Kerry’s Crowd: Sweating, Squealing & Sinking

Townhall ^ | Aug. 28, 2004 | Doug Giles

[FairOpinion]

A fat guy in Miami wearing sackcloth, eating habanera peppers and doing pushups on sheet metal at noon in late August would sweat less than Kerry and his cronies, these days. It seems the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth have caused the Democrats to perspire profusely.

What’s happened to Mr. Perfect? Could he have, uhhh, been less than accurate concerning his valiant Vietnam days? Did he just exaggerate – or did he lie? -- when he testified and speechified about those atrocious atrocities? Did he really believe that Ramsey Clark had it right on his return from Hanoi, when he said our POWs were being treated well by the North Vietnamese?

Kerry’s camp is losing its collective cool, and not without cause. In fact, they’re coming unhinged like a stuck door at Jackie Chan’s house. They are squealing louder than the wild boar I hit in the spine with a 100 grain Muzzy broad-head launched from my High Country bow while hunting in Texas.

Have you seen the liberal commentators on TV discussing this stuff with a Swift Boat Vet for Truth or someone who has actually read Unfit for Command and now has serious problems with Kerry’s war claims? They’re straight tripping. Watch them!

Try this: next time you see John O’Neill or one of the other Swifties or an objective, Kerry questioning guest being “interviewed” on one of those lopsided talk shows, turn the sound down on your TV and just observe the body language of the opposing forces.

The Bush haters are shifting, scratching, hemming, hawing and twitching like a 14 year old Amish boy whose mother has just fond his Playboy stash in the horse’s feed bag. If you sat through Psych 101 in your undergraduate days, you’ll know that they know they’re skating on thin and melting ice. Conversely, watching O’Neill and company sit in utter confidence, calmly answering -- when and if allowed -- with pause-free precision every question shot at them, communicates that these dudes are either telling the truth … or else they are Lecter-like in their psychosis.

Since the critics of the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth cannot deal honorably with the heat created by Unfit for Command, since they cannot respond to the evidence the Swifties have piled on their candidate, and since they cannot give any substantive reason for Kerry’s egregious and slanderous lies in ’71 before the Senate and on TV, they revert to:

1. Constantly interrupting the Swifties or their supporters while they’re speaking, never allowing them to complete a thought, or …

2. They go Tourette Syndrome on them screaming uncontrollably, and if that doesn’t work…

3. They strategically roll their eyes, and if that doesn’t work…

4. They flail their arms angrily in the air like an enraged Nell, and if that doesn’t work…

5. They kick them off their talk show like Chris Matthews did Michelle Malkin on Hardball. Hey, Michelle, don’t take Chris’ oaf-like behavior personally. He’s got to be upset that the Fox Report, Seinfeld re-runs, and The Animal Planet keep pulling his remaining viewers, who by now must be mostly his relatives, away from his show. And the final tactic the desperate losing left reverts to is…

6. Hypocritically hollering for the Swifties’ to be stifled while their 527s continue to churn out their villainous venom for the anti-Bushites, and the heavily biased NBC, ABC, CBS, CNN, MTV and VH1 crowd.

In the end, if I were liberal, you wouldn’t catch me arduously defending Kerry. Yes, they are desperate to get their ideology back on top in Washington and out to the masses, where their ideas and programs will once again be proven disastrous, but I wouldn’t be looking to Kerry to be poster boy for my beliefs.

Remember, Senator Kerry is their plan B. Plan A was Howard Dean. He was el Salvador right up until his Exorcist, watch-my-head-spin, moment in Iowa and then their party collectively said, “Holy Schnikeys! We’ve got to get someone else!!!”

The problem was when they turned to look to another candidate, the choices were … pretty thin. It must have been like arriving at a party a little late where the only thing left to drink is a hot, half-empty can of Schlitz, the only thing left to eat is a half-chewed pickle, and the only girl left to hit on is Courtney Love who’s passed out in the fireplace.

Choosing among Dennis Kucinich, Al Sharpton and John Kerry had to be tough. Given the Swifties’ heavily footnoted allegations; given Kerry’s continued caginess in not directly, line-for-line, answering their contentions, coupled with his continued insult to hundreds of thousands of vets who honorably served in a scandalous war … is this the peg on which you want to hang your hat? Hey, this is a man whose photos are preserved in the Vietcong anti-American war museum!

Why can’t we seriously question Kerry? Could it be that a bipartisan group of more than 250 vets who served spitting distance from Kerry might be right? The only way for us to know is not as Max Cleland blustered, for Bush “to put up or shut up”, but for Kerry to face and respond to the accusations, clearly.

