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Abu Buchanan's Fatwah on Israel
Frontpage Magazine ^ | August 31, 2004 | Don Feder

Posted on 08/31/2004 12:56:59 AM PDT by rmlew

Israel represents the synthesis of Pat Buchanan’s paranoid delusions -- rampant interventionism, neo-conservatives (his euphemism for Jews) in charge of the Bush’s foreign policy, American empire and a war on terrorism that can’t be won.

Thus, in his new book – "Where The Right Went Wrong: How Neoconservatives Subverted the Reagan Revolution and Hijacked the Bush Presidency” -- all roads lead to Jerusalem.

In Buchanan’s fantasy world, were it not for America’s outrageously pro-Israel foreign policy, Osama bin Laden and Mullah Omar would be sending us anonymous love letters, the World Trade Center would still be standing, and the Moslem world would be singing “Yankee Doodle Dandy,” in unison, while Saddam Hussein (doing a passable imitation of Jimmy Cagney) tap-danced in the background.

Israel a la Pat is a homicidal, imperialist state – practicing apartheid, deliberately slaughtering civilians, occupying Palestinian land, and subjugating its peaceful inhabitants.

On page 240 of his book, Buchanan approvingly quotes Avraham Burg, who he identifies as a former speaker of the Knesset, concluding that Israel is a “thunderously failed reality,” that “rests on a scaffolding of corruption and on foundations of oppression and injustice.” According to Burg, “the end of the Zionist enterprise is already on our doorstep.”

Pat somehow neglects to mention that Burg, the epitome of the self-loathing Jew, represents the far left of Israeli politics. An architect of the 1993 Oslo Accords, Burg is bitter because his handiwork (now seen as paving the way for the present jihad) has been overwhelmingly rejected by Israeli society.

In other words, Burg is as representative of Israel as Michael Moore is of America.

When it comes to terrorism, Pat practices a moral equivalency worthy of the most slavish Soviet apologists at the height of the Cold War.

Consider the following: “Sharon promised peace and security. Since his provocation on the Temple Mount in September of 2000, he has delivered war and hatred. Over 900 Israelis are dead. Some 3,300 Palestinians have died, including hundreds of children.”

His “provocation on the Temple Mount”? For an Israeli prime minister to visit Judaism’s holiest spot (where the First and Second Temples stood), in Israel’s sovereign territory, is a “provocation”? Besides, Sharon’s visit -- which was approved in advance by the so-called Palestinian Authority -- was a pretext for the violence, which was planned months in advance, as Palestinian leaders have since admitted.

Regarding those dead Palestinians and Israelis, Buchanan overlooks some significant details. Most of the dead Palestinians were fighters killed in confrontations with the Israeli Defense Force. Their civilian dead were overwhelmingly people caught in the crossfire, because brave Palestinian fighters usually choose to challenge the Israelis from civilian enclaves.

Most of the dead Jews were women, children and the aged -- elderly Holocaust survivors attending Passover seders, babes sleeping in their mothers arms, toddlers eating ice cream cones, families with small children taking a break at a pizzeria, shoppers boarding buses, 13-year-old boys dragged off to caves and stoned to death, etc.

There was the April murder of Gaza resident Tali Hatuel, who was riding with her four children (ages 2 to 11), when Arab snipers forced her car off the road. Pat’s precious Palestinians then walked up to the vehicle and shot each passenger at point-blank range. The mother, who was eight-months pregnant, was also shot in the stomach, to ensure that her unborn child didn’t survive. As a pro-lifer, Pat can certainly appreciate that touch.

For crowd control, the IDF uses rubber bullets. The Palestinians go in for bombs packed with flesh-shredding nails, laced with rat poison. As a result, between September 2000 (the start of the latest Intifada) and February 18, 2003, only 38 percent of Palestinian fatalities were noncombatants, compared to 77 percent of Israel’s dead.

Still, Pat gripes: “Sharon declared Arafat a ‘terrorist,’ i.e., a man with whom no Israeli can negotiate, though Arafat had negotiated with four of Sharon’s predecessors and shared a Nobel Peace Prize with two of them, Yitzhak Rabin and Shimon Peres.”

Shared a Nobel Peace Prize? Oh, you mean like North Vietnamese Foreign Minister Le Duc Tho , who coped his with Henry Kissinger for negotiating the Paris Peace Accords – which led directly to the demise of South Vietnam, a string of tropical gulags and a million Vietnamese Boat People. If Pat has his way, Israel will follow South Vietnam in suicide through negotiations.

