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Notorious Chechen Rebel Masterminded School Seige (Al Quaeda!)
Moscow News ^ | 9/3/04 | Moscow News

Posted on 09/03/2004 10:37:19 PM PDT by Flightdeck

Notorious Chechen Rebel Masterminded School Seige — Report Created: 03.09.2004 19:27 MSK (GMT +3), Updated: 19:41 MSK, 13 hours 7 minutes ago

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Rebel Chechen leader, Shamil Bassayev, was the mastermind behind the school siege in the North Ossetian town of Beslan, ITAR-TASS news agency reported quoting spokesmen of the Southern Federal District secret service.

The operation was organized by Bassayev’s subordinate, Magomet Yevloyev. He is also suspected of having organized the attack in Ingushetia in June.

Another infamous Chechen rebel, Doku Umarov, was among the rebels who attacked the school. He was the only one not to wear a mask, with hostages subsequently recognizing him, the NTV television channel reported.

The operations headquarters in Beslan stressed that the group that seized the school was multinational. Most of the killed gunmen were born in Arab countries. The suicide bombers were trained by the al-Qaeda specialists, the agency quoted the secret service as saying.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; Russia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaedarussia; bassayev; cair; cairdoesntcare; cairsilentonchechnya; caucasus; jihad; muslims; ossetia; silencefromcair; silenceissupport; whereiscair
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"The suicide bombers were trained by the al-Qaeda specialists, the agency quoted the secret service as saying."

Nuff said

1 posted on 09/03/2004 10:37:20 PM PDT by Flightdeck
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To: Flightdeck

Bookmark


2 posted on 09/03/2004 10:40:50 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter (http://www.angelfire.com/ultra/terroristscorecard)
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To: Flightdeck
Seeing how many of terrorists were Arab and not Chechen, it was obvious from early on that Al-Qaeda was directly involved.
3 posted on 09/03/2004 10:43:50 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Hannity Was Right, FReepers Tend To Eat Their Own)
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To: Flightdeck
Let there be no doubt, this was Russias 911.

The bear will strike at the time and place of their choosing.......and beyond that, they will project power to pre-empt/destroy the groups and states that make this possible. This fight will no longer be an "internal struggle" in Russia.

I see a grand alliance between Russia, the Anglosphere, Israel and India in this, the next great world war.

4 posted on 09/03/2004 10:46:29 PM PDT by Mariner
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To: Flightdeck
"Most of the killed gunmen were born in Arab countries."

Now there is a shocker. Time for open season on these assholes. They don't respect innocent life so why should worry about knocking their sorry asses off?

5 posted on 09/03/2004 10:47:09 PM PDT by blackbart.223
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To: Flightdeck

May Muhammadans break from their death cult of terror or see mushroom clouds take their misery away...along with ours.


6 posted on 09/03/2004 10:49:37 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution (DemocRATS are communists and want to destroy America only to replace it with the USSA)
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To: Flightdeck
Warning: Graphic pictures


7 posted on 09/03/2004 10:49:39 PM PDT by fight_truth_decay
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To: Flightdeck
Rebel Chechen leader, Shamil Bassayev, was the mastermind behind the school siege in the North Ossetian town of Beslan

When is the western press going to start referring to these nutcases as terrorists?

8 posted on 09/03/2004 10:51:40 PM PDT by The_Victor
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To: fight_truth_decay

The pictures...are those on YOUR server? The reason I'm asking is I want a Freeper to save them so they don't disappear.


9 posted on 09/03/2004 10:51:51 PM PDT by Bradís Gramma
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To: Flightdeck

I'm sure this Islamic cockroach thinks he's just the greatest genius Allah ever spawned, but...

A friend of mine with a long background in law enforcement made an interesting comment a couple of weeks ago. He said that Al Quaida was stupid in taking down the Twin Towers - that if they wanted to bring the US to heel, what they should do is to attack some schoolyards and kill a bunch of schoolchildren. In his cynical view of things, the soccer moms of America would then arise in a solid wailing mass to demand that we just get out of the Middle East and give al-Quaida whatever they want, and would defeat any politician who didn't go along with them.

