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Barry Goldwater, <I>The Conscience Of A Conservative.</I>
Personal Archives | 1960 | Barry Goldwater

Posted on 09/01/2004 3:57:31 PM PDT by PsyOp

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To: Springman

Get some sleep. BTW, I was only 2 when he ran for pres.


51 posted on 09/01/2004 8:08:22 PM PDT by PsyOp (John Kerry—a .22 Rimfire Short in a .44 Magnum world.)
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To: Cagey

I like the button. I had the thought that we should make up bunch of them and put Kerry's name on them. Then, hand them out to protesters outside the RNC. Most of them are so stupid they would assume they were too young to vote and not got to the polls in Nov.


52 posted on 09/01/2004 8:12:06 PM PDT by PsyOp (John Kerry—a .22 Rimfire Short in a .44 Magnum world.)
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To: All

From Goldwater's acceptance speech at the 1964 Republican National Convention in California, held at San Francisco's Cow Palace.

"Equality, rightly understood as our founding fathers understood it, leads to liberty and to the emancipation of creative differences; wrongly understood, as it has been so tragically in our time, it leads first to conformity and then to despotism."

"My fellow Republicans, our cause is too great for any man to feel worthy of it. Our task would be too great for any man, did he not have with him the heart and the hands of this great Republican party."

"In this world no person, no party can guarantee anything, but what we can do and what we shall do is to deserve victory, and victory will be ours. The good Lord raised this mighty Republic to be a home for the brave and to flourish as the land of the free-not to stagnate in the swampland of collectivism, not to cringe before the bully of communism."

"Now, my fellow Americans, the tide has been running against freedom. Our people have followed false prophets. We must, and we shall, return to proven ways-- not because they are old, but because they are true."

"We must, and we shall, set the tide running again in the cause of freedom.... Freedom made orderly for this nation by our constitutional government. Freedom under a government limited by laws of nature and of nature's God. Freedom balanced so that liberty lacking order will not become the slavery of the prison cell; balanced so that liberty lacking order will not become the license of the mob and of the jungle."

"Now, we Americans understand freedom; we have earned it, we have lived for it, and we have died for it. This nation and its people are freedom's models in a searching world. We can be freedom's missionaries in a doubting world."

"During four, futile years the administration which we shall replace has distorted and lost that faith. it has talked and talked and talked and talked the words of freedom, but it has failed and failed and failed in the works of freedom. Now failure cements the wall of shame in Berlin; failures blot the sands of shame at the Bay of Pigs; failures marked the slow", death of freedom in Laos; failures infest the jungles of Vietnam; and failures haunt the houses of our once great alliances and undermine the greatest bulwark ever erected by free nations, the NATO community."

"Now, certainly simple honesty is not too much to demand of men in government. We find it in most. Republicans demand it from everyone. They demand it from everyone no matter how exalted or protected his position might be."

"History shows us, demonstrates that nothing, nothing prepares the way for tyranny more than the failure of public officials to keep the streets from bullies and marauders."

"Those who seek to live your lives for you, to take your liberty in return for relieving you of yours, those who elevate the state and downgrade the citizen, must see ultimately a world in which earthly power can be substituted for divine will. And this nation was founded upon the rejection of that notion and upon the acceptance of God as the author of freedom."

"Now, those who seek absolute power, even though they seek it to do what they regard as good, are simply demanding the right to enforce their own version of heaven on earth, and let me remind you they are the very ones who always create the most hellish tyranny."

"Absolute power does corrupt, and those who seek it must be suspect and must be opposed."

"Fellow Republicans, it is the cause of Republicanism to resist concentrations of power, private or public, which enforce such conformity and inflict such despotism."

"It is the cause of Republicanism to ensure that power remains in the hands of the people."

"[O]nly the strong can remain free: that only the strong can keep the peace."

"And I needn't remind you--but I will--that it's been during Democratic years that our strength to deter war has been stilled and even gone into a planned decline. It has been during Democratic years that we have weakly stumbled into conflicts, timidly refusing to draw our own lines against aggression, deceitfully refusing to tell even our people of our full participation and tragically letting our finest men die on battlefields unmarked by purpose, unmarked by pride or the prospect of victory.... Yesterday it was Korea; tonight it is Vietnam. Make no bones of this. Don't try to sweep this under the rug. We are at war in Vietnam. And yet the president, who is the commander in chief of our forces, refuses to say-refuses to say, mind you-whether or not the objective over there is victory, and his secretary of defense continues to mislead and misinformation the American people, and enough of it has gone by."

