Skip to comments.There's Something Going On in GOP vs. MediaCrats
Posted on 09/06/2004 5:00:06 AM PDT by Timeout
Even before Zell Miller jumped Chris Matthews last week, I noticed something had changed. During the entire week, when an interviewer colored a question with anti-GOP shiboleths, the person being interviewed shot it down...aggressively.
I believe Karl Rove and gang perceives a wounded enemy after the damage the MediaCrats did to themselves over the Swifty story. The blogoshpere whipped their a$$ in that case.
I think the turning point was the Michelle Malkin interview on Hardball. It was such a grand display of the left's rhetorical trick of twisting what a conservative says and mistating their position over and over and over. Michelle was caught flat-footed by it...she should have directly challenged Chris's misquote. I think the Bushies said "never again". Note that Zell Miller, in his tirade against Matthews, referred back to the Malkin case.
It appears to me that, after the Malkin ambush, Rove and company decided it was time to smash the media's biased concept of conservatives. I believe the talking points must have gone out...don't take it anymore. Slap 'em when they preface a question with some insult to conservatives. When David Gergen tried the old trick of tying Zell to southern racists, Laura Ingraham jumped on him like a junkyard dog and forced him to retreat.
It happened time and again last week...conservatives refusing to move on until the host retracted some implication that the GOP is mean, heartless, racist, etc. This is new to me. Did anyone else notice it?
He's such a loony case. The more he talks, the further south his numbers go.
I did notice that the GOP felt free to openly criticize the media in their speeches - Guliani talked about Bush standing up in the face of media criticism; Bush's dig about the NY Times' report on post-war Germany; "Maybe that person is now writing editorials."
I thought it worked well.
Not only are they wrong, but they are so pompous and haughtily project an "intellectually" superior condescending attitude!
Think of The Maltese Falcon where 'Bogie grabs Joel Cairo(the effeminate wuss played by Peter Lorre) by the collar and cuffs him. Lorre bleats, I told you nevvver to touch meeee! and 'Bogie says 'sumpin like, I'll slap 'ya and you'll take it!
It makes for great film-noir!
That pretty well descibes how Gergen looked after Laura Ingraham got thru with him. She slapped him down til he looked like a dog being washed.
Which reminds me: Every time Gergen says Zell Miller should just go ahead and declare he's a Republican, somebody should say to Gergen, "Well, why don't YOU just go ahead and declare you're a Demcocrat?!"
It is my hope that the Pubbies that are taking the bull(sh*t media) by the horns are doing so because they have sprouted a set of their own - not because they are under the direction from Mister Big (Rove).
It is telling that while the net, talk radio, FR, the blogs and all of the rest of alternative media information streams have been breaking story after story and winning new converts in a modern and informed grass-roots war, our political betters have been so retarded in reacting to such a clear and obvious problem as monolithic media bias. It is also telling (or damning) that this 'fight-back' sea change, if it really is permanent within party ranks, was precipitated, not by a Republican, but by a Democrat - Senator Miller.
Miller resonated because he spoke to us - the people that have made this revolution happen - NOT because he said the politically expedient things that scripted party animals do. He voiced MY rage at the media bias. He shouted about MY anger over the lying duplicity of JF'ingK's campaign and record. In short, Mr. Miller spoke MY thoughts out loud and showed to me that I was right. Millions of us that have sought information and solace from each other in mutual political commiseration know this to be the case.
If what is happening in the response tactics to media bullying and lying is part of Rove's uber-genius policies, then I would say he is a day late and a dollar short. This is something that should have been done long ago - and would have been - if we had a seriously real crop of statesmen instead of political operatives.
Mr. Rove's abilities aside, I believe far too much credit is taken for the clean and righteous actions of a few and the groundswell of support from millions of mute voices back home. In my opinion, a fine example was the 1994 backlash against the RAT treason going on in the White House. Pro-2A people and anti-abortion folks tirelessly fought the krinton occupation and woke many, many of their neighbors from their deep slumber. As usual, the reigning political genius of that time, Newt Gingrich, took full credit for the November vote and spun it into an endorsement for his agenda. Hogwash. The vote in 1996 showed that this wasn't so because many recently activated voters just stayed home.