My ClashPoint is this: Why the trepidation, lefties, if you’re standing on such solid, holy ground in defending your would be supreme leader? Why are you seemingly coming apart at the seams? Truth is confident … secure … and okay when questioned. And so are those who side with truth. The nervousness, the overreaction by your liberal camp followers and the blind hypocrisy in wailing for the emasculation of free speech if it is contrary to your position, causes the moderate Democrat and the independent voter to think there may be something to what the Swifties are saying.

You see, “truth needs no defense”, as Charles Spurgeon said. “It is a lion that simply needs to be let out of its cage.” The Liberals’ continued knee jerking, sophomoric defense tactics scream that they’re busted and are trying to make the masses look the other way. Instead of denouncing these vets who have a right to air their opinion why not tell JFK, too, to report for duty, burnish his medals, brandish his reports, and have a fresh debate with John O’Neill, 33 years after he lost the first time around?

[FairOpinion]

I think he captured the mood in the Kerry camp well, LOL.

[Chieftain]

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[KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle]

It must have been like arriving at a party a little late where the only thing left to drink is a hot, half-empty can of Schlitz, the only thing left to eat is a half-chewed pickle, and the only girl left to hit on is Courtney Love who’s passed out in the fireplace.

Hey! My high school senior prom! :)

[cousair]

I agree...excellent post. I use the mute button a lot these days, especially everytime Lurch makes it on the telly!!

[Mr. K]

watch for IMPLOSION and HILiarY to step in

[BenLurkin]

[Viet-Boat-Rider]

Take a look at these video clips of POW's describing the torture that they went through because of John Kerry, then ask yourself why Vietnam Vets so oppose Kerry for president. Take a hard look at the last video clip!

Stolen Honor

[NonValueAdded]

see post #2 ping

[tiki]

I can just see them scurrying around like mice in a panic but then I think I do mice a disservice and think of cockroaches.

[BluH2o]

Constantly interrupting the Swifties or their supporters while they’re speaking, never allowing them to complete a thought ...

For some reason Bill O'Reilly comes to mind ...

[NavyCanDo]

LOL I hope Michelle Malkin gets a chance to read this. It will make her feel a whole lot better being able to look back a laugh had her Hardball interview, or I mean non-interview.

[GailA]

As another FReeper in a thread higher up said, hanoi john is screaming for GW to save him from the Swifties.

[counterpunch]

How would that even be possible?
This isn't New Jersey here.

The Democrats have chosen their standard bearer, and I don't believe there is a mechanism for them to replace their nominee lest some tragedy befalls him, and I don't mean poor poll numbers.

I have been saying for some time now, while others all around have been in a panic, that Kerry will be DOA by the end of September. Should this be the case as it will be, what if anything could the Democrats other than go down with Kerry's sinking swift boat?

Could Kerry withdraw his name from the race, and if so, then what?
But the question is of course could a man as self-serving and self-important as Kerry ever "take one for the team"?

I would imagine that if Kerry could somehow be replaced at the top of the ticket, it would be with John Edwards, not Hillary HamRod. Why would she want to blow her aspirational load prematurely?

[P.O.E.]

Kerry's apologists also refer to the mythical "others", as in "Swift Boat Vets are denying facts about Kerry's record that most people know to be true".

Facts, like the self-aggrandized record he's been beating us over the head with?

[Fiddlstix]

You see, “truth needs no defense”, as Charles Spurgeon said. “It is a lion that simply needs to be let out of its cage.”.....

'Nuff Said.

[Boundless]

> They go Tourette Syndrome on them screaming uncontrollably

It would have been far more effective for the Kerry Kamp
to have completely ignored the SBVFTs. No responses. Send
no counterpoint onto talk shows. Dismiss all inquires with
"not worth responding to".

It might not have worked, ultimately, but it would have
been more effective than what they are doing.

It would have taken nerves of steel, and they do not
have anyone with that characteristic.

[EggsAckley]

Yes. And it's comforting to read something that we all (here) have been noticing, the unraveling of the left. They are the most entertaining when they are unraveling.

[Boundless]

> ... and I don't believe there is a mechanism ...

Eagleton.

And even if there was no mechanism: Toricelli/Lautenberg

But there has to be a mech, because people are mortal,
and eventually a candidate will get struck by lightning
after getting the nom.

If Kerry steps down, taking a medical deferment, caused
by a recurrence of his "cured" prostate cancer, is a
likely excuse.

But since there's a credible argument that the Clintons
(who tightly control the DNC) want him to lose, there
may be no high-level pressure for him to step aside.
And if it's left up to Kerry to conclude that he needs
to step aside, my read of his "character" says he won't.

[Tacis]

Yeah, but don't gloat yet. That's McAuliffe, Carville, Gepgardt, Waters, Schumer and all the other crapweasels over there.

The dems have a plan "B" that includes increased bribery, distortion, fraud, intimidation, dead voters, foreign voters, fake voters, electronic theft, media fakery, misrepresentation and Clinton.

