Posted on 09/01/2004 8:44:51 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
Here it is two months before the election and there's not much to look forward to. That's because Kerry's campaign is collapsing faster than the Cubs do every year. Absent a colossal Bush blunder, it's all over except for the finger pointing.
The controversy generated by the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth has had significant impact. Questions about Kerry's Christmas in Cambodia, and whether one of his Purple Heart wounds was self-inflicted didn't boost his electibility.
Look back, however, and we can see how Fere Jacques' rendezvous with failure has been developing. There have been and continue to be signs of imminent disaster.
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We have to carry on as if Bush is behind just as he was weeks ago.
Complacency kills.
Yep, the opposition to President Bush is pure hatred. That opposition never equated to Kerry support. Heck, their biggest slogan, as we all know, is Anyone But Bush.
Can't let up on them, or believe we have it made.
Polling is still too close in many states.
One significant screw-up by either candidate can sway the election. It is far from over, yet.
"We have to carry on as if Bush is behind just as he was weeks ago."
Actually, we need to maximize the vote to landslide proportions that the 'rats will never again run a pinko commie lying bedwetter like sKerry.
Blessings, Bobo
Conventional wisdom says, a majority of undecided voters break for the challenger in the closing days of the election.
Former Gov William Weld says don't underestimate John Kerry. He's a good debater and a strong finisher.
The election remains very close and right now the last thing the Bush campaign team wants to see are people getting overconfident.
We have to carry on as if Bush is behind just as he was weeks ago.
Complacency kills.
There will be plenty of time to celebrate AFTER we win this election.
He cannot be allowed to implode too quickly, otherwise Hillary comes to the rescue. And if the thought of Kerry becoming president scares you, this one might cause you to eat your gun.
You are absolutely correct, don't count your chickens before they hatch
Rasmussen shows both at 47%.
Don't forget that about half of America is brain-dead, having voted for Klintoon and AlBore.
While I agree things are certainly looking up, it's too early to say it's over. Kerry was virtually dead in the primary campaign yet rallied. Kerry was virtually beaten by Weld in 1996 yet rallied to win. To get back to baseball analogies, it's never over till it's over!
Roger that.
Worse, if Kerry pulls a tearful Gary Hart moment (oh, around October 5th) and there is a major terrorist attack, Hillary will run and could win. She'd cite open borders and poor protection of the homeland chasing after Saddam to satisfy a personal vendetta (giving her an excuse for crushing civil liberties if she won). The media noise would be so loud there would be no opportunity to remind a vulnerable public of her record or where she stands.
Don't think for a minute that it is beyond the Democrats to go behind closed doors to replace that silly chump Kerry with their dream candidate. She has the money and is ready to go. Clinton people are pre-positioned in Kerry's campaign. The transition to the Hildabeast would be virtually seamless. If Kerry makes it to the finish line despite the Clinton sabotage, she still has her options open for 2008.
Yea....whatever....
I agree with you. Kerry is going to put out $45 million dollars worth of new ads next week. We have to be vigilent and make sure Bush gets elected. We can't let our guard down for one minute!
I'm not being complacent Maceman. It energizes the troops, makes the opponent do stupid things, it depresses the vote for Kerry and besides, no one on the Right is going to take this anyway but serious after Algore.
Adding to the candidate's headaches is his extraordinary lack of warmth. If he's got a personality, he's holding back on it for an October surprise.
Love the understatement.
The old saying "It isn't over until the fat lady sings" really fits here. We should keep at em until the election, and even after that because remember what they did in 2000?? If they lose, and they will, lawyers and all...to try and say there was election fraud and all the rest. THere were more than eight states close in the 2000 election and I think the DNC stole votes in all of those states. I work elections in my state and I saw them at work here. If that doesn't work, the DNC already has plans to try and impeach President Bush when he wins. They will use Abu Ghriab prison garbage as their reason.
I still believe that Kerry sold his soul to Hillary for the Secretary of State job.
I still believe that Edwards sold his soul to Hillary for the Attorney General Job.
I still believe that Wes Clark sold his soul to Hillary for the Secretary of Defense Job.
I still believe that Terry McAuliffe sold his soul to Hillary for the Chief of Staff position.
We may still wake up on November 3 and find out that the entire dynamic of this country has changed.
Let's pray it doesn't. Register two friends to vote.
Right now I admit I'm feeling pretty good about Bush's chances too. And I am drawing encouragement by listening to the whining, anger and denial at DU.
I just think we should lose site of the fact that this race is NOT over.
"He cannot be allowed to implode too quickly, otherwise Hillary comes to the rescue."
