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Top Saddam regime fugitive al-Douri arrested
MSNBC ^ | 09/05/04 | MSNBC

Posted on 09/05/2004 5:20:27 AM PDT by Royal Guardsman

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To: Thermalseeker
Kind of resembles G. Gordon Liddy, doesn't he?

Yeah. But not even as pretty (shudder).

101 posted on 09/05/2004 7:03:12 AM PDT by atomicpossum (If there are two Americas, John Edwards isn't qualified to lead either of them.©)
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To: AmericaUnited

I admit to thinking you were trolling...I learned early on my sarcasm had to have a tag !


102 posted on 09/05/2004 7:04:30 AM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry has been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security)
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To: Lee'sGhost
More like "the poster has no brain."

Which poster?

103 posted on 09/05/2004 7:04:47 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: Admin Moderator
Maybe a class in "Advanced Troll Detection and Discernment" would be good for some of the these amateur newbie, zot deputies. :)
104 posted on 09/05/2004 7:08:01 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: AmericaUnited
IT'S A JOKE PEOPLE! A JOKE!

I thought the humor in my comment was obvious. :)

105 posted on 09/05/2004 7:08:12 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: AmericaUnited
#6...Rove's wife will be glad that he's not living in their basement anymore... Now she's just waiting for Bin-Laden to get out of the house. Must wait till October...

:)

106 posted on 09/05/2004 7:10:33 AM PDT by kassie ("It's the soldier who allows freedom of speech, not the reporter..")
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To: AmericaUnited
("Why matter of fact, I am a troll")

See! Even AmericaUnited figured it out. Why can't you be more like him?

107 posted on 09/05/2004 7:15:53 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Puppage

lol


108 posted on 09/05/2004 7:16:17 AM PDT by martin_fierro (_____oooo_( ° ¿ ° )_oooo_____)
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To: Royal Guardsman

So, what's the deal? This was a rumor going around yesterday too.
Is this for real?


109 posted on 09/05/2004 7:21:11 AM PDT by nuconvert (Everyone has a photographic memory. Some don't have film.)
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To: AmericaUnited

I don't speak to trolls ;)


110 posted on 09/05/2004 7:28:55 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: AmericaUnited
I'm suspicious of the timing in this.
111 posted on 09/05/2004 7:36:17 AM PDT by demlosers
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To: Thermalseeker
Kind of resembles G. Gordon Liddy, doesn't he?

Careful there, Thermalseeker. G. Gordon can't possess firearms but I understand Mrs. Liddy is heavily and legally armed...heh, heh, heh..."that's a joke, son!"
112 posted on 09/05/2004 7:40:31 AM PDT by hummingbird ("If it wasn't for the insomnia, I could have gotten some sleep!")
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To: SubMareener; RobFromGa; MEG33; FL_engineer; Royal Guardsman; Severa; AmericaUnited; McGavin999; ...
MSNBC now reporting that:

Izzat Ibrahim al-Douri is NOT in custody

per U.S.

113 posted on 09/05/2004 7:40:57 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: AmericaUnited
"Now she's just waiting for Bin-Laden to get out of the house. Must wait till October..."

LOL! Must be tough not to be able to have Virginia Ham in the house.

114 posted on 09/05/2004 7:41:03 AM PDT by mass55th ( “Where they have burned books, they will end in burning human beings.”)
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To: TexKat

RATS


115 posted on 09/05/2004 7:42:07 AM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry has been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security)
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To: RobFromGa

Oh look! He's got one of Kerry's Purple Heart bandaids on his thumb!

116 posted on 09/05/2004 7:42:09 AM PDT by mass55th ( “Where they have burned books, they will end in burning human beings.”)
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To: mass55th

Texkat says it isn't true...


117 posted on 09/05/2004 7:42:53 AM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry has been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security)
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To: TexKat

He was in custody before he wasn't in custody, it's seared, seared, in my memory...


118 posted on 09/05/2004 7:46:10 AM PDT by csvset
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To: jwpjr
"Speaking as one from Florida, and in Florida, I have had my fill of reporters standing out in the wind and rain talking about the wind and rain"

I had to turn Fox News off. I was afraid one of those reporters was going to get hit in the head with flying debis, have a tree fall on them, or get electrocuted from fallen power lines.

119 posted on 09/05/2004 7:46:11 AM PDT by mass55th ( “Where they have burned books, they will end in burning human beings.”)
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To: TexKat

What??


120 posted on 09/05/2004 7:46:28 AM PDT by demlosers
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To: sgtbono2002
"zzat Al Douri ? I dunno Izzit?"

