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Cleric supports targeting children
telegraph.co.uk ^ | Rajeev Syal

Posted on 09/05/2004 8:29:36 PM PDT by Nepalis

Cleric supports targeting children

An extremist Islamic cleric based in Britain said yesterday that he would support hostage-taking at British schools if carried out by terrorists with a just cause.

Omar Bakri Mohammed, the spiritual leader of the extremist sect al-Muhajiroun, said that holding women and children hostage would be a reasonable course of action for a Muslim who has suffered under British rule.

In an interview with The Sunday Telegraph, Mr Mohammed said: "If an Iraqi Muslim carried out an attack like that in Britain, it would be justified because Britain has carried out acts of terrorism in Iraq.

"As long as the Iraqi did not deliberately kill women and children, and they were killed in the crossfire, that would be okay."

Mr Mohammed, 44, who lives in Edmonton, north London, but is originally from Syria, also claimed that the Chechen rebels were not responsible for the deaths of more than 350 people - at least half of them children - who are so far known to have died in Beslan.

"The Mujahideen [Chechen rebels] would not have wanted to kill those people, because it is strictly forbidden as a Muslim to deliberately kill women and children. It is the fault of the Russians," he said.

The father of seven came to Britain in 1985 after being deported from Saudi Arabia because of his membership of a banned group. He has since been given leave by the Home Office to remain in Britain for five years but the Government is reviewing his status.

He gave an interview yesterday to promote a "celebratory" conference in London next Saturday to commemorate the third anniversary of the September 11 attacks.

Andrew Dismore, the Labour MP for Hendon, was infuriated by Mr Mohammed's comments. "That sounds to me like incitement and I will report him to Scotland Yard," he said. "It is an insult to most moderate Muslims, who are sick of people like this claiming to represent them."


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1 posted on 09/05/2004 8:29:36 PM PDT by Nepalis
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To: Nepalis

Folks talk brave in a country with no guns.


2 posted on 09/05/2004 8:31:33 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid (Semper Fi)
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To: Nepalis

Imagine if this was said by a U.S. cleric.


3 posted on 09/05/2004 8:32:50 PM PDT by spyone
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To: Nepalis

Isn't this the one who wants to celebrate the 9/11 anniversary?


4 posted on 09/05/2004 8:33:45 PM PDT by combat_boots (Dug in and not budging an inch)
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To: Nepalis
It is an insult to most moderate Muslims, who are sick of people like this claiming to represent them.

And where are all these "moderate" Muslims that can't seem to speak out against these horrors? I'm beginning to think they don't exist.

5 posted on 09/05/2004 8:34:58 PM PDT by germanicus
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To: spyone
"Imagine if this was said by a U.S. cleric"

It would be ignored. Wouldn't even make the wires.

6 posted on 09/05/2004 8:35:52 PM PDT by oprahstheantichrist (Life is short. Pray hard.)
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To: Nepalis

Is it open season on Imams yet?

Lock and load!!


7 posted on 09/05/2004 8:35:55 PM PDT by bubman
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To: spyone
Imagine if this was said by a U.S. cleric.

A Moslem Imam in the US? Saying something like this? I'd bet money you would not have to search too far to find one that would say something like this or worse.

8 posted on 09/05/2004 8:35:56 PM PDT by isthisnickcool (If it's followers kill children it isn't a religion!)
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To: germanicus

I support killing Islamonazi clerics!


PresidentFelon


9 posted on 09/05/2004 8:37:17 PM PDT by PresidentFelon (Reuters Reporter Adam Entous beats his mother)
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To: Nepalis

Might I suggest "Deport with extreme prejudice!"


10 posted on 09/05/2004 8:38:06 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservatives)
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To: MadIvan

Why is this guy still running around alive?


11 posted on 09/05/2004 8:43:13 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (...and Freedom tastes of Reality)
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To: Nepalis
"If an Iraqi Muslim carried out an attack like that in Britain, it would be justified because Britain has carried out acts of terrorism in Iraq.

Sounds like he just issued a Fatwa.

12 posted on 09/05/2004 8:43:43 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: Nepalis

And I support targeting the so called Cleric. Something in the neighborhood of 2KT.


13 posted on 09/05/2004 8:47:04 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: PresidentFelon
I support killing Islamonazi clerics!

Absolutely. They are the head of the snake and we are at war. As long as they are allowed to spew their hatred unopposed, we will never win.

14 posted on 09/05/2004 8:48:13 PM PDT by germanicus
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To: Nepalis

The cleric-al error should be dispensed with! Take him to ye royal Tower of London and in ye customary way that it was once done, off with his head.


