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Who Among Us Does Not Love Windsurfing? [Free Republic mentioned]
The New York Times ^ | September 5, 2004 | Kate Zernike

Posted on 09/05/2004 8:46:21 AM PDT by Sarastro

YOU'D think John Kerry could be excused for wanting to spend a summer afternoon on the water.

Instead, David Letterman mocked him for windsurfing instead of campaigning. Jay Leno played the flip-flop card, quipping that even Mr. Kerry's hobby depends on which way the wind blows.

Zell Miller, who could himself be accused of being flip-flopper-in-chief, derided Mr. Kerry's swim trunks as "silly little bicycle pants."

Conservative blogs lumped the windsurfing in with Mr. Kerry's other elite hobbies - skiing, biking, flying between vacation homes. ("He married the all-inclusive package," sneered one posting on freerepublic.com. "EVERYTHING is included.")

Like the helmeted Michael Dukakis peeking out of the tank, or the first George Bush bewildered at the grocery scanner, the photo of Mr. Kerry windsurfing played into the negative stereotype his opponents are trying to play up - in this case, that of the out-of-touch, elitist Massachusetts liberal.

The stereotypes of the sport are unfair - there are lots of plumbers and construction workers windsurfing off Cape Cod and in the lakes of Iowa. (Better put: Who among us doesn't like windsurfing?) "I would have expected it to go over well, the stodgy, overserious guy trying to do something hipper," said Robert J. Thompson, a professor of media and popular culture at Syracuse University. "It's not like he was going out having a row with the Harvard crew team."

Still, there was the sense that no one would have mocked Mr. Bush photographed in the same position, even though the two men could have a Zell Miller duel over who has the deeper pedigree. But despite his legacy at Yale and the weekends in Kennebunkport, Me., Mr. Bush manages to pull off the common-man routine without question. Earlier this year when both he and Mr. Kerry were pictured riding top of the line bicycles, and both fell off, Mr. Kerry was the one ridiculed for the expensive bike.

"Often things that they both do still redound to Kerry's disadvantage - the Ivy League education, the biking," said Thomas Frank, author of "What's the Matter With Kansas? How Conservatives Won the Heart of America." Mr. Frank noted that he had just attended a Republican party at the New York Yacht Club, the varnished-wood redoubt of elitism. "But somehow the image of the yacht really clings to Kerry," he said. "Largely because Republicans have made the stereotype so natural. If a liberal drives an S.U.V., it's the car of the elite, if a Republican drives one it's instantly the car of the common man. They have a whole stereotype that they've spent years building."

Professor Thompson confesses that he does not think it has anything to do with windsurfing, or skiing, or even the mansions. After all, no one made fun of John F. Kennedy for all those yachting photos.

"The thing about windsurfing is, there's wind," he explains. "It blows through your hair. John Kerry looks like a guy who could ride in a convertible with the wind rushing through all that hair, but the truth is, his hair just looks goofy when he's out there on that windsurfer. I can't believe I'm saying this, but it just boils down to the hair." Quick, somebody warn Hillary.


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This is pretty critical of Kerry considering the source.

1 posted on 09/05/2004 8:46:21 AM PDT by Sarastro
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To: Sarastro

OH WOW, FR is becoming a source to reckon with!! HEY YOU, NYSLIME lurkers...SHOVE IT!! :p


2 posted on 09/05/2004 8:48:12 AM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: Sarastro

OKay, who gets credit for that line?

Speak up


3 posted on 09/05/2004 8:49:40 AM PDT by nuconvert (Everyone has a photographic memory. Some don't have film.)
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To: Sarastro

Typical NY Slimes, making us evil "sneering" conservatives... we were probably laughing at Ketchup boy.


4 posted on 09/05/2004 8:50:21 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (W-04!)
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To: Sarastro
-"But despite his legacy at Yale and the weekends in Kennebunkport, Me., Mr. Bush manages to pull off the common-man routine without question."

His legacy is that he grew up and was raised in Texas, no matter how much they may want to paint him 'like' Kerry.

5 posted on 09/05/2004 8:51:51 AM PDT by LibFreeUSA
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To: Sarastro
"But somehow the image of the yacht really clings to Kerry,"

Uhhh... maybe because he's the only candidate that actually HAS one?

