Posted on 09/03/2004 11:17:03 PM PDT by LiberalBassTurds
Good read, but this guy should be hunted down and killed. This conflict has been one of brutality and is still a training ground for the Islamic terrorists we are now fighting.
It would not bother me one bit if the Russians leveled the place with nucs.
9/11 happened because Clinton admin ties to Islamic movements created a blow back. They followed the intel channels created under Clinton back into America in the 90s.
Ref 14 written by Lunev should be reposted here
http://www.newsmax.com/articles/?a=1999/8/25/210119
Chechen Terrorists in Dagestan - Made in Russia
Col. Stanislav Lunev
August 26, 1999
In recent days thousands of armed militants, professing to be members of the extremist Islamic Wahhabi sect, have seized several villages near the Dagestan border with Chechnya. They have declared independence from the Russian Federation (RF) and have demanded that Russian troops leave Dagestan. The RF government, busy with the crisis surrounding Yeltsin's firing of his fourth Prime Minister in 17 months, has responded with massive military force. The government information agency ITAR-TASS quoted the new Prime Minister, Vladimir Putin, as saying on August 10 that the conflict would be over in two weeks.
The question of Dagastan independence presents a rather complex historical, political, and socio- economic problem which needs to be resolved, but the brutal methods of achieving this by the Islamic militants cannot be condoned. Russian officials condemn these militants as "bandits" and "terrorists" but ignore that Russian officials themselves are the ones who created this highly volatile situation in the first place.
The former USSR had a long-term policy of supporting international terrorism; and this policy has not been abandoned in present, supposedly democratic, Russia. According to reports in the Russian press, just as before, there is within the GRU (intelligence directorate for the Russian Armed Forces) a network of special centers and camps for training saboteurs ("diversionaries"). Similar facilities have been established by other Russian special services such as the FSB (Federal Security Service--chief successor to the KGB domestic espionage) and others.
In the former USSR the training of terrorists, officially called "freedom fighters," was done for political purposes. In today's RF, where everything is for sale, this training is done for hire. Moreover, starting in 1992, the new Russian leaders began to follow the old Soviet policy of divide and conquer in the so-called "near abroad." Separatist forces in Moldova, Georgia, Tadzhikistan, and other former Soviet republics have been supported by Russian special services, with the blessing and insistence of the highest military and political leaders, including the president himself. In these republics, detachments--officially called "diversionary groups"--were trained and outfitted under Russian command.
At first these detachments served genuine Russian interests, creating zones of instability in the newly established states whose leaders refused to follow Moscow's orders and demanded complete independence. But later the members of these detachments, who had been trained as saboteurs, started functioning as partisan terrorists. As to be expected, in time local, ethnic and religious loyalties began to take precedence over Pan-Russian interests on the part of the very detachments that had been spawned by the Russian special services.
This is precisely what has happened with the chief antagonist in recent events in Dagestan, the warlord Shamil Basayev, whose militant units have proven to be formidable adversaries. Basayev became known in Russia and abroad after the slaughter in Budennovsk in June of 1995, when his fighters kidnaped hundreds of people and kept them hostage for several days in a little town in southern Russia. After the Chechnya War he was for a time Prime Minister of Chechnya but is best known for his terrorist activities.
But it is known only to a limited number of insiders that he is the creation of the Russian special services, which used him and others for separatist-terrorist operations in the non-Russian former Soviet republics. Chechen terrorist Shamil Basayev received his GRU training in sabotage in order to work behind enemy lines in Abkhazia (western Georgia). Abkhazian leaders are fighting for independence from Georgia and receive support from the RF through its important Black Sea naval facilities as part of its efforts to exploit the Abkhazian separatists against the Georgian government.
Shamil Basayev attracted the attention of the GRU through his active role in the defense of the so-called Russian White House in August 1991, when he, together with other Moscow-based Chechens, supported Boris Yeltsin's struggle against communist hard-liners. Then later Basayev received special training and, during the war of independence in Abkhazia in 1992-1993, became commander of the special "Chechen Battalion." As the Russian press noted, "Colonel" Shamil Basayev's detachment not only completed the training program but, under the direction of the GRU specialists, was also "broken in" under fire in Abkhazia. Their professionalism and courage were given the highest marks by Basayev himself.