Now, I disagree with him. I think the fury that would be generated in this country by such an act, would completely overwhelm any wails for appeasement on the part of terrified mothers. But... it occurs to me that the subhuman filth who perpetrated this atrocity in Russia, may have been thinking along the same lines as my friend was suggesting...


10 posted on 09/03/2004 10:52:21 PM PDT by fire_eye (Socialism is the opiate of academia.)
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To: Mariner
Let there be no doubt, this was Russias 911.

No, Russia was already way past 911 before this.

11 posted on 09/03/2004 10:52:31 PM PDT by Jalapeno
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To: Flightdeck

bttt


12 posted on 09/03/2004 10:54:50 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: blackbart.223
Please let us not forget that the terrorists are being aided and abetted by the out-of-power communists in Russia; and, to an extent their operatives in the rest of the free world. CPUSA, eg.

This battle is against two enemies who, for convenience, have epoxied themselves. Ron Silver gets it.

13 posted on 09/03/2004 10:55:53 PM PDT by dasboot (<img src="XXX">)
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To: blackbart.223
I sure hope the Russians don't put panties on the captured freedom fighters heads. That would be an atrocity.
14 posted on 09/03/2004 10:56:26 PM PDT by Texasforever (God can send you to hell but he can't sue you. He can't find a lawyer.)
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To: fire_eye

This is America with Al Gore as president


15 posted on 09/03/2004 10:58:27 PM PDT by Flightdeck (I love the smell of French toast in the morning)
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To: Brad's Gramma

go to that link...http://www.homestead.com/prosites-prs/index.html

Savage nation, Michael put them up today.


16 posted on 09/03/2004 11:04:48 PM PDT by fight_truth_decay
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To: Texasforever
This was Russia's 9/11 and they won't forget. Putin knows he's got to get in front of this one or he's toast.

And in an unrelated thread, I'm pushing Bush up from 45-49 states to 50. The people will speak and the left will be devastated. Kind of like they always are.

17 posted on 09/03/2004 11:05:03 PM PDT by nunya bidness (You can fool some of the people some of the time...)
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To: Flightdeck
Has there been any definite number of dead hostages? I've heard anywhere between 150 and 500.

Anyway, here's a picture of Basayev I found. I give this guy about 3 weeks to live:


18 posted on 09/03/2004 11:05:17 PM PDT by StoneFury
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To: fight_truth_decay

Yeah...I knew to go to the link. Thanks for telling me it was Michael. HE will keep them "out there". I'm just afraid that as with 9-11, these pictures won't be around anymore.

For our own good and all that crap.


19 posted on 09/03/2004 11:06:41 PM PDT by Bradís Gramma
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To: Texasforever
"I sure hope the Russians don't put panties on the captured freedom fighters heads. That would be an atrocity."

A bullit between the running lights would be a better choice in my humble opinion.

20 posted on 09/03/2004 11:08:06 PM PDT by blackbart.223
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To: Texasforever

One wounded Islamic terrorist was already hung by the families and then shot in the head. I understand another or others were kicked to death!


21 posted on 09/03/2004 11:08:42 PM PDT by fight_truth_decay
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To: nunya bidness
And in an unrelated thread, I'm pushing Bush up from 45-49 states to 50. The people will speak and the left will be devastated. Kind of like they always are.

I have to hand it to you. You may very well be right.

22 posted on 09/03/2004 11:09:37 PM PDT by Texasforever (God can send you to hell but he can't sue you. He can't find a lawyer.)
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To: Flightdeck

Tonight I blundered upon some horrific Russian coverage of the terrorist attack on C-Span. (1)

It tore at one's heart to see those little children murdered by the "religion of peace" thugs.

The Russian reporter said something that was interesting. She said when the terrorists detonated the bombs and started firing upon the fleeing hostages, local residents immediatey returned fire. Then the Russian special forces were forced to finish the grisly work of taking out the terrorists because they had no choice once the scum perps started killing the hostages.