With their backs to the wall, there is no filth or corruption they will not employ. They selected a weak candidate so Soros and Terry Kerry and several other Eurinal billionaires could control him. They aren't going to let their chance to destroy America without using every dirty trick in the book.

DON'T BE COMPLACENT!!! THEY ARE LIKE THE SPIDERS AND SNAKES THAT STRIKE IN THE NIGHT!! AND ALWAYS REMEMBER, THEY HAVE THE ULTRA-LEFT WING MEDIA ON HAND TO DO/SAY ANYTHING THEY REQUIRE!!

[BradyLS]

As a trial lawyer, what was Edwards thinking when he agreed to play second fiddle to a self-confessed war criminal and veteran basher?

[McGavin999]

Thanks for the link. These are devestating.

[Amish with an attitude]

It does appear that it is all over except for the crying for Kerry.

It will be interesting to see how the Democrats attempt to extricate themselves from this hopeless situation.

[68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub]

"The Bush haters are shifting, scratching, hemming, hawing and twitching like a 14 year old Amish boy whose mother has just fond his Playboy stash in the horse’s feed bag."

I spend a lot of time each day on other forums.

Most all of them are in battleground states.

This one sentence sums up my observations.

[68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub]

TRANSCRIPT: 8/26/04
Steve Gardner, Foregunner, PCF44:
http://swift2.he.net/~swift2/gardner2.mpg

"I spent more time on John Kerry's boat than any other crewmember.

John Kerry hasn't been honest - he has been deceitful.

John Kerry claims that he spent Christmas, in 1968, in Cambodia.

And that is catagorically a lie. Not in December. Not in January.

We were never in Cambodia on a secret mission. Ever."

Ramsey Clark to Join Panel for Saddam’s Defense

arabnews press release 25 August 2004

NOTE :
Ramsey Clark is pictured below with Kerry and
Vietnam phony vet Al Hubbard
Who was head of the
Vietnam Veterans Against the War movement.


Al Hubbard Sgt., 22 Troop Carrier Squadron Aug. ’65-June ’66
- Al Hubbard, proven fraud who never set foot in Viet Nam.
The only Vietnamese he ever met was
when he was collaborating with the North Vietnamese in Paris
on the American Communist Party's nickel.

John Kerry's explanation:
"He (Hubbard) simply exaggarated his particular position.
But nobody knew it at the time. And those things happen."

NEW:
FReeper smith288 has an online version of
Kerry's "The New Soldier"
You can read it without downloading pdf files!
CLICK HERE

The New Soldier, (46 pages)
By John Kerry
and Vietnam Veterans
Against the War
PART I (pdf file)
PART II (pdf file)
PART III (pdf file)

Kerry hopes everyone
in the USA gets this book!

NEW:
“Without question,
we were held captive longer
because of the anti-war people,
the Kerrys, the Fondas and Haydens,
the names we knew over there -
they encouraged the enemy to hang on.”
Excerpt from “Stolen Honor” website
- Leo Thorsness
Former Vietnam POW
CLICK HERE

Jane Fonda tells the student audience at the Michigan State University in 1969;
"I would think that if you understood what communism was, you would hope,
you would pray on your knees, that we would someday become communist."

Joe Moore, Can Tho Airfield 550th Signal Company

Copy and paste the links to everyone you know.

Send this url for the Steve Gardner video

http://swift2.he.net/~swift2/gardner2.mpg

Send this url for the online version

http://ejsmithweb.com/fr/newsoldier/

Send this url for the Stolen Honor website

http://www.stolenhonor.com/

Print this out (46 pages) and disribute it,
especially to the liberals you know.

http://nomayo.mu.nu/archives/New%20Soldier%20Inro.pdf

http://nomayo.mu.nu/archives/New%20Soldier.pdf

http://nomayo.mu.nu/archives/New%20Soldier%20Epilogue.pdf

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[Rome2000]

DESPERATELY SEEKING TEREZA

[Rome2000]

[Gator113]

Senator kerry,

-You have the right to remain silent.

-Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law.

-You have the right to have an attorney present before any questioning.

-If you cannot afford an attorney, one will be appointed to represent you before any questioning. Do you understand these rights?

[cyncooper]

I think he captured the mood in the Kerry camp well

Perfectly

I was just telling my husband this morning that the Kerry Kamp (this includes almost all the media, natch) is reduced to "The Swift Vets are LYING!" and "Bush is behind the Swift Vets!".

This as quietly and inexorably the Kerry lies are falling down like dominoes....one after the other after the other after the other...

And GWB is so clearly not a part of the Swift Vets it isn't even funny anymore.

Yes, to watch the Kerry Kamp is a sight to behold, for sure. It is ugly and nasty.

