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George Jr sent out of Texas by father as a 'drunken liability'(Barf Alert)
Guardian UK ^ | 9/3/04 | Gary Younge

Posted on 09/03/2004 9:47:56 PM PDT by alydar

This is so reprehensible I had to do some research about this 'newspaper' Although he didn't write this rubbish I discovered a rather familiar name on their payroll. If you've ever wondered what ever happened to Howell Raines you now know the answer.To think the New York Times made somebody that associates with rubbish like this their Executive Editor makes my skin crawl.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bush; heisnotajunior; jaysonblair; medialies; mediamythmaking

1 posted on 09/03/2004 9:47:56 PM PDT by alydar
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To: alydar

"Bush used to be a drunk"

Yeah, that'll win the election for them.

File this under 'bottom of the barrel, scraping'.


2 posted on 09/03/2004 9:49:43 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Senator Kerry is all rice, no shrapnel.)
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To: alydar

You've got to be kidding. How did Raines get this job? This was the only paper that actually printed true stories about Bill Clinton (when he was President) that the US papers ignored.


3 posted on 09/03/2004 9:49:45 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Jeff Chandler
any chance they'll be an investigation into kerry's slurry performance last night?

"senator kerry, did you or did you not have any alcoholic beverage before your midnight speech in ohio???"

Come on, if it's relevant for bush, it's relevant for kerry!
4 posted on 09/03/2004 9:51:21 PM PDT by flashbunny (Hey - click on my name to see an anti-kerry bumper sticker! Do it! Now!!!)
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To: alydar

Yawn...

5 Legislative Days Left Until The AWB Expires

5 posted on 09/03/2004 9:51:27 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

I believe you may be thinking of the Telegraph.


6 posted on 09/03/2004 9:51:33 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Bush took less time to find Saddam that Hillary did to find the Rose Law Firm billing records!)
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To: Arizona Carolyn
This is funny. I think Bush might have mentioned a problem with alcohol once, in passing. None of us had any idea he ever had an alcohol problem.

Christ, what a bunch of idiots. They are running against an incumbent. They still haven't figured that out.
7 posted on 09/03/2004 9:52:23 PM PDT by Belisaurius ("Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, Ted" - Joseph Kennedy 1958)
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To: alydar

The Guardian (which used to be named The Manchester Guardian before it went national) has historically been the liberal newspaper of record in the UK, much as the NY Times is in the US.


8 posted on 09/03/2004 9:52:41 PM PDT by quidnunc (Omnis Gaul delenda est)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Yet Kerry gives a semi-televised stump speech 3 sheets to the wind, and nary a word from the NYT Cabal.


9 posted on 09/03/2004 9:54:17 PM PDT by L`enn
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To: alydar
George Jr sent out of Texas by father as a 'drunken liability'

But look at him now!

10 posted on 09/03/2004 9:56:36 PM PDT by lewislynn (Why do the same people who think "free trade" is the answer also want less foreign oil dependence?)
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To: Jeff Chandler

They'll have to do a lot better than that!

How about waiting unti lten days before the election and then springing an old DUI arrest?

Oh, that's right - the democrat party already tried that in 2000.


11 posted on 09/03/2004 9:56:49 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: alydar

"Bush used to be a drunk"


Well, Kendedy IS a drunk.


12 posted on 09/03/2004 9:57:37 PM PDT by frankcastle
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To: alydar

I got all that crud in a giddy e-mail from a lib friend today -- 20 pages of it -- it was just incoherent rambling from one bitter woman--totally unsubstantiated by anything and nothing new.


13 posted on 09/03/2004 9:58:49 PM PDT by altura (Didn't think it possible but the dems did it. --found someone worse than Clinton or Gore.)
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To: alydar

I assume the Guardian has never heard the story of the Prodigal Son? Too bad.


14 posted on 09/03/2004 10:01:22 PM PDT by marvlus
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To: alydar
I have noticed a new viciousness by both the Telegraph and the Guardian lately towards W and Republicans. Actually, they sound like little 12 year old girls gossiping.

