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glock holsters (again)
9/3/2004 | rune3345

Posted on 09/03/2004 11:05:45 AM PDT by rune3345

thanks for your input but I have another question how many of you "carriers" have been talked to or had a secound look by a cop or other trained personnel while wearing a "hidden"?

isn't it nice to take a break from the political stuff :)


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1 posted on 09/03/2004 11:05:51 AM PDT by rune3345
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To: rune3345

If properly "hidden" then nobody knows.

Are you saying the holsters have imbedded microchips to tell our law "enforcement" officers that you are armed?

Good possibility - and nearly probable


2 posted on 09/03/2004 11:09:18 AM PDT by steplock
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To: rune3345
Nope; its called a "concealed" carry permit.

"Concealed" - you know; not open to view, people don't see it.

3 posted on 09/03/2004 11:09:28 AM PDT by Dogrobber
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To: rune3345
I am a cop

Most people think it's a cell phone when they see a bulge under a shirt.

Because TX has a concealed carry law, I don't approach, I merely observe, unless they are in a place where weapons are prohibited.

I will tell you the one that's a dead giveaway-someone in jeans with a wallet and checkbook in the back pockets wearing a fanny pack

4 posted on 09/03/2004 11:10:31 AM PDT by 5Madman2 (DemocRATS are Vermin)
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To: Dogrobber

When I lived in NH in the mid 70's, you had to have a permit issued by local law and it was very easy to obtain if you had a clear record. Odd thing was, you had to carry openly. It was against statues to carry concealed.


6 posted on 09/03/2004 11:14:01 AM PDT by snapperjk (If you are a terror to many, then beware of many.)
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To: rune3345

I've spoken with cops while carrying and they never looked at me twice. You may feel as if it looks obvious, but it doesn't. Here in liberal Connecticut, I use a Milt Sparks, you should try it.


7 posted on 09/03/2004 11:14:40 AM PDT by ChuckShick (He's clerking for me...)
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To: pimpalize
Us poor shlubs in Californai are subject to only the criminals having guns, thanks to Barbara Boxer and Dian Feinstien.

Drive by shooting all the time with no defense for the innocent.

BOUNCE BOXER NOW!

8 posted on 09/03/2004 11:14:53 AM PDT by Viet-Boat-Rider (((KERRY IS A NARCISSISTIC LIAR, GOLDBRICKER, AND TRAITOR!)))
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To: 5Madman2

Don't forget the Banana Republic photographers vest, or the oversize Hawaii shirt look.


9 posted on 09/03/2004 11:16:30 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (W-04!)
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To: rune3345

All of the police and most of the bad boys here know I carry a gun (with a permit) all the time. Nobody says sh** to me about it either.


10 posted on 09/03/2004 11:17:27 AM PDT by jerry639
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To: rune3345

in MN our law is often incorrectly called "concealed carry", but there's no crime in carrying openly either. It's just not the cultural norm here and IMO, not wise to flaunt it any way.
It was done this way so if your shirt were to ride up or something, you can't be charged with a crime for it.
I've never been stopped by a cop for the way I carry because
they never see it.


11 posted on 09/03/2004 11:18:30 AM PDT by Rakkasan1 (Justice of the piece)
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To: rune3345
Check out Glock Talk for IWB (inside waistband) holster recommendations...and for Glock models that are least likely "to print"....

Check out the G26...uses the G17 or G19 magazines...soon flush 12 rounders will be available...plus one up the pipe ...or plus two mag extensions...in @10 days from now...

imo

12 posted on 09/03/2004 11:20:02 AM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: rune3345

A bellyband with a SS pistol is the best for summer carry I can wear shorts and a tee shirt and still conceal it...


13 posted on 09/03/2004 11:20:36 AM PDT by aspiring.hillbilly
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To: Tijeras_Slim
True-I just wear an outer shirt, and don't worry too much about the bulge (Glock 22 in a Fobus Paddle) as I go back and forth to work

Keltec 380 on a clip in my pocket off duty

Just like anything else, if you worry about it, it happens.

