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They Knifed Babies, They Raped Girls
Sunday Mirror ^ | September 5, 2004 | Euan Stretch

Posted on 09/05/2004 11:58:26 AM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah

THE full horror of the Russian school atrocity began to emerge yesterday as traumatised children told horrific tales of stabbed babies and brutal rapes.

It has also emerged that scores of the 323 who died - including many children - had been shot in the back.

While despairing soldiers and rescue workers moved among the growing pile of body bags, it was revealed that an 18-month-old baby had been repeatedly stabbed by a black-clad terrorist who had run out of ammunition.

Other survivors told how screaming teenage girls were dragged into rooms adjoining the gymnasium where they were being held and raped by their Chechen captors who chillingly made a video film of their appalling exploits

They said children were forced to drink their own urine and eat the petals off the flowers they had brought their teachers after nearly three days without food or water in the stifling hot gym.

Their stories came as Russian officials warned that the final death toll of the siege of Middle School No 1 at Beslan in North Ossetia - in which up to 1,200 people were held captive - was likely to be more than 400.

The official toll yesterday stood at 323 which included 156 children, 10 Russian soldiers and two emergency service workers - 35 of the hostage-takers were also killed. Last night 434 people were being treated in hospital with 247 children and 85 adults in a critical condition.

A Russian official said six seriously injured children had been taken to Moscow for treatment.

"One of them is a child, just 18 months old, with many knife wounds," he said.

(Excerpt) Read more at sundaymirror.co.uk ...


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To: Canticle_of_Deborah

Those “freedom fighters” can kiss my white hairy butt.
Place your bets ladies and gentlemen - when will our “esteemed” MSM cover this part of the story? The first reports were critical of the Russian response, blaming the soldiers for the casualties among the hostages.


401 posted on 09/05/2004 3:57:06 PM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: Syncro

Isn't 7 the age of reason?


402 posted on 09/05/2004 3:57:37 PM PDT by BykrBayb (5 minutes of prayer for Terri, every day at 11 am EDT, until she's safe. http://www.terrisfight.org)
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To: Age of Reason; Canticle_of_Deborah; RightWhale
In the article there were direct quotes by hostages who gave their names. Are you calling them liars?

No. But British newspapers in general aren't as careful as ours, and the Daily Mirror is bad all around.

The main thing is that these terrorists are as evil as evil can be. However, what commonly happens in these cases is that the exact form the evil took gets misstated. The danger is that people looking for excuses to look the other way then start to mistrust all the reports. The classic example was the Belgian attrocities committed by the Germans at the start of World War I, when they killed many thousands of Belgian civilians. Sometimes they just went after the priests, but more than once they locked the whole village in a building and burnt it. This is in the recent book "The Rape of Belgium."

Unfortunately, the Belgians started claiming, among many true horrors, one apparently false one -- that babies were bayoneted. Actually, although the Germans would shoot or burn anyone, it just was not true that they singled out babies for extra savagery or special measures. As a result, after World War I, the "lie" about the bayonetted babies was constantly trumpeted as proving that the Germans weren't as bad as extremists like Churchill said they were.

The historical lesson here is that it pays to just emphasize the horrors we know to be true. No matter how good a story sounds in the Daily Mirror, which is, after all, leftist, I see no reason to repeat it until it appears elsewhere and plenty of reason to be careful.

403 posted on 09/05/2004 3:58:26 PM PDT by Steve Eisenberg
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To: followerofchrist

Here's another --- as long as you're playing the role of Islamic apologist:


The Khartoum regime has declared a jihad against the mostly Christian and animist south that has resulted in more than 2 million deaths and 4.5 million displaced people in the past two decades. The U.S. Congress has termed the government's actions genocide and recently passed a bill, the Sudan Peace Act, that punishes the Islamist regime for its atrocities. Secretary of State Colin Powell called the kidnappings, killings, rape and enslavement "the worst human rights nightmare on the planet."

"As a black African woman, I cannot and will not be silent as black men in Arab nations are chained up like dogs to the back doors of Muslim households and fed, literally, from doggie bowls," Boof said in a statement she issued regarding the fatwa. "I will not be silent as African women are raped, mutilated and mentally demeaned by sadistic human beings calling themselves children of Allah. I will not be silent as the number of little black boys who are sodomized by their Arab masters continues to soar, while even worse atrocities attend the lives of little black girls."

