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Bush says war on terror will be won
Guardian ^ | Mark Oliver

Posted on 08/31/2004 10:55:04 AM PDT by arkady_renko

Bush says war on terror will be won

Mark Oliver
Tuesday August 31, 2004

The US president, George Bush, does believe America will win the war on terror after all despite his damaging remarks yesterday to the contrary.

White House spokesman Scott McClellan said today that Mr Bush "will make it crystal clear ... that we will win the war on terrorism by continuing to take the fight to the enemy".

This standpoint was in marked contrast to Mr Bush's comments on NBC television yesterday. He was asked whether America could win its "war on terror", and replied: "I don't think you can win it. But I think you can create conditions so that those who use terror as a tool are less acceptable in parts of the world."

Bush opponents had pounced on the remarks, which were a volte-face from the president's usually more bullish rhetoric about terrorism.

Mr Bush, who has described himself as a "war time president", will further try to repair the damage with a speech tonight in Nashville, Tennessee, to the American Legion, the country's largest veterans organisation.

Asked today by reporters whether the war on terror could be won, the Democratic presidential candidate senator John Kerry replied, "Absolutely".

Senator John Edwards, the Democratic vice-presidential candidate, said yesterday: "After months of listening to the Republicans base their campaign on their singular ability to win the war on terror, the president now says we can't win the war on terrorism."

Some commentators have predicted that homeland security and the threat of terrorism will be the biggest issue at the ballot box in November's presidential elections.

As the four-day Republican national convention headed into its second day at Madison Square Garden in New York under extremely heavy security, Bush supporters scrambled to explain the president's comments.

First lady Laura Bush, who is scheduled to speak at the convention tonight, defended her husband, saying on ABC's Good Morning America that "this isn't a war with a country where you're going to have a surrender at some point, but the fact is, as we look around the world, we are already winning the war on terror".

The governor of California, Arnold Schwarzenegger, is also speaking at the convention tonight and was expected to salute Mr Bush's record as commander in chief.

In yesterday's opening session, Republicans invoked the memory of the September 11 2001 attacks as a test of Mr Bush's mettle as a strong and decisive leader.

Rudolph Giuliani, the former mayor of New York, likened the president to Winston Churchill and Ronald Reagan. He said: "Since September 11th President Bush has remained rock solid ... we need George Bush more than ever."


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From the article:

Senator John Edwards, the Democratic vice-presidential candidate, said yesterday: "After months of listening to the Republicans base their campaign on their singular ability to win the war on terror, the president now says we can't win the war on terrorism."

1 posted on 08/31/2004 10:55:04 AM PDT by arkady_renko
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To: arkady_renko

Democrats are too stupid to realize that terrorism is going to be with us until the end of time; the only way to "win" is to keep fighting.

That being said, I'd love to hear their "plan" to win the war on terrorism.


2 posted on 08/31/2004 11:01:16 AM PDT by Howlin (John Kerry & John Edwards: Political Malpractice)
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So Kerry isn't the only one who flip-flops?


3 posted on 08/31/2004 11:08:13 AM PDT by adamk
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To: adamk

Did Bush vote for it before he voted against it?

Did he say reporting for duty 30 years after saying that he was a war criminal?

Did he say that he was for the Vietnamese and then block the Senate vote to try to pressure Vietnam to cease human rights violation?

Is there going to be a little flag waved by the terrorists when they give up?


4 posted on 08/31/2004 11:10:46 AM PDT by saveliberty (Liberal= in need of therapy, but would rather ruin lives of those less fortunate to feel good)
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To: arkady_renko

This is analogous to having some sort of roach infestation in your house. You can be sure you’ve killed them all, but they’ll always be a threat you need to keep on top off. Bush will get the house tented and take the hurt to them; Kerry will put out some humane traps and hope they leave us alone.


