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Muslims should fight U.S. in Iraq: cleric
Tehran Times ^ | September 4, 2004 | Al-jazeerah via Tehran Times

Posted on 09/03/2004 7:10:55 PM PDT by Land_of_Lincoln_John

CAIRO (Aljazeera) --An Egyptian cleric based in Qatar and often described as a moderate has ruled that it is a religious duty for Muslims to fight Americans in Iraq, including U.S. civilians, his office director has said.

But the cleric, Shaikh Yusuf al-Qaradawi, said that two French journalists kidnapped in Iraq should be freed immediately. "All of them (U.S. military personnel and civilians) are invaders who came from their country to invade our country and fighting them [in Iraq] is a duty," said his office director Essam Talima on Thursday, quoting a fatwa or ruling on religious law by al-Qaradawi.

Al-Qaradawi is revered in much of the Muslim world for his intellectual rigor and ability to adapt the fundamental tenets of Islam to the modern world.

The cleric was quoted by pan-Arab daily newspaper Al-Hayat as saying that the French journalists should be freed.

"If those kidnappers care about the reputation of Islam they should free the two French journalists," the newspaper quoted him saying.

Al-Qaradawi said the presence of the French journalists "broke the American monopoly on relaying information and facts (on the situation in Iraq) to the outside world". He also referred to France's foreign policy in dealing with the Islamic and Arab worlds, which he said could serve as an example to other countries. "If those kidnappers care about the reputation of Islam they should free the two French journalists"

Shaikh Yusuf al-Qaradawi The kidnapping of Georges Malbrunot and Christian Chesnot on 20 August by a group called the Islamic Army in Iraq has deeply shocked France which was a fierce opponent of the U.S.-led invasion and has no troops in Iraq.

The kidnappers have demanded that Paris rescind a law banning Muslim headscarves and other conspicuous religious symbols from state schools. The deadline passed on Wednesday and France enforced the ban from Thursday.

Al-Qaradawi was one of 93 prominent Muslim figures who in August called on Muslims around the world to support resistance against U.S. forces in Iraq and its appointed interim Iraqi government. After the 11 September 2001 attacks al-Qaradawi urged Muslims worldwide to donate blood to help the victims and also condemned the 2002 Bali bombing as barbaric and immoral but he caused controversy during a visit to Britain in July after condoning some attacks by human bombers against military targets. Reuters


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaradawi; cair; cairsilentonchechnya; egypt; france; islam; islamicarmyiniraq; muslims; nocaircondemnation; religionofpeace; rop; silenceissupport; silenceofcair; whereiscair
Quick, check the CAIR web site to see if they've denounced moderate cleric Al-Qaradawi yet.
1 posted on 09/03/2004 7:10:55 PM PDT by Land_of_Lincoln_John
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John

kill the pig.


2 posted on 09/03/2004 7:11:55 PM PDT by Robert_Paulson2 (Robert the "RINO")
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John
We ought to make our yearly arms shipments to Egypt contingent on one brutal policy (since Egypt is not a democracy anyway): There will be no freedom of speech in Egypt when it comes to clerics commenting on U.S. affairs. Any time an Egyptian cleric incites violence against the U.S., he will be hanged publicly, otherwise no more U.S. arms for the Egyptian government.

There would be outcry at first but I guarantee you within a year we'd have cut off one "intellectual center" of the world's Islamist movements.

3 posted on 09/03/2004 7:17:36 PM PDT by American Soldier
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John
This honorable man of God should have a bullet lodged between his eyes.

There are times in history when the barbarians just need a good killing.

4 posted on 09/03/2004 7:23:25 PM PDT by zarf
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John

CIA assassination squad ought to be roaming the globe looking for "accidents" to cause.