14 posted on 09/03/2004 11:22:08 AM PDT by 5Madman2 (DemocRATS are Vermin)
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To: aspiring.hillbilly
You'd love the Kahr MK9.

They don't come much more discreet than that.

15 posted on 09/03/2004 11:22:35 AM PDT by George Smiley (The only 180 that Kerry hasn't done is the one that would release ALL his military records.)
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To: 5Madman2
Funny you should mention a fanny pack. I wear one because I have had trouble with a wallet pressing on a nerve in my leg - left it numb. So I carry everything in a rather large fanny pouch.

I also wear the fanny pack on my side for easy access to my wallet, keys, cell phone etc. Though I do not carry, I have been asked more than a time or two.
16 posted on 09/03/2004 11:28:38 AM PDT by taxcontrol (People are entitled to their opinion - no matter how wrong it is.)
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To: rune3345

Missed your first post about holsters, but there are a couple hoster makers I'd recommend:

Tucker Gunleather
Milt Sparks
DeSantis

These seem to be the "creme de la creme" amongst the CHL community. I carry a Tucker HF-1 with a full-size 1911.


17 posted on 09/03/2004 11:28:42 AM PDT by tx4guns (Guns don't murder people; stupid people murder people.)
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To: rune3345

WHY oh WHY do you feel compelled to post this Glock schlock on latest articles? Just because you are a newbie here doesn't mean that you aren't bound by the same etiquette the rest of us follow...And frankly one of the reason I come to FR is to talkj politics....not read blather that should be in the blog section


18 posted on 09/03/2004 11:29:16 AM PDT by jnarcus
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To: All

Occasionally I enjoy trying to spot people carrying "concealed". The pickings are slim here in NY, but under the proper circumstances I may say something to the guy like, dude your piece is printing. I get reactions ranging from "Thanks" to "F--- off", to "I'm a cop". Sometimes it's best to keep one's observations to oneself.


19 posted on 09/03/2004 11:30:23 AM PDT by BadAndy (Specializing in unnecessarily harsh comments.)
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To: Viet-Boat-Rider

This is not even close to a true statement....You must live in LA where the chief of PD won't sign for anyone but a celeb's body guard to have a fire arm....Try some other part of the state and you (EXCEPT SF)will find a much different atmosphere


20 posted on 09/03/2004 11:31:14 AM PDT by jnarcus
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To: rune3345

Forgot 2 more good ones...

Mitch Rosen
Garrity Gunleather


21 posted on 09/03/2004 11:32:27 AM PDT by tx4guns (Guns don't murder people; stupid people murder people.)
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To: joesnuffy

Personally, I like single stack because of the slimness of the weapon.


22 posted on 09/03/2004 11:33:24 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn't be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: taxcontrol
I wear the fanny pack when I am working out or running, other than that-it is a giveaway when in "Street clothes" I also know the principle of "muscle memory" I have to train and qualify in my duty belt, I prefer my weapon in the same place in street clothes. The fanny pack doesn't do that.

I understand your nerve problem I've had it in the past and know guys that do now

23 posted on 09/03/2004 11:40:44 AM PDT by 5Madman2 (DemocRATS are Vermin)
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To: 5Madman2

Howdy there, Texas finest! I'm also a Texan amd a CHL holder.

I've had only one incident. I was in San Antonio, (for an interview), and of course I had to go see the Alamo. I had a North American Arms .32 in my back pocket and my .45 on my left hip, under my vest. (Cross-draw) Anyway the officer at the door said he could tell what is was by the outline in my back pocket and gave me a pretty bad time for a couple of hours.

Now my "backup" goes in my boot.

Here's one nobody likely thinks about until they carry; The restroom. I've been in a situation in a public restroom where there is no shelf or such and the stall door doesn't reach the floor. Remember, the C in CHL means "concealed", so you can't leave it in the holster as it will be seen. You can where this is going. Yes, I had to sit in a diner's bathroom, with my pants around my ankles, holding a gun. Use your imagination about the TP.

