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Vandals cause $1,000,000 damage to Wal-Mart building under construction
WLOS ^ | 8/29/04 | staff

Posted on 08/29/2004 4:46:53 AM PDT by Rebelbase

This happened in Asheville, NC where the hippies and tree huggers have been fighting against the proposed Wal-Mart super center for years (link). Somone repeatedly drove a dumptruck trough the walls of the building under construction.

The article from WLOS:

Vandals hit the construction site of the Wal-Mart Supercenter on Swannanoa River Road overnight. Someone drove heavy construction equipment into the building, creating nearly one million dollars worth of damage.

The vandalism will push the opening of the controversial store back about a month. Workers say security around the site will be upgraded to prevent this sort of incident from happening again.


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: anticapitalism; domesticterrorism; ecoterror; environmentalists; racketeers; radicalleft; rico; ricoact; terrorism; vandalism; walmart
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Better story at the Asheville-Citizen Times, which, due to restrictions can only be linked here:

Vandals cause major damage to Wal-Mart

1 posted on 08/29/2004 4:46:53 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: Rebelbase
A few more felons will be on their way to prison soon.

The construction of the WalMart will be set back, oh, about a week.

Score one for the free market. See ya in Sporting Goods.

2 posted on 08/29/2004 4:56:21 AM PDT by keithtoo
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To: Rebelbase; Gritty; William Terrell

Rudolph the Red strikes.


3 posted on 08/29/2004 4:57:44 AM PDT by snopercod (The oldest civil war of all, that between the city and the country, has resumed.)
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To: keithtoo
See ya in Sporting Goods.

I'll be the one buying white boxes, 9mm and .45 ACP.

4 posted on 08/29/2004 4:59:30 AM PDT by TC Rider (The United States Constitution 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: Rebelbase

Hmm..destroying a Wallmart isn't necessarily the deed of a leftist IMO. Although I'm sure the bots will disagree and call me a nazi and other Buchananesque terms/.


5 posted on 08/29/2004 5:01:51 AM PDT by Indie (Ignorance of the truth is no excuse for stupidity.)
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To: Indie

Ah, perhaps you don't know Asheville and the problems this Wal-Mart had in getting off the ground.

10:1 it was envirowacko related.


6 posted on 08/29/2004 5:12:13 AM PDT by Rebelbase (John Kerry, sign form 180 .)
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To: Rebelbase
Wal-Mart is usually constructed with non-union labor. They have their own crew(s) that are experienced in Wal-Mart's particular layout(s).

My guess ... who else could know enough to jump a big machine , do the job and be out before the heat comes ... an angry, experienced heavy equipment operator.

This is not an endorsement from me for or against unions ... just an opinion.

7 posted on 08/29/2004 5:12:52 AM PDT by knarf (A place where anyone can learn anything ... especially that which promotes clear thinking.)
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To: knarf

If one knows how to use a clutch and drive a stick shift, one can drive a dump truck around a construction site.


8 posted on 08/29/2004 5:16:30 AM PDT by Rebelbase (John Kerry, sign form 180 .)
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To: Rebelbase

I wonder if these "enviroMENTALists" make thier own clothes?


9 posted on 08/29/2004 5:16:38 AM PDT by Dallas59
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To: Rebelbase
OOPS ... somehow I transposed dump truck to mean D-9.

It's still a feat.

10 posted on 08/29/2004 5:20:39 AM PDT by knarf (A place where anyone can learn anything ... especially that which promotes clear thinking.)
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To: Dallas59

Made from 100% home grown hemp. And when they wear a bit they just smoke them.
Easy enough to predict more private police and lots of cameras around building sites like this one.


11 posted on 08/29/2004 5:21:38 AM PDT by ProudVet77 (Proud to be a FReeper)
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To: Rebelbase
Ah, perhaps you don't know Asheville and the problems this Wal-Mart had in getting off the ground. 10:1 it was envirowacko related.

Wal-Mart has a reputation for getting in bed with local politicians and getting them to use the power of eminent domain to sieze property from private citizens to aquire land to build their stores if they refuse to sell to Wal-Mart. The Wal-Mart folks usually convince the local "officals" that a Wal-Mart store would bring more tax dollars into the community and therefore the construction there of is for the good of the community and eminent domain is applicable. This has happened all over the country and Wal-Mart has done a fairly good job keeping it quiet. However, Neal Boortz has been following the story for more than a year and regularly updates the situation. You should read about what Wal-Mart did to folks in Alabaster, Alabama, who refused to sell their land. It was sickening and it's not just Wal-Mart doing it.

Without property rights, so much for our "free" society.

