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Mosque, Arab targets attacked in Nepal after 12 workers murdered in Iraq
AFP ^ | Sept. 1, 2004

Posted on 09/01/2004 7:48:14 AM PDT by Alouette

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To: alberuni

"When I saw these Freepers advocating violence, pogroms, and mob terrorism against Muslims, as in Nepal today, I thought, as an American, that I should point out how bigoted and wrong it is to persecute people based on their religion. What a waste of time. They are as fanatic as the terrorists they hate so much. It's as if they are mirror images of each other.

I do have better things to do and won't continue wasting my time. Let them fester in their ignorance. It's all they will ever accomplish."

I suggest you read a little about Islam before you criticize people who oppose it.

For instance, the University of Michigan has a website which lists various historical books, including the Quran. You can go there and plug in a word into the search engine and it pulls out all passages in the book which contain that word. I suggest you plug in "unbelievers", "Christians" and "Jews" in the section that covers the Quran.

You might be surprised by the results.

In addition to the Quran, you might decide to read something about the Haddiths, Islamic history and contemporary Islamic governments and Islamic politico-religious movements.

Although Christianity has had its episodes of violence and intolerance in the past, NOWHERE in its most fundamental document - the New Testament - has such behavior been encouraged or condoned. On the contrary, it has been condemned again and again. And contemporary Christianity is outstanding in its general humanity and tolerance.

Even in the Old Testament, violence against unbelievers by the Israelites was extremely restricted, and the Jews throughout the history of persecution by other groups,
right up to the present, have been outstanding advocates of tolerance and non-violence.

Such is not the case with Islam.

The Founder of Islam was a fighter and a killer and a slaver, not a prophet and martyr. Islam advocates the use of violence as a means of spreading its belief system. It calls for the death sentence for anyone who attempts to convert a Muslim and the death sentence for any Muslim who converts.

It divides humanity into two groups - the "House of Peace" in which Islam is the established religion and all other faiths are reduced to secondary or tertiary class status and its practitioners deprived of equal protection before the law, killed, or driven out, and the "House of War". The "House of War' consists of all non-Islamic controlled territory which is the subject of attack to reduce it to Islamic control and its inhabitants to Dhimmitude or forced conversion.

Islam is replete with bizaar and oppressive rules and regulations like treating women as second class chattels, dogs as "unclean" animals, and a theocratic society in which religous laws are imposed on all residents regardless of faith as the norm.

Today, ALL non-Muslims are increasingly under attack by reinvigorated Islamic fanatics who wage war against non-Muslims through terrorism, theocratic tyranny, subversion and invasion.

Its hardly surprising that you witness here and in countries subject to this kind of mindless and vicious assault by practitioners of this cult the type of reactions which you personally find so offensive. Such behavior will increase as more and more non-Islamic individuals are effected by this growing menace.

To be sure, most Muslims are not terrorists and most Muslims are not personally involved in the reprehensible actions of these groups. But unless and until a sizable number of Muslims decide to "modernize" their faith by becoming more tolerant, less violent, and more proactive in condemning and opposing their fellow correligionists who are guilty of these acts, you can hardly expect the non-Muslim world to view Islam in anything but a negative light.

Thus far this has not occurred and the majority of Muslims, although not actively participating in these activities, have neither opposed nor condemned them. And their silence speaks volumes.


301 posted on 09/03/2004 9:47:59 AM PDT by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns)
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To: alberuni
I am no Muslim / Bible scholar but I know that the Old Testament and the Quran both contain harsh punishments, stories of war and a lot of begetting and begatting.

The difference is that the OLD TEstament records the history of these killings, the NEW TESTAMENT says love one another. The KoRN saysKill theInfidels
302 posted on 09/03/2004 9:49:59 AM PDT by Cronos (W2K4)
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To: USMMA_83
Every damn muslim in India and Pakistan is a forcably converted Muslim. Pakistan started off with 15% Hindus, now they are down to 2% - where did they all go?

Chop chop goes the sword.....
303 posted on 09/03/2004 9:52:03 AM PDT by Cronos (W2K4)
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To: jaykay; r9etb; alberuni; Yehuda; Alouette
Nepal's Muslims have caused no problems to Nepal

Most Muslims, however, just want to be left alone, and they're not really interested in fighting a world war.


That's 'cause those "peaceful" ones are the ones living in lands that do NOT have a large % of slammies. When they do get the numbers tehy get a bit uppity. Don't allow the slammies in the WEst. I say boot every slammie out of Europe, the Americas, Russia, India, China, the Phillipines, boot them to Saudi A
304 posted on 09/03/2004 9:55:49 AM PDT by Cronos (W2K4)
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To: sheik yerbouty
And the Kaaba in Mecca looks just like a Borg cube.hmmmmm....