I guess they figure we won't notice. HAHAHA!
15 posted on 09/03/2004 10:02:53 PM PDT by NavySEAL F-16 (Proud to be a Reagan Republican)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

The president has taken some heat for his drinking career and come out of it like a man. I'd hate to see people judging my own life based only on my years as a stupid drunk. It takes a real winner to get off the bottle for good.

This stuff doesn't cut it. We know our president.


16 posted on 09/03/2004 10:07:37 PM PDT by Luke21 (Christ is wonderful)
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To: altura

lol, I pulled up to a stop light, this lady 50ish with Pro Kerrey stickers on her car next to me. I looked over at her dashboard and she had this bumper sticker pasted on the dash "W = murder"... Her windows were open so I shouted out 4 more years she fliped me the bird! hehe I've never felt so alive!


17 posted on 09/03/2004 10:12:23 PM PDT by KingNo155
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To: Belisaurius

Next thing we know, they will be telling us Kerry was in Vietnam.


18 posted on 09/03/2004 10:12:55 PM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: Jeff Chandler
Susan Estrogen was raising the same slanders in her column today.

Maybe the Dims will finally get the negative ad backlash they've been waiting for-- only Kerry will get it, not Bush. LOL!

19 posted on 09/03/2004 10:13:01 PM PDT by pierrem15
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To: alydar

Al Guardian is global HQ for the Hate America Cult, with a non-stop message of demonization, insult, and distortion for its dwindling audience of middle-class chatterati and Islamofascist immigrant.


20 posted on 09/03/2004 10:15:01 PM PDT by atomic conspiracy (Anti-war Movement: Roadkill on the Highway to Freedom)
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To: Luke21

It is a good thing we all grow up, my mispent youth was a disaster. Then I got married 44 years ago, and remain with that tried and true love to this day.


21 posted on 09/03/2004 10:16:15 PM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: Luke21

"I was blind but now I see"...thanks for recalling those wonderful words, Zell.


22 posted on 09/03/2004 10:16:39 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: alydar
I remeber 4 years ago there was "shocking" video of Bush drunk, and it turned out to be a wedding video (you know where the camera goes around the room and people say stupid stuff) and he had, OMG, a drink in his hand.

The drinking demons were already pulled last election. Won't wash this one. They need a new sin.

23 posted on 09/03/2004 10:18:17 PM PDT by Jalapeno
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To: Jeff Chandler; alydar
"Bush used to be a drunk"

So what. Ted Kennedy is still a drunk.

24 posted on 09/03/2004 10:21:58 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

But Bush is sober now, but Kerry is still a communist one world government believer.


25 posted on 09/03/2004 10:22:05 PM PDT by FairOpinion (FIGHT TERRORISM! VOTE BUSH/CHENEY 2004.)
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To: alydar

Let's just see who this Linda Allison really cares about...

Go ahead, click the link.

http://www.newsmeat.com/fec/bystate_detail.php?zip=10021&last=ALLISON&first=LINDA


26 posted on 09/03/2004 10:22:29 PM PDT by Right_Handed_Writer
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To: pierrem15
Maybe the Dims will finally get the negative ad backlash they've been waiting for-- only Kerry will get it, not Bush.

You're so right! I've had conversations with some rather non-political co-workers this week that confirm this effect. Most people are very sensitive to hypocracy from politicians and this "Bush was a drunk" stuff is like shiite into the fan! Blowback city!
27 posted on 09/03/2004 10:22:56 PM PDT by cartoonistx
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To: alydar

"KLINTON SOLD CHINA SECRETS TO SUPPORT HIS COCAINE HABIT"--How's that?


28 posted on 09/03/2004 10:23:58 PM PDT by longfellow (You're either with US or from Hollywood! Ultimateamerican.com)
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To: alydar

You notice this woman did not tell her story until her husband died. So the man that Bush 41 supposedly spoke to cannot confirm or deny the story. Same with the story about how 43 got in the National Guard...the 'family friend' who supposedly made the request has recently passed away and can no longer deny the story. These stories are merely hearsay. Besides, unlike Kerry, Bush is not running on his Vietnam era record.


29 posted on 09/03/2004 10:39:56 PM PDT by goldfinch
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To: alydar

The reason GWB's drunken episodes will never be a problem, he's already made them known to the public.