12 posted on 08/29/2004 5:26:55 AM PDT by Thermalseeker
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To: Rebelbase
I wonder if these people were involved.
13 posted on 08/29/2004 5:28:57 AM PDT by snopercod (I saw Aunt Kerry coming and I ducked back in the alley - "Little Richard" snopercod)
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To: knarf

A quick summary of local activist's "concern" for a new Wal-Mart in Asheville:

http://www.agrnews.org/issues/69/commentary.html

http://agrnews.rack2.purplecat.net/issues/170/localnews.html 3rd story down

http://www.citizen-times.com/cgi-bin/article/wncbusiness/59370.shtml

http://www.sprawl-busters.com/search.php?readstory=932

http://www.citizen-times.com/cgi-bin/article/editorial/16828

http://www.mountainxpress.com/news/2002/0731city.php

http://lists.cu.groogroo.com/mailman/archive/dryerase/2002-July/000032.html

http://www.walmartwatch.com/neighbor/view.cfm?id=364

Etc., Etc., Etc.





14 posted on 08/29/2004 5:33:29 AM PDT by Rebelbase (John Kerry, sign form 180 .)
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To: Rebelbase

Once it opens, these same vandals will be shopping there because it is cheaper.


15 posted on 08/29/2004 5:35:49 AM PDT by coconutt2000
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To: knarf
I live just outside of asheville. And yes, it's the city that endorses and encourages envirofascists. It also offers true witches covens and is the homosexual mecca of the south. If it's an alternate lifestyle, it's here. I doubt it's the work of union workers, as that is not common for this area. The hippies here have, as usual, no regard for anything other than themselves and their druidic worship of trees.

Walmart had its biggest challenge here. The envirowhackos wanted this old bleachery factory to stay there and look hideous. They do not care about jobs or anything beyond their world. Econmically, we need walmart to help the local economy recover from the enormous manufacturing job losses.

True, we live surrounded by beauty. But everything from expanding I26 to six lanes to Walmart has been blocked. I would love to say they should ride bikes and make their own stuff, LOL but they probably already do. Asheville caters to these groups because they have become econmically influential here.

Beautiful area, but I encourage touring Christians to stay out and let Asheville know your tourist dollars will be spent in surrounding conservative towns (hendersonville, brevard, well eveywhere except asheville). Definately not an area to expose children to. Christians need to exert the influences that have put the leftist agenda in the spotlight. Money talks and its the only language they understand. I shop the walmart in hendersonville. Ecoterrorism is serious, but here in Asheville, justice will not be served. They will be applauded. After all, the mayor of Asheville is a satan worshipping witch, FOR REAL.

16 posted on 08/29/2004 5:37:41 AM PDT by momincombatboots (Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber)
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To: Thermalseeker

There are no property rights being violated by Wal-Mart in this case as it is being built on the site of an old Bleachery that has been abandoded for at least 20+ years. No one wanted to buy into the site before because of the cost of disposing of chemically contaminated debris from demolition. Wal-Mart is doing Asheville a favor by cleaning up the Bleachery, when no one else would do it.

The outcry against this location has been 90% from the tree-hugging environuts who DO NOT WANT ANYMORE DEVELOPMENT in their county. It's as much about the "evil corporate empire" Wal-Mart represents as it is about cutting trees to these folks.


17 posted on 08/29/2004 5:41:53 AM PDT by Rebelbase (John Kerry, sign form 180 .)
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To: Rebelbase
The outcry against this location has been 90% from the tree-hugging environuts who DO NOT WANT ANYMORE DEVELOPMENT in their county. It's as much about the "evil corporate empire" Wal-Mart represents as it is about cutting trees to these folks.

They didn't object to the development that brought their own houses, but don't want anyone else to share the area. The entire "anti-WalMart" thing is just a farce anyway.

18 posted on 08/29/2004 5:46:31 AM PDT by meyer
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To: Rebelbase

I gaurantee that a $500,000 reward (from Walmart's insurance company) would lead to the arrest and conviction of the perps who had their fun.


19 posted on 08/29/2004 6:01:52 AM PDT by harpu
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To: Thermalseeker
"Wal-Mart has a reputation for getting in bed with local politicians and getting them to use the power of eminent domain to seize property from private citizens to acquire land to build their stores if they refuse to sell to Wal-Mart."