I liked Buchanan better when he didn’t sound so – French.

FYI, Sharon isn’t the only one who thinks Arafat is a terrorist – so do Bush, Cheney, Powell, Condoleezza Rice and everyone else except the gutless peace-at-any-price Europeans, and Pat Buchanan.

When it comes to Israel, Pat manages to pack more myths and misconceptions into a paragraph than anyone else I know. To wit:

Under the Sharon Plan, Israel will annex all five major settlements on the occupied West Bank. The Palestinian right of return is forfeit. Israel’s security wall will snake in and out of the West Bank. Jerusalem will not be shared with a Palestinian state.”

1) Occupied West Bank – Was this land (Biblical Israel) ever part of an independent Palestinian state? Who was the last Palestinian king or prime minister, Pat?

2) Right of Return – Even after the Palestinians get their state (and Israel gets indefensible borders), Buchanan still wants to see Israel flooded with 6 million refugees – those who left in 1948 and their descendants. If he had any intellectual honesty, he’d admit that this is a prescription for the end of Israel.

3) Security Wall – How inconsiderate of the Israelis to make it harder for suicide bombers to reach their targets! Buchanan has long advocated stationing US troops along our southern border, to prevent the infiltration of illegal aliens. If we have a right to keep out those seeking jobs (and we do), why doesn’t Israel have a right to block the entry of those seeking to blow things up? Ever hear of a Mexican suicide bomber?

4) Jerusalem will not be shared – Why stop at Jerusalem, Pat? Why not also give the Nobel laureate and his peace marchers a slice of Tel Aviv and Haifa, while you’re at it? Or, in fairness, why not give the Sephardic Jews driven from the Arab world in 1948, and their progeny, parts of Cairo, Baghdad and Tehran?

Still, Buchanan raves: “The Sharon Plan is not a peace plan. It is a unilateral solution to be imposed by Israel that no Arab nation will accept. A Palestinian leader who signs on to this surrender of land and rights would be signing his death warrant.” To surrender something, you have to be entitled to it in the first place, no?

Guess what, Pat? Even if Israel gave the Palestinians everything you believe to be theirs by right, it still wouldn’t buy peace – any more than surrender of the Sudentenland bought peace with Nazi Germany.

More than a decade after Oslo, the PLO charter still calls for the annihilation of Israel, as it did when Arafat was accepting his Nobel Peace Prize.

Even when he was pretending to be Israel’s partner in peace, Arafat was telling Arab audiences: We’ll take whatever the Jews are dumb enough to give us, and use it for a base to liberate the rest of Palestine. He even has a name of it – the Plan of Phases.

Without Judea and Samaria (AKA, the West Bank), Israel would be 9 miles wide at its narrow waist. Its eastern border would go from 40 miles to over 200 miles in length – impossible even for the Israeli Army to police. Arab tank columns, in a race to the sea, could cut the nation in half in hours. Controlling the high ground, Palestinians could rain mortar rounds and rockets on an area containing 80 percent of Israel’s population.

Don’t misunderstand me. The Sharon Plan is atrocious. Once the Palestinians have their state, they can begin importing heavy armaments and training commando units to act as an advance column for the rest of the Arab world when the next Middle East war comes – as come it will.

But the fact that Buchanan finds Sharon’s unilateral submission paltry and insufficient, and an insult to the noble Arafat and his heroic people, shows that Pat is either totally detached from reality or has an implacable, blinding hatred of the Jewish state that defies rational explanation. I think it’s a little of both.

Buchanan has constructed a worldview in which all of our troubles with Islam come down to a nation the size of Connecticut, devoid of resources.

I wonder if he ever asks himself why Moslems are killing Hindus in the Kashmir – because Sharon won’t share Jerusalem with Arafat? Or, why Moslems are murdering Christians in Indonesia, oppressing Christians in Egypt and committing genocide in the Sudan (a fact now even acknowledged by hard-core leftist Danny Glover)? Was the foregoing sparked by Sharon’s provocation on the Temple Mount?

Why is Saudi Arabia financing the building of militant mosques all over the United States, while signs in Riyadh proclaim “An Islamic World”? Perhaps the phenomenon is due to Israel’s security fence. Why are Kosovar Moslems burning down Orthodox churches, razing convents and slaughtering Serbs whenever they can lay their hands on them? Could this be a reaction to Neoconservative control of US foreign policy?