15 posted on 09/05/2004 8:48:50 PM PDT by rdl6989 (Kerry voted for the war before he voted against it?)
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To: Nepalis

I favor targeting clerics who target non-muslims.


16 posted on 09/05/2004 8:48:55 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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To: germanicus

You are right .


17 posted on 09/05/2004 8:49:39 PM PDT by Nepalis
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To: Nepalis

Another fine representative of the "ROP". The more these psychopaths talk, the more they turn sensible people against them.


18 posted on 09/05/2004 8:49:44 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (You have entered a "No Girlie Men" zone. Thank you for not whining and sniveling.)
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To: DuncanWaring
Exactly. Same for that POS Egyptian calling for jihad in Iraq, and that murdering POS in Germany who is about to get off because the Kraut courts won't accept our intel against him.

How long are we going to put up with this crap before we start providing some 9mm skull ventilation for their over heated brains?

19 posted on 09/05/2004 8:50:04 PM PDT by pierrem15
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To: pierrem15

I think a much more fitting way to deal with these people is to buy up their mosques, and put in pig pens instead.
I find it very disturbing that these people are able to spout their garbage by using our own freedoms, which they don't allow others to have in their own countries.
they have NO business being in our countries and anyone who supports them should be sent post haste to the muslim country of choice.
This is WAR and anyone who doesn't see it is either totally blind, or stupid.


20 posted on 09/05/2004 8:54:33 PM PDT by Widows Son (Semper Fi!)
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To: Nepalis
"The Mujahideen [Chechen rebels] would not have wanted to kill those people, because it is strictly forbidden as a Muslim to deliberately kill women and children. It is the fault of the Russians,"

This reminds me of the Twain novel, Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's court. This guy can just say anything, no matter how ludicrous, and his followers just accept it as fact. There is no reasoning, no critical thinking, no logic in these people:

the Iman, the Koran says so, I guess it is true!

Contrast this to Christianity, where the basis of the entire religion, Jesus, asked everyone to question everything he did and said. I just do not get it.

21 posted on 09/05/2004 8:54:43 PM PDT by schu
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To: rdl6989

beheading is much too gentle.
i remember seeing an iron maiden in the tower. that would be a better way to deal with this "cleric". the door closes slowly, and hundreds of spikes slowly poke into the guy.
i think we should all respect the culture of the brits, and revive the iron maiden.


22 posted on 09/05/2004 8:55:59 PM PDT by drhogan
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To: Nepalis
If had the power I would deport him and and his family.

I would deport him to the Russian town that the massacre took place in and call ahead and tell the parents what he said and what time his plane would arrive.

23 posted on 09/05/2004 8:58:51 PM PDT by mississippi red-neck
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To: bubman
Lock and load!!

Do it for the children ....

24 posted on 09/05/2004 8:58:51 PM PDT by 11th_VA (While Kerry lied, good men died ...)
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To: DoughtyOne

I'd vote for a .50 cal deportation.


25 posted on 09/05/2004 9:03:32 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (You have entered a "No Girlie Men" zone. Thank you for not whining and sniveling.)
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To: Nepalis

This thing needs to be removed from the gene pool.


26 posted on 09/05/2004 9:08:29 PM PDT by stumpy (M)
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To: germanicus
And where are all these "moderate" Muslims that can't seem to speak out against these horrors? I'm beginning to think they don't exist.

Link

27 posted on 09/05/2004 9:10:55 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Nepalis

Reckon this clown ever heard of Mecca and Medina? We could remind him.


28 posted on 09/05/2004 9:13:42 PM PDT by Waco
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To: Nepalis

Whatever god this “cleric” serves, is obviously not the God of Abraham whom they seem to claim as their father.

On the other hand Jesus, whom they at least acknowledge as a prophet, plainly said that fathers need to avoid even provoking their children and that if someone offends “ one of the little ones” it would have been “better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he were cast into the sea.” (Mar 9:42, Mt.18:6, Luke 17:2)

I suppose that the righteous thing to do is for Mothers to begin praying for God to prepare the “millstone events” for those who have designs on their children. It’s time for holy anger to make consequences obvious to those who harm the innocents including those who delude children into believing that to die for the purpose of killing others is upright or laudable.









29 posted on 09/05/2004 9:14:29 PM PDT by Spirited
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To: DuncanWaring

Because of our political correctness and "tolerance"


30 posted on 09/05/2004 9:16:18 PM PDT by expatguy (Fallujah Delenda Est!!)
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To: Nepalis

This guy needs to be disappeared.


31 posted on 09/05/2004 9:17:12 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Senator Kerry is all rice, no shrapnel.)
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To: germanicus

Moderate Muslims.... isn't that like smart liberals???