Itz Ignatz Al Douri

121 posted on 09/05/2004 7:47:03 AM PDT by mass55th ( “Where they have burned books, they will end in burning human beings.”)
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To: TN4Liberty

Well what are they supposed to do? All their employees are standing out in the friggin storm trying to be Dan Rather. I hate to say this but it will be a relief when one of them gets killed or seriesly injured so the other ones will knock it the heck off.

And forgive me but I've been dying to say... "I question the timing."

Also... was he generally ravaging the countryside in a manner reminiscent of Jenjhiss Khan?


122 posted on 09/05/2004 7:51:10 AM PDT by johnb838 (Islamists: monsters who are fed by the blood of children)
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To: MEG33
If this scum is not in custody there will be numerous print media outlets retracting their stories.

The blond MSNBC reporter that is on now reported that al-Douri is not in custody and then reiterated the Not.

This is sort of like the 2000 election reporting.

123 posted on 09/05/2004 7:53:23 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: AmericaUnited

SNIPE HUNT!!!


124 posted on 09/05/2004 7:53:37 AM PDT by MARTIAL MONK
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To: MEG33
"Texkat says it isn't true..."

So you mean MSNBC pulled a "Kerry?"

125 posted on 09/05/2004 7:54:43 AM PDT by mass55th ( “Where they have burned books, they will end in burning human beings.”)
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To: steveegg

Weather Channel -- I didn't know they played the game. I can imagine the meeting when the exec types announced "from now on we're going out in the storms. I mean... YOU'RE going out in the storms."

As far as Heraldo, I'm reminded of something Elaine said to Jerry one time "Every time I think you couldn't get any more shallow you let another three inches out of the pool."

My TV has died so I'm being spared this crap.


126 posted on 09/05/2004 7:55:31 AM PDT by johnb838 (Islamists: monsters who are fed by the blood of children)
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To: mass55th

Actually, it borders on recklessness as far as I'm concerned. It's seldom effective to preach against something while practicing the something. People see them out there in their minimal protective clothing and figure it must not really be all that dangerous.


127 posted on 09/05/2004 7:55:43 AM PDT by jwpjr
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To: mass55th

Ignatz Mouse

128 posted on 09/05/2004 7:56:09 AM PDT by csvset
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To: TexKat
"This is sort of like the 2000 election reporting. "

Maybe Al Douri recinded his concession like Gore.

129 posted on 09/05/2004 7:56:11 AM PDT by mass55th ( “Where they have burned books, they will end in burning human beings.”)
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To: SubMareener

Curious about your screen name. Any kin to the Snoopy and the Red Baron?


130 posted on 09/05/2004 7:56:47 AM PDT by jwpjr
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To: Shqipo

Let's not forget the Russian Babies. I certainly won't.


131 posted on 09/05/2004 7:57:55 AM PDT by johnb838 (Islamists: monsters who are fed by the blood of children)
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To: jwpjr

Oops! Sorry about the screen name question, you were responding to Royal Guardsman. Excuse the ring.


132 posted on 09/05/2004 7:58:05 AM PDT by jwpjr
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To: TexKat

New thread on CNN report of capture..I am spreading your word of denial as I was spreading the news on the Sunday Morning Talk Show thread that he was captured.

Hope it is TRUE and he IS caught! We have had wrong reports both ways.


133 posted on 09/05/2004 7:58:53 AM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry has been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security)
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To: csvset

Cute! I expect a brick to come flying right about now!


134 posted on 09/05/2004 7:58:58 AM PDT by mass55th ( “Where they have burned books, they will end in burning human beings.”)
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To: Allegra

I just want to see a gallon milk jug full of botox or anthrax. That would be a stockpile, wouldn't it?


135 posted on 09/05/2004 8:04:13 AM PDT by johnb838 (Islamists: monsters who are fed by the blood of children)
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To: MEG33

But what good is sarcasm if you have to tell people it's sarcasm? The rule ought to be you have to fess up in 10 posts or 20 or 30 or something like that.


136 posted on 09/05/2004 8:05:59 AM PDT by johnb838 (Islamists: monsters who are fed by the blood of children)
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To: Royal Guardsman
So we captured the #2 bastard - so what?

It's raining in Floriduh! Let's move on; we need to see bent sheet metal and wet TV people 24/7. Yes, even those of us 3,000 miles away who don't know anybody east of Nevada - that's all we want to see.

137 posted on 09/05/2004 8:07:14 AM PDT by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: Royal Guardsman

One more down and many to go. I hope al-Zarqawi is next and I hope they get some good information from him.


