Posted on 09/04/2004 8:00:04 AM PDT by jolie560
THE mass murder of children revolts the human psyche. Herod sending his henchmen to massacre the infants of Bethlehem haunts the Gospels. Nothing in our time was crueler than what the Germans did to children during the Holocaust. Slaughtering the innocents violates a universal human taboo. Or a nearly universal one. Those Muslims who preach Jihad against the West decided years ago that killing Jewish or Christian children is not only acceptable, but pleasing to their god when done by "martyrs."
It isn't politically correct to say this, of course. We're supposed to pretend that Islam is a "religion of peace." All right, then: It's time for Muslims to stand up for the once-noble, nearly lost traditions of their faith and condemn what Arab and Chechen terrorists and blasphemers did in the Russian town of Beslan.
If Muslim religious leaders around the world will not publicly condemn the taking of children as hostages and their subsequent slaughter if those "men of faith" will not issue a condemnation without reservations or caveats then no one need pretend any longer that all religions are equally sound and moral.
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There are so mmany more that have been written off to "crazy people"
attack on empire state building deck
attack on el al at LAX
attack on van of jewish students in NYC
and these are the "smaller"incidents that get forgotten
"Delenda est Carthago":
Carthage must be utterly destroyed. (A phrase with which Cato the elder would utter after finishing a discourse in the Roman senate. He urged the Roman people to the destruction of Carthage, which he looked on as a dangerous rival to Rome.)
"Delenda est Islam"
All we know today is that where the once mighty city of Carthage stood there is now a desert of salt. Nothing was left standing. Salt was imported to make sure nothing grows out of Carthage again.
We may one day need to revisit the prophetic saying of Cato uttered 2400 years ago as we struggle agaist the tyranny of Islamic terrorism.
Maybe Islam forgot about Carthage!
A fiery retribution is in order for Islamofascists and their collaborators.
You are so correct. Muslim terrorists and their sympathizers are one cut below wild animals.
As much as I would like to believe it, I don't. I'm too cynical after reading much of Qu'ranic literature.
Maybe Islam forgot about Carthage!
We are there today. The level of morality in battle is chosen by the side willing to sink to the lowest level. The killing of innocent children in front of their parents has reached the lowest level, I submit that it is time to let loose the dogs of war and strike this evil until they cry out that Islam is wrong, and they are wrong.
The silence has been deafening....
Not everywhere. I gotta find that post! I THINK it's a muslim group in Seattle gonna party on 9/11 calling for more 9/11's. I'll try to find the post.
Jewish kids, Christian kids, Russian kids, kids and kids and no religion has a right of any kind to kill kids.
In the end, your movement appears to have only loyal and active supporters. Now you are in total control, for who would dare speak out against you? As Hitler said, 10 years before he finally rose to power, "The National Socialist Movement will in the future ruthlessly prevent if necessary by force all meetings or lectures that are likely to distract the minds of our fellow countrymen." In other words, all opposition is evil and we will protect you from it.
Sound familiar?
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/printer-friendly.asp?ARTICLE_ID=24656
....all I an say is, "Time to feed the hogs".
What is the MSM?
Thanks
Does anyone doubt that given the opportunity, this WILL happen in the USA? It is way past time to think about what to do. The answer is to follow President Bush and hopefully, President Putin in eliminating this threat. Put so much fear in these vermin that they will only dream about retribution while they cower in their holes!
The Bible encourages Christians to do lots of things that we don't do; Muslims are no better at following the letter of the Qu'ran than Christians are, what we are doing wrong, is attibuting the mindset of extremists to ALL Muslims.
I understand your feelings, but Diogenesis has done us all a great service over the years by posting these and other pictures, reminding us of the true nature of the situation.
Many Americans have simply brushed 9/11 under the rug and pretend it never happened. It's terrible to see those pictures, but it would be even worse to pretend that nothing much happened. I was a few blocks from ground zero when it happened, and it has been very traumatic for me, too--more than I realized at the time. But we cannot forget.