32 posted on 09/05/2004 9:29:28 PM PDT by Newton ("Government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem." -R. Reagan 1981)
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To: Nepalis
"It is an insult to most moderate Muslims..."

Really? All five of them?

33 posted on 09/05/2004 9:34:20 PM PDT by Prince Charles
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To: Nepalis

Freeper Supports Targeting extremist Islamic cleric.


34 posted on 09/05/2004 9:35:51 PM PDT by philetus (Zell Miller - One of the few)
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To: Newton
Moderate Muslims.... isn't that like smart liberals???

A rare breed, indeed.

35 posted on 09/05/2004 9:36:09 PM PDT by germanicus
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To: germanicus

ROFLMAO good one!


36 posted on 09/05/2004 9:41:36 PM PDT by Fast1
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To: Nepalis
He has since been given leave by the Home Office to remain in Britain for five years but the Government is reviewing his status.
Some brave Briton should review this person's status... with extreme prejudice.
37 posted on 09/05/2004 9:48:25 PM PDT by samtheman (www.georgewbush.com)
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To: FreeReign
From the article you linked:

"The fatwa was issued by the country's committee of Muslim scholars, or ulema. Although it had called for the release of reporters Georges Malbrunot and Christian Chesnot in the past, it had refused to condemn the kidnapping and execution of hostages from countries that backed the US invasion."

38 posted on 09/05/2004 9:59:53 PM PDT by Hat-Trick (Do you trust a government that cannot trust you with guns?)
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To: drhogan

Yes, your're right, the Iron Maiden would be so much better than an axe across the neck. I think in the Middle Ages the English practiced burning at the steak. That might deter some terrorists.


39 posted on 09/05/2004 10:02:37 PM PDT by rdl6989 (Kerry voted for the war before he voted against it?)
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To: Nepalis

Let a cleric in my neighborhood cop that tude, please.


40 posted on 09/05/2004 10:09:38 PM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: Nepalis

If terrorists did take over a school in Britain and killed a bunch of children, the British government would prosecute any Britons who attempted to defend the children, for attempting to deprive the terrorists of their civil rights.


41 posted on 09/05/2004 10:22:34 PM PDT by fire_eye ("Kill 'em. Kill 'em all." - Gen. Stonewall Jackson, CSA)
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To: Nepalis
"The Mujahideen [Chechen rebels] would not have wanted to kill those people, because it is strictly forbidden as a Muslim to deliberately kill women and children. It is the fault of the Russians," he said.

What a twisted piece of vermin. What good are hostages if you have no intention of killing them? The scum who took those children hostage had every intention of killing them. This blathering idiot knows it, but lies for the benefit of the liberal enabling media. The blood of those children is on the hands of the muslim garbage that took them hostage.

42 posted on 09/05/2004 10:30:43 PM PDT by AlaskaErik
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To: Nepalis

And they let this SOB creep walk the streets? It is a good thing he lives over in la la land, if next door to me, I would be his huckleberry in a heart beat


43 posted on 09/05/2004 10:51:31 PM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: DuncanWaring; windcliff

I agree. Using his "logic", why don't they just hang him. After all it wouldn't be the hangman's fault, it would be the ropes fault.


Perhaps he could be arrested. Seems like he is advocating a crime to me.


44 posted on 09/05/2004 11:15:25 PM PDT by I Drive Too Fast
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To: DuncanWaring

To get at the terrorist's we need to start at the 'HEAD'--
clerics and such


45 posted on 09/05/2004 11:16:14 PM PDT by jbz549
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To: All
Here is that terrorist .
46 posted on 09/05/2004 11:31:34 PM PDT by Nepalis
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To: Nepalis; All
Islam, a Religion of Peace® ? Click this picture:


47 posted on 09/06/2004 1:20:05 AM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the Trackball into the Sunset...)
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To: Nepalis
the Government is reviewing his status.

How long does it take to kick this nut out of the country? He's been running his mouth for quite some time now. Tptb in England must have a death wish.

48 posted on 09/06/2004 1:27:22 AM PDT by dougherty (I saw the angel in the marble and carved until I set him free. - Michelangelo)
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To: backhoe

Thank you for that link .


49 posted on 09/06/2004 2:41:35 AM PDT by Nepalis
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To: Nepalis
"It is an insult to most moderate Muslims, who are sick of people like this claiming to represent them."

One problem is that since the cleric condones the murder of innocent women and children caught in a crossfire, ...he IS a moderate Muslim.

50 posted on 09/06/2004 2:46:54 AM PDT by Cvengr (;^))
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