138 posted on 09/05/2004 8:15:53 AM PDT by tiki
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To: MEG33

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&e=3&u=/ap/20040905/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq


139 posted on 09/05/2004 8:18:17 AM PDT by snooker (Kerry BETRAYED our troops when he returned from Viet Nam, don't let him do it again.)
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To: Royal Guardsman; TexKat; MEG33; McGavin999; Dog


Today: September 05, 2004 at 8:13:00 PDT

Former Saddam Deputy Arrested in Iraq

By DANICA KIRKA
ASSOCIATED PRESS

BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) -

Iraqi forces on Sunday captured Izzat Ibrahim al-Douri, the most wanted fugitive from Saddam Hussein's ousted dictatorship, Iraq's top information official said. Iraqi officials were conducting DNA tests to confirm the prisoner's identity.

U.S. military officials, speaking on condition of anonymity, said al-Douri - who was Saddam's right-hand man before the regime cell - was not in U.S. custody and that they were waiting to hear more from the Iraqis.

U.S. Maj. Neal O'Brien of the Tikrit-based 1st Infantry Division said he could not confirm al-Douri was captured. A U.S. Embassy spokesman in Baghdad also said he had no information about an arrest.

Past reports of al-Douri's arrest have proven false. But several top Iraqi officials said his capture was all but confirmed in a raid on a clinic in the region of Adwar, al-Douri's hometown, in the region of Tikrit, where Saddam and many of his top officials were from. Saddam was captured Dec. 13 hiding in a safe-house near Adwar.

"We are sure he is Izzat Ibrahim," information official Ibrahim Janabi said. "He was arrested in a clinic in Makhoul near Tikrit and Adwar (his hometown in northern Iraq) and 60 percent of the DNA test has finished."

Iraqi Minister of State Qassim Dawoud confirmed al-Douri's arrest. At a press conference in Kuwait, Qassim said some 150 others who were defending him were also arrested.

Al-Douri, who had a U.S. bounty of $10 million on his head, was the highest-ranking member of Saddam's government who was still at large. Once the vice chairman of the Baath Party's Revolutionary Command Council, he was a longtime confidant of Saddam.

He is No. 6 on the U.S. military's list of 55 most wanted figures from Saddam's regime - the king of clubs in the deck of cards. With the capture of Saddam and others and the slaying of Saddam's son, al-Douri had become the Pentagon's most wanted man in Iraq. Besides al-Douri, forty-four of the figures on the list have been captured or killed.

U.S. officials have said he plays a role in organizing the 16-month insurgency campaign against U.S. forces and their Iraqi allies, but it was not immediately known how much of an effect his arrest would have.

Al-Douri was captured when troops set a trap for him at the clinic, where he was receiving medical treatment, an Iraqi Defense Ministry spokesman, Saleh Sarhan, said. Al-Douri is believed to be suffering from leukemia.

"We had received information that he was admitted to a hospital near Tikrit, or let us say a clinic to have blood transfusion," Sarhan told the U.S.-funded, Arabic-language television station Alhurra.

"As soon as we received this information, the forces were able to plan a major operation to arrest him," he said.

Ahmed Hadi, a spokesman for the minister of state for provincial affairs, said the approximately 150 gunmen with al-Douri clashed with the Iraqi forces. He did not say if there were any casualties. Hadi said the raid was carried out by Iraqi National Guard suppported by U.S. troops, helicopters and tanks.

U.S. and Iraqi forces have been trying for months to close in on al-Douri.

Late last year, his wife and daughter were detained. During several house raids on Jan. 14 in the northern city of Samarra, American forces arrested four of al-Douri's nephews who were suspected of helping move al-Douri to different locations to avoid capture.

Al-Douri was responsible for the now-disbanded Iraqi army's northern sector, which includes Kirkuk, Mosul and Tikrit, during the U.S.-led invasion in March 2003.

Elsewhere, a militant group blamed for a mass abduction in Iraq appealed Sunday to an influential Sunni Muslim clerical group to issue a fatwa, or religious ruling, on whether kidnapping is justified in the struggle to oust foreigners from the country.

In a tape broadcast on the Al-Arabiya television channel, a masked man claiming to belong to the group "Holders of the Black Banners" promised the militants would abide by any fatwa put out by the Association of Muslim Scholars, a Sunni clerical organization with alleged ties to insurgents.

A number of Sunni insurgent cells are involved in kidnappings, and it was not known if others would also abide by any fatwa.

The "Holders of the Black Banners" earlier released seven foreign truckers from India, Kenya and Egypt held hostage for six weeks after their Kuwaiti employer paid a $500,000 ransom and agreed to quit working in Iraq.

Abdel Satar Abdel Jabar, a spokesman for the Muslim Scholars Association, said the clerics will study the militants' request.

