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Diagnostic criteria for Narcissistic Personality Disorder (Fits Kerry PERFECTLY)
Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders ^ | 2004 (revised) | American Psychiartric Association

Posted on 09/04/2004 8:09:52 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember

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To: Chode

Kerry is an eloquent, superficially seductive madman. Very dangerous.


41 posted on 09/04/2004 10:40:53 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember (Free Republic is 21st Century Samizdat)
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To: Wild Irish Rogue
John Kerry is one sick dude and I am mad as hell that the Democrats think so little of our country and our national security-that they would have this sicko at the top of the ticket.

Best line of this post!

42 posted on 09/04/2004 10:41:51 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember (Free Republic is 21st Century Samizdat)
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To: drhogan

Many NYers are mind numbed robots who follow what their liberal media masters tell them what to think.


43 posted on 09/04/2004 10:43:17 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember (Free Republic is 21st Century Samizdat)
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To: FormerACLUmember

I think I heard something once about Kerry always having to watch in a mirror while he was intimate with someone.......is that true? I don't remember where I heard it but I was apalled all the same. He is sooooooo creepy.


44 posted on 09/04/2004 10:51:03 PM PDT by savagesusie
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To: FormerACLUmember

Thanks much. Lots of FReeper help. Email it to your friends.


45 posted on 09/04/2004 11:23:02 PM PDT by christie (http://www.hillaryforpresident-2008.com -- NOT!)
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To: drhogan

Could you recommend a couple of links for further study, Doc? Reading between the lines, one presumes that the narcissist himself is not commonly seen in therapy. "There's nothing wrong with me... it's these people around me!"

I know a couple of individuals I suspect of NPD. They are both quite high-functioning on several levels, and have higher than average IQ -- quite a bit higher, in fact. I wonder if this may feed their disorder, or at least be positively correlated with it (assuming that anyone has done a statistical study of these rare birds)?

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F


46 posted on 09/04/2004 11:24:55 PM PDT by Criminal Number 18F
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To: FormerACLUmember
"Kerry meets ALL the criteria."

So does John McCain.

47 posted on 09/04/2004 11:25:11 PM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: Jewels1091
I think clintoon fits this bill too!

i don't see Clinton fitting the criteria to a "t," maybe two of three, but not all... however, the one who comes to mind is Al Gore... he fits perfectly (as does Kerry)...

48 posted on 09/04/2004 11:41:35 PM PDT by latina4dubya
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To: F16Fighter

so does Al Gore...


49 posted on 09/04/2004 11:45:34 PM PDT by latina4dubya
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To: latina4dubya

And let's not forget Hillary. She's right up there at the top of my list.


50 posted on 09/04/2004 11:51:36 PM PDT by LibSnubber
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To: Carry_Okie
Given that our entire economy runs on such dreamers, it's hard to call it a "disorder" (unless one is getting paid by the hour to cure the incurable).

It's evidently a matter of degree, and the point where it becomes a "disorder" is not clearly defined. But the DSM says of Personality Disorders: "Everyone has a personality with character traits such as stinginess, generosity, arrogance and independence. But when these traits are rigid and self-defeating, they may interfere with functioning and even lead to psychiatric symptoms. Personality traits are formed by early adulthood, persist throughout life and affect every aspect of day to day behavior. Individuals with personality disorders often blame others for their problems."

That link also includes more diagnostic criteria for personality disorders in general, and points out that one can have a personality disorder without it falling neatly into one of the diagnostic pigeonholes.

I have to point out, the DSM also says that we muggles shouldn't be playing with this powerful magic: you need the training of Hogwarts School of Psychiatry to diagnose (and fail to cure) these people. (In my personal experience, which is primarily social, psychiatric professionals tend to be about a half bubble off plumb themselves. Maybe that's why the field attracted them).

Here's another link on NPD:

http://samvak.tripod.com/npdglance.html

Excerpt: "The prognosis for an adult narcissist is poor, though his adaptation to life and to others can improve with treatment. Medication is applied to side-effects and behaviours (such as mood or affect disorders and obsession-compulsion) – usually with some success."

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F

51 posted on 09/05/2004 12:04:37 AM PDT by Criminal Number 18F
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To: Wild Irish Rogue

You can't nominate someone who thinks killing millions of babies is consistent with being a Catholic, and expect him to be anything other than mentally ill.


52 posted on 09/05/2004 12:12:06 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: FormerACLUmember

If Karl Rove is smart, he will use this diagnosis as the means to fashion a strategy for the debates. In other words, what behavior could Bush display or what hot button words could Bush used that might trigger Kerry's predisposition of resentment toward someone who appears to be questioning their entitlement or superiority. This might provoke Kerry into rash comments or obvious displays of anger that could hurt his standing with viewers.


53 posted on 09/05/2004 4:49:54 AM PDT by finnigan2
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To: FormerACLUmember

An example of Kerry's Narcissistic Personality Disorder: Washington Post columnist David Broder (in an Aug. 28, 2004 column, washington post.com, at p. 17) quotes Kerry as saying "I fought in Vietnam and I also fought against the Vietnam War." Broder observed that Kerry apparantly did not recognize that "some would see far too much political calculation in such a bifurcated record." Now compare Broder's observation to two incidents Kerry claims to have experienced (neither of which probably ever happened). First, his 1968 Christmas Eve in Cambodia, which resulted in his "seared-in me" memory that, by now we are all familiar with. Second, a less known Cambodian "adventure": his secret CIA mission. (See, Laura Blumenfeld's article "Hunter, Dreamer, Realist", washingtonpost.com, June 1, 2003, at p. A01; also on the Kerry/Edwards web site at www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/news/news_2003_0601.html.) Kerry cavalierly described this mission. To emphasize his participation, Kerry put on a camouflage hat he kept in a "secret compartment" in his attache case. He called it his "good luck hat" and said it was "given to me by a CIA guy as we went in for a secret mission in Cambodia."

Note that these two "adventures" produceed opposite reactions in Kerry. The first is a completely negative one that supposedly changed his life and resulted in, among other things, his very vocal protesting of the Vietnam War. The second is a totally positive reaction, with souvenir and all, that is quite macho in import, presumably to show his dash and valorr.

In the context of Kerry's statement to David Broder, these opposing "recollections" become clear. They tell us a great deal about the psyche and character of John kerry, the man who would be President and Commander-in-Chief, and who may well suffer from Narcissistic Personality Disorder. Together, they show not only how calculating, and even pethological, is Kerry's need to self-promote; but, more importantly, they provide graphic, first-person evidence of how willfully Kerry has manipulated "his Cambodian adventures" to advance his political ambitions.


54 posted on 09/05/2004 5:25:22 AM PDT by Pharlap
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To: FormerACLUmember
One thing I seldom see mentioned--Kerry's laziness. This guy expects things to be handed to him. He campaigns half-heartedly. Remember how energetically Clinton campaigned?

Looks to me as if once he gets in office and collects his pretty job title, it's off to play with the toys TerAYza bought him...

55 posted on 09/05/2004 7:14:46 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: sistergoldenhair

Sound like anyone you know?


56 posted on 09/05/2004 7:17:28 AM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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