"[I]t has been during Democratic years that a billion persons were cast into Communist captivity and their fate cynically sealed."

"Now, the Republican cause demands that we brand communism as the principal disturber of peace in the world today. Indeed, we should brand it as the only significant disturber of the peace. And we must make clear that until its goals of conquest are absolutely renounced and its rejections with all nations tempered, communism and the governments it now controls are enemies of every man on earth who is or wants to be free."

"I believe that we must look beyond the defense of freedom today to its extension tomorrow. I believe that the communism which boasts it will bury us will instead give way to the forces of freedom. And I can see in the distant and yet recognizable future the outlines of a world worthy our dedication, our every risk, our every effort, our every sacrifice along the way. Yes, a world that will redeem the suffering of those will be liberated from tyranny."

"I pledge that the America I envision in the years ahead will extend its hand in help in teaching and in cultivation so that all new nations will be at least encouraged to go our way, so that they will not wander down the dark alleys of tyranny or to the dead-end streets of collectivism."

"I cherish the day when our children once again will restore as heroes the sort of men and women who, unafraid and undaunted, pursue the truth, strive to cure disease, subdue and make fruitful our natural environment, and produce the inventive engines of production, science and technology."

"We Republicans see in our constitutional form of government the great framework which assures the orderly but dynamic fulfillment of the whole man as the great reason for instituting orderly government in the first place."

"We see in private property and in economy based upon and fostering private property the one way to make government a durable ally of the whole man rather than his determined enemy. We see in the sanctity of private property the only durable foundation for constitutional government in a free society."

"I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue!"

"We must not see malice in honest differences of opinion.... "


53 posted on 09/01/2004 8:23:02 PM PDT by PsyOp (John Kerry—a .22 Rimfire Short in a .44 Magnum world.)
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"I won't say that the papers misquote me, but I sometimes wonder where Christianity would be today if some of those reporters had been Matthew, Mark, Luke and John." - Barry Goldwater, New York Times, August 11, 1964.


54 posted on 09/01/2004 8:26:06 PM PDT by PsyOp (John Kerry—a .22 Rimfire Short in a .44 Magnum world.)
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To: PsyOp

Wow! Thanks for posting this. Time to head over to Amazon.com


55 posted on 09/01/2004 8:26:07 PM PDT by technochick99 (Sanctimonious prig... FREE SABERTOOTH!)
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"Politics [is] the art of achieving the maximum amount of freedom for individuals that is consistent with the maintenance of social order." - Barry Goldwater.


56 posted on 09/01/2004 8:30:04 PM PDT by PsyOp (John Kerry—a .22 Rimfire Short in a .44 Magnum world.)
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"Sex and politics are a lot alike. You don't have to be good at them to enjoy them." - Barry Goldwater.


57 posted on 09/01/2004 8:31:31 PM PDT by PsyOp (John Kerry—a .22 Rimfire Short in a .44 Magnum world.)
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To: PsyOp

"Perserverance. . .that’s been the story of my family." - Barry Goldwater.


58 posted on 09/01/2004 8:32:46 PM PDT by PsyOp (John Kerry—a .22 Rimfire Short in a .44 Magnum world.)
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To: PsyOp

"Sex and politics are a lot alike. You don't have to be good at them to enjoy them." - Barry Goldwater.


59 posted on 09/01/2004 8:32:52 PM PDT by PsyOp (John Kerry—a .22 Rimfire Short in a .44 Magnum world.)
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"I have the unmitigated gall to think that I could lead men anywhere, business, politics or combat." - Barry Goldwater.


60 posted on 09/01/2004 8:33:26 PM PDT by PsyOp (John Kerry—a .22 Rimfire Short in a .44 Magnum world.)
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To: PsyOp

"I’ve often said that if I hadn’t known Barry Goldwater in 1964 and I had to depend on the press and the cartoons, I’d have voted against the son of a bitch." - Barry Goldwater.


