Skip to comments.Confusion over 'arrest' of Saddam's number two
Posted on 09/05/2004 11:10:32 AM PDT by shrinkermd
TIKRIT, Iraq (AFP) - The fate of Saddam Hussein (news - web sites)'s right-hand man Izzat Ibrahim al-Duri was shrouded in confusion, as Iraqi officials appeared to backtrack on earlier claims he had been captured
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I'm also confused. Is the source AP or AFP? And was there any booing?
He was captured before he wasn't captured. That memory is seared, seared...
Source was AFP, now corrected.
And was there any booing?
I think the story now is,.....
who was the original source for this well embellished (with detail) story....
and what were they trying to do...
Iraq - Iraqi forces on Sunday captured Izzat Ibrahim al-Douri, the most wanted fugitive from Saddam Hussein (news - web sites)'s ousted dictatorship, Iraq (news - web sites)'s top information official said. Iraqi officials were conducting DNA tests to confirm the prisoner's identity.
But was it really Tikrit, and who was the President saying there weren't troops there?
Well, this is the original story I saw yesterday.
Even "our" Arabs have a 'Baghdad Bob' problem of saying what they hope and not sticking to verified truth ...
There's some fire under the smoke, but we dont know what it is ...
It looks like at least this much is true:
1) They got a tip Izzat was at this clinic.
"We had received information that he was admitted to a hospital near Tikrit, or let us say a clinic to have blood transfusion," Sarhan told the U.S.-funded, Arabic-language television station Alhurra.
2) They set up a raid there.
"As soon as we received this information, the forces were able to plan a major operation to arrest him," he said.
3) They captured and killed a number of people in
Ahmed Hadi, a spokesman for the minister of state for provincial affairs, said the approximately 150 gunmen with al-Douri clashed with the Iraqi forces. He did not say if there were any casualties. Hadi said the raid was carried out by Iraqi National Guard suppported by U.S. troops, helicopters and tanks.
4) They maybe got someone who looks like Izzat, or who they thought was him:
We are sure he is Izzat Ibrahim," information official Ibrahim Janabi said. "He was arrested in a clinic in Makhoul near Tikrit and Adwar (his hometown in northern Iraq) and 60 percent of the DNA test has finished."
Iraqi Minister of State Qassim Dawoud confirmed al-Douri's arrest. At a press conference in Kuwait, Qassim said some 150 others who were defending him were also arrested.
5) He's our #1 target now - if we get him, it's a big win:
Al-Douri, who had a U.S. bounty of $10 million on his head, was the highest-ranking member of Saddam's government who was still at large. Once the vice chairman of the Baath Party's Revolutionary Command Council, he was a longtime confidant of Saddam.
"A curse upon your mustache" Izzat.
I think there was another thread but I can't find it now.
There are very strong indications that Eizat Aldori the deputy of Saddam has been arrested near Tikrit!
After his arrest by the Iraqi Police and the US forces, 150 members of his guards tried to free him but most of them either killed or escaped.
More details later!
Congratulations for the victims of Abo-Al-Thaleg!
An ARAB TV network following the western media's approach of promoting news for crass commercial and money raising purposes......
now I can understand that!!!!
Everyone's back off this story. Very strange...
Saddam top aide's capture denied
Reports that Saddam Hussein's top aide Izzat Ibrahim al-Douri is in custody in Iraq have proved unfounded. Initial announcements by the Iraqi authorities suggested he had been arrested on Saturday while receiving treatment at a clinic near Tikrit.
But the US military have made it clear he is not in their custody, and the Iraqi national guard later denied involvement in any operation.
There have been several previous false reports about his arrest.
Mr Douri - known as Saddam Hussein's enforcer - has been described as the most senior figure in the former regime still at large, and the most wanted.
Mr Douri was Saddam Hussein's number two in the Revolutionary Command Council, and is sixth on the list of 55 most wanted members of the regime. The top five have all been captured or killed.
He is accused of financing insurgent groups, and has a $10m price tag on his head.
Maybe they want to secure the release of the french hostages before confirming his arrest. If they confirm his arrest and the french journalists are not released, this may put their lives in danger.
I'm wondering if Washington is waiting until after the hurricane (and maybe the holiday weekend) to confirm?
This is getting wild.
See #13 and #14...
More confusion... see #16.
He was captured before he wasn't captured.
Yeah, that report doesn't sound promising.
Please ping me if in the next 24 hrs he's either in jail or confirmed dead. Otherwise, it's a bad day...only kidding.
There was a good price tag on his head. Maybe they are trying to figure out who to pay? Or this could be akin to a UFO or Elvis sighting?!
A senior commander in the Iraqi national guard has insisted his officers have not captured Saddam Hussein's deputy, Izzat Ibrahim al-Duri.
Major General Ahmed Khalaf Salman, who is commander for the central region where the capture reportedly took place, says the guardsmen were wrong to announce they had apprehended him or participated in any such operation.
He says Iraqi forces did not take part in any operation and did not capture al-Duri.
Earlier, Iraqi officials said Ibrahim was captured in Tikrit, Saddam's hometown and powerbase north of Baghdad, in which 70 of his supporters were reportedly killed and 80 captured.
06/09/2004 01:53:18 | ABC Radio Australia News
ping for #27.
Baghdad Bob ..Where are you?
We need someone to cpature the next 4 years anyway.
I can't find anything about that on Fox News Channel.
Source was AFP, now corrected.
> And was there any booing?
AFP actually got the reaction of us Cheddar Brains right (polite applause).
Hmmm..... well, I've noticed that AP has some problems keeping up with the news on the weekends. So, I'm not going to give that much weight.
I love Fox, but they are really lacking on their hurricane coverage. Last night they had Geraldo blinking in out, and another anchor somewhere else in Florida. The other anchor had better reception, but everytime Geraldo got a two- second signal they went back to him. Why don't they just set these guys up inside somewhere and report the facts. Seeing Geraldo and the other anchor getting pelted with rain, and blown off the screen is more annoying than dramatic. Finally, I switched to MSNBC, and they had better coverage. Fox needs to get their act together on on-the-spot coverage.
Insightful post...for a newbie. Nice job.
5 Legislative Days Left Until The AWB Expires
One is dated for Sept 6th! (asia)
Looks like we werent the only ones fooled by this one. All the media seem to have ran with it.
Maybe it will pan out in a day or 2, or he will feel guilty and turn himself in.
Maybe he knows where the WMDs are.
**Confusion over 'arrest' of Saddam's number two **
Don't worry, we'll figure it out.
Sounds like he wants a deal.
I was wondering what he looked like. That sure is a series expression on his face. He looks like he needs a shower.
just getting home now, trying to follow this story with scant media reports today.
not sure what to make of this - but one thing, perhaps his capture cannot be acknowledged. if he has information to give, and he wants to enter the "witness protection program", we certainly can't say that we nabbed him, only to release him later. we've got to deny his capture right away, so he can just fade away.
if, within the next 2-3 weeks, suddenly we see some new bunker located with WMD - we'll know we got him, and what information he turned over to secure his new identity.
see post 46.
Person never seen or heard of again.
Government denies any knowledge of the arrest or where abouts of person.
One of those little bumps in the road to democracy.