5 posted on 09/03/2004 7:25:51 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (SPITBALLS?!)
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John

Since the US lacks any real balls to send the Islamic world a message, I really hope that Putin does. He should pick the most populated Islamic cities in Chechnya and nuke them, Hydrogen bomb and all. Then tell the Arab world that the next attack by Islamic facists and "we'll nuke Medenia and then Meeca." Knowing that they possess the capability to do this and that they are a 3rd world sh!t hole, I would bet that Islam backs off in a hurry. You'd see Mullahs slaughtered by the thousands by regular muslims who finally stand up for their religion


6 posted on 09/03/2004 7:30:12 PM PDT by Bommer (John Kerry is a Vietnam Traitor)
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John
What a religion. Every jackass with a bad beard and a spare sheet can become a leader. This cult has outlived its usefulness.

LBT

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7 posted on 09/03/2004 7:31:04 PM PDT by LiberalBassTurds (Al Qaeda needs to know we are fluent in the "dialogue of bullets.")
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John
"If those kidnappers care about the reputation of Islam they should free the two French journalists"

What a joke.

8 posted on 09/03/2004 7:33:33 PM PDT by blam
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John
"If those kidnappers care about the reputation of Islam they should free the two French journalists"

What a joke.

9 posted on 09/03/2004 7:34:43 PM PDT by blam
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John
often described as a moderate

Obviously, described incorrectly as such.

10 posted on 09/03/2004 7:36:00 PM PDT by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: Robert_Paulson2
kill the pig.

Ditto....

11 posted on 09/03/2004 7:40:53 PM PDT by freebilly
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To: freebilly

Kill this pig. Pigs, however, can be very useful in this struggle.


12 posted on 09/03/2004 7:42:27 PM PDT by Land_of_Lincoln_John (http://www.bluestatesforbush.com)
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To: American Soldier

He's based in Qatar.


13 posted on 09/03/2004 7:43:16 PM PDT by nuconvert (Everyone has a photographic memory. Some don't have film.)
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John

Those moderate Muslims sure make me feel sympathetic to their cause.

It is too bad that all of the other Muslims (both of them) have to endure the ire of those of us Infidels who are not very understanding.


14 posted on 09/03/2004 7:44:24 PM PDT by Radix (This isn't a Tag Line? Well, could you point me to one?)
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John

The US and Russia against the Islamic Terrorist Nations. I like the odds.


15 posted on 09/03/2004 7:45:45 PM PDT by Doe Eyes
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John
An Egyptian cleric based in Qatar and quoted in the Tehran Times, said that the Americans have invaded his country.

I think the article is BS.

16 posted on 09/03/2004 7:46:20 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Not Fonda Kerry in '04 // Vets Against Kerry)
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John
Al-Qaradawi is revered in much of the Muslim world for his intellectual rigor and ability to adapt the fundamental tenets of Islam to the modern world.

How comforting.

17 posted on 09/03/2004 7:49:24 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John
Muslims should fight U.S. in Iraq: cleric

That is exactly the Bush plan -- fight the Muslims over there rather than here at home.

The enemy is playing right into Bush's hand. How delicious. And how sad so many Americans don't recognize his brilliance.

18 posted on 09/03/2004 7:50:46 PM PDT by kevao (Kerry/Edwards: Spitball-Throwing Girlie-Men.)
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John

Are we still sending US $$ to that hellhole of a "nation"? If so, WHY? So some wanker in the State Dept can have a job???


19 posted on 09/03/2004 7:52:39 PM PDT by texson66 ("Tyranny is yielding to the lust of the governing." - Lord Moulton)
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To: Radix

We killed and imprisoned moderate Nazis in WWII. The only difference I can detect is that today's moderate Islmofascists wear dirty nightshirts and turbans instead of brown shirts and swastika armbands.


20 posted on 09/03/2004 7:53:14 PM PDT by AF68
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To: blam

With the reputation of Islam being as it is, the beheading of two Frenchmen (not advocating it for a moment) might even improve it.


21 posted on 09/03/2004 7:53:58 PM PDT by luvbach1 (President Bush is conservative only when compared with the commies allied against him.)
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John

Gee, Al Jazeera and Tehran Times. There's a combo.


23 posted on 09/03/2004 7:58:23 PM PDT by Brooklyn Kid
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John

Kill the SOB and you won't have to worry about him anymore.