61 posted on 09/01/2004 8:34:11 PM PDT by PsyOp (John Kerry—a .22 Rimfire Short in a .44 Magnum world.)
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"History has to judge every man who served. I don’t know how they’re going to treat me. I may be the worst S.O.B. that ever came down the pike. But I won’t lose any sleep over it. I just like to be remembered as an honest person who tried." - Barry Goldwater.


62 posted on 09/01/2004 8:35:03 PM PDT by PsyOp (John Kerry—a .22 Rimfire Short in a .44 Magnum world.)
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To: sheik yerbouty

Ping!


63 posted on 09/01/2004 9:49:33 PM PDT by PsyOp (John Kerry—a .22 Rimfire Short in a .44 Magnum world.)
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To: PsyOp

Many thanks for this. I remember that when I was a teenager, Barry Goldwater was "a voice crying in the wilderness". He will never be forgotten!


64 posted on 09/01/2004 10:04:59 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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To: PsyOp
In November 1965 the Joint Chiefs went to the White House to ask LBJ for permission to bomb Hanoi and mine Haiphong.

He cursed them for fools and threw them out.

"The Day It Became the Longest War", Proceedings of the U.S. Naval Institute, May 1996.

65 posted on 09/01/2004 10:26:35 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: PsyOp
"None of us here in Washington knows all or even half of the answers. You people out there in the fifty states states had better understand that. If you love your country, don't depend on handouts from Washington for your information. If you cherish your freedom, don't leave it all up to BIG GOVERNMENT." - Barry Goldwater.
That is so true, but it is an inadequate warning. We need to be warned that
if anyone claims to be wise, they are a propagandist.
And that
if anyone claims to be objective, they are claliming to be wise.

We need to be warned, IOW, that "objective journalism" is a tendentious fraud. You can't trust anyone to tell you "what is going on." Everyone has the right to their own opinion about that - and everyone is entitled to shout their opinion at the top of their lungs.


66 posted on 09/02/2004 2:36:46 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters but PR.)
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To: PsyOp
AuH20 bump for later...Consicence of a Conservative was one of the first political books I read as a college student...and one of the ones that opened my eyes...
67 posted on 09/02/2004 2:43:38 AM PDT by Ulysses ("Most of us go through life thinking we're Superman. Superman goes through life being Clark Kent!")
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To: PsyOp

Found it.. Thanks, -- you have a good memory.


The Eagle and the Small Birds: Crisis in the Soviet Empire From Yalta To Solidarity.
Michael Charlton.
Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 1985, 192 pp. $14.95
Reviewed by John C. Campbell, Foreign Affairs, Spring 1985

The eagle is the U.S.S.R., the small birds the satellite states of Eastern Europe.
Michael Charlton, a commentator for the BBC, interviews a galaxy of former officials and experts who can speak with authority on what happened at Yalta, on the Sovietization of Eastern Europe, and on the crisis of yesterday, today and tomorrow.
Oral history at its best, largely because of Charlton's skillful guidance of the conversations.


68 posted on 09/02/2004 5:42:59 AM PDT by tpaine (No man has a natural right to commit aggression on the equal rights of another. - T. Jefferson)
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Good deal! Glad you found it. Frankly, I'm amazed that I remembered the title correctly. Let me know what you think of the book when you read it. I hope it has the info you want on Ike.


69 posted on 09/02/2004 7:46:08 AM PDT by PsyOp (John Kerry—a .22 Rimfire Short in a .44 Magnum world.)
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To: PhilDragoo
He cursed them for fools and threw them out.

Johnson's mishandling of that war verges on the criminal.

70 posted on 09/02/2004 8:00:04 AM PDT by PsyOp (John Kerry—a .22 Rimfire Short in a .44 Magnum world.)
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To: PsyOp

I'm losing hope of getting much more detail. ..
I've done quite a bit of research on that era, and it appears that so much else was going on that Ike was just going thru the motions over Hungary in '56.
Our alert at the airport was just a bit of saber rattling, apparently. Sure seemed real to us at the time though.

Thanks for your info.


