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Russia blasts EU siege statement
Yahoo UK ^ | 9/4/04 | Reuters

Posted on 09/04/2004 10:05:23 AM PDT by TrebleRebel

Russia blasts EU siege statement

MOSCOW (Reuters) - Russia has described as "blasphemous" a request by the European Union for an explanation to the bloody end to a mass hostage seizure at a school by Chechen gunmen.

More than 320 people, almost half of them children were found dead after troops stormed a school in the southern Russian town of Beslan, where the separatists held more than 1,000 hostages for 53 hours.

In a statement in the name of the presidency of the 25-nation EU, Dutch Foreign Minister Bernard Bot said on Friday that all countries should work together to stop such tragedies.

"But we also would like to know from the Russian authorities how this tragedy could have happened," he added.

The Russian Foreign Ministry reacted with outrage on Saturday.

"Mr. Bot's elaborations are an absolute contrast with the wide international support and solidarity with Russia in these tragic days," the ministry statement said.

"Inappropriate statements by the Dutch minister look odious ... and blasphemous," it added. "We expect explanations from the Dutch side."

Interfax news agency later said that the Dutch ambassador had been summoned to the Foreign ministry over Bot's statement.


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Afterwards the EU minister ordered the American ambassador in Holland to report to his office and demanded an explanation why 3,000 people were killed in New York on September 11, 2001. He than demanded to know why Hitler invaded Holland in 1940.
1 posted on 09/04/2004 10:05:23 AM PDT by TrebleRebel
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To: TrebleRebel

Elect sKerry and the EU will be his puppetmaster.


2 posted on 09/04/2004 10:06:41 AM PDT by BurbankErnie
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To: TrebleRebel

OMG


3 posted on 09/04/2004 10:07:03 AM PDT by republicangel
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To: TrebleRebel

'Blasts' is an awful word to use in the headline of this story.


4 posted on 09/04/2004 10:07:17 AM PDT by Happygal (liberalism - a narrow tribal outlook largely founded on class prejudice)
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To: TrebleRebel

"Mr. Bot's elaborations are an absolute contrast with the wide international support and solidarity with Russia in these tragic days," the ministry statement said.

"Inappropriate statements by the Dutch minister look odious ... and blasphemous," it added. "We expect explanations from the Dutch side."


Ouch.


5 posted on 09/04/2004 10:07:19 AM PDT by cripplecreek (The economy won't matter if you're dead.)
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To: TrebleRebel

Talk about big, giant brass ones, huh?


6 posted on 09/04/2004 10:07:36 AM PDT by thegreatbeast (Quid lucrum istic mihi est?)
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To: republicangel

Well, I believe Russia should expell a couple of these morons' ambassadors to sens a real message... as in we are not cowards if you are!


7 posted on 09/04/2004 10:08:07 AM PDT by Pitiricus
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To: TrebleRebel

Are we missing something?


8 posted on 09/04/2004 10:08:08 AM PDT by nuconvert (Everyone has a photographic memory. Some don't have film.)
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To: TrebleRebel
"But we also would like to know from the Russian authorities how this tragedy could have happened," he added.

...As he stumbled back into the hash bar.

9 posted on 09/04/2004 10:10:46 AM PDT by koolaidsmile ("Too weird to live, Too rare to die.")
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To: TrebleRebel

And now I wish Putin would send someone over to kick Bernard Bot's a**. I swear that's what these people need.


11 posted on 09/04/2004 10:11:20 AM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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To: TrebleRebel

We're with you on this one, Putin. Let's work together and kick some Islamofascist ass. Now about your planned sale of reactor equipment to Iran...


12 posted on 09/04/2004 10:11:37 AM PDT by inkling
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To: TrebleRebel
I want to be allied with the brave Russian people, not the cowards of the EU.

Did you see the scores of civilian EMTs, fire fighters and ordinary Ivans rushing the buildings to rescue children and fight the fires, just yards behind the commandos, under direct terrorist machinegun fire?

RUSSIANS ARE NOT COWARDS! GOD BLESS THE RUSSIAN PEOPLE!