Bingo! Property rights are the very cornerstone of our freedom, and we have to condemn and stop this any time we can. When one private citizen can seize another private citizen's property rights by eminent domain, we're in deep trouble. This is the very reason I will never buy anything at Wal-Mart, nor should any freedom-loving American.
20 posted on 08/29/2004 6:10:52 AM PDT by Uncle Vlad
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To: momincombatboots
I couldn't agree with you more! My husband grew up just outside of what he now calls A$$ville. The liberal devastation of that town is extreme...known as the San Francisco of the South. It has to be one of the most beautiful cities in the South, yet so ugly from their left leanings.
A few years back I remember seeing an ad by the then mayor of A$$ville.....she looked like she had just walked out of Woodstock...clothes, hair, etc. There are few straights left that don't resent the heck out of what has happened to that city...just a dumbed down version of what is happening to to whole country.
21 posted on 08/29/2004 6:12:38 AM PDT by 4everontheRight (The Liberal Media - the world's vast left wing conspiracy - GW'04 - Rice'08)
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To: Rebelbase
If abortion protesters standing on the sidewalk are able to be prosecuted under the RICO act (for stopping abortion providers' business) then certainly destruction of a business (to put them out of business) should open these terrorists to asset forfeiture. DEFUND THE LEFT. How does one do a million dollars in "vandalism"? At what point is it a shoddy attempt at total destruction?
22 posted on 08/29/2004 6:27:59 AM PDT by weegee (YOU could have been aborted, and you wouldn't have had a CHOICE about it.)
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To: coconutt2000

We had the anti-business hippies protesting near here when they built the Wal Mart in Athens, Oh. They protest any business that comes in - recently a new Lowes, but often successfully drive business away. Then the newspaper complains that under this Bush economy people can't find jobs - after they diligently work and drive jobs away! Then when the stores are completed, what goes in and out of the new stores all day? Hippies.


23 posted on 08/29/2004 6:37:14 AM PDT by RightthinkinAmerican (I oil, lube, service & remotely operate the Republican attack machine!)
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To: snopercod
I wonder if these people were involved.

Home base of these people

24 posted on 08/29/2004 6:37:55 AM PDT by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: keithtoo
See ya in Sporting Goods.

Yep, right next to the ammo.

25 posted on 08/29/2004 6:38:53 AM PDT by Ladysmith (Morality anchored to the 'definitions' of man is not anchored at all. - Petronski)
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To: Thermalseeker
The points you have raised are very important.

I am not familiar with the situation in Asheville. However:

If heavy-handed bullying strategies, legal strategies, or any other techniques are used to steal property from people, decent people must oppose and stop it, whether it be done to further capitalist policies or "environmentalist" policies or anything else.

People should be aware of these injustices and refuse to tolerate them!

If the powerful decide to steal from you or to exploit you, they can find a strategy. If one thing doesn't work, they can think of something else.

"Environmental charities" are notorious for doing this. Some are funded by billions--that's BILLIONS--of dollars. They can afford to hire extremely intelligent lawyers and buy off powerful politicians. The average citizen is helpless when threatened by these organizations and the people who work for them.

Businesses that exploit people are no less onerous.

Such injustices are as evil as racial discrimination or any other evil, and they must not be tolerated.

Injustice is injustice.

26 posted on 08/29/2004 7:32:17 AM PDT by Savage Beast (Kerry: the first self-confessed war criminal to be nominated for president. ~Mark Steyn)
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To: Rebelbase
There are no property rights being violated by Wal-Mart in this case as it is being built on the site of an old Bleachery that has been abandoded for at least 20+ years.

I didn't say THIS Wal-Mart was using eminent domain to sieze the property. I said Wal-Mart has a reputation for doing so. Please pay attention.

27 posted on 08/30/2004 5:05:39 AM PDT by Thermalseeker
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To: RightthinkinAmerican
We had the anti-business hippies protesting near here when they built the Wal Mart in Athens, Oh. They protest any business that comes in - recently a new Lowes, but often successfully drive business away. Then the newspaper complains that under this Bush economy people can't find jobs - after they diligently work and drive jobs away! Then when the stores are completed, what goes in and out of the new stores all day? Hippies.

So, the "Mom-n-Pop" grocery stores, hardware stores, clothing stores, etc., that are buried by Wal-Marts across the country are all run by hippies? You should probably rethink this position.

I do telecommunications engineering for a living. This involves extensive travel. I have worked in 48 states and 16 countries to date. I see the same thing, over and over. When a Wal-Mart comes into a small town before long what used to be "downtown", bustling with small shops, winds up becoming a ghost town. Well paying, entrepreneural jobs are lost to $7/hour Wal-Mart part time jobs. Many small communities across the country are starting to wake up and say no to Wal-Mart.

Keep shopping at Wal-Mart and do enjoy your cheap chineese goods. You will have no right to complain, though, when the job you cause to end is your own.

28 posted on 08/30/2004 5:15:06 AM PDT by Thermalseeker
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To: Thermalseeker

"Please pay attention."