5 posted on 08/31/2004 11:11:07 AM PDT by Flashman_at_the_charge (A proud member of the self-preservation society)
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To: arkady_renko
Mr. Edwards...it is YOUR side kick who is the flip flipping idjit...and ALL of America KNOWS what the message was in GW's declaration on winning a war "against terrorism"...BUT while you are busy ignoring your falling numbers, lousy running mate and messageless campaign we invite you to CONTINUE to harp on GW's words all the while you ignore the inconsistencies in your own party's race for the WH...
6 posted on 08/31/2004 11:11:36 AM PDT by antivenom ("Never argue with an idiot, he'll bring you down to his level - then beat you with experience.")
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To: arkady_renko

Methinks Mr. Edwards is another victim of Bush "strategery." They try to capitalize on a gaffe, and in the end they just end up digging an even deeper hole for themselves. Makes me almost wonder if President Bush does this on purpose, knowing he's setting a trap.


7 posted on 08/31/2004 11:12:50 AM PDT by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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To: adamk; meowmeow; Constitution Day; 4mycountry; Poohbah; Grampa Dave; an amused spectator; ...
So Kerry isn't the only one who flip-flops?

You sign up over a month ago, and this is the first comment you post?

You look an awful lot like a sleeper troll to me.


8 posted on 08/31/2004 11:13:41 AM PDT by VRWCmember (I actually ignored this thread before I posted to it. jfk, 08/2004)
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To: adamk

9 posted on 08/31/2004 11:14:38 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: VRWCmember

Shame to waste a sleeper account on such a lamea** comment.


10 posted on 08/31/2004 11:15:09 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: adamk

Can you hear the lambs?


11 posted on 08/31/2004 11:16:46 AM PDT by PigRigger (Send donations to http://www.AdoptAPlatoon.org)
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To: adamk

12 posted on 08/31/2004 11:17:17 AM PDT by glock rocks (It's stuned, stuned in my memory.)
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To: VRWCmember; adamk

smells trollish around here


13 posted on 08/31/2004 11:23:11 AM PDT by Laura Earl (No rest for the wicked.)
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To: adamk
Just...like...fishin...just...need...to...SET THE HOOK!

A_R

14 posted on 08/31/2004 11:25:04 AM PDT by arkady_renko
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To: adamk; 4mycountry; TheBigB; VRWCmember; Zavien Doombringer; jriemer; mhking; glock rocks; ...
So Kerry isn't the only one who flip-flops?

Ah! Your first post. Welcome to FreeRepublic.com .....



15 posted on 08/31/2004 11:25:06 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: Darksheare

ping


16 posted on 08/31/2004 11:25:25 AM PDT by Laura Earl (No rest for the wicked.)
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To: adamk
Did we win the Cold War in 4 years?

Can we prevent all "lone nut" acts of terrorism in Bali, Israel, et al or do those not meet your consideration for "terrorism" or things to tackle in "the war on terror"?

Or do you just like getting a Walter Cranky-like soundbite of President Bush saying that the war is "now unwinnable"? You do realize that Michael Moore is CHEERING for the other side to win in Iraq and denying that there is even any terrorism over there:

(April 14, 2004):The Iraqis who have risen up against the occupation are not "insurgents" or "terrorists" or "The Enemy." They are the REVOLUTION, the Minutemen, and their numbers will grow -- and they will win. Get it, Mr. Bush?....I oppose the U.N. or anyone else risking the lives of their citizens to extract us from our debacle...the majority of Americans supported this war once it began and, sadly, that majority must now sacrifice their children until enough blood has been let that maybe -- just maybe -- God and the Iraqi people will forgive us in the end.

17 posted on 08/31/2004 11:25:50 AM PDT by weegee (YOU could have been aborted, and you wouldn't have had a CHOICE about it.)
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To: Howlin
Democrats are too stupid to realize that terrorism is going to be with us until the end of time; the only way to "win" is to keep fighting.

Absolutely correct, 100%!

18 posted on 08/31/2004 11:26:01 AM PDT by b4its2late (John John Kerry Edwards change positions more often than a Nevada prostitute!!!)
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To: adamk; fortunecookie; dighton; martin_fierro; cyborg
So Kerry isn't the only one who flip-flops?

No. So does your mama. I found that out last night.

By the way, you might not recognize her next time you see her, I shaved her back.

