Skip to comments.Barry Goldwater, <I>The Conscience Of A Conservative.</I>
Posted on 09/01/2004 3:57:31 PM PDT by PsyOp
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Does anyone remember that Goldwater drifted to the left toward the end of his life? I believe he suffered from Alzheimers and/or strokes.
But for an ad with a daisy being plucked and a mushroom cloud appearing.. what might have been.
Good post.. Thanks.
"Barry Goldwater, in your heart you know he's right".
I wouldn't say that he drifted left. He did soften a few of his stances. At least as far as I know.
Goldwater wrote that scenario 30 years before the fall of the Berlin Wall.
He was precient about many things. Going through this book was almost like reading a Nostradamus retrospective.
As his condition worsened, his gold digging 2nd. wife began to issue HER opinions in Goldwater's name.
Very cool! Yours?
Thank you my good man!
The ghost of Barry Goldwater? I hope I'm not violating any copy rights here.
Yes Sir. Got it when he called me about joining the right wing conspiracy to regain control of the government and roll back civil rights- about, oh, forty years ago. So far, everything is going as planned except that civil rights thing.
How dare you post such heresy! You must be voting for Kerry and the terrorists.
"Extremism in defense of Liberty is no vice"
I have a sign in the back window of my car that says "Support Terrorism! Elect Kerry!" It gets a lot of double-takes.
It is, isn't it! I held onto one of my other copies of "COAC" as I watched the Berlin Wall come down on TV, and tears of joy and exoneration coming down on my shirt.
God bless you Barry, you saw the future and pointed the way for Ronald Reagan to go the distance.
And better than Nostradamus cause there's no need for interpretation of prophecies revealed. He was right and history clearly demostrated that fact in crystal clear terms.
Ahem -- "principle."
It was described by those towards whom he was drifting as "maturing" or some such silly stuff.
The nation insisted on a six-trillion-dollar "War on Poverty" and a politically-sabotaged war in Vietnam.
Thanks to Ronald Reagan, the Soviet threat was smashed.
Hillary Clinton and John Forge Kerry are in denial.
At least one person has noted "They told me if I voted for Goldwater we'd end up in a land war in Asia.
I voted for Goldwater, and, sure enough, we ended up in a land war in Asia."
Goldwater later said: "I could have ended the war in a month. I could have made North Vietnam look like a mud puddle."
ping to #27
"You've got to forget about this civilian thing. Whenever you drop bombs, you're going to hit civilians." - Barry Goldwater.
"The only summit meeting that can succeed is the one that does not take place." - Barry M. Goldwater.
"None of us here in Washington knows all or even half of the answers. You people out there in the fifty states states had better understand that. If you love your country, don't depend on handouts from Washington for your information. If you cherish your freedom, don't leave it all up to BIG GOVERNMENT." - Barry Goldwater.
"I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue!" - Barry Goldwater, speech, accepting Republican presidential nomination, July 16, 1964.
"We must--ourselves--be prepared to undertake military operations against vulnerable Communist regimes. Assume we have developed nuclear weapons that can be used in land warfare, and that we have equipped our European divisions accordingly. Assume also a major uprising in Eastern Europe, such as occurred in Budapest in 1956.
In such a situation, we ought to present the Kremlin with an ultimatum forbidding Soviet intervention, and be prepared, if the ultimatum is rejected, to move a highly mobile task force equipped with appropriate nuclear weapons to the scene of the revolt.
Our objective would be to confront the Soviet Union with superior force in the immediate vicinity of the uprising and to compel a Soviet withdrawal.
An actual clash between American and Soviet allies would be unlikely; the mere threat of American action, coupled with the Kremlin's knowledge that the fighting would occur amid a hostile population and could easily spread to other areas, would probably result in Soviet acceptance of the ultimatum.
The Kremlin would also be put on notice, of course, that resort to long-range bombers and missiles would prompt automatic retaliation in kind.
On this level, we would invite the Communist leaders to choose between total destruction of the Soviet Union, and accepting a local defeat.
Had we the will and the means for it in 1956, such a policy would have saved the Hungarian Revolution."
This paragraph above brought back memories.
-- I was stationed in Munich in 1956, and Ike had us on full alert, ready [supposedly] to jump into Budapest to protect 'american interests', when he backed down & let the Hungarian Revolution collapse.
I wonder if we could have bluffed the Russians at that point. -- I tend to doubt it.
Anyone here ever read any history about Ikes decision to deny support to Hungary?
And that was in Houston and my Dad worked for Brown & Root at the time!
Yet, if my late Father were alive today, he would be a conservative and vote that way.
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I'm not trying to insult .22s. I own several, including a .22 mag. But there are times when the mission calls for a little more stopping power. Kerry is to the war on terrorism what the .22 is to the .44 and that is my point. ;-]
No, but I believe I have a book on it somewhere that I never got around to reading. I, too, was stationed in Germany. I was there from 81 to 83 when things ratcheted up under Reagan. Lots of alerts. Even got to look down tha barrels of ZSU 23-4 that was tracking us on a border flight along the IGB. Definite "pucker factor" there.
Just picked up my copy of "Unfit For Command" today.
"Nations do not arm for war. They arm to keep themselves from war." - Barry Goldwater.
"You talk to Senator Goldwater about his views. I have expressed mine positively, affirmatively and completely, without reference to anybody or Senator Goldwater, but just myself. If I say I believe I loved my mother, you would say it is a jab at Senator Goldwater." - Lyndon B. Johnson, News conference, Washington, D.C., September 5, 1964.
"Our aim, as I understand it, is neither to establish a segregated society nor to establish an integrated society as such. It is to preserve a free society.... One thing that will surely poison and embitter our relations with each other is the idea that some predetermined bureaucratic schedule of equality--and, worst of all, a schedule based on the concept of race--must be imposed." - Barry Goldwater, presidential campaign speech, 1964.
"To insist on strength is not war-mongering, it is peace-mongering." - Barry Goldwater, 1964.
If you can recall the title of your book I'd appreciate it.
I've searched before for more detail on that incident, with no luck.
Our entire division [the 11th Airborne] was on 'high pucker' factor alert for about a week. At one point we [the 503rd] were at our airbase south of Munich for two or three days, sleeping on the tarmac next to the 119's..
Ok my friend, just took it the wrong way, it's been a long day. Stinks having to be up at 5:15am EDT!!
I'll read your full post later.
Too bad I was only one when Goldwater ran for President.
Thanks to him we had President Reagan.
Bump for bookmark and later reading. Also Barry Goldwater was an amateur radio operartor, K7UGA.
Instead of Goldwater, Americans elected a crooked Texas Democrat with the ethics of a hyena.
No offense to hyenas meant.
If I can I will. But I think it is in my storage locker where the bulk of my books are. I believe the book covered both the Hungary and Czech incasions. The title, I think, was something like "The Eagle and The Small Birds". Perhaps authored by someone who witnessed things.
I discovered that in order to get my driver's license I needed glasses and got a pair just like Barry's.
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