With respect, you're wrong. We should not have to listen "closer". The condemnations by Muslim leaders should be ringing forth so loudly and so vehemently that we couldn't ignore them even if we wanted to. Those leaders should be hounding the media and demanding a platform from which to denounce this barbarism. These Muslim leaders should be exhorting the faithful Muslims in their mosques to pour forth in public demonstrations and protest marches and midnight vigils and emergency relief fund-raising drives for the victims and their families. They should be loudly issuing fatwah's against the Islamofascist terrorists.
re:You see, the condemnations are out there, I Googled and found even more, and worded stronger. What we are failing to do is giving them sufficient air time to encourage even more condemnations.
Then we arm and organize those condemning the terrorists, and set them on one another.
There are condemnations out there, just as you said, but the key question is whether or not they are sincere, or just pro-forma public relations ploys designed to deflect some of the heat. No matter how "strongly-worded" they are, they're still only words, and words are cheap. Until we see some positive action by the Muslim community they will continue, by default, to inexorably bind themselves inextricably to the terrorist fanatics, and will eventually share their fate.
Sorry but this is BS. "Sharp condemnations" don't cut it anymore. The "grand" Muslims from Mecca on down should issue Fatwahs prohibiting any killing of non-muslims period. Also, instead of issuing condemnations, they should physically intervene. I am sure that "good" muslims know where the bad ones live...who they are..etc. Why don't they physically stop their "bad faithless muslim brothers" from committing mass murder???? Because they don't want to. The good muslims are as guilty as the bad ones.
I agree. However, a few armed employees will not stand much of a chance against suicide bent losers with automatic weapons and suicide belts. As demonstrated in Russia, they move fast and instantly kill whoever gets in their way. I would like to see my children's schools in lockdown every day with posted guards on arrival and departure time. Woe be to the nations of anyone who target US children. GW will need to step aside for the whirlwind of parents - the ME just thinks they have seen violence.
The mass murder of children goes on daily in the US. There have been 40 million babies killed since Roe vs. Wade. The Supremes made it possible. How come we don't see many RATs decrying abortion as murder, while it really is. Where's the outrage?
"Negotiations are the useless heroin of such self-deluded leftists as Kerry and the Democrats."
My thoughts exactly. Deeds you filthy muslims....Deeds. They could stop it tomorrow if they wanted to. Simply by "good" muslims stopping the bad ones
You wrote:
"I no longer use the word terrorist. It is too generic. "
Two words.
Camel...
felchers...
I contend that their terrorism goes back much further. They invaded Spain in what,..800? Didn't they push infidels off the cliffs or something to that effect?
And there's more hidden away in the history of western Europe. I think a complete list is what the world needs to see, because there are those who claim that these terrosist acts are only in retaliation for years of us occupying their country(ies), etc....blah , blah, blah.. More blame US cr@ppola.
In the big picture, the Muslim religion is one of hatred, violence, and control. Has been from the beginning. The beginning, that's where this list needs to start.
You wrote:
"You want to invade France and Germany?"
Recall last week Cheney spoke of redeploying
US troops, removing them from EU. . .
May be something to it </g>
The time is past for condemnation. The only way Muslims can redeem themselves is with massive widespread slaughter of their terrorists. There have to be lynchings of these monsters in the streets of Islamic people around the world. 9/11 ended the time for mere words.
I would say delenda est Mecca Medinaque...
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**crickets chirping**
Actually, it's you who are intellectualizing the issue.
Muslims extremists are not the majority of Islam, any more than any other form of extremist makes up the majority of any religion, or political system.
We are fighting a minority within Islam, don't increase their numbers falsely by intellectualizing the extremist viewpoint.
Thank you.
Frances is right offshore, just ESE of me moving WNW, and it appears to be gathering strength.
The only way to prevent this happening in Western countries is to keep Muslim immigrants out of the West. Does Peters support that oh-so-politically-incorrect view or does he just want to keep writing safe articles telling us mass-murderers of children are icky?
How typical.
There was a time when everyone in FR demanded condemnations from Muslims leaders as proof that they were against terrorism.
Now that we have condemnations, we demand specific wording.
No matter what happens, you will continue to move the bar.
What you are doing is isolating those brave enough to condemn the actions of terrorists while being in the terrorists' back yard by sending the message that what they're doing is not enough, and as such, you consider them the enemy as well.