[prophetic]

6. Hypocritically hollering for the Swifties’ to be stifled while their 527s continue to churn out their villainous venom for the anti-Bushites, and the heavily biased NBC, ABC, CBS, CNN, MTV and VH1 crowd.

I think you forgot the BET channel, with their mind-numbing drone of some lame rap soundtrack with the eternal scenes of some young black girls swaying to it.

I once told some black friends of mine recently that watching or listening to that channel will rot your brain faster than smoking the weed.

[Dark Knight]

They want an endless party, on the public's dime, in Washington DC. Just like the Clinton's era. The media mavens, Hollywood, et. al. miss that party. Bush throws a party and he's gone by 9PM. Clinton throws a party and there are condoms on the Christmas tree.

But I'd love to go to a Bush BBQ.

DK

[Wolverine]

This is the line of attack: http://www.stolenhonor.com

James Warner POW in North Vietnam

Windows Media Player Broadband http://www.videopa.com/kerry/warner.asx 8 minutes of POWERFUL INDICTMENT!

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“The North Vietnamese told us we were war criminals, not covered by Geneva Convention…” PLAY THIS (Last on this page): POWs http://www.stolenhonor.com/documentary/samples.asp 

 

TOGETHER WITH THE SWIFTVETS AD #2.

The Swiftboat Vets' second ad, released at the beginning of this week to play in Ohio, West Virginia and Wisconsin, features former POWs charging Kerry with betrayal for accusing them of war atrocities during his testimony to the Senate Foreign Relations Committee in 1971. http://humaneventsonline.com.edgesuite.net/unfit_video2.html

[maro]

When you're marrying above your station, you don't notice the cracks in the inlaws' china.

[ken5050]

"suggestion" for a new Dem bumper sticker..

"DUMP KERRY - DRAFT McGREEVEY"

[hinckley buzzard]

"As a trial lawyer, what was Edwards thinking when he agreed to play second fiddle to a self-confessed war criminal and veteran basher?"

No problem for the little shyster. Those are his kind of people.

[cyncooper]

I'm listening to Warner now...

Devastating

[LittleRedRooster]

Remember, Senator Kerry is their plan B. Plan A was Howard Dean. He was el Salvador right up until his Exorcist, watch-my-head-spin, moment in Iowa and then their party collectively said, “Holy Schnikeys! We’ve got to get someone else!!!”

Kerry wasn't plan B he was plan 'anyone else but Dean' as Howard was in effect wrestling away the power of the Dem party from the Clinton's and the 'money'. Wesley Clark was thrown at Dean as was anyone else that could possibly derail him and Kerry wasn't vetted but given the job as Clark proved to be the idiot he is and Kerry is easily controlled by the Dem party, Clinton's and the 'money'.

[Lady Jag]

RULE #1:
NEVER LET THEM SEE YOU SWEAT

[Mr. Mojo]

Did he really believe that Ramsey Clark had it right on his return from Hanoi, when he said our POWs were being treated well by the North Vietnamese?

Ramsey Clark should've been hanged for treason a long time ago.

[cousair]

I watched all the clips, and especially the last. Kerry is AN INDECIVE TRAITOR in my book. Everyone should see the clips.

[Radix]

It seems to me that each and every article that I read or hear by Kerry supporters at once takes the position that the Swift Boat Vets are liars. 

They almost always begin their diatribes with assumptions that are really accusations. The Swifties are lying and Kerry is the truth teller. They consistently omit the fact that Kerry has already been proven to be a liar on some of these issues. Most of  the issues the MSM has not permitted to be publicly presented for decades. The liberal media has covered Kerry's ass for so long now that they have entrenched themselves into a position which is now being proved both untenable and uncomfortable.

It is quite maddening and frustrating, yet at the same time I get a bit of pleasure watching them squirm. I also have to admit that I can scarcely contain my great glee when I consider that the Swifties have only just begun. I believe that there is a knockout punch coming soon. That is what the Kerry campaign really fears the most.

[Soaring Feather]

LOL

Hit the nail on the head.

[commish]

What is especially delicious is that the ads so far have hit Kerry hard, and they haven't even gotten to the good stuff yet. The POW Documentary is still to come, and the ILLEGAL Paris Meetings with the Viet Cong have yet to be released.

[sweetiepiezer]

HIGH 5, lol, love it!!!!!

[Lady Jag]

Evidence against Kerry is building awfully fast.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Just in case you haven't seen this yet:

Kerry citation a 'total mystery' to ex-Navy chief (John Lehman)

This from a reporter actually doing some research at the Chicago Sun-Times!!!

[NYTexan]

Dem squirming bump!

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

See the latest at link posted at #46.

[gakrak]

A Vet message to JFK "RIP"

[E.G.C.]

BTT!!!!!!