I've often heard him speak of his abuses of alcohol, even when speaking to guys at half-way houses, etc.


30 posted on 09/03/2004 10:41:58 PM PDT by dawn53
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To: Right_Handed_Writer
Ding,ding,ding,ding.Bookmarked.If this swine ever gets US MSM coverage we'll be ready.Nice.
31 posted on 09/03/2004 10:43:13 PM PDT by alydar
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To: Luke21

Well, Susan Estrich said in her editorial they were going to go after Bush's drinking history -- hard! Is it just me, or is this soooooo far removed from anything near the Swift Boat Vets to be almost pathetically laughable?


32 posted on 09/03/2004 10:49:43 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Slings and Arrows

Now that you mention it -- I think you're correct. I know I was so shocked to find it was actually a British Newspaper that was trying to tell us what was happening.


33 posted on 09/03/2004 10:53:09 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: pierrem15
You mean this Susan?


34 posted on 09/03/2004 11:11:19 PM PDT by CedarDave (USCG Vietnam vet to DC from NM on 9/12 for the "Kerry Lied..While Good Men Died" rally. Come join us)
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To: alydar
This may be annoying but will not change any votes because Bush as a reformed heavy drinker is already well-known and discounted even if the details are obscure. Dragging this up now is the press equivalent of little leaguers heckling a batter: it can be a distraction, but only if the batter lets it affect him.

On the fundamentals, Bush will win or lose based primarily on two things: his performance in office, especially as to jobs and the economy; and whether Kerry is plausible as a better choice. Both of these factors weigh against Kerry.
35 posted on 09/03/2004 11:16:02 PM PDT by Rockingham
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To: alydar

Tired old news. And isn't it better to have a SOBER person in the White House, than a whiny, wine-soaked liberal?


36 posted on 09/03/2004 11:26:14 PM PDT by Rightfootforward
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To: Arizona Carolyn

It is crazy the way the media whip around now trying to throw sleaze at Bush. They've been doing it for four years while he has demonstrated his leadership and kept this nation safe. The nation is just now focusing on the race and it likes this president.

The man is a Christian and in recovery from the bottle. I have nothing but admiration for him.


37 posted on 09/03/2004 11:31:55 PM PDT by Luke21 (Christ is wonderful)
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To: alydar
Let me see if I get this straight

1) George H.W. Bush is ambassador to the U.N.
2) X41 calls up a pal in Alabama, tells his friend that his son is a drunk, and asks him to hire the drunk for his political campaign, nonetheless.
3) Even though x41 is Ambassador to the U.N. in New York, he cares whether 43 is in Texas or Alabama. In Texas, 43 will embarrass Bush. But the states of Louisiana and Mississipi somehow insulate the U.N. ambassador from the U.S. from any embarrassment.
4) And his friend hires 43 for his political campaign, even though he's been told that 43 is a drunk that could embarrass him.

This stupid Kerry-planted story makes no sense.
38 posted on 09/04/2004 12:31:19 AM PDT by conservative in nyc
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To: alydar; All
Just send 'em back this pic, will you please? Thanks!


39 posted on 09/04/2004 12:52:12 AM PDT by Seadog Bytes (OPM* -- The Liberal solution to ALL of America's problems. (*...Other People's Money.))
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To: dawn53

Has anyone out there read "God and George W. Bush" by Paul Kengor? It came out in August. I've spent the last two Sunday evenings in Barnes and Noble reading it---- I'm on a tight budget and can't buy it--- it's really hard to put down. Great book.


40 posted on 09/04/2004 1:01:42 AM PDT by Mockingbird For Short ("When the Son of Man comes, will He find faith on the earth?" Luke 18:8)
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To: alydar
I cannot believe that anyone with an IQ of 80 and higher believes that stories like this are going to hurt President Bush.

Liberals have reached a level of desperation that is beyond comprehension.

41 posted on 09/04/2004 9:18:30 PM PDT by jveritas
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To: alydar

For all recovered alcoholics -- we admire the courage it took to quit drinking and change your habits. god bless you!


42 posted on 09/04/2004 9:55:39 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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