Don't paint with such a broad brush and then get snippy about it.


29 posted on 08/30/2004 5:57:20 AM PDT by Rebelbase (John Kerry, sign form 180 .)
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To: Rebelbase
Don't paint with such a broad brush and then get snippy about it.

Um, you are the one who posted a reply to me based on something I didn't write. It isn't painting with a "broad brush" when Wal-Mart is using eminent domain to seize property all over the friggin' country. I reserve the right to "get snippy" if I want to.

30 posted on 08/30/2004 7:11:19 AM PDT by Thermalseeker
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To: Thermalseeker

Don't be so sure until you know all the facts. We have 6 of Ohio's 8 hippie communes in our county. The people protesting were smelly, longhaired commie flag waving, WTO protesting hippies. I see the same ones each time there's a protest. They bitch about the fact that the f-ing stores will displace grasshoppers, and such. They incite people to refuse to pay income tax to buy bombs for Bush. I live here, I saw it, you didn't. The small business owners did not protest, although I'm sure they weren't happy abuot it. You should probably rethink this position. Don't ass-u-me. You know what they say. You can feel how you want about Wal-Mart and small business, but that has nothing to do with the human scum that constantly come out of the woodwork here. I know the facts of this instance. They are venemous, anti-Bush, anti-US hippies who then blame the lack of jobs on Bush. I'm not just tralking about Wal-Mart either, I'm talking about good, industrial, professional jobs like Honda US. They fight to keep ALL industry or business out. They are now working on a moratorium on NO more construction in the city. NO BUSINESS OR JOBS OF ANY kind allowed. One of the organizers of the Wal-Mart protest recently gave a seminar here to Anarchists from across the country. Look up anarchy - it is the violent overthrow of a government. Does he sound like a local hardware store owner, or a commie hippie?


31 posted on 08/30/2004 7:13:13 AM PDT by RightthinkinAmerican (I oil, lube, service & remotely operate the Republican attack machine!)
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To: Thermalseeker

I have never heard of Wal Mart coercing cities to use eminent domain...

I have heard of Costco trying to do so.

Any specifics would be appreciated.

Thanks.


32 posted on 08/30/2004 7:14:44 AM PDT by Guillermo (These are the two worst candidates for President in a very long time)
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To: Thermalseeker

Considering the thread topic was about the Asheville Wal-Mart you were remiss in not qualifying your broad brush statement and I was on target to tell you that was not the case with the Wal-Mart in question.

Keep acting stupid if you like. I'll ignore you for the rest of this thread.


33 posted on 08/30/2004 7:16:53 AM PDT by Rebelbase (John Kerry, sign form 180 .)
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To: Rebelbase

Hippies Vs The Great Walmart of China. I do not know who I want to lose worse.


34 posted on 08/30/2004 7:20:07 AM PDT by TXBSAFH (Bandwidth is too good for these (L)users.)
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To: knarf
They have their own crew(s) that are experienced in Wal-Mart's particular layout(s).

Four walls and a roof.

35 posted on 08/30/2004 7:23:01 AM PDT by lewislynn (Why do the same people who think "free trade" is the answer also want less foreign oil dependence?)
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To: Thermalseeker
BTW - "The job I cause to end may be my own"?

I have NO f-ing job now - mainly because these scum succeed in keeping ANY good-paying industry out of the county. I am a degreed professional, and now am planning on selling the family farm and moving to actually find ANY job. Don't attack me for buying cheap Chinese Wal-Mart crap until you know that I wasn't taking up for them, and may not even shop there. (I do, and I happen to like cheap crap). I was attacking our large population of resident Berkeley-style pukes. This county is the liberal CESSPOOL of Ohio. You cannot open the paper without seeing the ass-boils of the world. The small business owners mumbled justifiably over Wal-Mart, while the pukes made huge public asses of themselves. And they were NOT worried about the business owners. They work actively to keep this one of the largest welfare counties in Ohio.

36 posted on 08/30/2004 7:27:17 AM PDT by RightthinkinAmerican (I oil, lube, service & remotely operate the Republican attack machine!)
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To: TXBSAFH

Here's one local hippie's response to this:

"what does one do when America's goverments at all levels have been bought and corrupted by the most powerful companies and people in the country??

Vandelism sets the message " we don't want you here! ". Now whether they like it or not, that is the truth.

Everyone talks about the " 600 " jobs it will create. Create for whom? The non-english speaking hispanics in the area who have no rights to complain about the way they are treated to the labor dept?
Or maybe they will hire the pooriest of the poor in the area who would rather be working for lower than normal wages, have their health insurance cut in half than not to be employed at all.