6 posted on 09/05/2004 8:52:00 AM PDT by Tamzee (John Kerry was a North Vietnam War Hero.)
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To: Sarastro
"But somehow the image of the yacht really clings to Kerry," he said. "Largely because Republicans have made the stereotype so natural. If a liberal drives an S.U.V., it's the car of the elite, if a Republican drives one it's instantly the car of the common man. They have a whole stereotype that they've spent years building."

No, it's because he's an elitist phoney, and no photo ops can fix that problem.

7 posted on 09/05/2004 8:52:13 AM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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To: Sarastro
there are lots of plumbers and construction workers windsurfing off Cape Cod and in the lakes of Iowa

Yes, but their not running for president, nor do they look like dorks in the process. IMHO

8 posted on 09/05/2004 8:52:56 AM PDT by Horatio Gates (Hoarding Spitballs of Mass Destruction)
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To: Sarastro

like "windsurfing" is the problem. Hey NYT, it's the CANDIDATE, stupid!


9 posted on 09/05/2004 8:53:07 AM PDT by avital2
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To: nuconvert
"Who gets credit for that line?"

Good question. The New York Times probably doesn't even know.
10 posted on 09/05/2004 8:53:08 AM PDT by rs79bm (Insert Democratic principles and ideals here: .............this space intentionally left blank.....)
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To: Lijahsbubbe

He should be windsurfing in Florida right now!


11 posted on 09/05/2004 8:53:12 AM PDT by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: Sarastro
the truth is, his hair just looks goofy when he's out there on that windsurfer. I can't believe I'm saying this, but it just boils down to the hair."

no, the guy is an ass. it's NOT his hair, but his contemptuous beau brummell pompous pompadoured head with the creepy little smile that is the problem. he is a spoiled diva, bar none.

duh

12 posted on 09/05/2004 8:53:38 AM PDT by wildwood
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To: Sarastro
"I would have expected it to go over well, the stodgy, overserious guy trying to do something hipper," said Robert J. Thompson, a professor of media and popular culture at Syracuse University.

He was TRYING to do somehting HIPPER.

Another girlie man posing as something he is not.

13 posted on 09/05/2004 8:54:31 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help fund terrorism.)
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To: nuconvert; Watery Tart

Watery Tart, you made the NYT :-)
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To: Ruth A.
These pictures capture him running from one vacation activity to another in pastimes that are really for a much younger generation.

He married the all-inclusive package. EVERYTHING is included.


87 posted on 07/18/2004 8:22:03 AM PDT by Watery Tart (Kerry is bin Laden's Man/Bush is Mine)
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http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/1173558/posts?q=1&&page=51


14 posted on 09/05/2004 8:54:40 AM PDT by Tamzee (John Kerry was a North Vietnam War Hero.)
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To: nuconvert
OKay, who gets credit for that line?

Inquiring minds want to know!

And just how did the slimes know that they were sneering? Bwahahaha!

Jealous little slimes, taking potshots at Freepers who are showing the slimes for what they are.

Take a leap slimes, we are the new media.

15 posted on 09/05/2004 8:55:18 AM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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To: Sarastro

Oh please, like his view of Iraq, even Senator Kerry's hobby depends on which way the wind blows.


16 posted on 09/05/2004 8:55:41 AM PDT by toupsie
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To: Sarastro

He'd come across better with his "sports" without the outfits he wears for them. As Zell Miller said, "What sort of man wears spandex?" And always so colorful.

Of course, if he went to work in the Senate occasionally, took a break from the slopes, waves, etc, we might all feel a little less judgemental!


17 posted on 09/05/2004 8:57:01 AM PDT by BonnieJ
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To: cyborg
He should be windsurfing in Florida right now!

He'd be quite comfortable with that. I heard the wind has taken a sudden change of direction....Muahahahaha!

18 posted on 09/05/2004 8:57:18 AM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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To: Sarastro
("He married the all-inclusive package," sneered one posting on freerepublic.com. "EVERYTHING is included.")

Typical. Can't tell the diffrence between sneering and LOL.

19 posted on 09/05/2004 8:57:26 AM PDT by Semper Paratus
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To: Sarastro

The cluelessness of the MSM is astonishing. Clearly the image Kerry has is caused the the Jedi mind tricks of Karl Rove.