13 posted on 09/04/2004 10:11:43 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: TrebleRebel

Photo of Bernard Bot, the idiot:

http://www.unpo.org/news_detail.php?arg=32&par=1004


14 posted on 09/04/2004 10:11:49 AM PDT by i_dont_chat
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To: TrebleRebel
I agree with the Russians.

The EU needs to take their opinion, write it carefully on good paper, place it gently in a large German sausage coated with French pate, and...hmm, better not say that.

Let's just say that european homosexuals would enjoy the experience.

15 posted on 09/04/2004 10:11:55 AM PDT by neutrino (Globalization “is the economic treason that dare not speak its name.” (173))
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To: thegreatbeast
Talk about big, giant brass ones, huh?

Yeah, but they are hollow. I have a feeling Putin's are solid. He's not going to take any guff from the EU. He's not a member; he's not answerable to them, or to anyone else.

16 posted on 09/04/2004 10:12:27 AM PDT by wimpycat (John Kerry has a fevah, and the only prescription is "MORE COWBELL".)
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To: TrebleRebel
Beyond "blasphemous", Vlad.
The EU's leaders are twisted and infected from
their having drunk sputum directly from the lips
of the EU's greatest serial-mass-murderer.


17 posted on 09/04/2004 10:12:51 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: TrebleRebel
"But we also would like to know from the Russian authorities how this tragedy could have happened," he added.

I'm sure they asked Spain the same thing the day after those trains were bombed. </sarcasm>

18 posted on 09/04/2004 10:13:19 AM PDT by michigander (The Constitution only guarantees the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself.)
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To: TrebleRebel

Hope the Russians wait until we pull out of Germany before they come through the pass.
EU don't like us ?
Let em deal with the next invader themselves.


19 posted on 09/04/2004 10:15:57 AM PDT by sawmill trash (We interrupt the regularly scheduled tagline to bring you this special tagline.)
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To: TrebleRebel

Under what authority does the EU make these demands? By 'authority', I mean what action can the EU possibly make to enforce their demands if Russia simply ignores them?


20 posted on 09/04/2004 10:16:31 AM PDT by StoneFury
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To: Travis McGee

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1207293/posts


Russian authorities said the bloody end to the standoff came after explosions apparently set off by the militants — possibly by accident — as emergency workers were entering the school to collect the bodies of slain hostages.

As hostages took their chance to flee, the militants opened fire on them, and security forces — along with town residents who had brought their own weapons — opened covering fire to help the hostages escape. Commandos stormed into the building and secured it, then chased fleeing militants in the town, with shooting lasting for 10 hours.

Fridinsky, the prosecutor, said the hostage-takers had numbered 26 and all had been killed. The bodies of at least six militants lay outside the school on Saturday, surrounded by black metal and plastic weapons parts and bullets. A forensic investigator studied the bodies.



I agree. Very brave indeed.


21 posted on 09/04/2004 10:17:25 AM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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To: TrebleRebel

"Odious" is the perfect word to describe the socialist bureaucrats running the EU. Putin should announce the final rejection of the Kyoto treaty and give free transporation for all Chechen Islamists to the EU country of their choice.


22 posted on 09/04/2004 10:17:49 AM PDT by Faraday
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To: i_dont_chat
EWWWW Minister(Looks like a real brave guy, huh)


23 posted on 09/04/2004 10:20:17 AM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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To: nuconvert
Are we missing something?

Yes, probably this

Lieutenant General Victor Sobolev, whose 58th Army participated in the storm said that it is unlikely that any of the militants escaped - "The majority of them have been destroyed," he said. The army shelled the terrorists in their hideout from tank guns.

http://www.mosnews.com/news/2004/09/03/terrorists2.shtml

The hideout included terrorists and hostages...
24 posted on 09/04/2004 10:21:01 AM PDT by AdmSmith
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To: Happygal
'Blasts' is an awful word to use in the headline of this story.

Good grief! That's your response and all you have to say after reading this report? I'm sure most Russians and decent people around the world ache for what THE TERRORISTS DID and would like to "blast" them and anyone else who tries to deflect the blame for this vile attack. Bot deserves the harshest of criticism and you need to get deprogrammed for your inappropriate political correctness.
25 posted on 09/04/2004 10:21:09 AM PDT by demkicker
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To: TrebleRebel

Hey Dutch Boy, how did Srebrenica happen? weren't you guys in charge?


