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Today Cheers Arnold, Stephie Admits Kerry's in Trouble, CBS Discovers RNC - What a Morning!

Posted on 09/01/2004 5:08:16 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest

Wow! What an action-packed half-hour on the morning news shows! My remote is still smoking.

Let's start with Today. When it comes to Arnold, there's a strange dynamic at NBC. Their visceral hatred of Republicans is at war with the fact that Arnold is of course married to Maria Shriver, one of NBC's own, and someone who I sense is a social circle friend of Katie Couric.

So from Katie to Campbell Brown to Tim Russert, Arnold received rave reviews. Among the Today 'thumbs up': "the crowd loved Arnold," "an unforgettable national debut with a very optimistic message."

Russert in particular was glowing: "He sure did have star power and cross-over appeal. He can speak to average people, Hispanics, white guys in Flint Michigan [isn't that Moore's home town?], telling them it's OK to be Republican, the big issue is the war on terror I'm with the President, it's OK for you to be so too."

I can't recall if it was Katie or Tim, but one of them set up a potential problem for Arnold and the Republicans, only to knock it down. "Dems look at Arnold's claims of a compassionate GOP that and say that there is a conflicting message. Arnold describes a compassionate party, but on affirmative action, programs for the poor, etc. the Dems would argue the Republicans are not as generous."

To which Russert responded, "but Arnold would say, 'that's OK, you can make it on your own, I didnt speak English till I was 20 and still was able to make it in this country.' It's a very powerful message."

Katie did look for the down side when she fretted that Arnold's 'red meat' line that "you are a Republican if you believe this country and not the UN is the best hope for the world" conflicts with our country's need to engage the UN and foreign allies in rebuilidng Iraq, etc.

Katie is obviously worried about the impact Zell Miller will have tonight. She tried to devalue him as a messenger by asking: "is he really a Dem?" Russert didn't give the answer Katie was looking for: "He'll be able to say: I was a Dem governor, I'm a Dem senator. He'll have a lot of currency tonight."

Katie wondered whether Dick Cheney is going to serve up a lot of red meat tonight or if we'll hear a kinder gentler Cheney. Russert said he'd be both. "There'll be a lot of slicing and dicing of Kerry on foreign policy. That's how Cheney really feels. But he'll also be avuncular."

As mentioned in the headline, CBS finally discovered the RNC. You'll recall that yesterday they chose not to devote a single segment in the crucial half-hour to the RNC. This morning, Charles Smith interviewed Lynne Cheney and one of her daughters, Elizabeth (not the gay one, Mary).

The entire thrust of Smith's interview was to attempt to stir up division and bad feelings among Republicans.

"Is it disappointing to be involved in controversy?"

"What your father said on gay marriage was very dissapointing to conservatives in the party."

Then some false 'personal' concern: "How is Mary [the gay daughter] doing amidst all of this?"

"What do you understand that cultural Christians don't understand."

With grace and intelligence, the Cheney's strode through the mine field Smith had laid, without a misstep.

An aside: fairness dictates, since we are quick to observe this about Dem women, that it appeared to me that Lynne Cheney has had some cosmetic surgery. She did look very nice.

Perhaps the most telling moment of the morning was the coffee klatch between Diane Sawyer and George Stephanopolous at GMA.

George admitted that Kerry is "angry with his staff." Apparently the poll numbers that worry them the most are W's approval ratings which are now solidly over 50%, and the fact that Kery went from a sizeable post-DNC advantage to a sizeable deficit on who would make the better commander-in-chief.

Steph said the Dems have a three-pronged strategy: 1. Kerry's speech at the American Legion, where he'll give a tough critique on Iraq and try to exploit W's recent statement on the winnability of the war. 2. A major advertising buy on domestic issues; and 3. A rapid response team. Many new people are being brought in but no one is being fired.

Fretted Sawyer, effectively acknowledging that Kerry is in deep trouble: "Can he turn it around or is it too late?" Steph: "It's not too late, the race is still tied. The next big moment is the debates."

