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American Muslim Leaders Rally Community
Associated Press ^ | Sep. 06, 2004 | RACHEL ZOLL

Posted on 09/06/2004 7:00:33 AM PDT by Dubya

ROSEMONT, Ill. - American Muslim leaders ended their largest annual meeting with a rousing plea to thousands of community members that they vote in the presidential election.

Muslims urgently want to register their political presence in this country as a step toward ending what many believe are excesses in the war on terror.

"We have to demand justice," said Mahdi Bray, head of the Muslim American Society Freedom Foundation, as the convention wound down Sunday night. "We have to stand up to this government and say, `What you're doing is wrong.'"

The American Muslim Taskforce, an umbrella group for top U.S. Muslim organizations, met behind closed doors separately from the weekend conference, deliberating whether to make an endorsement in the race.

Both Democrats and Republicans are seeking their support.

American Muslims hold special importance this election year because they have strong communities in battleground states such as Michigan, Ohio and Florida. Also, immigrant Muslims tend to be educated professionals - an attractive demographic for both parties.

Despite bitter feelings over how President Bush has conducted the war on terror, Muslim leaders said an endorsement for his challenger, Democratic Sen. John Kerry, was not guaranteed. Independent Ralph Nader traveled here Saturday and made an aggressive pitch for their backing.

A decision is expected by next month.

In 2000, leaders of major Muslim organizations made their first endorsement in a presidential race, choosing Bush over Democrat Al Gore. The Texas governor had indicated he was sympathetic to their concerns about the use of secret evidence in immigration hearings.

However, many rank-and-file Muslims - especially U.S.-born blacks, who vote overwhelmingly Democratic - opposed that 2000 decision. After the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, and the anti-terror policies that followed, the Muslim leaders who had organized the Bush endorsement said openly they had made a mistake.

Still, Bush did not give up on the Muslim vote.

About a year ago, the Bush administration had increased contacts with Muslim leaders, inviting them for briefings with the Department of Justice and the White House faith-based office, among other gestures, according to Salam al-Marayati, head of the Muslim Public Affairs Council.

But Bush appears to have little chance of winning the leaders' endorsement, given widespread anger over terror prevention laws the president insists are critical to national security.

Nader, in an interview, said he alone was addressing Muslim issues.

"We are the only ones who are speaking up on Israel, the Palestinians, civil liberties and malicious prosecution," he said. But many Muslim leaders have argued that voting for Nader would just end up helping Bush.

Regarding Kerry, some Muslim leaders say his campaign has missed opportunities to capitalize on Muslim resentment of the president.

At the convention this weekend, organized by the nonpartisan Islamic Society of North America, several speakers said Kerry had become too timid on civil rights issues. They said his pledge on repealing parts of the USA Patriot Act, which gave the government broad new powers to monitor citizens, did not go far enough.

"Please improve your position," said Agha Saeed, head of the task force, in a plea to Kerry at the convention's closing rally. "Only then can we talk to you."

Others complained that high-level Kerry staff have been slow to reach out to Muslim leaders. However, Aslam Abdullah, editor of Minaret magazine, who is helping organize Muslim support for Kerry, said those leaders were thinking too narrowly.

"It is not whether Bush meets with Muslims or whether Kerry meets with Muslims," he said in a phone interview. "The question is who is more capable of steering the country out of the trouble it is in?"

Whatever the task force decision, it is not clear that they can deliver the Muslim vote. They have sponsored voter registration drives and "town hall" meetings about the election nationwide, but many American Muslims are not affiliated with national Muslim organizations and may not be influenced by an endorsement.

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1 posted on 09/06/2004 7:00:34 AM PDT by Dubya
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To: Dubya
"We have to demand justice," said Mahdi Bray

That's what this is all about, nitwit. Justice.

2 posted on 09/06/2004 7:01:52 AM PDT by Angry Enough
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To: Dubya

By the way, is there some sinister connection with this man's last name and John Kerry? ("Bray." Hmmm......)


3 posted on 09/06/2004 7:03:01 AM PDT by Angry Enough
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To: Dubya; All
Islam, a Religion of Peace® ? Click this picture:


4 posted on 09/06/2004 7:03:18 AM PDT by backhoe
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To: Dubya

"We have to stand up to this government and say, `What you're doing is wrong.'"

And what the terrorists in Iraq and Russia are doing is no doubt just fine.


5 posted on 09/06/2004 7:03:24 AM PDT by Arkie2
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To: Dubya
Massacre in Beslan In the name of Allah the merciful and the kind Why not call a spade a spade?

Bring it on!

6 posted on 09/06/2004 7:03:37 AM PDT by SubMareener
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To: Dubya

Maybe it's time that the entire government stands up to the Muslim community and says, you're wrong.