Now, I'll give credit where credit is due, too. When President Bush carried his copy of Bernard Goldberg's 'Bias' into the presidential helicopter with the cover face exposed and visible to the eye and camera lenses, I was thrilled. Of course, the media screamed about the slight. In my world, my next step would have been to put projections of the complaining journalists articles up on a screen at the next press conference and demand from the offending press members why the hell they wanted to abolish free speech and why they objected to the President keeping himself informed.
In the future, it would be wise for Republicans to sprout a set of their own and do what is right - forcefully if necessary - instead of waiting for a green light from the bowels of the White House.
Well, that's my 0.02 worth anyway.
She tried, several times. He kept talking over her and wouldn't let her speak. I'm glad Zell called him, at least twice, on his browbeating of Michelle. Conservatives generally don't like men beating up on and bullying women.
"We are mad as 'Zell!'"
What a fantastic line! May I steal it?
I noticed it, but didn't think it through. I believe you have a point. I hope you are correct.
Franken got into it with Laura Ingrahm's producer. For more photos:
Maybe between the Swift Vets and the convention, the Republicans are finding a backbone, but I think you may have a point about them seeing the vulnerable state of the DNC's media lapdogs and they are emboldened by it. Add to that the recognition that this is a critical election. We cannot afford to give Kerry the presidency to add to his list of fraudulently claimed honors. We are not willing to sacrifice our families and our future to this man's ego.
Sure, I proudly stole it myself!
I agree with everything you said. But my point is that I think there's been a change in STRATEGY, not just in tactics.
Ever since Clinton, the obvious conventional wisdom has been that you ignore an interviewer's questions and simply lay out your previously prepared talking points. Conservatives have suddenly turned that CW on its head. Last week they were very specifically paying attention to the question...and then throwing it back in the asker's face. It happened too often to be a coincidence.
I don't care if it was Karl Rove or Zell Miller who came up with the strategy. All I'm saying is it's a good one and it spread too fast to be accidental.
Makes me wonder if maybe someone's been showing old Lee Atwater footage at strategy sessions. Now THERE was a mongrel dog of a campaigner.!
First, they throw personal attacks and a pack of lies at their critics.
Let's hope the success contines...
I changed jobs back at the beginning of the summer. In my previous job, I worked with a lot of people who were very vocal in their opposition to the president (I didn't hear any of them complaining about their tax rebates though, or the increase in the child credits), some of whom thought the sun rose and set on Bill Clinton. Most knew that I supported the president and even that I'd been one of the people who protested Hillary when she was on her Lying History tour. It wasn't addressed too much. As you might expect, these were not the sharpest tools in the shed.
On my new job, I have made several off-handed and politically incorrect remarks, and had no sense of being inappropriate at all. I have also discussed some conservative issues, without putting a political face on them, and have found mostly agreement. On a few occasions, I've been unable to resist throwing a shot at Kerry or Clinton or praising the president for his handling of the war. Again, no sense of having crossed any line. Even though by policy, we're not allowed to promote any political party in the workplace, I do get the feeling that I'm among conservatives, for the most part. It's a nice change. Outside of work, I make no secret about where I stand, either. In fact, I think I might take a ride down to the Republican headquarters here this morning and see if they're open for business. I need some yard signs.
Excellent observation which I agree with one hundred percent. About time the conservatives stood up to the biased media; and just like a playground bully, they retreat when confronted. Hope to see more of it.
Great posts! I'm curious to know how many votes Kerry missed in the US Senate. I understand he missed many votes and would like to know the exact figures. Do you know where that information can be found or if it has be compiled?
Liberals are as unacquainted with etiquette as they are with propriety and truth. Expecting appropriate behavior from a liberal is like expecting a pig to curtsy. (Actually, a pig can be taught to curtsy).
You have summed up their "policy" accurately. Not only does it not help, it has been observed that it almost always makes things worse.
But it may take more than one hand and a few decades...
And for once, it isn't ours.
The MSM commies are now hard at work trying to resurrect the Bush service records story.
I didn't realize that a little rice in the butt was life-threatening.
"That pretty well descibes how Gergen looked after Laura Ingraham got thru with him."
Gergen is a snake. A soft spoken snake...but still a snake.
Thanks! I really want to see an overall count of how many votes he missed each year during his career as a US Senator. I'm sure his record is dismal, but would love to know if his absenteeism is considered "chronic".