Another aside: GMA then moved from former Clinton advisor Steph, to son-of-Mario Chris, who gave a report on security at the convention. Gee, who says the MSM have a liberal bias?

Finally, back at Today, Katie interviewed former Nebraska Sen. Bob Kerrey. Aside: with his faux-Caesar hair cut and suntan, Kerrey is looking more and more like a third-rate Frank Sinatra impersonator. I was waiting for him to burst into "Strangers in the Night."

The thrust of Kerrey's argument was that the Republicans are being too mean to John Kerry. W should thank Kerry for his support on Iraq rather than scorning and ridiculing him as a waffler.

To Katie's credit, she did ask: "what about not supporting the $87 billion?" Kerrey moved on quickly without really answering.

But in trying to argue that John Kerry has been been "steadfast," Bob Kerrey might have created another flip-flop controversy. Kerrey claimed that Kerry would have supported the Iraq resolution "even if he knew what we know today," [i.e., the lack of discovered WMDs]. But wait a minute! Jamie Rubin said that about Kerry a week ago, but then was forced to apologize and say it's not true. Now Kerrey seems to be resurrecting the claim. So which is it?

Katie then raised W's statement in the Lauer interview about the winnability of the war. "Is it a tempest in a teapot?" Kerrey: "Nothing to it except that the Republicans have been whacking Kerry for being a waffler and flip flopper." The problem for the Dems: everyone knows it was not a flip flop by W.

Finally, Katie raised the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth: "how do you feel about the controversy?"

Interestingly, Kerrey didn't claim it was a W campaign set-up. To the contrary, he said the Swiftees "hate" Kerry for his 1971 testimony. That suggests their ads are authentic. Still he agreed with Katie that W for some reason should condemn the ads more strongly. Katie 'forgot' to ask if Kerry should condemn the Move-on.org ads or Fahrenheit 911.

All in all, a good morning for W. The convention played to strong reviews, Kerry was depicted angry and in trouble, and CBS' attempt to trip up the Cheney's fell flat on its face.


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1 posted on 09/01/2004 5:08:17 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: Behind Liberal Lines; Miss Marple; an amused spectator; netmilsmom; Diogenesis; YaYa123; MEG33; ...

Multi-morning-show ping to the Today Show ping list.


2 posted on 09/01/2004 5:09:05 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Finally, Katie raised the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth: "how do you feel about the controversy?" Interestingly, Kerrey didn't claim it was a W campaign set-up. To the contrary, he said the Swiftees "hate" Kerry for his 1971 testimony. That suggests their ads are authentic.

I wonder: Perhaps Kerrey also resents Kerry's 1971 testimony? Could he be supporting his party's nominee through somewhat clenched teeth?

3 posted on 09/01/2004 5:12:41 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: governsleastgovernsbest; DrewsDad; HiJinx; MeekOneGOP; Gracey; anymouse; SwinneySwitch; ...
Fretted Sawyer, effectively acknowledging that Kerry is in deep trouble: "Can he turn it around or is it too late?" Steph: "It's not too late, the race is still tied. The next big moment is the debates."

Kerry has admitted that Bush is an excellent debater. If Steph thinks he can win the debates, kerry has already started with on foot in the mud. BTW Steph, the race is NOT tied anymore.

4 posted on 09/01/2004 5:13:36 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Vote for kerry.< /sarcasm> Well, he has been on both sides of every issue.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

You've whetted my appetite..I'll peek....briefly...;) Thanks for the report!


5 posted on 09/01/2004 5:14:31 AM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry has been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Good report--I watched an interview of Lynne and Elizabeth Cheney by Bill Hemmer on CNN. Right out of the blocks, Hemmer asked them to comment on Alan Keyes' description of homosexuals as "selfish hedonists." Elizabeth handled the question deftly--essentially not dignifying it with a answer, then quoted her father on his love for both of his daughters.


6 posted on 09/01/2004 5:14:46 AM PDT by Catspaw
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Perhaps Kerrey also resents Kerry's 1971 testimony? Could he be supporting his party's nominee through somewhat clenched teeth?

Very interesting thought. Could well be. Can there be any doubt that Bob Kerrey thinks he's a better man than John Kerry?