19 posted on 08/31/2004 11:26:52 AM PDT by Petronski (Complacency is the enemy.)
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To: arkady_renko
Kerry is going down in flames and you're over here arguing semantics. Smooth move ex-lax
20 posted on 08/31/2004 11:28:17 AM PDT by bad company ((<a href="http://www.michaelmoore.com" target="_blank">Hatriotism))
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To: adamk

Bush's first answer assumed to much intelligence of the listener.


21 posted on 08/31/2004 11:28:55 AM PDT by Poincare
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To: arkady_renko

I wonder when Edwards will be corrected for daring to be so warlike?

Are the antiwar maggots in the streets of NYC aware of Edwards's warlike stand?


22 posted on 08/31/2004 11:29:12 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (https://www.swiftvets.com/swift/ccdonation.php?op=donate&site=SwiftVets)
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To: Poincare; arkady_renko
Bush's first answer assumed to much intelligence of the listener.

He does that on occasion doesn't he.

23 posted on 08/31/2004 11:30:57 AM PDT by bad company ((<a href="http://www.michaelmoore.com" target="_blank">Hatriotism))
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To: MeekOneGOP; mhking

Troll alert on aisle #3.

Send the Viking Kitties in for the Zotting and then call up the cleanup mods.


24 posted on 08/31/2004 11:30:58 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (https://www.swiftvets.com/swift/ccdonation.php?op=donate&site=SwiftVets)
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To: adamk

Don't be shy...


25 posted on 08/31/2004 11:31:45 AM PDT by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: Grampa Dave
Done, Grampa. I hit my list on post #15 .....

26 posted on 08/31/2004 11:33:21 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: arkady_renko

Come on sweet cheeks you're still alive, defend yuourself.


27 posted on 08/31/2004 11:33:57 AM PDT by bad company ((<a href="http://www.michaelmoore.com" target="_blank">Hatriotism))
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To: Petronski
I shaved her back.

Quite possibly the best Kinison comeback of all time, ever. < |:)~

28 posted on 08/31/2004 11:36:03 AM PDT by martin_fierro (_____oooo_( )_oooo_____)
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To: VRWCmember; adamk
More like a napper troll. Sleeper Troll requires 6 mos doesn't it?


29 posted on 08/31/2004 11:36:22 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (I'm Conspiracy Guy and I approve this message. "John Kerry is a liar!")
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To: martin_fierro

I just knew you'd get that reference.


30 posted on 08/31/2004 11:37:02 AM PDT by Petronski (Complacency is the enemy.)
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To: MeekOneGOP

Good job.

The trolls remind me of shooting the vermin ridden ground squirrels with a scoped rifle.

They pop their heads up and shriek until we find them for the Zot!

Edweirs's response and this troll's remark show how desparate the trolls and Kerry's Kerrorists are. Only an insane person would have interperted GW's comment as saying we would not win the WOT.


31 posted on 08/31/2004 11:37:08 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (https://www.swiftvets.com/swift/ccdonation.php?op=donate&site=SwiftVets)
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To: Petronski

Coward!

You didn't shave her/its chest.


32 posted on 08/31/2004 11:37:58 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (https://www.swiftvets.com/swift/ccdonation.php?op=donate&site=SwiftVets)
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To: arkady_renko

Strategery, Karl, strategery...


33 posted on 08/31/2004 11:42:46 AM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: adamk

Typical press misleading report. On an earlier thread today, the quote was in reference to his winning the war in the four years of a Bush second term. I welcome someone linking that thread or correcting me if I have mischaracterized the President's comment.


34 posted on 08/31/2004 11:48:00 AM PDT by CedarDave (Viet Nam Vet, USN Coastal Div. 13, Cat Lo, XO USCG patrol boat, 1968: No atrocities on my watch!)
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To: adamk

So long and thanks for all the fish.


35 posted on 08/31/2004 11:48:24 AM PDT by 4CJ (||) Men die by the calendar, but nations die by their character. - John Armor, 5 Jun 2004 (||)
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To: adamk

First post?


36 posted on 08/31/2004 11:51:05 AM PDT by Darksheare (Don't greet customers at the drivethrough with: "We are the Borg, resistance is futile!")
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To: Poincare
Yes. Bush said, "I don't think YOU can win it."
37 posted on 08/31/2004 11:51:47 AM PDT by jwalburg (Hatriots for Kerry)
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To: adamk

"So Kerry isn't the only one who flip-flops?"