Like the Oxford students in the 1930s, who signed petitions vowing they’d never fight for king and country, like the America-Firsters under Charles Lindbergh (who Buchanan reveres), Pat is blind to any reality that threatens to intrude on his cozy, isolationist worldview.

Where The Right Went Wrong is dedicated to Ronald Reagan.
Would you care to know what a real conservative – the greatest conservative of the 20th. century – thought of the Jewish state?

In October 1980, Reagan called for “an undivided Jerusalem” under Israeli sovereignty. In the same speech, he declared, “I believe in the right of settlements in the West Bank.”

In April 1978, Reagan observed, “The present (Carter) administration is dead wrong when it says Israel’s West Bank settlements are ‘illegal.’”

In September 1980, the Gipper explained: “The touchstone of our relationship with Israel is that a secure, strong Israel is in America’s self-interest. Israel’s a major strategic asset to America. Israel is not a client but a very reliable friend.” That view did not change with the end of the Cold War.

In office, Reagan was forced to modify his position on what are called settlements. But he never changed in his opposition to a Palestinian state (“The United States will not support the establishment of an independent Palestinian state in the West Bank and Gaza.”), or his rejection of negotiations with Arafat and his PLO (who our 40th president consistently branded terrorists).

The man who won the Cold War envisioned Palestinians living in post-1967 Israel exercising a fair degree of autonomy, in some sort of loose federation with Jordan.

In his book, “Broken Covenant,” former Israeli Ambassador to the U.S., Moshe Arens disclosed, “Meeting President Reagan was like meeting an old friend, and he had a strong feeling of friendship and admiration for Israel that was always apparent in word as well as in deed.”

In light of the foregoing, who has betrayed the Reagan legacy – the neo-conservatives or Patrick J. Buchanan?


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Israel
KEYWORDS: americafirst; appeasement; buchanan; buchannaite; donaldfeder; donfeder; goawaypatgoaway; isolationists
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To: missyme

As others people on that other thread noted, some of the sounds you were making sounded a bit racist. That is what I was reacting to...


301 posted on 09/01/2004 7:32:52 AM PDT by Pharmboy (History's greatest agent for freedom: The US Armed Forces)
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To: Pharmboy

I never posted on that thread? I am far from being a racist.
I only saw your name on that thread and posted to you, since I was thinking about making PEACE with you...


302 posted on 09/01/2004 7:48:21 AM PDT by missyme (<imgsrc=http://www.cat-domain.com/cats_long/yoni-rmans.jpg>)
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To: missyme
No--I was referring to the thread where we were going at each other; some of your remarks on THAT thread.

Peace is good...

303 posted on 09/01/2004 8:13:49 AM PDT by Pharmboy (History's greatest agent for freedom: The US Armed Forces)
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To: Pharmboy

Well I don't remember it that way, but like I said It's water under the bridge....

So hopefully now we are at PEACE with each other...


304 posted on 09/01/2004 8:41:31 AM PDT by missyme (<imgsrc=http://www.cat-domain.com/cats_long/yoni-rmans.jpg>)
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To: iconoclast; SJackson
The vast majority of posters with your sentiments are post-2002 subscribers to FR, in other words AFTER the party had been shanghaied by the NEO-CONS.

No no no.....La Kosher Nostra was formed before that. The La Kosher Nostra Sisterhood was started after. I am sure if you consult your updated The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion manual, internet edition, you will see this.

305 posted on 09/01/2004 9:32:38 AM PDT by Bella_Bru (It's for the children = It takes a village)
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To: rmlew

You know, I can't help but think, were he alive today, Reagan himself would b!tchslap Buchanon.


306 posted on 09/01/2004 9:42:48 AM PDT by wattsmag2
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To: missyme

Well, I'm not going to start again, so consider yourself kissed on the cheek and smiled at. The hatchet is buried.


307 posted on 09/01/2004 9:49:31 AM PDT by Pharmboy (History's greatest agent for freedom: The US Armed Forces)
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To: Pharmboy

So consider yourself kissed on the cheek and smiled at:
And the same to you! :-)


308 posted on 09/01/2004 11:47:33 AM PDT by missyme (<imgsrc=http://www.cat-domain.com/cats_long/yoni-rmans.jpg>)
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To: Bella_Bru
No no no.....La Kosher Nostra was formed before that. The La Kosher Nostra Sisterhood was started after. I am sure if you consult your updated The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion manual, internet edition, you will see this.