7 posted on 09/01/2004 5:15:39 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
glgb:

Thanks as always. Where do we send our contributions for your DVR?

8 posted on 09/01/2004 5:16:05 AM PDT by The G Man (Hi, Mark! I see you watching me!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

I can't bear to watch them anymore so thanks for the great report.


9 posted on 09/01/2004 5:17:03 AM PDT by NewYorker
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Good Job!! Thanks for the overview, gov.


10 posted on 09/01/2004 5:17:21 AM PDT by toomanygrasshoppers ("Hold on to your hats.....it's going to be a bumpy night")
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Arnold's speech was pretty good for a RINO.


11 posted on 09/01/2004 5:17:46 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: MEG33

You might want to make a special effort to catch the Sawyer/Stephie chat. I think it was the most telling. Steph obviously has excellent sources inside the Kerry campaign, and the picture clearly emerges of a desperate, angry Kerry and a campaign in tatters, sensing that it's going down.


12 posted on 09/01/2004 5:17:46 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
"Bob Kerrey might have created another flip-flop controversy. Kerrey claimed that Kerry would have supported the Iraq resolution "even if he knew what we know today," [i.e., the lack of discovered WMDs]. But wait a minute! Jamie Rubin said that about Kerry a week ago, but then was forced to apologize and say it's not true."

Is that true?

Did the Kerry camp really back away from that position? I have to be honest here, and I (like most FReepers) pay real close attention to this stuff ... but I really and trully have NO IDEA what Kerry's position on Iraq is.

13 posted on 09/01/2004 5:18:16 AM PDT by The G Man (Hi, Mark! I see you watching me!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Great recap, as always!

Many new people are being brought in (to Kerry campaign) but no one is being fired.

The Kerry Campaign must by a Top 10 employer in this country by now. During the Berger flap, it was noted that he had 100's of "advisors".

14 posted on 09/01/2004 5:18:22 AM PDT by randita
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
What a morning indeed..
Arnold had hypnotized "all the beasts"..that might be a first.

WE may have to change the constitution :)

15 posted on 09/01/2004 5:18:46 AM PDT by evad (We are free to draw our conclusions as to who's credible.I can't help it if your perception is wrong)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Thanks for the synopsis.


16 posted on 09/01/2004 5:19:42 AM PDT by hoosiermama (NAM Vet's Revenge.......It's about time.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Just switched to it.


17 posted on 09/01/2004 5:20:12 AM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry has been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security)
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To: The G Man

"Thanks as always. Where do we send our contributions for your DVR?"


LOL. Thanks. In lieu thereof, I'd invite everyone to support the Swift Boat Vets:

https://www.swiftvets.com/swift/ccdonation.php?op=donate&site=SwiftVets


18 posted on 09/01/2004 5:20:30 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
"It's not too late, the race is still tied."

It is NOT tied. I don't think it ever really was! Bush has it all over Kerry and it will be more and more obvious as we go along. Character REALLY counts!!
19 posted on 09/01/2004 5:21:05 AM PDT by SMARTY ('Stay together, pay the soldiers, forget everything else." Lucius Septimus Severus, to his sons)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Thanks...I look for this ping every morning. ;^)


20 posted on 09/01/2004 5:21:26 AM PDT by DCPatriot
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Thank you thank you! I don't have to watch again.


21 posted on 09/01/2004 5:22:03 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
"What do you understand that cultural Christians don't understand."


Talk about your loaded questions. "Share with us your deep wisdom on the true nature of human sexuality, which Christians are obviously lacking in, being the ignorant savages that they are."
22 posted on 09/01/2004 5:22:32 AM PDT by Green Knight (Looking forward to seeing Jeb stepping over Hillary's rotting political corpse in 2008.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Can there be any doubt that Bob Kerrey thinks he's a better man than John Kerry?

Most men believe they are better than John Kerry. They are absolutely correct.

23 posted on 09/01/2004 5:22:55 AM PDT by TruthShallSetYouFree
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To: Arrowhead1952
the race is NOT tied anymore.