I think Malkin was the catalyst. I'm glad Sissy did what he did and with someone who looks so sweet and innocent. We know she's tough and can take care of herself if she isn't ambushed so it looked like the mean, old ogre picking on Tinkerbell.
That's a perfect example of the beauty of the new conservative strategy. The minute the MediaCrats open their beaks about Bush's Guard service, conservatives can slam them for their unbalanced coverage of Kerry's record vs. Bush's. The Media Research Center keeps statistics on how many stories they ran on the old charges against Bush vs. the timid reception they gave to the huge Swifty story.
For the first time in my life I think (hope) pubbies have the high ground against the media. The media's treatment of the Swiftys opened a lot of people's eyes. And the best part of all is that the media is still kidding itself that it sets the agenda. That blindness will be their downfall.
In Rules for Radicals Saul Alinsky writes the most important tactic for the "Have-Nots" in bringing down the "Haves" is to do the things they will not do - to use their moral strength against them.
This battle is not about policy or war or the direction of the country - it is about bringing down those who currently have power - the Republicans.
We shun the lie - we present the truth and facts and expect others to accept that we have "proven" we are right, and to back down.
Thus the Democrats use lie and innuendo to shift the focus away from the facts.
We will, naturally, eventually, repsond by elevating the negative tone of our attacks.
The Radical will, immediately, act aggrieved and claim the higher ground.
Does, "I will not have my Vietnam Service to my country questioned," sound familiar?
Just so you know what is coming, Hillary wrote her college thesis on the life and work of Saul Alinsky.
It is that Hegelian Dielectic. Thesis, Antithesis, Synthesis.
Liberal Media: You're a racist!
Trent Lott: No I'm Not.
Liberal Media: You're a racist! You're a racist! You're a racist! You're a racist! You're a racist!
Trent Lott: Well, I'm really not, but since you're so adamant about it, I'll step down and spend more time on civil rights matters.
Liberal Media: See? He's a racist.
Your idea has merit. The media is funded by advertisers, and businesses which pay for advertising are not in the business of alienating their customer base. Even a handful of letters written to the sponsors would have a tremendous impact. Watch how fast the liberal "news" commentators clean up their acts when their funding is being threatened.
I say, forget about Kerry's war records, medals, and references to 1970. I think the Republicans need to concentrate on his Senate record, and especially the last 10 years. If the Republicans can shape the dialog to 1990 and later, Kerry has nothing to talk about. When Kerry starts in again about his past exploits in uniform, ignore him. What can he say?
I remember in the hey day of CNN, Judy Woodruff and Bernard whatisname used to preface a leftist charge in their questioning with "Some say...(you haven't stopped beatin your wife).
How I wanted ONE Republican to stop them and say: "Just who are these people making this charge. Name them so the public will know and can make a judgement."
I agree that it is Kerry's Senate record that is the most difficult to defend. The votes, or lack thereof, are in black and white. That is why Kerry wanted "War Hero" to be the theme of his campaign. "War Hero" is not as easily defined. Nonetheless, it is the hypocrisy of the left when questioning the President's role in the Vietnam War, and NOT Kerry's that has me nuts, especially their outright disdain for the Swift Vets, who are our true heroes. Bring the battle to the 90's absolutely, but we cannot forget the past, because what John Kerry did when he came back from Vietnam constitutes treason, not to mention out right lies, and the torture endured by our POW's because of John Kerry. "When Kerry starts in again about his past exploits in uniform, ignore him. What can he say?" He can say sorry. GO SWIFT VETS GO, YOU GUYS ARE AWESOME!!!!
KERRY RECORD PING - A MUST READ!!
KERRY RECORD PING - A MUST READ!!
**During the entire week, when an interviewer colored a question with anti-GOP shiboleths, the person being interviewed shot it down...aggressively.**
I think your timing is right on.
Yea, I noticed it, too. I think Rove has calculated that there is enough alternative media out there now that conservatives don't have to be blackmailed anymore for access. That's how they did it in the past; if you challenged them they would simply deny you access in the future. That is the calculus by which it was done in the past. But the formula has changed now and the MSM knows it. I'd say it is a good move by Rove because the MSM has indeed lost the 'access game card'.
Yes we do.!
Nine trillion spent since the implementation of Johnsons "Great Society" and the rats are still using the same issues. We should be throwing it right back in their faces.