You’re right, much longer than the Bush administration. Those nasty neocons Pearle, Wolfowitz, Feith, Leeden, and others (like uncounted neocons like Cheney, Rumsfeld , Rice and Powell, they don’t fit the conspiracy theories) date back to the Reagan administration, when they were confronting the previous Evil Empire, which they defeated. I hope they do it again, even at the risk of upsetting Abu Pat and his brigadiers.

309 posted on 09/01/2004 11:59:47 AM PDT by SJackson (I'm glad we're doing this mission because I want to get these bastards; LCpl Ryan Voeller, Kilo 3/1)
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To: SJackson
I'd love to chat more about this, but with the High Holy Days coming up, the phone at La Kosher Nostra Sisterhood has been ringing off the hook.

:-P

310 posted on 09/01/2004 12:05:30 PM PDT by Bella_Bru (It's for the children = It takes a village)
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To: iconoclast

You have still failed to explain why you even bothered to mention a profile page.
Profile pages have nothing to do with the thread subject.
Obviously, you think they do -you would not have mentioned it if you didn't.

Now, explain why you think Pat Buchanan's marginalisation has any link whatsoever to profile pages.


311 posted on 09/01/2004 1:10:04 PM PDT by Darksheare (Don't greet customers at the drivethrough with: "We are the Borg, resistance is futile!")
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To: iconoclast

And often it is a smoke screen of misdirection and disinformation for profile page readers.


312 posted on 09/01/2004 3:03:15 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (I'm Conspiracy Guy and I approve this message. "John Kerry is a liar!")
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To: Darksheare
Pat Buchanan's marginalisation

.... has everything to do with a radical, liberal MSM that went ballistic when he came forward as an unabashed, old-fashioned, populist conservative who told it like it was.

Sheeple like you, who constantly bitch about the MSM, ironically bought it hook-line-and sinker.

313 posted on 09/01/2004 3:11:52 PM PDT by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan)
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To: Conspiracy Guy
Explain your response. PB is not John the Baptist.

Pb is a voice (of truth and political reality) in the wilderness.

But you and your ilk would not recognize it until decades after his head was handed to you on a platter.

314 posted on 09/01/2004 3:19:07 PM PDT by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan)
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To: iconoclast
Pat Buchanan's marginalisation

.... has everything to do with a radical, liberal MSM that went ballistic when he came forward as an unabashed, old-fashioned, populist conservative who told it like it was.

Right. It's everyone's fault but PJB's. It couldn't possibly be that he's a kook.

Whatever gets you through the night, iconoclast.

315 posted on 09/01/2004 4:29:46 PM PDT by malakhi
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To: iconoclast
Pb is a voice (of truth and political reality) in the wilderness.

Pb is a paranoid nutcase who now has more in common with the Green Party and Ralph Nader than with anything resembling conservatism. The Republican Party is well rid of him.

316 posted on 09/01/2004 4:31:50 PM PDT by malakhi
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To: iconoclast

Really?
And Pat's constant rants against our only real ally in the mid-east?
You still have yet to really definately honestly answer teh question about why you even mentioned a bio page.
You obnviously wanted to make it an issue.
So, it's an issue.
For being from Ohio, you sure do follow along with THE TOLEDO BLADE.


317 posted on 09/01/2004 5:12:58 PM PDT by Darksheare (Don't greet customers at the drivethrough with: "We are the Borg, resistance is futile!")
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To: iconoclast

Oh yeah, according to your god PB, the Jews control our government, and are out to rule the world so it seems.
You haven't adequately explained your definition of NEO-CON.


318 posted on 09/01/2004 5:14:26 PM PDT by Darksheare (Don't greet customers at the drivethrough with: "We are the Borg, resistance is futile!")
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To: Darksheare
You haven't adequately explained your definition of NEO-CON.

Neocons, see 309, cold warriors, though only of a certain religious persuasion, now fighting the next war.

319 posted on 09/01/2004 5:46:01 PM PDT by SJackson (I wish they had a delete button on LexisNexis, John Kerry (who served in RVN) via Ann Coulter)
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To: malakhi
Right. It's everyone's fault but PJB's. It couldn't possibly be that he's a kook...Whatever gets you through the night, iconoclast.