24 posted on 09/03/2004 7:58:28 PM PDT by CurlyBill (John Kerry is PeeWee Herman in a Frankenstein costume)
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To: Bommer

I would love to see what u said:

..."You'd see Mullahs slaughtered by the thousands by regular muslims who finally stand up for their religion."...


25 posted on 09/03/2004 8:05:25 PM PDT by jolie560
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John

He should be handed a rocket launcher, an AK, and a spare towel, and then parachuted into Iraq.


26 posted on 09/03/2004 8:08:24 PM PDT by JATO (jihad does NOT translate as "holy war" it translates as "TOTAL WAR". Ask Hiroshima...)
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To: LiberalBassTurds
This cult has outlived its usefulness.

I was unaware that Islam ever had any use at all.

Thank you for enlightening me.
27 posted on 09/03/2004 8:19:18 PM PDT by RonHolzwarth ("History repeats itself - first as tragedy, then as farce" - Karl Marx)
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To: nuconvert

If you don't like doing it based on citizenship then I'd be happy if a similar plan was adopted based on residency. No complaint from me either way!


28 posted on 09/03/2004 8:24:12 PM PDT by American Soldier
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John

The U.S. JUST CONDUCTED A LOTTERY for granting citizenship to SELECTED foreign nationals trying to establish themselves here. The Countries included in the lottery were those judged "under-represented" in the present American population.

GUESS WHICH WAS ONE OF THE COUNTRIES WAS GIVEN A LARGE NUMBER OF CHANCES IN THIS LOTTERY???


EGYPT!!!!!!


The West and the U.S. has to WAKE UP from its somnolence.

Each Madrasseh, each Mosque, each new Islamic immigrant, is another cocked gun pointed at our heads, our children's heads, and our children's children's heads.

What happened in Russia can and WILL happen here unless we INSIST our government and our leaders STOP the continued FLOOD of Islamic invaders into America, and put those already here under the closest scrutiny.

For the sake of our CHILDREN we must prevent a repitition of the act of Fiendish horror committed in Russia in our own backyard.

Its beyond time to cut out the politically correct insanity.


29 posted on 09/03/2004 8:24:46 PM PDT by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns)
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To: Doe Eyes
And I would like to see a joint cleansing effort. They sure as heck won't police themselves so "Allah" should do it during virgin assignments.
mc
30 posted on 09/03/2004 8:27:00 PM PDT by mcshot ("When you don't think too good, don't think too much" Ted Williams)
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John

This cretin needs a date with a Hellfire.


31 posted on 09/03/2004 8:28:05 PM PDT by mikegi
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To: American Soldier

Don't forget that Egypt was a Nazis asylum after World War II, like Argentina. Alois Brunner, Leopold Gleim, Oskar Dirlewanger, and untold thousands of Nazis and Nazis collaborator monsters were given shelter in Egypt. Brunner is Adolf Eichmann's lieutenant, who is now in Syria. Gleim is head of the Polish division of the Gestapo and SS Colonial, who was the head of the Egyptian police force. Mosser is a SS General who killed Ukrainian Jews and was an aide to Nasser.


32 posted on 09/03/2004 8:30:22 PM PDT by Ptarmigan
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To: American Soldier

I point it out, because that's where our planes that used to be in Saudi are now.
A little cooperation from the gov't there would be nice.


33 posted on 09/03/2004 8:30:43 PM PDT by nuconvert (Everyone has a photographic memory. Some don't have film.)
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To: Ptarmigan

Sorry, I forgot to mention who Dirlewanger was. He was a SS general known for his brutality.


34 posted on 09/03/2004 8:31:21 PM PDT by Ptarmigan
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John

Refuse US visas to any person who is Moslem. Require them to renounce Islam, to get a visa.


35 posted on 09/03/2004 8:34:31 PM PDT by Tax Government (Promote democracy: help drive the democRat party to extinction.)
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To: Robert_Paulson2

Americans have yet to face up to what Islam really is, and we have not yet done that. We have tended to think of them as civilized people, and they are not that.


36 posted on 09/03/2004 8:37:02 PM PDT by tessalu
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To: RonHolzwarth
This cult has outlived its usefulness.