By Kola Boof --- under the protection of the US Government because of the fatwa against her. She's not a Christian.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/printer-friendly.asp?ARTICLE_ID=29607


404 posted on 09/05/2004 3:58:41 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: Syncro; BykrBayb
Did Clinton have sexual relations with Monica Lewinsky?

As far as I can tell, yes.

But if my only source for that had been a tabloid that published articles like the following, I'd doubt that too:

"IT'S BACK ON Nancy Dell'Olio and England manager Sven Goran Eriksson are living together again

"BEDDED LIAM & ROBBIE IN A DAY Revealed: The mystery blonde who made love to Robbie Williams in Liam Gallagher's bed...

"IT'S OFF England soccer ace Sol Campbell has been dumped by his millionaire girlfriend...

"FERGIE BID FOR I'M A CELEBRITY The Duchess of York is poised to appear in I'm A Celebrity...Get Me Out Of Here!...

"LUCKER IN LOVE Sexy Footballer's Wives star Zoe Lucker has fallen for a hunky DJ...

"POSTIE GIRL,19 CAUGHT IN THE SACK ON ROUND Teenage postgirl facing the sack after being caught enjoying secret sex session on her delivery round...

"PINSENT WIFE ON HER GOLDEN WONDER HERO Did we celebrate with sex? Well, rowing does wonderful things to a man's body...

"LAGS TO TAKE HIKE IN PRISON Fat prisoners at some of Britain's toughest jails are to be taken on hikes behind bars in a bid to improve their fitness..."

I guess I'll believe what this paper reports when I learn to believe in Alien abductions.

405 posted on 09/05/2004 3:59:55 PM PDT by Age of Reason
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To: BykrBayb
I bit my fingers (cyber tongue lol) soooo hard to keep from posting exactly the same thing.

Yep, 7...
406 posted on 09/05/2004 4:00:21 PM PDT by Syncro
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To: FITZ
We'll see what comes out in as investigations are done.

Now that is wise.

407 posted on 09/05/2004 4:00:37 PM PDT by Age of Reason
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To: joanie-f

Please post your post from this morning on this thread too.


408 posted on 09/05/2004 4:00:37 PM PDT by SiliconValleyGuy
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To: Age of Reason

"I will not be silent as the number of little black boys who are sodomized by their Arab masters continues to soar, while even worse atrocities attend the lives of little black girls." (from link posted at #404)

Just don't be at all surprised. Like I said --- Arabs are involved and they rape African Christian children, why would Russian Christian children be different?


409 posted on 09/05/2004 4:02:52 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: umgud
They're just doing allah's work...

That's right.

Remember that the next time you drive past your local Islamic Baby-raping/Child-killing Planning Center AKA a Mosque...

410 posted on 09/05/2004 4:03:14 PM PDT by Walkin Man
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To: Steve Eisenberg

Yours is an absolutely splendid post.


411 posted on 09/05/2004 4:04:25 PM PDT by Age of Reason
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To: FITZ
What's any of that got to do with what transpired in that school?

I give up. LOL.

412 posted on 09/05/2004 4:05:50 PM PDT by Age of Reason
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To: Age of Reason

Same kind of people involved.


413 posted on 09/05/2004 4:06:51 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: Age of Reason

And even more --- same allah involved.


414 posted on 09/05/2004 4:07:32 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: MarMema

No, these appeared to me to be very similar to the large wooden crosses erected at Colombine.


415 posted on 09/05/2004 4:08:36 PM PDT by OldFriend (GIVE EM ZELL)
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To: Age of Reason
As far as I can tell, yes.

WHAT???

I insist you show me the video.

After all the work you did to convince me that a sex act did not happen unless it is proved by a video you couldn't believe that about Clinton unless you have the video.

Could you link it here please?

I kind of gave up on "reasoning" with you and now you assume there are no other accounts I am relying on except a tabloid.

You are such a master of spinning and twisting words that I hesitate to tell you I have seen reports from Parents of the children and Doctors.

416 posted on 09/05/2004 4:09:42 PM PDT by Syncro
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To: Steve Eisenberg

Re your post #403: Very wise advice. There are plenty of accurate bad things to throw at our enemies. Using bad ammo, which can easily be disproven, has a tendency to tarnish the credibility of the accurate stuff.