Here's hoping, and it still may come down to turnout; The Dems are very angry this year....That may be good for a couple of points by itself.

It is all very scary....Kerry would be an absolute disaster for our nation.

24 posted on 09/01/2004 5:23:14 AM PDT by Tom Bombadil
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To: The G Man

"Did the Kerry camp really back away from that position? I have to be honest here, and I (like most FReepers) pay real close attention to this stuff ... but I really and trully have NO IDEA what Kerry's position on Iraq is."

That's OK..Kerry doesn't either...;)


25 posted on 09/01/2004 5:23:33 AM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry has been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
The thrust of Kerrey's argument was that the Republicans are being too mean to John Kerry.

His butt is probably still sore from the stomping Kristinn and Dr. Raoul gave him.

26 posted on 09/01/2004 5:23:45 AM PDT by rabidralph (Arm Tibet!)
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To: Catspaw

I love the Cheney's way of dealing with their daughter's homosexuality. What does the MSM expect them to do, denounce and then disown her? That Liz is a beautiful, articulate woman. She reminds me so much of her mother.


27 posted on 09/01/2004 5:24:01 AM PDT by Trust but Verify (Charter member Broken Glass Republicans (2000))
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
But he'll also be avuncular.

Cheney avuncular bump.

28 posted on 09/01/2004 5:24:02 AM PDT by Rightwing Conspiratr1 (Lock-n-load!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Steph obviously has excellent sources inside the Kerry campaign, and the picture clearly emerges of a desperate, angry Kerry and a campaign in tatters, sensing that it's going down.

Mistress H is making her move. This smells just like the Dean takedown in January.

Steffi has his orders...

29 posted on 09/01/2004 5:24:23 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Hillary becomes the RAT candidate on October 9. You saw it here first.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

I said it a few days ago! The media will cry that the GOPers are being too mean to Kerry. They are SO damn predictable!


30 posted on 09/01/2004 5:24:33 AM PDT by rintense (Results matter.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Once again, no "in office" Dems supporting Kerry. Who did they have to rely on "former Nebraska Sen. Bob Kerrey."
31 posted on 09/01/2004 5:25:38 AM PDT by dawn53
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To: randita

Yeah I heard this morning they are pulling out the Clinton advisors


32 posted on 09/01/2004 5:25:41 AM PDT by LittleMoe
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

thanks for the (as usual) terrific summary.

And as for this comment by Stephanopoulos: "The next big moment is the debates."

All I can say is, bring them on. ;)


33 posted on 09/01/2004 5:26:31 AM PDT by proud American in Canada
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To: The G Man

"Did the Kerry camp really back away from that position? [that Kerry would have voted for the Iraq resolution even knowing what we know about WMD]?"


Yes, Rubin, who made the statement, was forced to backtrack. Check out this excerpt from a Washington Post article:

"A top national security adviser to John F. Kerry said yesterday that he made a mistake when he said the Democratic nominee probably would have launched a military invasion to oust Saddam Hussein if he had been president during the past four years."

Here's a link to the article: "Comments on Iraq War In Error, Says Kerry Aide"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A29593-2004Aug24.html


34 posted on 09/01/2004 5:26:37 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

They love "moderates".


35 posted on 09/01/2004 5:26:47 AM PDT by Finalapproach29er ({about the news media} "We'll tell you any sh** you want hear" : Howard Beale --> NETWORK)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Thanks for your excellent review of the morning shows.

I can never bring myself to even surf by the alphabets in the morning.

This morning I heard IMUS on the radio and he had Papa Bush on.....and IMUS said he is now Independent....

So the old media is seeing the future and it's Dubya.

Maybe they too figured out that the safety of their children is at stake and Kerry's not up to the job.

36 posted on 09/01/2004 5:26:50 AM PDT by OldFriend (WAR IS THE REMEDY OUR ENEMIES HAVE CHOSEN)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
All this after Chris Matthews closing remark last night:
'God help John Kerry!'
37 posted on 09/01/2004 5:26:53 AM PDT by Brasil ("The cause of freedom is in good hands." GWB)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Don't forget last year when Kerrey was accused of being a Viet Nam war criminal. No doubt that caused him great personal angst (well deserved).


