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NYPOST ^ | September 4, 2004 | Ralph Peters

Posted on 09/04/2004 8:00:04 AM PDT by jolie560

THE mass murder of children revolts the human psyche. Herod sending his henchmen to massacre the infants of Bethlehem haunts the Gospels. Nothing in our time was crueler than what the Germans did to children during the Holocaust. Slaughtering the innocents violates a universal human taboo. Or a nearly universal one. Those Muslims who preach Jihad against the West decided years ago that killing Jewish or Christian children is not only acceptable, but pleasing to their god when done by "martyrs."

It isn't politically correct to say this, of course. We're supposed to pretend that Islam is a "religion of peace." All right, then: It's time for Muslims to stand up for the once-noble, nearly lost traditions of their faith and condemn what Arab and Chechen terrorists and blasphemers did in the Russian town of Beslan.

If Muslim religious leaders around the world will not publicly condemn the taking of children as hostages and their subsequent slaughter — if those "men of faith" will not issue a condemnation without reservations or caveats — then no one need pretend any longer that all religions are equally sound and moral.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Russia; US: Michigan; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: cair; cairsilentonchechnya; islam; murder; muslims; ossetia; ralphpeters; silenceissupport; silenceofcair; whereiscair
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To: jolie560

I no longer use the word terrorist. It is too generic.

I use the words Arab Islamofascist. That is what they are and it is time to call them what they are. Every time a policically correct (or apologetic) so called journalist reports on these terrors they dance around what they are, even providing sympathetic names like rebel or resistance fighter.

I encourage everyone to call them what they are. Arab Islamofascist. Once the blame becomes more specific it will naturally lead to specific solutions. Lets take the anonymous identity off of these people and call them what they are.

These people better watch out because if enough trouble is caused in a country like Russia they might just find one of their homelands nuked.

If a stunt like this were to be pulled in the US I would imagine that we would see a response similar to what happened in Nepal when the people took to the streets and burned down the Mosque.

21 posted on 09/04/2004 8:14:28 AM PDT by Pylot
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To: Pylot
When will the equal response come?


1968 Robert Kennedy assassinated
1972 Munich Olympics Sep-5,1972 (Black September)
1976 Entebbe Hostage Crisis, June 27, 1976
1979 Iran Hostage Crisis, Nov. 4, 1979 444 days
1979 Grand Mosque Seizure, Nov 20,1979
1981 Assassination of Egyptian President, Oct 6,1981
1982 Assassination of Lebanese Prime Minister, Sept 14, 1982
1983 Bombing of US Embassy in Beirut6, April 18,1983
1983 Bombing of Maring Barricks, Beruit, Oct 23,1983
1984 Hizballah Restaurant Bombing, April 12,1984
1985 Egyptian Airliner Hijacking, Nov 23,1985
1985 Rome Airport murders
1985 TWA Flight 847 hijacked, U.S. Navy diver murdered
1985 Achille Lauro hijacking, Homacidal maniac lived in saddams Iraq
1986 Aircraft Bombing in Greece, March 30, 1986
1988 Pan Am 747 Flight 103 Bombing, Lockerbie, 100's murdered
1988 Berlin Discoteque Bombing, Dec 21,1988
1992 Bombing in Israeli Embassy in Argentina, March 17,1992
1993 Attempted Assassination of Pres. Bush Sr., April 14,1993
1993 First World Trade Center bombing, February 26th, 7 Killed, Hundreds injured, Billions
1994 Air France Hijacking, Dec 24,1994
1995 Attack on US Diplomats in Pakistan, Mar 8,1995
1995 Military Installation Attack, Nov 13, 1995
1995 Kashmiri Hostage taking, July 4,1995
1996 Khobar Towers attack
1996 Sudanese Missionarys Kidnapping, Aug 17,1996
1996 Paris Subway Explosion, Dec 3,1996
1997 Israeli Shopping Mall Bombing, Sept 4, 1997
1997 Yemeni Kidnappings, Oct 30,1997
1998 Somali Hostage taking crisis, April 15,1998
1998 U.S. Embassy Bombing in Peru, Jan 15, 1998
1998 U.S. Kenya Embassy blown up, 100's murdered
1998 U.S. Tanzania Embassy blown up, 100's murdered
1999 Plot to blow up Space Needle (thwarted)
2000 USS Cole attacked, many U.S. Navy sailors murdered
2000-2003 Intifada against Israel - 100's dead and injured
2000 Manila Bombing, Dec 30,2000
2001 4 Commercial airliners hijacked, 250+ murdered
2001 World Trade Center attacked, 2800+ murdered
2001 Flight 93 murders
2001 Pentagon attacked, 180+ murdered
2002 Reporter Daniel Pearl, kidnapped and murdered
2002 Philippines American missionary, Filipino nurse killed
2002 July 4, El Al attack Los Angeles LAX, several murdered
2002 Bali bombing - 200 dead, 300 injured
2002 Yemen, French Oil Tanker attacked
2002 Marines attacked / murdered in Kuwait
2002 Washington D.C. sniper
2002 Russian Theater attacked, 100+ dead
2002 Nigerian riots against Miss World Pageant, 200 dead, dozens injured
2002 Mombasa Hotel Attacked, 12 dead, dozens injured
2002 Israeli Boeing 757 attacked by missiles, fortunately no one injured
2002 August Hotel bombing in Jakarta, Indonesia. 12 dead, dozens injured.
2003 Rusian concert bombing
2003 Phillipines airport and market bombing
2003 Foiled SAM plot in the USA
2003 UN Baghdad HQ Bombing
on and on and on and on their terrorism has gone .........

