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RUSSIA: Europeans Blame Russia for School Massacre
strategypage.com ^ | September 4, 2004 | Q & D Headlines

Posted on 09/04/2004 1:36:28 PM PDT by Destro

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To: Travis McGee
Send all the Chechens to France and Holland. Problem solved.

They are made for each other.

51 posted on 09/04/2004 5:23:09 PM PDT by A. Pole (Madeleine Albright:"We are the indispensable nation. We stand tall. We see further into the future.")
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To: aimhigh
In a contrary sense, the Europeans are correct: Russia needs to get better and smarter about killing terrorists. The Beslan atrocity is a tragic humiliation to the police and military "power ministries", exposing fundamental weakness due to corruption and organizational decay. Beslan is also a blowback from Russia's strategy of support for gangster regimes and groups in the region as a way to project power. Putin's popularity is now at risk.
52 posted on 09/04/2004 5:29:21 PM PDT by Rockingham
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To: Born to Conserve

"At the rate the muslims, and Germany, and France, and the UN, and Kerry are working, The US and Russia will soon be very close allies."

Agreed. If you add Britain, which is reasonable to do as long as Blair can hold on to the leadership of his party, it would be just like the old days.


53 posted on 09/04/2004 5:36:07 PM PDT by We Happy Few ("we band of brothers; for he to-day that sheds his blood with me shall be my brother;")
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To: aimhigh

garbage theology.


54 posted on 09/04/2004 6:51:05 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Destro
garbage theology.

Funny how garbage theology keeps coming to pass, again, and again, and again....

55 posted on 09/04/2004 7:22:08 PM PDT by aimhigh
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To: aimhigh

It did not seem to have bothered the Romans. Their empire lasted hundreds of years after the sack of the temple and the Eastern half where the ctual temple was lasted 1,000 years more. The English kicked out all their Jews in the middle ages and they only grew in power. Nixon helped Israel in its time of need - God seems not to have helped him over that Watergate thing. Garbage theology.


56 posted on 09/04/2004 7:54:07 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Destro

It's ridiculous. The Russian government had no other choice. There was no way all the hostages were coming out unscathed. As bad as it was it could have been even worse.


57 posted on 09/04/2004 8:53:12 PM PDT by TOUGH STOUGH (Go George go!)
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To: dljordan
I couldn't agree with you more!

Germany and France will secede from the E.U. and become part of the Middle East.

The faster we can get out Troops out of Germany, I say the better.

Beer, bratwurst, sauerkraut and the polka will be history soon for Germany, and Herr Schroeder may even be fitted for a turban by the Muslims or a noose by the conservative party in German.

It's not a matter of if, it's a matter of when.

And one last thing, IMHO, we are going to see a similar school incident in France and the only ones left out of school will be those wearing headscarves.
58 posted on 09/04/2004 9:13:35 PM PDT by not2worry
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To: Destro

Not surprising. The BBC is neither objective nor subtle.


59 posted on 09/04/2004 9:25:12 PM PDT by dr_who_2
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To: theFIRMbss
"We and the Russians should pick an Arab country use our cleanest nukes and turn it to glass. Arabs are killing children, and we're fighting "fair."

Nuke children eh?

60 posted on 09/04/2004 9:44:06 PM PDT by Windsong (FighterPilot)
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To: Destro
I looked at your link.

Islam?

Somehow it always comes back to that.

61 posted on 09/04/2004 9:48:44 PM PDT by Windsong (FighterPilot)
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To: Windsong
>">Nuke children eh?

Oh gee, war sucks, eh?
Yep. And if it's our kids or
theirs, then I choose theirs . . .

62 posted on 09/05/2004 5:18:19 AM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: Destro
It did not seem to have bothered the Romans. Their empire lasted hundreds of years after the sack of the temple and the Eastern half where the ctual temple was lasted 1,000 years more. The English kicked out all their Jews in the middle ages and they only grew in power. Nixon helped Israel in its time of need - God seems not to have helped him over that Watergate thing. Garbage theology.

Rome burned Jerusalem, and Rome was burned down as a result.
England kicked out the Jews and reaped the Black Death.
Nixon - helping the Jews isn't a ticket out of jail for crooks.

63 posted on 09/05/2004 4:11:02 PM PDT by aimhigh
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To: aimhigh
Rome burned Jerusalem, and Rome was burned down as a result.- fires happened all the time in big cities - and only a small section burned - made more room for more classical buildings.

England kicked out the Jews and reaped the Black Death - so did India and China.

Garbage primitive theology.

64 posted on 09/05/2004 7:44:12 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Destro
Garbage primitive theology.

It probably really upsets you to see Israel back in existance, after 2000 years, fulfilling many primitive prophecies.

65 posted on 09/05/2004 7:55:11 PM PDT by aimhigh
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To: aimhigh

I am a supporter of Israel. I just find your theologic views primitive and unworthy of a modern person.


66 posted on 09/05/2004 8:01:09 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Unknowing

Actually, the Turkish mafia in Germany has been overwhelmed in recent years, by several different Russian groups and the Chechen group. Even the German police are left at a loss to explain how this occurred and how to stop it.

As for the EU position. It is absolute knowledge as to what the Russian did when they rolled into the Chechen homeland 6-7 years ago. The Russians met heavy resistence and fed literally thousands of dead troops into the episode. They destroyed the capital of the region...and killed thousands upons thousands of residents (didn't matter if they were holding weapons or not). If the region was loaded with oil...I'd understand...but it wasn't. And so what does Russia get today by full control over the Chechen homeland...nothing really. Most folks who lived there and were neutral...have simply left. Its a wasteland. No business can exist. Except for kidnapping and drug sales...they can't make any major income in the region. Growing crops is about the only way to ensure your yearly survival. The EU is correct that the Russians haven't thought out the long term implications of the situation. And if anyone thinks this school assault will be the last...guess again. I would be willing to wager that sometime before Xmas...another school will be hit. You simply can't protect everyone...all the time. Its rare that the EU is right...but on this case....they have a point. What exactly does Russia have in store for the Chechen homeland? Find one single positive policy over the issue.


68 posted on 09/21/2004 3:54:00 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: pepsionice

From the Russian point of view, the trans-Caucasus region is of prime importance due to the perceived necessity of moving petroleum from the Caspian through a pipeline which has not yet been constructed. Oil cannot be shipped out through the Straights of the Bosporous, due to Turkey's insistence. Therefore, although the region is not oil-rich, it remains strategically important for Moscow.

The Chechens have demonstrated a tremendous resistance to the Kremlin's pipeline plans, and with the criminal culture within Chechnia carried abroad in their expatriates, it seems that the positive policy for Putin is to spend Chechnya, to waste it, for the greater good of the Russian state. While Yeltsin has warned Putin against this policy direction, the wind is blowing, and carrying everyone.


69 posted on 09/22/2004 2:54:51 AM PDT by Unknowing (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country.)
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