It will literally never happen at this point. Withdrawing a candidate would result in a monstrous landslide for his opponent. Hillary is far too smart to get involved in something that will make her lose an election 60-40% or more.
Kerry is already on the ballot most everywhere. It is over, he is the candidate.
True enough, but that would be not be the wisest thing for her to do right now, as this story is still brewing...
08/24/04 - HOLLYWOOD fundraiser who organised events featuring such celebrities as former US president Bill Clinton was today jailed for more than five years for fraud. Aaron Tonken, 38, was sentenced to 63 months behind bars after admitting fraudulently diverting hundreds of thousands of dollars destined for charity galas and using the cash to pay off his own credit card bills.When you read the background stories below, please keep in mind Tonken's "secret plea deal"...< snip >
During his time as a top fundraiser, Tonken helped arrange events for Mr Clinton and his wife, Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton in August 2000. Tonken struck a secret plea deal with prosecutors that resulted in today's sentencing by US District Judge Dale Fischer in Los Angeles.
04/19/04 - The Federal Election Commission has opened a formal probe into a star-studded Aug. 12, 2000 Hollywood fundraiser for then-first lady Hillary Clinton's Senate campaign, Fox News Channel reported on Sunday. And some say the development is at least partly responsible for Sen. Clinton's claim that she's not interested in joining John Kerry's presidential ticket.The allegations themselves are not new: Two of the event's organizers, Hollywood producer Peter Paul and charity fundraiser Aaron Tonken, have detailed a series of transactions undertaken in conjunction with Hillary's campaign that could violate FEC regulations, with Paul charging that the campaign failed to report nearly $2 million he spent producing the event.
But months before Paul was returned to the U.S. to stand trial in the stock case, Hollywood fundraiser Aaron Tonken began cooperating with federal probers. Tonken has said that he's a star witness against the Clintons in a federal grand jury probe in New York into Mr. Clinton's Marc Rich pardon - and has been cooperating with the U.S. attorney in Los Angeles who's probing his fundraising activities.
FEC Heat Hurts Hillary's VP Chances
New York Sen. Hillary Clinton surely hopes that history isn't repeating itself with the raid conducted by the FBI last month on another warehouse; this one chock full of documents from her 2000 Senatorial campaign."The documents were seized in a May 30 raid of a California storage facility containing documents of Peter Paul, the entrepreneur who funded Hillary Clinton's Senate campaign with over $2 million dollars in direct, in-kind contributions which were never reported by Hillary Clinton or her Senate campaign, as required by law," revealed the public interest law firm Judicial Watch in a press release late last week.
FBI Raids Hillary's Warehouse in Whitewater Deja Vu
The Bush administration has quietly done an about-face on allegations that New York Sen. Hillary Clinton broke campaign finance laws in 2000 - with the Justice Department preparing to extradite one-time Clinton fund-raiser Peter Paul to the U.S. as part of a plea deal for his testimony. The sudden action on Paul's case comes just weeks after reports surfaced that former Hollywood fund-raiser Aaron Tonken has supplied damaging testimony about Hillary Clinton's fund-raising practices.
"I'm a star witness against President and Mrs. Clinton," Tonken claimed in a recent report on his case in Vanity Fair magazine, explaining that prosecutors wanted his testimony about" "fundraising activities that I've done on behalf of the Clintons." The exact nature of Tonken's allegations against Sen. Clinton remains secret, the magazine said. But the celebrity moneyman is known to have been involved in the August 2000 fund raiser that is at the heart of Peter Paul's allegations.
Peter F. Paul, the flamboyant Hollywood entrepreneur who says Hillary Rodham Clinton has hidden almost $2 million of in-kind contributions he made to her campaign in 2000, is back from Brazil and promising to raise a ruckus about the New York senator as he fights bizarre securities and bank-fraud charges on which he's been indicted. Aaron Tonken, a political operative in Hollywood and a former protégé of Paul under indictment for a variety of alleged sharp deals with the rich and famous, also is promising to tell everything he knows about behind-the-scenes shenanigans of Clinton and many others.
Clintons' Fall Guy May Turn the Tables (Peter Paul)
Mr. Paul has substantial, documentary evidence detailing his close relationship with the Clintons and his funding of the Hollywood tribute, including cancelled checks, hand-written thank you notes from the Clintons, and photographs. Also named in the complaint is Clinton fundraiser David Rosen, Clinton friend James Levin, and Hollywood celebrity fundraiser Aaron Tonken, who currently is under criminal investigation for his role in other Hollywood fundraisers. As a result of Mr. Paul’s disclosures, federal authorities have launched an investigation into the Clintons and other matters. Mr. Paul, who is facing alleged (and related) stock and bank fraud charges, remains eager to cooperate with federal authorities.