26 posted on 09/04/2004 10:21:11 AM PDT by nkycincinnatikid
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To: TrebleRebel

"But we also would like to know from the Russian authorities how this tragedy could have happened".

It's called Islamic Terrorism, Mr. EU Minister.


27 posted on 09/04/2004 10:23:26 AM PDT by ampat
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To: TrebleRebel

This tragedy will happen within the EU someday soon and we'll watch the Euro-peons cave like a house of cards.


28 posted on 09/04/2004 10:23:32 AM PDT by Andy from Beaverton (I only vote Republican to stop the Democrats)
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To: TrebleRebel
Mr Bot must have gotten the memo from the President of Chechnya that called for an international inquiry into who really did it.

Gee, I dunno...suicide bombers talking about Allah...killing kids...demanding Chechen independence. Who could it be?

29 posted on 09/04/2004 10:24:36 AM PDT by Sender (I didn't leave cookays. I left him cheeese.)
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To: TrebleRebel
I don't know how the EU is actually organized. Are any of the people actually elected or are they appointed? How is are the EU bureaucrats held accountable.
30 posted on 09/04/2004 10:25:32 AM PDT by WHBates
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To: Lijahsbubbe

I want small-town Russians as allies, if I'm in a fight.


31 posted on 09/04/2004 10:26:18 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: TrebleRebel
"But we also would like to know from the Russian authorities how this tragedy could have happened," Dutch Foreign Minister Bernard Bot...

..."If a child utters even a sound, we'll kill another one"-Chechyan Muslim terrorist at Beslan School

..."Wherever you have Islam, you will have war"-M.Sharon

..."Islam is clear: Muslims in occupied lands have the right to attack their invaders"-Sayful Islam

...The distinction is only between Muslims and unbelievers. An unbeliever has no value"-Omar Muhammad

..."We have showed weakness in the face of danger and the weak get beaten up"-Vladimir Putin

..."What will terror's apologists say when the killers come for their own children?"-Ralph Peters

32 posted on 09/04/2004 10:28:15 AM PDT by Gritty ("When great matters are at stake,count on Liberals to have pointless,womanly complaints-Ann Coulter)
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To: michigander
...this tragedy...

I glanced at the [full] statement last night before bed, and thought it was rather curious wording.

But now, focusing on the word "tragedy", I'm beginning to wonder what the tragedy the Europeans are refering -
the deaths of the innocents, or the deaths of the murdering, sadistic Islamics?

33 posted on 09/04/2004 10:31:31 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: TrebleRebel

They provided cover fire to protect fleeing women and children...the b"§7@rds!


34 posted on 09/04/2004 10:32:39 AM PDT by Constantine XIII
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To: TrebleRebel
Majority Drools
35 posted on 09/04/2004 10:32:45 AM PDT by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com/)
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To: demkicker
inappropriate political correctness

It was out of consideration for the families of those who have lost children in this terrorist act, that I think the word is inappropriate in the headline.

36 posted on 09/04/2004 10:32:58 AM PDT by Happygal (liberalism - a narrow tribal outlook largely founded on class prejudice)
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To: TrebleRebel
Sounds like the EU doesn't want to make the Islamofascist terrorists mad, they might bring their terror campaign closer to home.
37 posted on 09/04/2004 10:35:44 AM PDT by Ciexyz ("FR, best viewed with a budgie on hand")
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To: TrebleRebel

At this point I think it would be better if the US resigned from NATO and joined the old Warsaw Pact, moved our headquaters and bases to Poland and started pointing our missles in the opposite direction.


38 posted on 09/04/2004 10:36:06 AM PDT by P-Marlowe
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To: Gritty
What will terror's apologists say when the killers come for their own children?"

If DU's response to 9-11 was any indication, they will show solidarity and patriotism for approximately 1 week, then revert to their usual partisan bickering, laying the blame squarely at the feet of the most convienient scapegoat (usually America/Republicans, but never the perpetrators). Accusations will fly, resolutions will be passed, compassionate outreaches to the enemy will be made, but nothing will be resolved.