Oooh that must have felt sooooooo good. You waited all this time just to get in that comment. Oh you must be soooo proud of yourself that you ran right back over to DU and told them you finally got the Flip Flop remark in. They probably congratulated you for the fine work you did.

I am sure the DNC is going to use this as their key talking point for the next two months. It will probably be better though if they tell their base this while wearing panties on their head.

Forget it troll. This plays into the Republican hands. Just watch what the lamestream media does with this and how Kerry will once again get slammed.

Better start telling your comrades that Hillary is the candidate once Kerry announces that he is dropping out of the race due to health reasons. Don't believe me? Check out his recent pictures. He isn't taking any more botox injections.







38 posted on 08/31/2004 11:51:51 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Control the information given to society and you control society.)
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To: adamk; Americanwolf; AQGeiger; Beaker; BenLurkin; baltodog; big'ol_freeper; ChadGore; Chode; ...

Weapons FREE!!!
39 posted on 08/31/2004 11:51:51 AM PDT by Old Sarge (ZOT 'em all, let MOD sort 'em out!)
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To: Grampa Dave
Edweirds's response and this troll's remark show how desparate the trolls and Kerry's Kerrorists are. Only an insane person would have interperted GW's comment as saying we would not win the WOT.

Yep! Bush was on Rush Limbaugh and Rush asked him to elaborate on that comment. He said the war on Terror was NOT the traditional type war in which it would eventually result in them surrendering and giving up the fight. The Terrorists are NOT a country. They are multiple groups who organize and work on their own and sometimes together. He said he wasn't as clear as he should have been, but his clarification was what I figured he meant.



Hear the Donkey Bray
(RealPlayer)



[Expletive deleted] !!!


40 posted on 08/31/2004 11:53:58 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: adamk

John Kerry is a fake warrior who served merely to pad his resume, turned traitor once back in the states, marries for money, has never had a real job and never will, and his eyes go in opposite directions- see pic of Kerry saluting.


41 posted on 08/31/2004 11:54:01 AM PDT by Darksheare (Don't greet customers at the drivethrough with: "We are the Borg, resistance is futile!")
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To: Darksheare

Must be...looks like the cat has gotten his tongue.


42 posted on 08/31/2004 11:54:10 AM PDT by Laura Earl (No rest for the wicked.)
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To: Laura Earl

It's the only post showing up under 'user posts', and he's been here since July 25 this year.


43 posted on 08/31/2004 11:55:37 AM PDT by Darksheare (Don't greet customers at the drivethrough with: "We are the Borg, resistance is futile!")
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To: Darksheare

It took him that long to come up with such a profound statement.


44 posted on 08/31/2004 11:57:06 AM PDT by Laura Earl (No rest for the wicked.)
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To: Laura Earl

Naah, that was just gas.
Profound will be when he says something more than just 'burp'.
*chuckle*
/ joke.


45 posted on 08/31/2004 11:58:19 AM PDT by Darksheare (Don't greet customers at the drivethrough with: "We are the Borg, resistance is futile!")
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To: Darksheare

Right, profound is more chunky.

:)


46 posted on 08/31/2004 11:59:57 AM PDT by Laura Earl (No rest for the wicked.)
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To: adamk
Hey genius!

How are things over at Dyspeptic Ungulates?

47 posted on 08/31/2004 12:00:01 PM PDT by OSHA (Cheap Shots, Low Blows and Late Hits. Free Delivery. Fast Friendly Service with a Smile!)
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To: adamk

48 posted on 08/31/2004 12:01:41 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Bush took less time to find Saddam that Hillary did to find the Rose Law Firm billing records!)
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To: adamk

Ever heard of the concept of "taken out of context" troll?


49 posted on 08/31/2004 12:03:21 PM PDT by EggsAckley (........."YO" is "OY" spelled backwards.........)
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To: Laura Earl

LOL!


50 posted on 08/31/2004 12:03:50 PM PDT by Darksheare (Don't greet customers at the drivethrough with: "We are the Borg, resistance is futile!")
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