7 posted on 09/06/2004 7:03:38 AM PDT by tkathy (There will be no world peace until all thuggocracies are gone from the earth.)
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To: Dubya

Hows about standing up against beslan!

What a POS


8 posted on 09/06/2004 7:04:44 AM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: Angry Enough

These people aren't to concerned with events in Russia and bustops in Israel.


9 posted on 09/06/2004 7:04:47 AM PDT by Dallas59
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To: tkathy

According to the Constitution, WE ARE the government.


10 posted on 09/06/2004 7:05:06 AM PDT by Pete'sWife (Dirt is for racing... asphalt is for getting there.)
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To: Dubya

We were not the ones who started these senseless killings but we are the ones who are going to put a stop to it by killing or capturing those who are responsible. Either you are with us or you are against us. These so called peacefull Muslims are against us.


11 posted on 09/06/2004 7:05:24 AM PDT by Piquaboy
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To: Dubya

They don't like the fact we are against Islamic terrorism? Shocking.


12 posted on 09/06/2004 7:05:32 AM PDT by PersonalLiberties (An honest politician is one who, when he's bought, stays bought. -Simon Cameron, political boss)
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To: Dubya

They are clueless. I am convinced that if Islam were a person, he'd be a psychopathic serial killer.


13 posted on 09/06/2004 7:07:17 AM PDT by GBA
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To: Dubya

Muslums are on the pathway to being the most hated peoples on earth.


14 posted on 09/06/2004 7:07:40 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Liberalism has developed a dangerous neurosis that threatens the nations security)
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To: Dubya

I personally think it would be effective for Bush to speak to world wide Islam and put it to them: "What do you want for your children? Murder and hatred and self destruction or a future of hope and accomplishment? Tell them it's time to stop the slaughter."


15 posted on 09/06/2004 7:08:22 AM PDT by tkathy (There will be no world peace until all thuggocracies are gone from the earth.)
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To: Dubya
Both Democrats and Republicans are seeking their support

I can understand that match between Democrats and Muslims, but Replublicans? Personally, I want them out of my country. If they can't tell right from wrong, good from evil then it is clear they are part of the problem. I guess that is what you get when you worship a pedophile prophet.

16 posted on 09/06/2004 7:08:24 AM PDT by PattonReincarnated (Rebuild the Temple)
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To: Dubya
Muslims urgently want to register their political presence in this country as a step toward ending what many believe are excesses in the war on terror.

Excesses in the war on terror? Tell that to those kids who were bayonetted and shot in that school in southern russia a few days ago.

"We have to demand justice," said Mahdi Bray, head of the Muslim American Society Freedom Foundation, as the convention wound down Sunday night. "We have to stand up to this government and say, `What you're doing is wrong.'"

How much justice did those three thousand people get in the world trade center?

Islam is not a religion. It is a psychopathc mental illness. When you "moderate" moslems come out and squarely denounce your fellow terrorists we may start to listen to you.

17 posted on 09/06/2004 7:08:45 AM PDT by glockmeister40
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To: Dubya
"We have to demand justice," said Mahdi Bray, head of the Muslim American Society Freedom Foundation, as the convention wound down Sunday night. "We have to stand up to this government and say, `What you're doing is wrong.'"

No first do this "We have to decry the crimes falsely committed in the name of Islam," said Mahdi Bray, head of the Muslim American Society Freedom Foundation, as the convention wound down Sunday night. "We have to stand up for this government and say, `What terrorists are doing in the name of Islam is wrong.'" Do that Loudly, Nationally and often coupled with turning any in your community that support terrorism and THEN you'll only have to ask once and softly at that.

18 posted on 09/06/2004 7:09:42 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: Dubya
I didn't see one specific about how anyone has been mistreated by the Patriot Act, and I didn't see one word of condemnation of the acts at Beslan. I think we know where their loyalties lie now, don't we?
19 posted on 09/06/2004 7:09:53 AM PDT by Uncle Vlad
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To: Dubya

..."... "The question is who is more capable of steering the country out of the trouble it is in?"...

(Translation); "The question is who is more willing to kiss Muslim @ss?"


20 posted on 09/06/2004 7:10:08 AM PDT by jolie560
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To: Dubya
"Please improve your position," said Agha Saeed, head of the task force, in a plea to Kerry at the convention's closing rally. "Only then can we talk to you." I think what he is saying here is: "Mr Kerry change your position and we'll endorse you." That's no problem. He changes his position on everything. The term "political whore" comes to mind.
21 posted on 09/06/2004 7:12:02 AM PDT by no dems (I'm mad as Zell.)
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To: Dubya

More misinformation double speak rhetoric from our domestic islamic terror funding mills.