Qur’an 8:12 “I shall terrorize the infidels.
So wound their bodies and incapacitate them
because they oppose Allah and His Apostle.”

Qur’an 8:57 “If you gain mastery over them in battle,
inflict such a defeat as would terrorize them,
so that they would learn a lesson and be warned.”

22 posted on 09/04/2004 8:16:27 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: jolie560
I remember when I was innocent and naive. Cambodia awakened me from my stupor and I've never been able to escape into innocence again.

In many cases children have died as the result of war but this attack was different it was aimed directly against children . They planned to kill children and they wanted to kill children. In their hatred they wanted to hurt profoundly and knew that losing a child is one of the most profound pains that any parent can have.

Hopefully, they have begun the ending of this evil. Hopefully, the world will awaken to the evil in its midst and acquire the resolve of President Bush to hunt down this evil. But I am no longer naive enough to believe that they will.

They will sit in their lofty places placating the minions with sops and the minions will demand more and they will promise more but they will not take the chance that someone may vote against them. They will not be brave until they are forced to so I won't hold my breath.

23 posted on 09/04/2004 8:18:41 AM PDT by tiki
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To: Diogenesis
Thank you.

If a man believes that actions have consequences he kills the rabid dog out of compassion for it. Not hatred.

24 posted on 09/04/2004 8:20:05 AM PDT by TigersEye (Let's hear about your Senate record already, John!)
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To: freebilly

As many as 600 dead in a town of 30,000 (TWO PERCENT OF THE POPULATION). One family lost their four daughters. Many children lost both eyes. Most of the living kids at the hospital were shot in the back by the scum as they tried to escape after the bombs went off. WHERE ARE THE CONDEMNATIONS OF THIS ATROCITY BY THE MULLAHS AND THE IMAMS AND THE MOSQUES? THEY ARE SILENT IN THE UNITED STATES. CONSIDER WHY!!!!

25 posted on 09/04/2004 8:20:08 AM PDT by laconic
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To: freebilly
"The silence has been deafening..."

We must listen closer:

Russian Muslims Condemn School Hostage-Taking

Russian soldiers walk behind a child near the school seized by heavily armed masked men

By Damir Ahmed, IOL Correspondent

MOSCOW, September 2 ( & News Agencies) – Muslim leaders in Russia have sharply condemned holding hundreds of children hostage by an armed group in the north of the country.

A number of armed men and women, some strapped with explosives, broke into a school in the town of Beslan in North Ossetia on Wednesday, September 1, killing seven people, and herding pupils, parents and teachers into a gym.

The Russian Fatwa Council denounced the abduction, saying it is "a terrorist act that Islam totally refuses and forbids."

"The council condemns the act of taking hostages and the metro blast taken place Tuesday in northern Moscow," Ramil Bilayev, the council's spokesman told over phone.

He went on: "The council's chairman Ravil Gainutdin had described what happened as a terrorist act that Islam totally refuses and forbids and urged for a swift release of the hostages."

"Heinous Crime"

The religious council for North Caucasian Muslims said the hostage taking is "a heinous terrorist crime" that inflicted pain and suffering on families of the hostages.

The council described the kidnappers as "savages", as they had kidnapped "innocent children who have nothing to do with the practices of the incumbent officials".

Reports said the hostage takers want Russian troops to leave Chechnya and the release of Chechen fighters held in Ingushetia.

The World Organization for Islamic Call in Russia also added a voice of denunciation of the kidnappers.

"Taking children and women hostages would not be a solution to the problems, but rather will create bitterness, wrath and derision towards Islam and Muslims in Russia and everywhere," the organization said in a statement.

It called for an immediate unconditional swift release of all hostages.

The kidnappers released 26 of the hostages – mostly women and children – earlier in the day, with many more than 200 others still entrapped inside, after the appeal.

Russia has a Muslim population of 23 million, representing roughly 15 percent of its 145 million populations, according to a 2003 census.