"To issue an edict on such a subject is not an easy task. Such a call needs a profound study," he said.

The French government, meanwhile, huddled in crisis talks over the fate of two French reporters held hostage by a separate group in Iraq and said it was still hopeful the pair would be released.

Elsewhere, a car bomb exploded outside an air base used by U.S. forces near Dijiel, about 25 miles north of Baghdad, injuring one American soldier and two Iraqi civilians, the U.S. military said. Three suspects were detained near the site of the attack, said Army Sgt. Robert Powell.

Also Sunday, police found the body of an Egyptian kidnap victim with his hands bound and showing signs he had been badly beaten before being murdered, said Iraqi National Guard Maj. Gen. Anwar Mohammed Amin.

Militants waging a 16-month insurgency have increasingly turned to kidnapping to force coalition forces and contractors from the country. More than 100 foreigners have been abducted since the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq in March 2002 and many have been executed.

140 posted on 09/05/2004 8:23:20 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
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To: johnb838
I just want to see a gallon milk jug full of botox or anthrax. That would be a stockpile, wouldn't it?

John Kerry used up all the botox.

But there's other stuff.

141 posted on 09/05/2004 8:26:37 AM PDT by Allegra (Is what I'm living right now just going to be one big "mistaken recollection?")
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To: johnb838

I love sarcasm..I use it subtly at times..I never want to label it..but I am compelled to do so after the fast misreading of my intent too many times...It does ruin it for me,though!


142 posted on 09/05/2004 8:26:37 AM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry has been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security)
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To: mass55th; MEG33
US Denies Holding Saddam's Deputy

The US is contradicting reports that Saddam Hussein's former second-in-command, Izzat Ibrahim al Douri, is in its custody after being arrested in northern Iraq. The Iraqi defence ministry said al Douri was captured by the US military while receiving medical treatment at a clinic near Tikrit. But a statement from the US military later said: "We do not have Izzat Ibrahim al- Douri in custody."

Al Douri is the highest-ranking member of Saddam's government still at large.

Once the vice-chairman of the Baath Party's Revolutionary Command Council, he was a long-time confidant of Saddam.

Iraqi information official Ibrahim Janabi said: "We are sure he is Izzat Ibrahim. He was arrested in a clinic in Makhoul near Tikrit and Adwar (his hometown)."

DNA tests were being carried out to confirm the man's identity.

In Kuwait, Iraqi Minister of State Qassim Dawoud confirmed al Douri's arrest. At a news conference, Qassim said some 150 others who were defending him were also arrested.

Al Douri is No.6 on America's wanted list and US forces offered a £5.5m bounty for his arrest.

US military officials believe he has been helping to organise the insurgency.

143 posted on 09/05/2004 8:27:37 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat
Well the AP report says the Iraqi's have him and the US Forces, who supported the operation, say we don't know whether they have him, and the reporter has decided that means WE don't have him..... in OUR Custody...... another shot at denying credit to the US forces......???
144 posted on 09/05/2004 8:30:18 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Former Saddam Deputy Arrested in Iraq

Unfortunately no he was not.

Alex Witt/MSNBC just reiterated that the U.S. has stated that is not who they have in custody. It is not al-Douri.

145 posted on 09/05/2004 8:35:02 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Allegra; MEG33; TexKat; Royal Guardsman
From the AP post at #140.......

U.S. military officials, speaking on condition of anonymity, said al-Douri - who was Saddam's right-hand man before the regime cell - was not in U.S. custody and that they were waiting to hear more from the Iraqis.

146 posted on 09/05/2004 8:37:38 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Well the AP report says the Iraqi's have him and the US Forces, who supported the operation, say we don't know whether they have him, and the reporter has decided that means WE don't have him..... in OUR Custody...... another shot at denying credit to the US forces......???

Have it your way. Time will tell.

147 posted on 09/05/2004 8:42:13 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; MEG33; TexKat; Royal Guardsman
said al-Douri - who was Saddam's right-hand man before the regime cell - was not in U.S. custody and that they were waiting to hear more from the Iraqis.

We're hearing here that they don't have him. But even this is spotty information.

I guess we'll know one way or the other soon.

148 posted on 09/05/2004 8:42:43 AM PDT by Allegra (Is what I'm living right now just going to be one big "mistaken recollection?")
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Well I knew that from the beginning.....Not knowing if it is true is different from "it is absolutely false that he has been captured".

Anxiously awaiting absolutely true or false!


149 posted on 09/05/2004 8:44:38 AM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry has been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security)
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To: Allegra

Thanks Allegra.


150 posted on 09/05/2004 8:45:39 AM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry has been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security)
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