22 posted on 09/06/2004 7:12:24 AM PDT by TADSLOS (Right Wing Infidel since 1954)
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To: Dubya

Could there be a more stunning demonstration of the danger posed by massive immigration from Third World countries, without the traditional reverence for American values?


23 posted on 09/06/2004 7:12:25 AM PDT by Williams
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To: Dubya
Personally, about time the U.S. experiences a school hijacking in the manner of the one last week in Russia, I would demand internment of Islamic residents and expulsion of all Islamic resident alien, student and other guest visa holders. Islamists are the ones who have been doing terror here and around the world, not white Evangelical Christians, Methodists, Baptists, Catholics etc. We are in a war to the finish against fundamentalist Islam.

Just my humble opinion.

24 posted on 09/06/2004 7:12:58 AM PDT by Lion Den Dan
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To: Dubya

Ishaq:550 “The Muslims met them with their swords. They cut through many arms and skulls. Only confused cries and groans could be heard over our battle roars and snarling.”


25 posted on 09/06/2004 7:13:26 AM PDT by OK
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To: TADSLOS

I have boycotted Muslim owned businesses since 9/11. It might be time to call for a National Boycott of these "fronts" for supporting radical Islamic terrorists.


26 posted on 09/06/2004 7:14:00 AM PDT by no dems (I'm mad as Zell.)
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To: Uncle Vlad
Yes!

This makes me so angry.

27 posted on 09/06/2004 7:15:03 AM PDT by ncpatriot
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Tabari VIII:96 “A raiding party led by Zayd set out against Umm in Ramadan. During it, Umm suffered a cruel death. Zyad tied her legs with rope and then tied her between two camels until they split her in two. She was a very old woman. Then they brought Umm’s daughter and Abdallah to the Messenger. Umm’s daughter belonged to Salamah who had captured her. Muhammad asked Salamah for her, and Salamah gave her to him.”


28 posted on 09/06/2004 7:16:26 AM PDT by OK
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To: Lion Den Dan

I understand your sentiments. THIS ARTICLE HAS MADE ME ANGRIER THAN I HAVE BEEN IN A LONG TIME. I think it's time to do two things:

#1. Reach out to the Jewish community and say: "Do you want to support the same man for President that Muslims who are sympathetic with Radical Islamic terrorists support?

#2. Call for a national boycott of all Muslim businesses and drive their asses back to wherever they came from.


29 posted on 09/06/2004 7:20:25 AM PDT by no dems (I'm mad as Zell and I'm not taking it any more.)
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To: Dubya; Eaker; habs4ever; Ditter; shaggy eel; dorben; Son of Rooster; Tennessee_Bob; Cyrano; ...
DID YOU READ THIS?

I find this very interesting when you read this thread's article alongside the one I just linked to there. HMMMMM!!!

Back to my mantras...

ohmmmmmmm.....ohhmmmmm.... Islam is a peaceful and loving religion... ohhmmmmm.....

30 posted on 09/06/2004 7:21:00 AM PDT by Terriergal (""Woe to you...Blind guides, who strain out a gnat and swallow a camel!"Matthew 23:23a,24)
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To: All
We Freepers need to get out the Republican vote and stay with it and not let up.
Between now and election day no one should post anything negative about the President.
This is not the time for it.

31 posted on 09/06/2004 7:23:35 AM PDT by Dubya (Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father,but by me)
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To: Dubya
A decision is expected by next month.

Would Mr. Bray be so kind as to publish the names of those making the decision?

5.56mm

32 posted on 09/06/2004 7:24:52 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: Dubya
"We have to demand justice," said Mahdi Bray"

Don't be in such a hurry for justice my friend, Many of us would like to deliver justice to the whole muslim community. Beslan is still very fresh in peoples' minds and the muslim community doesn't look too good right now.

Baby killers!!!

33 posted on 09/06/2004 7:29:11 AM PDT by muir_redwoods
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To: Terriergal

I can say with 100% certainty that these people will support Barack Obama over Alan Keyes in the Illinois Senate race.

CAIR and Co. hate the good Doc with a purple passion.

The Republican hacks who have been playing footsy with them lo these many years, primarily in the pursuit of campaign cash, should be ashamed...and they would be ashamed if they had any shame.


34 posted on 09/06/2004 7:29:49 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (The Butchers of Beslan will burn in hell for eternity.)
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To: GBA
They are clueless. I am convinced that if Islam were a person, he'd be a psychopathic serial killer.

About four or five years ago in an article published in Chronicles magazine, writer Serge Trifkovic observed that Mohammed was part John Gotti, part Charles Manson -- in other words, a psychopathic serial killer. What's worse, Mohammed is considered the beau ideal model of humanity for all time, which means that the ideal human being is a psychopathic serial killer Muslim. Explains a great deal, doesn't it?