Also, the mufti of Chechnya joined the foray, saying: "The terrorist criminals who have seized the school and children have once again shown their savage face,"

"We, Muslim leaders of Chechnya, resolutely condemn the terrorist acts that have been committed," Akhmed-Haji Shamayev, the mufti of Chechnya, told the Interfax news agency.

Shamayev said the abductors are not Muslims as Islam calls for mercy and doing good for all peoples including those of other faiths.

"They are people without faith, they are no Muslims.

Islam is a great religion, which calls for doing good for people and for nations. Those who know a few things about Muslim religion will know that the words 'Islam' and 'terror' cannot be used together."

Shamayev offered help of the Chechen Muslims to secure the release of the school hostages.

"The Muslims of Chechnya are ready for any help that is needed for the release of the hostages in Beslan," the mufti said.

Still, it was not clear who the latest attackers of the school were.

Chechen separatist leader Aslan Maskhadov has denied that his forces are involved in the siege.

There are Chechens and Ingushis among the kidnappers. They speak good Russian," North Ossetian Interior Minister Kazbek Dzantiyev told reporters said, without elaborating.

The hostage ordeal came one day after at least 10 people were killed and dozens injured, when officials said a female bomber blew herself up outside a busy Moscow subway station.

The explosion caused scenes of carnage outside the Rizhsky station in central Moscow, just a week after 90 people were killed in bomb attacks that brought down two passenger jets and that were blamed on Chechen fighters.

26 posted on 09/04/2004 8:20:11 AM PDT by Luis Gonzalez ( Even Jane Fonda apologized. Will you, John?)
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To: jolie560

Absolutely dead on the mark.

27 posted on 09/04/2004 8:24:58 AM PDT by DOGEY
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To: Luis Gonzalez
I think we can file this one under "Too little, too late" my friend.

Putin is going to strike back with a hammer blow and I for one cannot blame him in the least.


29 posted on 09/04/2004 8:27:01 AM PDT by Lurker ( Rope, tree, liberal. Adult assembly required.)
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To: WineGuy

You want to invade France and Germany?

30 posted on 09/04/2004 8:28:50 AM PDT by TigersEye (Let's hear about your Senate record already, John!)
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To: jolie560
Kill them all, and build a hog feedlot on their graves.


31 posted on 09/04/2004 8:30:20 AM PDT by Servant of the 9 (Screwing the Inscrutable or is it Scruting the Inscrewable?)
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To: freebilly

You see, the condemnations are out there, I Googled and found even more, and worded stronger. What we are failing to do is giving them sufficient air time to encourage even more condemnations.

Then we arm and organize those condemning the terrorists, and set them on one another.

Let them fight one another, and we pick off the remains.

32 posted on 09/04/2004 8:31:11 AM PDT by Luis Gonzalez ( Even Jane Fonda apologized. Will you, John?)
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To: jolie560

Let's get one thing straight:

Islam is NOT a religion.

It's a cult.

A cult of death.

33 posted on 09/04/2004 8:31:55 AM PDT by Pete'sWife (Dirt is for racing... asphalt is for getting there.)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

"Every school in America and every law enforcement agency had better have contingency plans."

You are right about that. Hope these plans are on the drawing board.

34 posted on 09/04/2004 8:32:31 AM PDT by AngieGOP (I never met a woman who became a stripper because she played with Barbie dolls as a kid.)
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To: jolie560

Thanks for a damn great piece by Ralph Peters. The man tells it like it is.

35 posted on 09/04/2004 8:33:47 AM PDT by demkicker
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To: The Sons of Liberty

It should be simple. If any armed people burst into a school, they die immediately. Train and arm at least some school employees. The police will be too late arriving.

36 posted on 09/04/2004 8:37:09 AM PDT by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: Diogenesis

Excellent post. It's time to get very serious about this war against Islamofacist. That term for them is very appropriate.

37 posted on 09/04/2004 8:39:24 AM PDT by drsuzi (I'm not really a doctor, I just play one to my family...)
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To: jolie560
Ralph Peters- I'll have to keep an eye out for more of his writings.
38 posted on 09/04/2004 8:40:13 AM PDT by keats5
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To: jolie560
From the article:

Negotiations are the heroin of Westerners addicted to self-delusion.

I've just found my tagline.

39 posted on 09/04/2004 8:43:20 AM PDT by tarheelswamprat (Negotiations are the heroin of Westerners addicted to self-delusion.)
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To: BroncosFan
The pen name is Owen Parry, BTW I thought Flame of Heaven was a drag.

Prefer Red AR my, shows you what are allies are really like.

40 posted on 09/04/2004 8:44:02 AM PDT by dts32041 (bortaS bIr jablu'DI' reH QaQqu' nay)
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