I was unaware that Islam ever had any use at all. Thank you for enlightening me.


Actually it did...about 1,200 years ago. It united the Arabian Peninsula. Since then it's been all downhill.

LBT

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37 posted on 09/03/2004 8:52:16 PM PDT by LiberalBassTurds (Al Qaeda needs to know we are fluent in the "dialogue of bullets.")
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To: RonHolzwarth
And you're welcome.

LBT

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38 posted on 09/03/2004 8:52:55 PM PDT by LiberalBassTurds (Al Qaeda needs to know we are fluent in the "dialogue of bullets.")
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To: Bommer

Since the US lacks any real balls to send the Islamic world a message, I really hope that Putin does. He should pick the most populated Islamic cities in Chechnya and nuke them, Hydrogen bomb and all. Then tell the Arab world that the next attack by Islamic facists and "we'll nuke Medenia and then Meeca." Knowing that they possess the capability to do this and that they are a 3rd world sh!t hole, I would bet that Islam backs off in a hurry. You'd see Mullahs slaughtered by the thousands by regular muslims who finally stand up for their religion




Too late for that suggestion.

Main city in Chechnya, Grozny, was leveled several years ago (albeit with conventional rather than nuclear bombs).
http://www.hrvc.net/main.htm

Tens of thousands died, and the Russian army has been chasing the survivors into the surrounding hills for years. This week's assault on the school is one more action in this ongoing war.
http://www.hrvc.net/htmls/reports.htm

There will no doubt be more.


39 posted on 09/03/2004 9:17:45 PM PDT by Blue_Ridge_Mtn_Geek
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John

Amazing what a twenty cent bullet could do to make the world a better place.


40 posted on 09/03/2004 9:25:51 PM PDT by Fast1
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To: zarf

Does this mean that the Muslim religion IS as the terrorist show it? Looks like the cleric is calling on them to kill Americans.

What a barbaric religion. It worships hate, killing, cruelty and does not know or even understand love. They worship the devil and don't even know it.


41 posted on 09/03/2004 9:40:51 PM PDT by ClancyJ (Vote for President Bush - For our grandchildren. Democrats are not to be trusted with our country)
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To: Radix

'Those moderate Muslims....'

A moderate muslim is a muslim who has run out of ammunition.


42 posted on 09/03/2004 10:06:26 PM PDT by Bazooka (Just say anything you think. They hate our guts anyway.)
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To: Ptarmigan

You might also have mentioned his conviction for vice crimes in the 1930's, says enough about the man's twisted morals and complete absence of respect.


43 posted on 09/03/2004 10:13:13 PM PDT by Bazooka (Just say what you think. They hate our guts anyway.)
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To: Ptarmigan

Dirlewanger, I mean.


44 posted on 09/03/2004 10:14:29 PM PDT by Bazooka (Just say what you think. They hate our guts anyway.)
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John

"Al-Qaradawi was one of 93 prominent Muslim figures who in August called on Muslims around the world to support resistance against U.S. forces in Iraq and its appointed interim Iraqi government."

I see a war plan forming and it involves 93 targets, with this moron as a start.


45 posted on 09/03/2004 11:07:51 PM PDT by iThinkBig
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To: Bazooka

What did Dirlewanger do in the 1930s?


46 posted on 09/04/2004 7:36:29 PM PDT by Ptarmigan
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To: kevao

GOOD POINT!...My hat off to you!


47 posted on 09/04/2004 7:39:07 PM PDT by Hotdog
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John

This is how EVERY Mohammedan feels, and if y ou don't recognize it, you're an idiot.


48 posted on 09/04/2004 7:40:01 PM PDT by Guillermo (It's the 99% of Mohammedans that make the other 1% look bad.)
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John
If those kidnappers care about the reputation of Islam they should free the two French journalists

It's about too late for the baby killers. Islam is going to have a reputation for about the next 1000 years. Similar to the past 1000 years, but with the massacre of schoolkids in addition.

49 posted on 09/04/2004 7:40:17 PM PDT by RightWhale (Withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty and establish property rights)
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