Getting through the night, with Pat. Not a particularly pleasant thought.

320 posted on 09/01/2004 5:46:56 PM PDT by SJackson (I wish they had a delete button on LexisNexis, John Kerry (who served in RVN) via Ann Coulter)
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To: SJackson

Hmm.
Some of the PB'ers seem to equate 'neo-con' with something other than Americans.


321 posted on 09/01/2004 5:47:21 PM PDT by Darksheare (Don't greet customers at the drivethrough with: "We are the Borg, resistance is futile!")
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To: iconoclast
Something you might be able to help me with, since you're a Pat syncophat, well read I presume.

I know Pat's stance on immigration.

I know he's supportive of amnesty for illegals, but I've never seen his position spelled out.

How long does an illegal need to be here before American citizenship is bestowed on him. 5 years? 10? 20?

I've had trouble figuring his position out, I rarely see it clearly stated, understandable since the brigadiers might not like it.

If he's not supportive of amnesty, let me know, I'll recheck my questionable sources.

322 posted on 09/01/2004 5:52:45 PM PDT by SJackson (I wish they had a delete button on LexisNexis, John Kerry (who served in RVN) via Ann Coulter)
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To: Darksheare
Hmm. Some of the PB'ers seem to equate 'neo-con' with something other than Americans.

Americans of the dual loyalty variety, and I'm not speaking of Papists.

323 posted on 09/01/2004 5:53:35 PM PDT by SJackson (I wish they had a delete button on LexisNexis, John Kerry (who served in RVN) via Ann Coulter)
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To: SJackson

*Grunting 'Hmm'*
Ouch.


324 posted on 09/01/2004 6:32:19 PM PDT by Darksheare (Don't greet customers at the drivethrough with: "We are the Borg, resistance is futile!")
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To: iconoclast
What color is the sun on your planet? Why do you hate Jews? Your Islamic friends will hand your family your head on a platter.

It is refreshing to know that you, the liberals, and the terrorists, all hate Jews. What kind of company are you keeping? Do you know that your friends also hate you?

Or are you too blinded by your false prophet to see it?

Do you feel good about it?
325 posted on 09/01/2004 6:46:51 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (I'm Conspiracy Guy and I approve this message. "John Kerry is a liar!")
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To: SJackson
Getting through the night, with Pat. Not a particularly pleasant thought.

I remembered this magazine cover from the early '90s. You truly can find anything on eBay.

WARNING: you may find this link highly disturbing!

A real collector's item. ;o)

326 posted on 09/01/2004 7:29:01 PM PDT by malakhi
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To: Conspiracy Guy
What color is the sun on your planet? Why do you hate Jews? Your Islamic friends will hand your family your head on a platter.

It is refreshing to know that you, the liberals, and the terrorists, all hate Jews. What kind of company are you keeping? Do you know that your friends also hate you?

Or are you too blinded by your false prophet to see it?

Do you feel good about it?

You post a piece of vitriol like this and have the audacity to lecture me on hate?

I have learned more about hate in the last couple of years on FR than I ever imagined existed. I thank God that I personally know no such haters in my blessed day to day life.

Take a break, go kick a dog.

327 posted on 09/02/2004 4:46:56 AM PDT by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan)
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To: SJackson
I've had trouble figuring his position out, I rarely see it clearly stated, understandable since the brigadiers might not like it

Pat has no problem with the concept of immigration. After all his forebears were immigrants. He simply wants to return to the days when we had an immigration agency that worked and immigration laws that were measured and sensible.

He's a common sense conservative just like the brigadiers.

328 posted on 09/02/2004 4:56:02 AM PDT by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan)
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To: SJackson
If he's not supportive of amnesty, let me know, I'll recheck my questionable sources.

Read Pat's own words:

http://immigration.about.com/library/blbuchanan.htm

BTW, I'm always curious about how you folks "question your sources" if you don't know how to GOOGLE. ;o)

329 posted on 09/02/2004 5:04:35 AM PDT by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan)
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To: iconoclast; Darksheare

Lecture?

It looked like I asked you questions that you failed to give direct answers to. Typical of the type person you appear to be.

Ignore the questions because you have answered them. Do you think you have anyone fooled? I'd suggest you study more and quit listening to Pat ButtCannon.