417 posted on 09/05/2004 4:09:58 PM PDT by Restorer
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To: FITZ
Ever since some Muslim shot and destroyed the health of the Pope, he became weakened. I'm not sure what happened, but he even went to visit that Muslim who tried to murder him. It's kind of like democrats who backed down after supporting Israel after a Muslim killed Robert F. Kennedy.

The Pope has a religious duty which leads in one direction. The military have contrasting duties, but that wouldn't lead me to question the Pope's act of forgiveness.

418 posted on 09/05/2004 4:10:10 PM PDT by Steve Eisenberg
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To: Steve Eisenberg
Here is a different source for those who are blind and will not see.

A few gasping hostages got to slake their thirst when captors ripped clothes off young girls and soaked them in water.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1207082/posts

I guess the nice terrorists were simply helping young girls cool themselves off by removing their clothes. Of course, those nice men would never do anything bad, would they? All of those nasty stories about Muslim men abusing women are just lies, lies I tell you, lies!!!

419 posted on 09/05/2004 4:11:43 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah (lex orandi, lex credendi)
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To: FITZ

Fitz, I can't recall the site that is devoted to revealing the atrocities committed on Sudanese Christians and a plea to assist them--Voice of the Martyrs maybe? Do you happen to have it?


420 posted on 09/05/2004 4:18:18 PM PDT by cupcakes
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To: AnnaZ; Canticle_of_Deborah; Baynative; Nov3; Just mythoughts; BamaDi; HungarianGypsy

At least it is a hot topic on yahoo message boards. I usually don't like yahoo boards, but the do give an idea of a broader perception of events and the Russia massacre has evoked a lot of angry responses. I searched Saturday for news on the massacre and cable news and all I could watch was hurricane stories.


421 posted on 09/05/2004 4:26:10 PM PDT by mel
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah
Forget about this "children" stuff...

I heard something very bad happened at Abu Ghraib?....is this true?

I hate the media.

422 posted on 09/05/2004 4:27:13 PM PDT by RckyRaCoCo (todo su país es pertenece a nosotros)
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To: followerofchrist
First of all, every passage that you quoted is God delivering judgment upon a group of people for a reason. Only one of those, Samuel 15:1-3 actually involves the Israelite being told to kill them, and the reason was "I (God) remember that which amalek did to Israel, how he laid in wait for him in the way when he came up from" Egypt" The Jews were not given orders to go out and slaughter the Infidels. Also, nowhere in the New Testament is there any order to kill all who will not convert. There have been Christian who have done this, but that was not because they were trying to obey God, but rather because they wanted land.
423 posted on 09/05/2004 4:28:11 PM PDT by Celtic Rose
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To: cupcakes

One site:

http://www.jihadwatch.org/

There is a Voice of the Martyrs group --- I don't know if they have a web page. The following links give information about that group and what is going on in the Sudan.

http://www.thebibleleague.ca/persecutionsSUDAN.htm

http://www.ecatholic2000.com/sj/persec.shtml

http://www.biblevoice.org/sect10


424 posted on 09/05/2004 4:30:14 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: followerofchrist
You still cannot figure it out.

ANY passage that you pull from the Bible documenting violence and genocide is from the PAST.

The quotes from the Koran are instructing worshippers to go out and kill in the FUTURE.

425 posted on 09/05/2004 4:36:18 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Truth, Justice and the Texan Way)
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To: SiliconValleyGuy; feinswinesuksass; Canticle_of_Deborah; tkathy; Tijeras_Slim; Chuzzlewit; ...
Thanks for the pings, feinswinesucksass and Dave.

Dave asked that I re-post what I wrote this morning. (It’s a good thing I wrote it this morning, because after reading this article, I can hardly see straight to write anything …)

I, for one, am more disturbed about what occurred in Russia last week than I can recall being upset about anything since 9/11/01. And it’s not just the terrorism, but the international media coverage of it.

I taught our adult Sunday school class at church this morning. Early on in the lesson I made reference to the tragedy at Beslan, simply because it helped to drive home the point of the lesson.

There were maybe forty people in the class and, from the discussion that ensued, it was apparent that almost all of them were pretty much in the dark about the details of what occurred in Russia last Thursday and Friday.

These are intelligent citizens of ‘middle America’ – and Christians, to boot. Good people. They aren’t tuned into FoxNews eight hours a day, but I would venture to guess that they listen to as much news as the average American – probably more.