Find me one ,just " 1 " employee at any of Wal-marts in the area that have a 4 year degree and aren't in managment that Wal-mart has truly helped the average american worker."



37 posted on 08/30/2004 7:28:10 AM PDT by Rebelbase (John Kerry, sign form 180 .)
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To: Rebelbase

Terrorists should be shot on sight. ALL of them, towel heads or home grown.


38 posted on 08/30/2004 7:28:31 AM PDT by Protagoras (" I believe that's the role of the federal government, to help people"...GWB, 7-23-04)
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To: Thermalseeker; Rebelbase
Without property rights, so much for our "free" society.

The most important property right to Americans should be the right to own a weapon.

39 posted on 08/30/2004 7:35:29 AM PDT by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: Thermalseeker

I was just out the door and this hit me. I am on my way to Puke town to see about my cell phone. Here is one that should be near and dear to your heart. Just TRY to put up a cell phone tower within 10 miles of Athens, Ohio. For that matter, try and build a driveway, put in a septic system, or take a healty dump, for that matter. These commies live on Government grants for teaching Africans how to grow organic okra, ect, and use the surplus to spew hate for the government, quash free trade, and generally work against all that is American. They fly all over the country to protest the WTO in WA, some went to Iraq as human shields. These people aren't worried about you. They want the stone age back. And you're siding with them. Maybe your opinon of free trade needs rethinking. You don't have to like Wal-Mart, but consider the American principles behind their right to exist.


40 posted on 08/30/2004 7:39:59 AM PDT by RightthinkinAmerican (I oil, lube, service & remotely operate the Republican attack machine!)
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To: Rebelbase

Our professional protester hippies cost taxpayers a million bucks or so to re-route a new highway (they tried to stop it altogether) because there was a "rare" moss on some of the trees in the planned route. Bullsh!t! Every time they have an BS excuse. You and I both know they make it up. They just like to be monkey wrenches in the capitalist machinery. They make good money at it too - one was caught in a sting taking bribes for NOT protesting. It is glorified extortion. They'll cost you money in legal fees and make huge asses of themselves for weeks, or you can slip them a few thousand and they'll go away.


41 posted on 08/30/2004 7:50:29 AM PDT by RightthinkinAmerican (I oil, lube, service & remotely operate the Republican attack machine!)
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To: momincombatboots; 4everontheRight
I'm sorry to hear that Asheville has changed so much since I left there in 1966 to go to college. I did see the articles about the Naked Bike Ride this summer and was disappointed at what Asheville has turned into. Some say it's the half-backs but your post says a lot about the causes.

On another sad note I am sickened at what they're doing to the mountain tops especially those visible along I-40 near Marion. While I am not an enviro-wacko I think that it is possible to develop my beloved mountains without shaving the tops off mountains!

42 posted on 08/30/2004 6:31:00 PM PDT by NCjim
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To: Rebelbase

Angry K-Mart or Target shareholders?


43 posted on 08/30/2004 6:33:00 PM PDT by MplsSteve
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To: Rebelbase

I wouldn't bet against you.


44 posted on 08/30/2004 6:38:31 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (hoplophobia is a mental aberration rather than a mere attitude)
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To: Rebelbase

check the granola and hemp crowd......my short list


45 posted on 08/30/2004 6:45:50 PM PDT by pointsal
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To: pointsal

"check the granola and hemp crowd......my short list"

That's 3/4 of the city up there.


46 posted on 08/30/2004 6:47:59 PM PDT by Rebelbase (John Kerry, sign form 180 .)
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To: Rebelbase
Keep acting stupid if you like. I'll ignore you for the rest of this thread.

What part of my SPECIFIC MENTION of the Wal-Mart in Alabaster, Alabama did you not comprehend?

47 posted on 09/03/2004 7:29:03 AM PDT by Thermalseeker
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To: RightthinkinAmerican
Look up anarchy - it is the violent overthrow of a government. Does he sound like a local hardware store owner, or a commie hippie?

Instead of sitting at your computer, whining to me, why don't you confront these folks and expose them for what they are? Get the community behind you, make them feel unwelcome and they'll leave. (or burn your house down)

48 posted on 09/03/2004 7:31:21 AM PDT by Thermalseeker
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To: knarf

"They have their own crew(s) that are experienced in Wal-Mart's particular layout(s)."

Are they Chinese crews?


49 posted on 09/03/2004 7:33:10 AM PDT by dljordan
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To: knarf

I used to operate a D-9. That'll do it every time. All you have to do is take out the corners and push.


50 posted on 09/03/2004 7:34:15 AM PDT by dljordan
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