By isolating them via the trivialization of their actions, you are assisting the terrorists in shutting down dissent.
Nice job.
Maybe they can stone them to death, or even behead them and tape the beheading to cast fear in the hearts of terrorists. They could cut the ears and tongues off women who are believed to be involved with terrorists. Then, they can hack to death the children of the terrorists to teach those extremists a lesson.
You want moderates to behave like extremists in order for you to believe that they're not terrorists.
That's just dumb.
They need to behave in a civilized manner and bring them to justice, executing them as proscribed by secular law.
Ann Coulter was right.
Hunt down their leaders; kill them; and convert the rest to Christianity.
We must work with Putin to go to the home countries of these killers and let lose the Dogs Fo War!
When your government won't deal with monsters, vigilantism IS the civilized approach.
No it isn't.
Lawlessness is not the way to promote lawfulness.
And we would be differnt from Islamicists exactly how?
I heard an interesting story a few years ago from one of two men awaiting trial. There was a community that was being overrun by drug dealers, hookers, and their customers. Shots were being fired into homes day and night. Families had their kids sleep in bathtubs, because there was some protection from bullets. The police would respond to reports of drug deals going down by driving a car through the neighborhood. The community had numerous marches to get the cops to respond. But they would collect the bullets from the walls of the homes and leave. The activity was all centered on one crack house. Everyone knew it, but the local government was 'helpless' to do anything.
Two men watched the house, and when no one was home they took a few gallons of gasoline and burned it to the ground. This time the cops responded. The men were arrested for arson and attempted murder (even though the house was empty).
Their sole defense was that the house needed burning.
If I had been on their jury, there's no way they would have been found guilty. What they did was the opposite of lawlessness.
Remember, the American Revolution was an act of 'lawlessness'.
They broke the law, they went to jail for it. Had you been in the jury and voted to find them "not guilty", you would have been guilty of judicial activism.
The mere fact that one segment or another of the community feels justified in breaking the law, does not excuse lawlessness.
Let's say that the community I live in stands together in opposition to laws against marijuana use, and we decide to openly smoke pot.
Did we break the law?
We absolutely did.
The citizens of that town should have planted themselves en masse in front of City Hall and refused to move until something was done by the authorities; that's what sets us apart from Islamic extremists.
Retribution is not terrorism.
Sometimes the only way to rid a house of termites is to take down the building.
Anyone who sees the photos of these dead children and urges pacifism is a fool.
How long before our government leaders muster up the guts to say that? Pretense is all it is, because Islam was hatched by a bloody murderer and it teaches it's followers to be absolutely ruthless in the suppression of every other religion. The first time I heard Bush say something like "Islam is a religion of peace that has been hijacked by a few terrorists" I couldn't believe my ears. All you need to do to learn the bloody, awful truth about Islam is read the history of the last 14 centuries it has been in existence.
No doubt someone will remind me of the Inquisition and the Crusades, and the slaughter and torture attributable to those events and others. The difference is that in those events, and in every other instance where so-called Christians murdered and tortured in the name of Christianity the perpetrators of those horrors were acting in a manner exactly opposite to the teachings of Jesus Christ and true Christianity.
In contrast, Mohammed not only ordered the slaughter of multiple thousands of innocent people, he taught his followers to do likewise, and more. Authentic Christianity was not spread around the globe by threat of death and violent coercion, authentic Islam was and still is. Islam is nothing but a demonic death cult, pure and simple.
Says it all.
I just heard a local Dim on radio saying how she thought it
was so odd that no GW mention of OBL at convention.
She says it's because it's a sore spot for the GOP. But then
these same Dims will scream bloody murder if (IN SHA' ALLA)
OBL is captured in one month from now. The Dims will claim
we've had him all along,they'll "question the timing",ect,etc. As ususual, they want their cake( have someone else buy it for them) and eat it ,too.
They sound exactly like Yasser Arafat. after another sensless bombing of innocent Jews, Arafat would condem it, and then buy more explosives.
C.A.I.R. supports Terrorism with Money and condems it in public, and they are here in America.
The Muslim Terrorists Laughed as the Russian children passed out from fear and thirst. Laughed.
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