To the original author of this thread: Left hip, grip forward, inside the pants, ordinary vest. Left hip, I say, so you can reach it while driving.


24 posted on 09/03/2004 11:40:46 AM PDT by Michael Goldsberry (Which part of "Don't Mess With Texas" didn't you get?)
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To: 5Madman2
"....jeans with a wallet.....in the back pockets wearing a fanny pack...."

I carry a wheel gun - is it really that apparent?
(I don't have the girth to carry tucked in my waistband).

25 posted on 09/03/2004 11:41:44 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: 5Madman2; Cap'n Crunch; Travis McGee; Eaker
Agree........the fanny pack doesn't work . Too many things that "outs" , witnesses, shadows or prints a firearm . My grips on my 1911A1 used to allow my shirt to creep or crawl along on the rubber houge checkering. Smooth micarta ivory grips defeat most of of that. Any gun product clothing is a flag, as is LEO logos. The infamous DSS/FiBi vest...etc etc....

Stay safe !.....

26 posted on 09/03/2004 11:42:39 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. )
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To: Leapfrog

That's why I recommend a paddle holster. You can pull it out as a unit without the holster showing under the door


27 posted on 09/03/2004 11:43:25 AM PDT by 5Madman2 (DemocRATS are Vermin)
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To: Psalm 73

It is to me, Most people are sleepwalking and unaware of their surroundings


28 posted on 09/03/2004 11:45:07 AM PDT by 5Madman2 (DemocRATS are Vermin)
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To: Psalm 73
Take a peek at the Barimi Grips and Bianchi speed strips to reduce the evicence from your wheel gun.....just a suggestion. They work well for me.

Stay safe !

29 posted on 09/03/2004 11:45:12 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. )
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To: Squantos

One of my favorites is a pair of shorts, sleeveless tee, and a cut off sleeve old BDU shirt as a cover shirt. People stay far enough away that they don't see anything. If LE shows an interest, I ID myself discreetly and move on my way


30 posted on 09/03/2004 11:50:20 AM PDT by 5Madman2 (DemocRATS are Vermin)
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To: 5Madman2

As you're law enforcement, please let me ask you a question. The company I work for has the correct "30.06" sign on all the doors, except the back door.

Am I correct in thinking that I'm OK entering that door, which is what I do? The info I've found at packing.org, the TXDOT site, etc. seems to indicate I'm right. Am I?


31 posted on 09/03/2004 11:56:02 AM PDT by Michael Goldsberry (Which part of "Don't Mess With Texas" didn't you get?)
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To: rune3345

I'm lazy and just leave my gun in my truck. In Nevada you can conceal within your vehicle.


32 posted on 09/03/2004 11:57:05 AM PDT by Dogbert41
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To: 5Madman2
LOL.....yep dat works ! My 1911A1 is just stuffed in my waistband......infamous OSS string holster, which I market for a mere 29.99 without tax of course...2 for 1 sale is on till end of century BTW ....:o)

Stay safe Sir !

33 posted on 09/03/2004 11:59:10 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. )
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To: Leapfrog

"As you're law enforcement, please let me ask you a question. The company I work for has the correct "30.06" sign on all the doors, except the back door.

Am I correct in thinking that I'm OK entering that door, which is what I do? The info I've found at packing.org, the TXDOT site, etc. seems to indicate I'm right. Am I?"

Not likely. Since you work for this company, you apparently know that it prohibits carrying. If you are discovered, you may be legally OK, but you'll be hitting the unemployment line.

Sometimes legal isn't safe.


34 posted on 09/03/2004 12:02:27 PM PDT by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: MineralMan

I couldn't find anything in company policy about weapons one way or the other and the building is leased. Some of the signage still has the previous occupant's name on it, so I don't know who's idea the 30.06 sign was. And, I'm certainly not going to ask. Do that and I might as well tape the CHL to my forehead.