So it seems Russsian citizens do have the right to keep arms. The wife and I saw sporting rifles and even single barrel shotguns in the hands of men wearing working clothes.

Here is the email address of the Russian embassy if anyone should like to offer sympathy to the Russian people during this horrible time.

russianembassy@mindspring.com


23 posted on 09/03/2004 11:09:45 PM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: blackbart.223

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1206871/posts


24 posted on 09/03/2004 11:11:27 PM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: StoneFury

Oh' for a chance at cross hairs centered on spawn of satan's forehead as I gently tickled the trigger


25 posted on 09/03/2004 11:16:20 PM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: Flightdeck
We should be cautious about claiming that just because some of these rebels are Arab looking to make the giant leap to assume that they are Islamic Terrorists. We can't just willy-nilly make the assumption that because some of them are or look like Arabs or Muslim that in fact they are. We should let the professionals in the media properly research the facts before we make that kind of assumption. Who knows? May they just are misunderstood.

Then again they could be blood sucking Al Quida terrorists that should have their genitals hooked to telephone power supplies and then have their heads severed. And F*ck the press.
26 posted on 09/03/2004 11:18:08 PM PDT by jongaltsr (Hope to See ya in Galt's Gultch.)
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To: Ursus arctos horribilis

I already e-mailed the consulate. I didn't say anything about politics, i.e. now that you can empathize you can support what we're doing. I just told them I prayed for the families of the victims. I assume they understand the rest.


27 posted on 09/03/2004 11:19:42 PM PDT by Flightdeck (I love the smell of French toast in the morning)
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To: jongaltsr

Yeah, I read your first paragraph itching to respond, and realized after the second that you might get it after all.


28 posted on 09/03/2004 11:21:34 PM PDT by Flightdeck (I love the smell of French toast in the morning)
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To: fight_truth_decay
"Poetic justice. I hope it's true."
29 posted on 09/03/2004 11:27:48 PM PDT by blackbart.223
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To: Mariner

Don't leave out parts of Africa --- Nigeria and the Sudan for example. Maybe they're tired of the slaughter they've suffered at the hands of muslims also.


30 posted on 09/03/2004 11:41:53 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: Flightdeck

Of course there's ties between the Chechan terrorists and Al-Qaeda itself. That's always been known long before 9/11, at least as far I am concerned. Many of these same Chechan terrorists fought alongside OBL when Russia went to war with Afghanistan in the 1980's. Many of these spilintered terrorist groups operate with different tactics, under different names by different leaders. I believe today they all are interconnected.


31 posted on 09/03/2004 11:50:26 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Real gun control is - all shots inside the ten ring)
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To: jongaltsr

In this day and age, don't count on the media to do your "homework" for you. They would just as soon pin the blame for all of this on Bush going to war in Iraq before arriving at the truth.


32 posted on 09/03/2004 11:56:49 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Real gun control is - all shots inside the ten ring)
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To: Brad's Gramma

Let's see how many demand Russia not use the death penalty.

And how many will demand that it is a policing issue, not a military one.


33 posted on 09/04/2004 12:06:51 AM PDT by DB (©)
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To: fight_truth_decay

"One wounded Islamic terrorist was already hung by the families and then shot in the head. I understand another or others were kicked to death!"

I am sure the Western press is outraged at their not being given a fair trial with due process
Oh, the horror of it!!!
Why, they probably think this makes the Russians as bad as the terrorists!


34 posted on 09/04/2004 12:38:34 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration
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To: Flightdeck

that is why we need to be sure these people never gain access to our country's leadership.


35 posted on 09/04/2004 12:41:24 AM PDT by television is just wrong
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To: Flightdeck

None of us should be surprised by this.


36 posted on 09/04/2004 12:41:34 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: fight_truth_decay

OMG. They were just babies.


38 posted on 09/04/2004 1:02:37 AM PDT by GVnana
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To: COEXERJ145

10 of the child-killing muslims were Arab. Al-Quida no doubt.