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305 posted on 09/03/2004 9:58:36 AM PDT by Cronos (W2K4)
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To: alberuni

Not exactly -- it's more like "du müss Konvertieren"


308 posted on 09/03/2004 10:22:23 AM PDT by Cronos (W2K4)
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To: Cronos
Well, the spanish were the only western europeans to kick out the slammies.

True. Too bad they decided to roll-over this time. El Cid must be spinning in his grave.

309 posted on 09/03/2004 11:49:56 AM PDT by PsyOp (John Kerry—a .22 Rimfire Short in a .44 Magnum world.)
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To: Alouette
Why didn't the Nepalese blame Bush for the murder of the hostages? Oh yeah, they don't get ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC, CNN to explain it to them... they have to think for themselves.

Other than that, very typical of the red border of Islam.

310 posted on 09/03/2004 11:52:38 AM PDT by Dr.Deth
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To: alberuni
There is no connection between the Iraqi terrorists who killed Nepalis and the Nepali Muslims who are being attacked by mobs.

You mean, besides Islam?

311 posted on 09/03/2004 11:58:44 AM PDT by Dr.Deth
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To: Alouette
Maybe we ought to let Irate Nepali Buddhists to the head of the Immigration line in the US.

We could use a few thousand over here to stir up moral indignation after Islamofascist attacks on our own people--beheadings, bombings and the like...rather than the usual pu**y, politically correct American response tempered by over benevolence and self-restraint. "Oh, we pray for the souls of the victims. This was such a 'tragedy'. Maybe the perpretrators can be reasoned with. What makes them tick?" idiotic nonsense.

312 posted on 09/03/2004 12:05:33 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Kerry Predicted in 1971 "No Bloodbath in Cambodia". TWO MILLION then died: April '75 to January '79)
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To: Cronos

"alberuni" met the Viking Kitties.


313 posted on 09/03/2004 12:08:48 PM PDT by Alouette (My son, the IDF soldier, on guard for Israel)
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To: itsamelman

The official policy of the United States Government toward terrorism has been quoted so many times in the media as one of "no negotiation" toward terrorist elements. Fine. Very well then, how do we get the highest leadership in the USMC's sniper's crosshairs?

Very well to post a picture, now how do we acquire the real time physical location information, of, for example, Osama (Usama) Bin Laden? If you can provide the GPS coordinates of OBL or other senior AQ leadership, please, please, post this to "all"... Thanks


314 posted on 09/03/2004 7:42:53 PM PDT by Bald Eagle777 ("Ten out of ten terrorists agree, anybody but Bush." - http://www.authenticgop.com/)
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To: Bald Eagle777
Wow, what's eating you? Did they cancel bingo tonight or does Clinton's bypass have you all knotted up?

The picture does not depict terrorist's "highest leadership." Reading the odd combination of letters below the picture ("words") clarifies that fact.

I will be sure to pass on those OBL GPS coordinates once I get them from Secret Agents Woodchuck & Graysquirrel. Until then, and long after, there will be a lot of rabid dogs to deal with. For anyone too challenged to grasp the subtlety, that was the point.
315 posted on 09/03/2004 8:35:06 PM PDT by itsamelman (“Announcing your plans is a good way to hear God laugh.” -- Al Swearengen)
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To: sheik yerbouty

Excellent classical allusion. I immediately picked up on that. Good job. Rock on!


316 posted on 09/04/2004 11:41:03 AM PDT by Bald Eagle777 ("Ten out of ten terrorists agree, anybody but Bush." -www.authenticgop.com)
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To: itsamelman

No, I was not responding directly to your alleged "sublety," nor are you subtle. Don’t flatter or fool yourself. Get over it. Keep trying, practice works, in some cases. There may yet be hope for you? Good luck. You will definitely need it.

BTW: ditch the irrelevant unfounded ad hominem attacks, it does not suit you well. Keep that in mind, for the future.


317 posted on 09/04/2004 12:11:10 PM PDT by Bald Eagle777 ("Do not fire, unless fired upon.")
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To: Bald Eagle777
Thanks for the sage advice, newbie, and I'll let you know as soon as I have some available space to "sublet".

As a kid I used to be kind of scared of clowns, now I pretty much just ignore 'em.
318 posted on 09/04/2004 11:30:47 PM PDT by itsamelman (“Announcing your plans is a good way to hear God laugh.” -- Al Swearengen)
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