If at some time I do get fired over this, no problem. I'd rather be looking for a job than be dead.

Thanks.


35 posted on 09/03/2004 12:10:03 PM PDT by Michael Goldsberry (Which part of "Don't Mess With Texas" didn't you get?)
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To: Leapfrog

If you're aware of the signs on the other doors, splitting hairs by entering the door that they forgot is not going to do you any good. You have received effective notice of the owners desires and can be arrested.


36 posted on 09/03/2004 12:27:41 PM PDT by 5Madman2 (DemocRATS are Vermin)
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To: Squantos

I came into work one night dressed like that-they had a fine young citizen in cuffs in the squadroom while they proceesed some paperwork before taking him to the sheriffs bed and breakfast. The look on his face as I walked in, barked a few orders at some troops and started coffee was priceless. You could see he didn't understand why I wasn't in cuffs, and why the hell were these guys doing what I told them to?


37 posted on 09/03/2004 12:32:08 PM PDT by 5Madman2 (DemocRATS are Vermin)
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To: Leapfrog
One addendum to my previous. I support your right to carry, but based on what you said, if the employer made the complaint, an LEO would have to do his job.

I make it a personal policy to not be involved in things that may one day be case law. I make the same suggestion to anyone who believes in RKBA. Don't be the example they want to make of you, stay low key

38 posted on 09/03/2004 12:37:44 PM PDT by 5Madman2 (DemocRATS are Vermin)
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To: jnarcus

where should I post it, and how do I get it there?


39 posted on 09/03/2004 12:58:39 PM PDT by rune3345 (in the end there is only death how you die is up to you)
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To: 5Madman2

"stay low key"

You sure got that one right!

When I read your previous, you got me scrambling. Sometimes its confusing. In a govt building, no. Court, no. State govt building, OK. Oh, heck, any govt building, fine. Wait...

The "must be posted on every entrance" issue was brought up by none other than my instructor who told us that he simply goes in the service entrance rather than crossing the sign.
Little did I know that I would later face the same situation.

Thank you kindly sir, for your input.


40 posted on 09/03/2004 1:02:17 PM PDT by Michael Goldsberry (Which part of "Don't Mess With Texas" didn't you get?)
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To: Leapfrog
No Problem. Your instructor did not do you a good service by giving you that advice. He appears to be one of those that wants to be hte "Test Case" Being a "test case" may be honorable in its intentions, but it loses its appeal in jail and after the fime and you lose the right.

The law is pretty straight forward once you read it. The people that put up the signs are exercising their rights as property owners. The CHL People can exercise their rights by not entereng and spending money in that establishment

41 posted on 09/03/2004 1:21:17 PM PDT by 5Madman2 (DemocRATS are Vermin)
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To: 5Madman2

"The CHL People can exercise their rights by not entereng and spending money in that establishment"

Which is exactly what I did at Cynthia Woods/M. Pavilion. (I also lost a date on that one.)
Sadly, in this case its my employer, which means I must enter the building if I want to get paid. Gads. Well, off to dice.com.


42 posted on 09/03/2004 3:02:40 PM PDT by Michael Goldsberry (Which part of "Don't Mess With Texas" didn't you get?)
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To: George Smiley

I agree, they are real nice, I like the 40 S&W offerings if your going single stack.


43 posted on 09/03/2004 4:16:57 PM PDT by aspiring.hillbilly
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To: aspiring.hillbilly

The polymer framed Kahrs have quite a kick, though.


44 posted on 09/03/2004 5:33:34 PM PDT by George Smiley (The only 180 that Kerry hasn't done is the one that would release ALL his military records.)
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To: George Smiley
OK Dang it ! I'm gonna go get one based on your recommendation George ! Actually because I could'nt find a deal on a small S&W 4040.............:o)

Stay safe !

45 posted on 09/03/2004 9:12:27 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. )
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