38 posted on 09/01/2004 5:27:39 AM PDT by OldFriend (WAR IS THE REMEDY OUR ENEMIES HAVE CHOSEN)
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To: Green Knight

Exactly. A loathsome, loaded question, intended to lure the Cheney's into a war with social conservatives.


39 posted on 09/01/2004 5:27:55 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Aren't you worried now that Kerry's bringing Joe Lockheart to save the day! LOLOLOL


40 posted on 09/01/2004 5:29:10 AM PDT by OldFriend (WAR IS THE REMEDY OUR ENEMIES HAVE CHOSEN)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

A little birdie has been chirping in my ear.

Little birdie says, "Cheney might step down to preserve unity of his family (gay issues)"

Little birdie says, "Rudy G. thinks he can win in 2008"

Tweet tweet!


41 posted on 09/01/2004 5:29:29 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever ("The message of the Cross is foolishness to those who are perishing...")
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Careful what you wish for - this could be the first sign that Hillary's torpedo is in the water.


42 posted on 09/01/2004 5:29:49 AM PDT by brewcrew
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To: Green Knight
cultural Christians

As opposed to?........True Christians?.....Charles Smith is now an expert on genuine Christianity?

Somehow I don't think so.

43 posted on 09/01/2004 5:30:04 AM PDT by Tom Bombadil
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To: Trust but Verify
I love the Cheney's way of dealing with their daughter's homosexuality. What does the MSM expect them to do, denounce and then disown her? That Liz is a beautiful, articulate woman. She reminds me so much of her mother.

Both Cheney women handled Hemmer well on this question, even though he was trying to trap them.

I had read the article about Keyes' comments about homosexuality in general and Mary Cheney in particular in the Chicago Tribune before I saw the interview, so I was curious as to how Hemmer would question them on it (that he wouldn't question them wasn't a consideration, at least for CNN), and they handled it with great grace. I was reaching for my stash of small stuffed toys that I throw at the screen, but the interview ended.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/specials/elections/conventions/rnc/chi-0409010139sep01.story

44 posted on 09/01/2004 5:30:07 AM PDT by Catspaw
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To: OldFriend
Aren't you worried now that Kerry's bringing Joe Lockhart to save the day! LOLOLOL

My personal love-to-hate Dem advisor is Chris Lehane. There's also some guy on the campaign who often turns up on TV who, I swear, always looks like he's just smelled something very bad. I'll try to think of his name and post a photo.

45 posted on 09/01/2004 5:31:42 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: dawn53
Once again, no "in office" Dems supporting Kerry..

No..they're supporting Bush...ala, Tom Da$$hole.

46 posted on 09/01/2004 5:32:09 AM PDT by evad (We are free to draw our conclusions as to who's credible.I can't help it if your perception is wrong)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Can there be any doubt that Bob Kerrey thinks he's a better man than John Kerry? Bob may be a bit of a wanker and partisan, but the man comes across as believing what he says even though he may need mint flavored shoes often. Clenched teeth may be an accurate description of Bob. He likes to say what he thinks and must be biting his tongue really hard over Kerry.
47 posted on 09/01/2004 5:33:54 AM PDT by numberonepal (Whatever happened to freedom, liberty, and capitalism?)
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To: Brasil

You mean the MSM isn't God? I was thinking they heard Chirs's prayer.


48 posted on 09/01/2004 5:35:48 AM PDT by jennyjenny
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Katie 'forgot' to ask if Kerry should condemn the Move-on.org ads or Fahrenheit 911.

That is the problem with Katie, she always forgets then looks into the camera and smiles as if she knows it's a one way media biased interview.

Will see how she interviews Michael Moore.

Thanks for the post as always...

49 posted on 09/01/2004 5:36:22 AM PDT by Major_Risktaker ("Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Those Who Threaten It.")
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To: evad
Dems supporting Bush, a la Tom Daschle.


50 posted on 09/01/2004 5:36:24 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
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