35 posted on 09/06/2004 7:31:22 AM PDT by Siamese Princess
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To: Dubya
"We have to stand up to this government and say, `What you're doing is wrong.'"

I'll be more impressed when you stand up to your radical brothers and tell them the same thing.

36 posted on 09/06/2004 7:32:11 AM PDT by Tennessee_Bob (Come on you sons of bitches! Do you want to live forever?)
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To: no dems
I have boycotted Muslim owned businesses since 9/11. It might be time to call for a National Boycott of these "fronts" for supporting radical Islamic terrorists.

I've done the same thing -- I no longer patronize a Pakistani-owned convenience store a short walk from where I live, and avoid 7-11 and Dunkin'Donuts, which are very frequently owned by Arabs or Pakistanis. The Quik-Checks here in northern NJ are refreshingly free of middle eastern employees so I buy my paper and coffee from them. I also purchase my gas from either BP or Sunoco -- non-Saudi oil.

37 posted on 09/06/2004 7:36:08 AM PDT by Siamese Princess
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To: Dubya
Dear offended American Muslims, I got your "justice" right here.

Where was your big rally to decry and condemn the slaughter of more than 3,000 innocents on 9/11/01? Where was your demand for justice in finding Osama Bin Laden and hanging his ass?

Where was your pledge of support to assist in every way in tracking down and destroying barbarians behind this savagery?

You want justice? Be careful what you seek. You came to the wrong country if you call Christians infidels. You may get a lot more justice than you asked for.

38 posted on 09/06/2004 7:36:57 AM PDT by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: GBA
They are clueless. I am convinced that if Islam were a person, he'd be a psychopathic serial killer.

Exactly like its founder was.

39 posted on 09/06/2004 7:51:22 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine (Beslan -- the true face of Islam.)
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority

Using both hands NoControllingLegalAuthority says...


"Dear offended American Muslims, I got your "justice" right here."


40 posted on 09/06/2004 7:55:27 AM PDT by TexasTransplant (I made my Fortune selling Sugar Coated Cat Turds on a Stick at the DNC Convention)
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To: Dubya
Regarding Kerry, some Muslim leaders say his campaign has missed opportunities to capitalize on Muslim resentment of the president.

The more Muslims resent this President, the more support he will get from non-Muslims.

"Muslims" around the world are blowing up innocent people and shooting school-children in the back. The best thing these groups in the US can do is proclaim continuously and loudly and without reservation that they condemn the terrorists that have supposedly "hijacked their religion". Whining about supposed infringements on their civil liberties is not buying them any support.

41 posted on 09/06/2004 8:07:48 AM PDT by spodefly (I've posted nothing but BTTT over 1000 times!!!)
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To: Siamese Princess

Good for you. Bill O'Reilly's call for a boycott of all French products has definitely hurt France's economy. What are the chances he would call for a boycott of all Muslim owned businesses in America? About the same as that provebial snowball in hell. Ratings take preeminence over morality, even on Fox News probably.


42 posted on 09/06/2004 8:13:12 AM PDT by no dems (I'm mad as Zell and I'm not taking it any more.)
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To: Angry Enough

Bray=Jackass=DNC=John Finocchio Kerry.


43 posted on 09/06/2004 8:21:17 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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To: Angry Enough

Bray=Jackass=DNC=John Finocchio Kerry.


44 posted on 09/06/2004 8:21:17 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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To: Dubya

"excesses on the war on terror"

I don't hearing them saying that there was any "excessive" violence by their brethern who murdered all those children.


45 posted on 09/06/2004 8:24:39 AM PDT by freeangel (freeangel)
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To: Dubya

If things keep going on the present track ... Muslims won't be voting at all soon due to the fact that fellons are not allowed to vote.


46 posted on 09/06/2004 8:28:29 AM PDT by mercy
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To: tkathy
Maybe it's time that the entire government stands up to the Muslim community and says, you're wrong.

More than that is needed, the entire country must stand up, not just the government.

47 posted on 09/06/2004 8:48:44 AM PDT by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: Lion Den Dan
not white Evangelical Christians, Methodists, Baptists, Catholics etc

Nor African Methodist Episcopalians, Hassidic Jews, Amish, Korean or Chinese Baptists, Vietnamese Catholics or Buddists, Shiks, Japanes Shintos nor Indian Hindus.

48 posted on 09/06/2004 9:00:34 AM PDT by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: Happy2BMe

ping


49 posted on 09/06/2004 9:48:22 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Truth goes through three stages, ridiculed, violently opposed, then accepted as self-evident)
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To: PersonalLiberties

I don't care how they vote. We don't need to change our policies. I think it's these people who need to change.


50 posted on 09/06/2004 10:09:24 AM PDT by virgil
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