39 posted on 09/04/2004 1:04:43 AM PDT by Walkin Man
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To: The_Victor

Please do not leave out the operative words, Muslim, Mohammeden, Islamic, Arab, that should preceed terrorist. Only one at a time is necessary, except for Arab, which should be used anytime Arab is also operative along with one of the other three, the world needs to know sooner rather than later.


40 posted on 09/04/2004 3:07:19 AM PDT by wita (truthspeaks@freerepublic.com)
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To: Flightdeck

An Al Qaeda operation.

President Bush is right to fight these folks, and John Kerry and his anti-war crowd is wrong.

These people want to murder our children.


41 posted on 09/04/2004 3:57:01 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army and Supporting Bush/Cheney 2004!)
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To: fortheDeclaration

"if we stoop to their level... then WE are as bad as.... blah blah blah?"

yeah... already saw it here. some freepers or trolls.
zot bait.

terrorists are not guaranteed trials.


42 posted on 09/04/2004 4:04:29 AM PDT by Robert_Paulson2 (Robert the "RINO")
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To: Mariner
Let there be no doubt, this was Russias 911.

No, Russia's 9/11 were bombings of apartment bulidings in Moscow, invasion of Dagestan, and NATO attack on Serbia. It all took place in 1999.

43 posted on 09/04/2004 5:29:31 AM PDT by A. Pole (Madeleine Albright:"We are the indispensable nation. We stand tall. We see further into the future.")
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To: Mariner
The bear will strike at the time and place of their choosing.......and beyond that, they will project power to pre-empt/destroy the groups and states that make this possible. This fight will no longer be an "internal struggle" in Russia.

That is doubtful. They are more European Socialist Pacifists now. They sided with the Canadians and the French, and are not capable of defending themselves any longer.

They had their chance in Iraq. They have had terrorism for years, and little has been done.

They can expect killings and explosions for decades.

44 posted on 09/04/2004 6:01:28 AM PDT by alrea
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To: Ursus arctos horribilis
So it seems Russsian citizens do have the right to keep arms.

I don't think anybody cares about gun laws out there. Whoever wants a gun, simply gets one. Law or no law. I hope the Russians organize some militia or something. The guns are there, the organization is lacking.
45 posted on 09/04/2004 7:22:21 AM PDT by silversky
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To: alrea
They can expect killings and explosions for decades.

Actually, they've been dealing with that for centuries. Geography matters. N America is geographically shielded. You have to give it to the Russians - the understand terrorism much better. Iraq makes their job harder. They new it would turn into a tug nest in the interim.
46 posted on 09/04/2004 7:26:40 AM PDT by silversky
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To: silversky
You have to give it to the Russians - the understand terrorism much better. Iraq makes their job harder. They new it would turn into a tug nest in the interim.

Do you mean that they would have had less killing and fewer massacres recently had the war in Iraq not happened? Do you mean that they "knew" our war efforts would bring more trouble for them?

47 posted on 09/04/2004 7:36:38 AM PDT by alrea (Help Wanted: State of New Jersey Director of Homeland Security. Must be experienced and HOT.)
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To: silversky

Just to be clear for the idiot media

REBEL-opposition, fighting against the government

TERRORISM - violence committed by groups in order to intimidate a population or government into granting their demands

When you attack civilians, children no less, you have crossed the line from rebel to terrorist. Would the MSM just start calling it that!!!!


48 posted on 09/04/2004 7:37:38 AM PDT by BushFaninATL
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To: alrea

Yes


49 posted on 09/04/2004 7:42:57 AM PDT by silversky
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To: BushFaninATL

The UN will send a condemnation of these attacks, but if the governement assasinates Shamil Bassayev the UN will REALLY BE MAD (i.e. - Sheik Ahmed Yassin from Hamas)

By the way - has the UN condemend the bus boming in Israel from last week. I highly doubt it.


50 posted on 09/04/2004 7:43:18 AM PDT by BushFaninATL
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