:55:18 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: calcowgirl
"I'm prouder of my service and of wearing my country's uniform than of anything else I have ever done" John Kerry Boston Globe, Feb 4, 1994. pg. 12


953 posted on 08/30/2004 1:58:01 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (https://www.swiftvets.com/swift/ccdonation.php?op=donate&site=SwiftVets)
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To: Rebelbase
Isn't it a Federal crime to alter military documents?

Not if you're a Dem'Rat. You can also steal classified documents, kill women in your car, and trade satellite technology to the Chinese in return for campaign contributions, if you so choose.

954 posted on 08/30/2004 2:03:33 PM PDT by HenryLeeII (sultan88, R.I.P.)
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To: Grampa Dave

bttt!!


955 posted on 08/30/2004 2:53:18 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Grampa Dave

LOL. Classic!


956 posted on 08/30/2004 3:03:47 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: Grampa Dave

****ANOTHER UPDATE****

Major Garrett had another report on Fox tonight. I came in late, but heard him say Lehman called him today. When I came in the room he was saying, "...he said he put it through, but has no idea how that extra flowery language got added. He wishes he could find out."

I'm glad to hear Lehman is making calls. He wants an answer, too.


957 posted on 08/30/2004 3:18:43 PM PDT by Timeout (“If John Kerry loses, it will be the parade we never had.”--Anonymous Vietnam Vet)
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To: Grampa Dave
BTTT

Bookmarking for later read. Interesting, indeed!!

958 posted on 08/30/2004 11:08:51 PM PDT by exhaustedmomma (CNN (Purveyors) says: SBVFT=Partisan Propaganda & clear to tell which side ads support. WTF ever!)
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To: Timeout

This what I found over at The Hill:

Major Garrett reported that former Navy Secretary John Lehman, a member of the Sept. 11 commission, now is questioning the addition of a line in an updated letter Kerry apparently sent in the mid-1980s concerning a medal he received.

Fox said the additional sentence contained “flowery” language.


959 posted on 08/30/2004 11:15:22 PM PDT by The Bandit
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To: The Bandit; Timeout; Travis McGee

Good news re Lehman getting personally involved in Kerry's blatant fill in his own medal commendation.

It sounds like it didn't end in Nam but continued at least to the mid 1980's.

Remember how vicious the mediots of the MSM branch of the rats were with Admiral Borda and one little V on a single ribbon. If there was a single good reporter amongst the mediots of the MSM branch of the rats, they would be all over this story.


960 posted on 08/31/2004 5:22:56 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (https://www.swiftvets.com/swift/ccdonation.php?op=donate&site=SwiftVets)
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