330 posted on 09/02/2004 5:25:09 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (I'm Conspiracy Guy and I approve this message. "John Kerry is a liar!")
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To: Darksheare
For being from Ohio, you sure do follow along with THE TOLEDO BLADE.

From another thread:

(Zell) Miller and Mayor George McKelvey, D-Youngstown, will join Seaver in Toledo at an Ohio “Democrats for Bush” press conference Saturday.

Don't judge Toledo by the Blade. ;o)

BTW, the "Blah" rips PB at every opportunity, like every other liberal rag in the country.

331 posted on 09/02/2004 5:46:16 AM PDT by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan)
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To: iconoclast

I was born in Toledo, and I judge it by it's inhabitants.
;-)


332 posted on 09/02/2004 6:07:37 AM PDT by Darksheare (Don't greet customers at the drivethrough with: "We are the Borg, resistance is futile!")
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To: iconoclast
If he's not supportive of amnesty, let me know, I'll recheck my questionable sources. Read Pat's own words: http://immigration.about.com/library/blbuchanan.htm BTW, I'm always curious about how you folks "question your sources" if you don't know how to GOOGLE. ;o)

Nothing about amnesty there, but I'm tiring of the discussion and I think I know his position on following immigration laws.

You really should reconsider all this "you people", "your ilk", neocon takeover nonsense, it's not flattering

333 posted on 09/02/2004 5:33:20 PM PDT by SJackson (I wish they had a delete button on LexisNexis, John Kerry (who served in RVN) via Ann Coulter)
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To: SJackson
neocon takeover nonsense, it's not flattering

If I ever flatter a neocon, may God strike me dead. They are the worst plague on the Republican party since Rockefeller Republicans (and sadly we still have a few of those around).

334 posted on 09/02/2004 5:48:15 PM PDT by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan)
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To: iconoclast
If I ever flatter a neocon, may God strike me dead. They are the worst plague on the Republican party since Rockefeller Republicans (and sadly we still have a few of those around).

As a Buchanan supporter, you've no standing to whine about the Republican party. Your boy hasn't been a Republican for ages. He's for any party that has a slot and som $

BTW, I'm always curious about how you folks "question your sources" if you don't know how to GOOGLE. ;o)

Pb is a voice (of truth and political reality) in the wilderness…But you and your ilk would not recognize it until decades after his head was handed to you on a platter.

The vast majority of posters with your sentiments are post-2002 subscribers to FR, in other words AFTER the party had been shanghaied by the NEO-CONS.

Give me a break with your codewords. The difference between you and Hillary is she has a set, sh’ll call a Jew *astard a Jew *astard.

Bye

335 posted on 09/02/2004 5:59:26 PM PDT by SJackson (I wish they had a delete button on LexisNexis, John Kerry (who served in RVN) via Ann Coulter)
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To: SJackson
Give me a break with your codewords.

Please explain why this kind of nonsensical BS is any different than "playing the race card".

336 posted on 09/02/2004 6:10:57 PM PDT by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan)
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To: iconoclast
Please explain why this kind of nonsensical BS is any different than "playing the race card".

Stuff it pal, you have complaints, ping management

Bye

337 posted on 09/02/2004 6:24:27 PM PDT by SJackson (I wish they had a delete button on LexisNexis, John Kerry (who served in RVN) via Ann Coulter)
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To: rmlew
Jews from the Arab world are not all Sephardic. Most are Mizrahi or Yemeni.

I am under the understanding that any Jew from the Arab world is a Sephardic (or from Spain too), though in Israel you would call someone from Yemen a Yemeni and not a Sephardic, for example.

338 posted on 09/03/2004 10:26:08 AM PDT by yonif ("So perish all Thine enemies, O the Lord" - Judges 5:31)
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To: Smocker
The Israelis are just as guilty of terrorist activities as the palestinians.

What about the US in Afghanistan? Are they committing terrorist activities in your opinion?

339 posted on 09/03/2004 10:27:27 AM PDT by yonif ("So perish all Thine enemies, O the Lord" - Judges 5:31)
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To: Hollywoodghost

First of all, what are your opinions on the US going after Al Queda.

Second of all, Israel can't kill every terrorist, but it can destroy the institutions producing them.

The US didn't defeat the Nazis by killing every member of the Nazi Party.


340 posted on 09/03/2004 10:32:46 AM PDT by yonif ("So perish all Thine enemies, O the Lord" - Judges 5:31)
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