20 posted on 09/05/2004 8:58:04 AM PDT by don'tbedenied
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To: Sarastro

Out-of-touch, elitist Massachusetts liberal? What would give people that idea?

21 posted on 09/05/2004 8:58:47 AM PDT by Samwise (Even Kerry says that he can't think in a crisis.)
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To: Sarastro

Wind-surfing doesn't look good on anybody over forty.
And Kerry's vacations from his vacations look bad on a rich man.


22 posted on 09/05/2004 8:59:06 AM PDT by Sabatier
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To: Sarastro
("He married the all-inclusive package," sneered one posting on freerepublic.com. "EVERYTHING is included.")

"The New York Times is SUCH a JOKE," sneered another poster on freerepublic.com. She continued, "There are few things more pathetic than the most pompous legacy media establishment (NYT) continuing to operate under the delusion that it is relevant."

The NYT can quote me on that. I even wrote the quote for them so they'll get it right when they plagerize it.

23 posted on 09/05/2004 8:59:07 AM PDT by Lil'freeper (You do not have the plug-in required to view this tagline.)
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To: Watery Tart; cyborg

John Kerry to Watery Tart: "I WILL NOT HAVE MY PACKAGE QUESTIONED!!!"


24 posted on 09/05/2004 8:59:33 AM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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To: Sarastro

Let's see, he's losing...it must be image. Yeah, that's it. It's image. And those terrible Republicans are winning because they're so much better at...image-building! Yeah, that's it! Image-building!


25 posted on 09/05/2004 8:59:43 AM PDT by MoralSense
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To: Watery Tart
LOL, you have been quoted

"These pictures capture him running from one vacation activity to another in pastimes that are really for a much younger generation."

"He married the all-inclusive package. EVERYTHING is included."

87 posted on 07/18/2004 8:22:03 AM PDT by Watery Tart (Kerry is bin Laden's Man/Bush is Mine)

26 posted on 09/05/2004 8:59:53 AM PDT by deadhead (God Bless Our Troops and Veterans Bush/Cheney '04)
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To: Sarastro
Actually windsurfing is the one thing I can't criticize Kerry about. Last weekend I saw somebody kite surfing (not to be confused with windsurfing) at the beach and became absolutely FASCINATED with the sport. One big reason is the kite surfer was zipping along on the ocean about as fast as a jet skier. I have done some research on the Web and kite surfing isn't expensive nor as hard to learn as I thought (one guy told me it would cost over $1000 for the kite alone---NOT true). I have to say, if I were a presidential nominee and had the choice between kite surfing or campaigning, I would probably choose the former.

Any kite surfers out there? If so, what do you think of the sport? I am SERIOUSLY interested in this.

27 posted on 09/05/2004 9:00:23 AM PDT by PJ-Comix
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To: Lijahsbubbe

What package? :O)


28 posted on 09/05/2004 9:00:59 AM PDT by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: Tamsey; Watery Tart

You beat me to it, Tamsey :-)


29 posted on 09/05/2004 9:01:18 AM PDT by deadhead (God Bless Our Troops and Veterans Bush/Cheney '04)
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To: Sarastro

Personally, I don't have a problem with Kerry windsurfing, snowboarding, or any of that. I think it's petty to mock a guy's leisure activities and clothing. (Ahem. Anyone remember what they said about George Bush's barbecues, brush clearing, cowboy hats, flight suit, etc.?)


30 posted on 09/05/2004 9:01:21 AM PDT by John Jorsett
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To: Jim Robinson

You have helped shape history!


31 posted on 09/05/2004 9:01:21 AM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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To: Tamsey

WT has been missing in action for a couple of weeks.


32 posted on 09/05/2004 9:01:35 AM PDT by OSHA (Cheap Shots, Low Blows and Late Hits. Free Delivery. Fast Friendly Service with a Smile!)
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To: Sarastro

> "I would have expected it to go over well, the stodgy, overserious guy trying to do something hipper,"

> If a liberal drives an S.U.V., it's the car of the elite, if a Republican drives one it's instantly the car of the common man. They have a whole stereotype that they've spent years building.

It's all about character. This is a no-win for Kerry. Either he's a phony trying to look relevant, or he's an elitist playing with his expensive toys.