Only eight or ten people (roughly one quarter of those in the room) were aware that 340+ people were killed in the incident, half of them young children. No one was aware that some of the murdered children were shot in the back as they attempted to escape. Only one person was aware that very few of the children were allowed to go to the bathroom, most were not provided water, and some were reduced to urinating in cups and bottles, and then drinking their own urine, or pouring it on themselves to lessen the effects of the sweltering heat. No one was aware that a man was murdered in front of a group of children, after which they were told, ‘This will happen to you if you don’t obey us.’ No one was aware that some of the barbarians have been identified as members of the Wahhabi sect of Islam, and that many of the hostages were ordered to pray to Allah. Just a handful knew that many of the victims were Christian. Most of them knew that many of the hundreds of survivors will be maimed for life.

Why is this? Why are the important facts (the number of children involved, direct connections with radical Islam, the sadistic torment that was visited on the victims before their death or rescue … ) about this tragedy not being hammered home by the mainstream media?

Last night I watched about two hours of FoxNews (we report … you decide) while preparing this morning’s Sunday school lesson. What I saw and heard was very unsettling. In the two hours time (now mind you, this news report was occurring a mere twenty-four hours after the ‘resolution’ of the crisis in Russia) of news coverage, I saw maybe a grand total of five minutes coverage of the massacre in Russia – and that five minutes contained virtually no references to any of the facts mentioned above.

Other than occasional mention of President Clinton’s upcoming heart surgery, the remaining hour and fifty-five minutes was spent interviewing Geraldo Rivera and various other Fox correspondents, attired in rain gear, standing out in the rain and wind, and prognosticating about how hard hurricane Frances was going to hit Florida at any moment. These reporters were frantic -- in a look-at-me, aren’t-I-brave-standing-out-here-in-the-wind-and-rain? kind of way (maybe they should issue purple hearts for hurricane reporting). They would point to the palm trees swaying behind them, or the boats being tossed about in the harbor, occasionally pick up a severed tree branch that had been ripped from a nearby tree, complain about the pounding rain and ferocious (if I hear that word one more time, I think I will lose it) winds that were battering them, and paint a grim picture about what was imminently going to happen to the area around them.

The correspondents’ (supposedly) conspicuous bravery, and humanitarian kindergarten-level advice and warnings (stay indoors, or find a nearby shelter, be aware that strong rain and winds can cause significant damage …) that were being dished out, for hours on end, gave the term overkill new meaning.

I’m not in any way minimizing the personal tragedy that many in Florida will have to endure as a result of the devastation caused by Frances. But let’s put things in perspective here.

Hurricane Frances is an act of nature – and an act of nature for which the residents of coastal Florida must always be as prepared as they are able. Considering modern meteorological advances, we receive fair warning that such natural catastrophes are approaching. And, although material losses are usually significant (a sad fact in itself), very few lives are lost. And very few people receive life-long emotional scars as a result of the tragedy.

On a scale of human heartbreak, what occurred in Russia just a few days ago eclipses any havoc that Frances may wreak on the lives that she touches.

More than three hundred innocent people (half of them young children) had no advanced warning that, on the very first day of the school year, their innocent lives would be infiltrated, suddenly and violently, by a handful of evil, sadistic men bent on mindlessly torturing, and eventually killing, hundreds of them. Men who were joyful at the prospect of instilling instantaneous, paralyzing fear in the hearts of young children. Men whose barbaric behaviors, in some instances, forced young children to decide to attempt to escape rather than continue to wonder what their captors’ next sadistic cruelty would entail. Men who shot those children who attempted to escape in the back.

More than a thousand innocent people in that school building had no warning of the tragedy that was to occur. They endured humiliating, traumatizing torment for what must have seemed a seventy-two hour eternity. More than three hundred of them (most of them children) will not live to tell about it.

We need to hear their stories. We need to be told, over and over again, that at least a segment of their captors was aligned with the radical Islam fanaticism that threatens not only school houses in Russia, but school houses, airports, train stations, waterworks, public utilities, football stadiums, small towns, and large metropolitan areas, all over the world.

What happened in Russia last week will serve as a foretaste of things to come unless the rest of the world connects-the-dots and looks beyond our noses. The media, now interminably focused on hurricanes and heart bypasses, are obscuring the dots and attempting to take our eyes off the horizon.