Thank you for playing Ms. Clinton, we have some lovely parting gifts for you...these exquisite matching stainless steel bracelets and an all-expense paid trip to beautiful Danbury, Connecticut. Now...who will be our next contestant? COME ON DOWN!
[Note: For those that don't get it...Danbury is the Federal Penitentiary where Martha Stewart will be]
The Cubs are not collapsing this year, and have been really good the last couple of years. This year, the Cards are just the class of the division and are leaving everyone in the dust. Not Chicago's fault, the '04 Cards are just one of the greatest baseball teams of all time.
Yup, FORK KERRY!!!!!!!!!
No, you pummel him into the ground. Hillary won't jump on a sinking ship, especially one she knows she can't save.
She'll bide her time until '08. She is probably hoping for a bigger landslide than we are. When she does run, she'll present herself as the saviour of the country.
You notice that her and Bill are not praising Kerry, but merely starting to criticize President Bush. They want to appease the democrats and keep their support while not truly supporting Kerry.
Amen to that.
If Kerry can't defend his vietnam record against the swifties, how am I supposed to expect Kerry to defend America against terrorists?
If the first Gulf War had everyone in the coalition (including the French and the Germans) and if the UN was involved and active in that war, why did Kerry still vote against that war?
In 1980, 84, and 88..the insiders knew more than a month before the election that the GOP was heading for a landslide...but they kept it to themselves..Now, in the era of the internet and talk radio, they can't control the flow of information..We're gonna see, 45 days or so before the election, that Kerry's collapsiing, and thta's going to drive it down even further. This may well be a rout...
Your scenario looks very plausible although I think the Dem powers that be believe she has too much baggage to be the main candidate. If Kerry gets toasted, it would seem as though they would go with Edwards as the fresh face of the party and Hillary as VP to attract the rest of the freakshow votes.
The fact that the MSM Kerrorist Mediots no longer control the news and can spike the truth has to be driving them nuts.
However, we must be broken glass republicans to make sure we all vote.
I'm telling my West Coast relatives and friends to vote regardless of what they hear on tv, radio or read.
No arguement here..in fact, as the news of the Kerry implosion spreads..it'll make it easier to motivate our base..on 1980, I believe, everyone in Carter's campaign knew a month beofre the vote that it was a route..but the NY Times, WP, et al, never mentioned a word..now, no more...
One reaso, the MSM would never report a rout is that could cost them a lot of ad $'s.
What if $oreA$$ and Ma Ma T Rex's various 527's realized that their money is just going down the drain with no real impact.
They might stop spending their millions per day on ads to defeat GW. The MSM is hurting bottom line and can't afford a massive stoppage of ads from the left.
lol.....you might want to wait for them to win the WS before making such a statement. They're having a very good regular season, but by no means one of the best of all time. ......not even close, in fact.
Imagine the noise blaming the right for the resignation of a nominee and the media celebration of a Hillary nomination. Together with a likely al Quaeda action before the election with but a month to go, Hillary's baggage would not even make the radar.
If Kerry gets toasted, it would seem as though they would go with Edwards as the fresh face of the party and Hillary as VP to attract the rest of the freakshow votes.
Not a chance. The Hildabveast will play second fiddle to no one at this point. It would destroy her chances in 2008. Nope, there would be an emergency convention and she would be step in to save the day, the knife still dripping with Kerry's blood hiding behind her back. These people don't care. To Democrats, winning is everything.
Or an Al Qaida October Surprise? (Although I don't think that would do anything but increase Bush's lead).
So who will they run? That's pretty much all they've got left. The few that aren't are not popular with the powers that be in the Party.
Not what Congressman Billy Bob says, and he's actually debated him. He's very vulnerable in a real debate. If we get one, Bush should ram his past positions right up his aristocratic snozzle.
His electors are on the ballot, he is not. They can vote for some other Dem just as easily as for him. If he were no longer the cannidate, for whatever reason, the electors pledege to him would do just that.
And will there be a "real" debate?
Are polls just entirely farcical, or are too many people that stupid?
We'll see how it plays out....sure'd like to be fly on Jas. Carville's wall over the next few weeks. Also, isn't there some kind of new campaign law about no personal attacks with TV/radio ads 30 (60?) days prior to the election? That also plays into Hillary's hands.
Yup. She gets a free ride if she jumps in late.
Keep the heat on AS IF WE ARE 10 POINTS BEHIND!
We haven't won until we cross the finish line first!
Not yet... Kerry's like a wart, returning every so often when you think you're rid of him.
I agree 100%. Never underestimate the power of the MSM.
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