39 posted on 09/04/2004 10:38:39 AM PDT by StoneFury
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To: Lijahsbubbe

CSPAN1 was running the Russian tv broadcast (with translation) last night.


40 posted on 09/04/2004 10:39:13 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: Calvin Locke
I saw it and thought that it was interesting.
41 posted on 09/04/2004 10:42:35 AM PDT by WHBates
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To: TrebleRebel
The Russian Foreign Ministry reacted with outrage on Saturday

Rightly so. Probably the vast majority of Americans are now with the Russians in this war. Russians should know this.

42 posted on 09/04/2004 10:44:16 AM PDT by RightWhale (Withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty and establish property rights)
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To: TrebleRebel
Bernard Bot, the poster boy for mental illness:


43 posted on 09/04/2004 10:45:48 AM PDT by JoJo Gunn (Help control the Leftist population - have them spayed or neutered.©)
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To: P-Marlowe

The EU and their socialist supporters are worth little more that our contempt. The entire world, except for these EU clowns, mourn the loss of life. Indeed, we are all Russian today.


44 posted on 09/04/2004 10:46:16 AM PDT by Owl558 (Pardon my spelling)
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To: TrebleRebel

"In a statement in the name of the presidency of the 25-nation EU, Dutch Foreign Minister Bernard Bot said on Friday that all countries should work together to stop such tragedies."

Maybe he's better get it through his head that this is a war and there are no corners of the earth immune.

Placating the Islamofascists merely gives them a boost.

I fully expect to see an attack in the US now, since President Bush's numbers are way up. I think they were waiting to see how this played out.


45 posted on 09/04/2004 10:46:27 AM PDT by OpusatFR ( Putin is not going to throw spitballs at the terrorists. But John Kerry would...)
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To: Happygal
It was out of consideration for the families of those who have lost children in this terrorist act, that I think the word is inappropriate in the headline.

That's odd. I don't think for one minute the families of those who have lost children in this terrorist act would object to this particular headline. Besides, I'm sure they are too grief stricken to be offended.
46 posted on 09/04/2004 10:48:31 AM PDT by demkicker
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To: michigander
I'm sure they asked Spain the same thing the day after those trains were bombed.

They were prepared to do that, but wanted to see if Spain would do the right thing and surrender to the terrorists first.

47 posted on 09/04/2004 10:49:49 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: nuconvert

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1206857/posts

Probably this story.


48 posted on 09/04/2004 10:53:54 AM PDT by bad company ( (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing --Edmund Burke))
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To: All

A charity for the victims:

http://www.moscowhelp.org

THE FUND'S GOAL IS TO HELP THE CHILDREN AFFECTED BY THE TERROR ACT IN BESLAN

The terror act in Beslan is RUSSIA'S SEPTEMBER 11th.

It is clear is that this is the worst terror-related human catastrophe in the history of Russia. As of now, media reports indicate at least 200 victims who already died as a direct result of this terrorist act. Over 700 victims, mostly children, have been taken to local hospitals, a large number of them with very serious injuries.

On September 11, 2001, Russian people and the whole world stood by the people of the United States, Canada, and all other countries whose citizens became victims of that unprecedented terrorist attack.

The Beslan hostage crisis is an example of the same type of terrorism that has perpetrated the September 11 attack. In terms of the number of people involved and the worldwide attention and solidarity, the Beslan siege can in many ways be compared to the major attacks against the US and many other countries.

The Foundation was originally established in 2002 to raise personal and corporate charitable donations to help the families of the Nord-Ost Theater Siege terror victims. That project was successfully completed with all donations fully distributed.

The Foundation is a US public charity and is managed by a group of activists in full accordance with applicable US charity laws.

All personal donations will be used solely to help the children who were injured in Beslan or whose parents died as a result of this terror act.


49 posted on 09/04/2004 11:06:47 AM PDT by No_Outcome_But_Victory (Reagan preferred to shoot the bear... the verdict of history will be simple: nice aim.)
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To: bad company

Thanks. That helps a little.


50 posted on 09/04/2004 11:14:28 AM PDT by nuconvert (Everyone has a photographic memory. Some don't have film.)
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