I learned, once again, at church this morning that, unless good people demand to know the truth, and demand that our leadership and our media get their priorities in order, the madmen of this world are going to continue to catch us off-guard, and focused on bread and circuses, while they lie in ambush, waiting to prey on their next victims.

Many of those killed in Russia just two days ago were Christians. All of those daily killed in Israel by Palestinian terrorists are Jews. The bloodthirst of radical Islam will not be satisfied until such atrocities bring Christianity, Judaism, and all liberty-loving people to their knees at the feet of Allah. And we help them in their evil crusade by minimizing many of those atrocities by choosing to occupy ourselves with disasters that are somehow easier to face.

~ joanie

426 posted on 09/05/2004 4:41:09 PM PDT by joanie-f (To disagree with three-fourths of the American public is one of the first requisites of sanity.)
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To: joanie-f

Bravo!! Excellent post.


427 posted on 09/05/2004 4:44:40 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: Centurion2000; followerofchrist

Muslims will always do that --- find some obscure event that may or may not have happened 1000 or 4000 years ago to justify what they just did.


428 posted on 09/05/2004 4:46:10 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: Centurion2000

Anyhow --- "followerofchrist" is really "followerofmohammad".


429 posted on 09/05/2004 4:46:57 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: joanie-f
And we help them in their evil crusade by minimizing many of those atrocities by choosing to occupy ourselves with disasters that are somehow easier to face.

Some of "we" are guilty of such; it is, however, the MEDIA, as a whole, and the leaders WE elect who are most guilty of the crimes of minimizing and ignoring that which should never be.

Excellent post.

430 posted on 09/05/2004 4:47:51 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: joanie-f
We need to hear their stories. We need to be told, over and over again, that at least a segment of their captors was aligned with the radical Islam fanaticism that threatens not only school houses in Russia, but school houses, airports, train stations, waterworks, public utilities, football stadiums, small towns, and large metropolitan areas, all over the world.

Don't forget churches. The terrorists don't want us to perceive any place as safe.

What happened in Russia last week will serve as a foretaste of things to come unless the rest of the world connects-the-dots and looks beyond our noses. The media, now interminably focused on hurricanes and heart bypasses, are obscuring the dots and attempting to take our eyes off the horizon.

I expect it from the liberal media who have an agenda but I had higher hopes for Fox.

431 posted on 09/05/2004 4:52:19 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah (lex orandi, lex credendi)
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah

If this horror doesn't shake up the whole world, I don't know what will. Europe should be horrified and angrier than hell, but I'm guessing they won't be.


432 posted on 09/05/2004 4:52:37 PM PDT by earlyamerican
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To: joanie-f

What you said in 426.

Kudos.


433 posted on 09/05/2004 4:52:48 PM PDT by Restorer
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To: joanie-f
The bloodthirst of radical Islam will not be satisfied until such atrocities bring Christianity, Judaism, and all liberty-loving people to their knees at the feet of Allah

They will have to be satisfied to kiss my royal Irish a$$ because there is no way I will join in their worship of Moloch.

434 posted on 09/05/2004 4:55:44 PM PDT by RightWhale (Withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty and establish property rights)
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To: joanie-f

Amen


435 posted on 09/05/2004 5:05:17 PM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry has been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security)
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To: joanie-f; FITZ
joanie-f, Fitz directed me to #426, which I read with great interest.

I have a file of links posted for the purpose of educating people... at the "last" is everything I have on Beslan so far:

-Islam, a Religion of Peace®? Some links...--

436 posted on 09/05/2004 5:09:16 PM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the Trackball into the Sunset...)
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To: joanie-f

Fantastic post...thank you for pinging me to it! It makes me so furious to see that the MSM has so little compassion for atrocities such as this. I have no understanding that any journalist (especially considering most of them are the "party of the people") can ignore these instances of barbarity!


437 posted on 09/05/2004 5:11:54 PM PDT by 2nd amendment mama (Can The Ban - let the AWB sunset • www.2asisters.org • www.cantheban.net)
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To: joanie-f

Thank you Joanie..

Well said!


438 posted on 09/05/2004 5:17:27 PM PDT by The Mayor (Every loss leaves an empty space that only God's presence can fill..)
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah

Babies on bayonets.

Remember the Rape of Nanking?