> After all, no one made fun of John F. Kennedy for all those yachting photos.

Guess she didn't spend too much time here, eh? Her heart probably wouldn't bear talking about the photoshops...


33 posted on 09/05/2004 9:02:24 AM PDT by Paul_B
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To: John Jorsett
I think it's petty to mock a guy's leisure activities and clothing.

The point is, they're blaming his image, the fact that Kerry looks so unnatural, on us.

34 posted on 09/05/2004 9:03:47 AM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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To: Sarastro; Watery Tart

Woo Hoo! Found him!

http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/1173558/posts?page=87#87

To: Ruth A.
These pictures capture him running from one vacation activity to another in pastimes that are really for a much younger generation.

He married the all-inclusive package. EVERYTHING is included.


87 posted on 07/18/2004 8:22:03 AM PDT by Watery Tart (Kerry is bin Laden's Man/Bush is Mine)


35 posted on 09/05/2004 9:04:27 AM PDT by Calpernia ("People never like what they don't understand")
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To: Sarastro

They sure picked one of the tamer "sneers."


36 posted on 09/05/2004 9:04:43 AM PDT by John Jorsett
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To: Sarastro

Kerry needs to act his age. A wetsuit on a sixty two year old is silly.


37 posted on 09/05/2004 9:05:04 AM PDT by Finalapproach29er ({about the news media} "We'll tell you any sh** you want hear" : Howard Beale --> NETWORK)
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To: Tamsey

Ah! You beat me to it :)


38 posted on 09/05/2004 9:05:30 AM PDT by Calpernia ("People never like what they don't understand")
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To: rs79bm
"Who gets credit for that line?"

Good question. The New York Times probably doesn't even know.

Be even funnier if THEY came up with it and decided to claim that it came from here!

39 posted on 09/05/2004 9:05:53 AM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: Sarastro

Go FREEPERS!!


40 posted on 09/05/2004 9:06:47 AM PDT by Chieftain (Support the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth and expose Hanoi John's FRAUD!)
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To: John Jorsett
(Ahem. Anyone remember what they said about George Bush's barbecues, brush clearing, cowboy hats, flight suit, etc.?)

They may have said plenty, but did GW look like a dork, like Kerry does? I don't think so. Kerry's image is his own dorky fault.

41 posted on 09/05/2004 9:07:01 AM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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To: LibFreeUSA
His legacy is that he grew up and was raised in Texas, no matter how much they may want to paint him 'like' Kerry.

And it was a crummy little house in Midland, Texas, not a castle. The notion that Dubya grew up in a life of luxury is a myth. Even as an adult he shared an apartment in Houston with a roommate before moving back to Midland and meeting Laura.

42 posted on 09/05/2004 9:07:22 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Sarastro
the negative stereotype his opponents are trying to play up

Who is trying? Kerry doesn't need any help in creating negative impressions. It goes right along with his occupation of Gigolo to his elderly spouse.

43 posted on 09/05/2004 9:07:26 AM PDT by hgro (<i>)
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To: Thinkin' Gal

The dorkness of being Kerry, discussed in Slimes.


44 posted on 09/05/2004 9:08:24 AM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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To: John Jorsett
think it's petty to mock a guy's leisure activities and clothing. (Ahem. Anyone remember what they said about George Bush's barbecues, brush clearing, cowboy hats, flight suit, etc.?)

You forgot his Segway dismount.

45 posted on 09/05/2004 9:09:26 AM PDT by Willie Green (Go Alan Go!!!)
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To: Samwise
Say! Are those Bose stereo speakers on those roll bars???

"They're the only ones that can stand up to the chop," Kerry was heard to remark.
46 posted on 09/05/2004 9:09:31 AM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: Sarastro
This is pretty critical of Kerry considering the source.

If the NYT goes neutral regarding Kerry's campaign, stick a fork in him, he's done.

5.56mm

47 posted on 09/05/2004 9:10:23 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: Watery Tart

Cool.


48 posted on 09/05/2004 9:11:29 AM PDT by I got the rope
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To: Samwise

Who's that ugly guy he's with?


49 posted on 09/05/2004 9:11:40 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Sarastro

50 posted on 09/05/2004 9:12:06 AM PDT by JOE6PAK (..with a six in one hand...and half a dozen in the other!)
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