Legends have circulated about the cruelty of Basayev's men during the Georgian-Abkhazian War. They purportedly drank their enemies' blood by the glass and invented a new form of execution, the "Chechen tongue," in which the victim's tongue is pulled out through his slit throat. All of this was shown on Russian television and described in the press numerous times. But the Russian authorities and the special services remained indifferent to the fanaticism of the Chechen terrorists, and they went unpunished. The people of the little Russian town of Budennovsk had to pay for this in 1995. And the people of several villages in Dagestan are paying for it right now with their blood.
Basayev graphically demonstrated how a sly student can turn what he has learned against his teacher. But Basayev isn't alone. A parallel development happened last year with the internationally known terrorist Osama bin Laden, who, with U.S. support, began his career in the Islamic resistance against Soviet troops in Afghanistan. But later he, too, used what he had been taught against his teacher, the Americans.
Basayev and bin Laden are interconnected and have a lot in common: Basayev proclaimed a holy war against Russia; bin Laden declared a holy war against America. Islamic militants in Dagestan are tapped into an international terrorist network with considerable resources. This network is connected not only to bin Laden but also to the Hezbollah guerrillas, the militant Islamic Jihad, and other terrorist groups. All of them have funding, expert training, and highly motivated fighting forces on their side. This is the nature of terrorism. And that nature cannot be overcome in any way other than by exposing and destroying it wherever and whenever it may occur in the world.
If the RF really wants to fight terrorism, it must abolish its terrorist training programs. It must also provide the international community with the GRU and the FSB archives and the rich experience gained from its involvement with terrorist groups. This would prove extremely valuable in future efforts against international terrorism. In view of the strained social and economic conditions in Russia it is also very important to find employment for former agents of the Russian special services as well as for workers in the military-industrial complex who produce the weapons and explosives used by terrorists and who, at present, are being recruited by both criminal and terrorist organizations.
It is abundantly clear, then, that if the Russian Federation means what it says about the unacceptability of terrorism, it must propose a series of joint measures to be taken by the world community against terrorism in all its manifestations. But, most of all, it must renounce all involvements which in any way contribute to the activity of terrorist groups.
But so far RF officials have limited themselves to slogans and tough talk against the terrorists but do nothing to stop them. This is because Russian special services still "urgently need" them in the former Soviet republics and elsewhere in the world in order to destabilize these areas for Russia's own purposes. Thus, the stubborn unwillingness of the Russian special services to divulge all the facts about the terrorists it has trained both in the USSR and now in the GRU and FSB becomes only too transparent.
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The wordings of this pre-9/11 article for a historian like myself indicate what the mindset was like during the Clinton era when al-Qaeda began using insurgency movements to spread its message and power. Note how the author describes al-Qaeda pre 9/11 "he traveled to Afghanistan and Pakistan for guerrilla training from the Mujahadin". You know, Mujahadin like the good guys in Rambo part 3.
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Newsmax is neocon filth that backed Clinton's pro Chechen polices, pro Bosnian and pro Albanian Muslim "Mujahadin" movements of "liberation".
This scum was in the Soviet military. He was not trained in terror tactics or guerilla war until he went to Afghanistan and Pakistan to train under our allies - what the Western press then called the "Mujahadin"
Thank him for nothing. The article he posted is garbage.
bump for later review
That article is garbage. The scum was trained in Afghanistan and Pakistan and was not part of a Soviet special terrorist unit.
good information, I knew that russian supported chechens fought in Georgia, but I didnt realise the man himself was there and was trained by GRU. Amazing
They may have fooled some weak minded individuals who know think al-Qaeda had a Soviet origin rather than having it be a mutation - a blow back - of the CIA's black war in Afghanistan.
If true - he is a product of both Soviet and indorect CIA training in Afghanistan. Or did we think the Mujahadin would forget their lessons from the CIA?
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