Remember what we did to those bastards?

Remember Hiroshima and Nagasaki?


439 posted on 09/05/2004 5:20:31 PM PDT by Palladin (Proud to be a FReeper!)
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To: Politicalmom

As bad as 911 was this is even worse. Like you said, "nuke 'em".


440 posted on 09/05/2004 5:21:53 PM PDT by Texasforever (God can send you to hell but he can't sue you. He can't find a lawyer.)
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To: AskStPhilomena
I wonder if the pope still holds to the "enlightened" teaching of Vatican 2 that "muslims together with us worship one, merciful God".

I really hope he doesn't. I'm not Catholic, but I have always had a lot of respect and affection for this Pope.

I had not known he ever believed that kind of nonsense. It's very disappointing to me if he still does.

441 posted on 09/05/2004 5:22:49 PM PDT by epow
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To: B Knotts
Whaddya think?

I think you're dead right, and I'm not alone.

442 posted on 09/05/2004 5:27:19 PM PDT by epow
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To: joanie-f
God bless you, joanie.
443 posted on 09/05/2004 5:27:22 PM PDT by silversky (DU influence is a crime.)
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To: joanie-f

Wonderful post! I'm glad you opened a few eyes amongst your church brethren.

The hurricane coverage was ludicrous and superfluous. FOX needs to get its priorities straight.

One excuse they may have is that it is a holiday weekend, they are short-staffed as far as news-gathering goes, and most of their bright lights were on vacation.

I hope to see the Russian massacre covered in depth in the week ahead.


444 posted on 09/05/2004 5:28:22 PM PDT by Palladin (Proud to be a FReeper!)
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To: joanie-f

joanie,

Thanks for all that you do to try to wake the people. I share your disgust with the MSN and even Fox News for not covering this in detail.

Don't they know that radical (if there really is such a distinction) will not cut them any slack except maybe to kill them last after they have recorded the slaughter of everyone else around them?

BTW, a bunch of us FReepers are getting together in the Bedford PA area for a picnic next Saturday (9/11). I hope that you can join us. FReepmail Boxsford for details and directions.


445 posted on 09/05/2004 5:31:25 PM PDT by Badray (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown. RIP harpseal.)
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To: Politicalmom
Nuke them.

Unfortunately for us...and humanity...many right here on FR are apologists for Islam and think only a misguided few are evil.

Were only SOME of the Nazis of Germany in WWII evil and the rest innocent?

NUKE THEM.

446 posted on 09/05/2004 5:32:29 PM PDT by Indie (Ignorance of the truth is no excuse for stupidity.)
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To: FITZ
I'm not sure what happened, but he even went to visit that Muslim who tried to murder him.

I'm pretty sure I know what happened. John Paul did what any obedient Christian would have done, he followed the example of his Lord and forgave his tormentor. Remember the Lord's request from the cross, "Father forgive them for they know not what they do"?

Forgiveness of those who cause us suffering is not optional if we want forgiveness from God for our own sin. It's in the book.

447 posted on 09/05/2004 5:36:37 PM PDT by epow
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To: joanie-f
Hear, hear!

I agree: the hurricane coverage was ridiculous.

This atrocity was way undercovered; people need to know the sheer scale of the butchery committed by these adherents to the Religion of Peace(tm).

448 posted on 09/05/2004 5:37:48 PM PDT by B Knotts ("John Kerry, who says he doesn't like outsourcing, wants to outsource our national security.")
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah; ninenot; sittnick; steve50; Hegemony Cricket; Willie Green; Wolfie; ...
Koran 33:50
"Prophet, We have made lawful to you ... the slave girls whom God has given you as booty."

Koran 4:24
"And all married women are forbidden unto you EXCEPT those captives whom your right hand possesses. It is a decree of Allah for you."
449 posted on 09/05/2004 5:40:23 PM PDT by A. Pole (Madeleine Albright:"We are the indispensable nation. We stand tall. We see further into the future.")
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To: joanie-f
A small baby was stabbed several times with a knife. A good note in all this is this story today about this tragedy, a woman who was told she could leave but that she had to leave one of her children behind was today reunited with the child she had to leave behind.
450 posted on 09/05/2004 5:41:01 PM PDT by stockpirate (Dick Morris; Before he spoke, supporting Bush was a duty one owed to the fallen. Now, it is an honor)
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