71 posted on 09/02/2004 8:04:13 AM PDT by tpaine (No man has a natural right to commit aggression on the equal rights of another. - T. Jefferson)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion
if anyone claims to be wise, they are a propagandist.

Micky Moore is the (fat) embodiment of that statement.

72 posted on 09/02/2004 8:11:47 AM PDT by PsyOp (John Kerry—a .22 Rimfire Short in a .44 Magnum world.)
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To: swarthyguy

PING!


73 posted on 09/02/2004 12:07:15 PM PDT by PsyOp (John Kerry—a .22 Rimfire Short in a .44 Magnum world.)
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"I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue!"

FYI. Goldwater gives the credit for the origins of this phrase to Professor Harry Jaffa, of the Claremont College in California. "It is the paraphrase of a speech by the Roman Senator, Marcus Tullius Cicero, while speaking in defense of the Rome's rule and honor against the Patrician, Lucius Sergius Catilina, who was considered dangerous to Rome".

The quotation was: "I must remind you - Lords, Senators - that extreme patriotism is in defense of freedom is no crime, and let me respectfully remind you that pusillanimity in the pursuit of justice is no virtue in a Roman".

Ref: "Goldwater" by Barry M. Goldwater, 1988, page 186.

MARCUS TULLIUS CICERO:

An accomplished poet, philosopher, rhetorician, and humorist, Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 BC-43 BC) was also the greatest forensic orator Rome ever produced. But to Cicero, service to the res publica (literally, "the public affair") was a Roman citizen's highest duty. At age 26 (in 80 BC), he successfully defended a man prosecuted unjustly by a crony of the bloodthirsty dictator Sulla. In 69 BC, he brought to order the corrupt Sicilian governor Verres. As consul in 63 BC, he put down the Catilinarian conspiracy; later, he was sent into exile for refusing to join the First Triumvirate. Late in life, he led the Senate's gallant but unsuccessful battle against Antony, for which he paid with his life on 7 December 43 BC.

REF: www.gracie.smsu.edu/cicero.htm

I like to think that Barry Goldwater came from a long line of "Patriotic Conservatives".

Regards and thanks for the postings.

Buck.

74 posted on 09/02/2004 3:14:48 PM PDT by elbucko (A Feral Republican)
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To: PsyOp

BTTT!!!

I think I'll be reading this for a while!! Thanks for posting it!!

BTW I did get some sleep!!


75 posted on 09/02/2004 4:37:56 PM PDT by Springman
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To: elbucko

I had heard that about the origin of the phrase as well. I might even have the original in my archive somewhere. I'll have to look. Thanks for the reference.


76 posted on 09/02/2004 9:22:43 PM PDT by PsyOp (John Kerry—a .22 Rimfire Short in a .44 Magnum world.)
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To: PsyOp

Bump for Barry...the LAST Libertarian Republican.


77 posted on 10/20/2004 6:34:03 PM PDT by Capitalism2003 (America is too great for small dreams. - Ronald Reagan, speech to Congress. January 1, 1984.)
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I still have my first paperback copy.

Me too...and a cloth campaign banner that's about 4 feet long.

It's too bad that he flipped late in life.

78 posted on 10/20/2004 6:36:25 PM PDT by ErnBatavia (Democrats: appear in September, leavin' November 3 - worse than a 1-night stand...)
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To: nutmeg

Bing (I was going to just bump this, and then thought you might be interested - I had already bookmarked it on its prior sufacing)


79 posted on 10/20/2004 7:28:53 PM PDT by evilC (This space left intentionally blank)
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To: evilC
Thanks for the "bing", evilC. Great to hear from you! :-)

Will read ASAP... looks interesting.

80 posted on 10/21/2004 11:00:00 PM PDT by nutmeg ("The DemocRATic party...has been hijacked by a confederacy of gangsters..." - Pat Caddell, 11/27/00)
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To: PsyOp
Socialism-through-Welfarism poses a far greater danger to freedom than Socialism-through-Nationalization precisely because it is more difficult to combat. The evils of Nationalization are self-evident and immediate. Those of Welfarism are veiled and tend to be postponed.
81 posted on 11/05/2008 2:13:38 PM PST by petercooper (I am a bitter clinger!)
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