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Kerry vows to withdraw troops from Iraq
Reuters ^ | Mon 6 September, 2004 | Patricia Wilson

Posted on 09/06/2004 10:09:59 AM PDT by yonif

CANONSBURG, Pennsylvania (Reuters) - Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry has called the invasion of Iraq "the wrong war in the wrong place at the wrong time" and said his goal was to withdraw U.S. troops in his first White House term.

Under pressure from some Democrats to change the subject from national security -- regarded by many as President George W. Bush's strongest issue -- Kerry tried to focus exclusively on the economy and other domestic topics at a neighbourhood meeting but supporters raised Iraq.

The Massachusetts senator, who has said he would have voted to give Bush the authority to use force if necessary against Iraq even if he had known at the time that Saddam Hussein had no weapons of mass destruction, has struggled to draw clear contrasts with the president.

"I would not have done just one thing differently than the president on Iraq, I would have done everything differently than the president on Iraq," Kerry said on Monday.

He denied that he was "Monday morning quarterbacking."

"I said this from the beginning of the debate to the walk up to the war. I said, Mr. President don't rush to war, take the time to build a legitimate coalition and have a plan to win the peace."

Kerry said Bush had failed on all three counts. He called the president's talk about a coalition fighting alongside about 125,000 U.S. troops "the phoniest thing I've ever heard."

"You've about 500 troops here, 500 troops there and it's American troops that are 90 percent of the combat casualties and it's American taxpayers that are paying 90 percent of the cost of the war," he said. "It's the wrong war, in the wrong place at the wrong time."

GETTING OUT OF IRAQ

Kerry, like Bush, promised that the United States would stay the course in Iraq until the country is secure, saying: "We have to do what we need to do to get out and do it right."

He pledged to internationalise the forces in Iraq and do a better job of fighting "a more effective, smarter" war on terror that he said would actually make Americans safer.

Although he declined to set a precise timetable for pulling out U.S. troops, Kerry said it would be possible if certain conditions were met, such as bringing allies to the table to help with security and reconstruction.

He also said Washington should make it clear to the world that the United States had no "long-term designs to maintain bases and troops in Iraq.

"We want those troops home and my goal would be to try to get them home in my first term and I believe that can be done," he said.

If Kerry were to beat Bush in the November 2 presidential election, his first four-year term would end in January 2009.

Kicking off a Labour Day offensive in three crucial battleground states -- Pennsylvania, West Virginia and Ohio -- Kerry focused on pocketbook issues as he tried to reinvigorate his campaign after new polls showed him trailing Bush by double digits.

On the front porch of Dale and Jody Rhome's house in Canonsburg, he assailed the president's economic policies and said if Americans wanted four more years of losing jobs and health care "then you ought to go vote for George Bush."


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aidandcomfort; aidingandabetting; girlieman; iraq; kerry; kerryforeignpolicy; kerryiraq; patheticclown; sitzpinkler; sitzpinklerkerry; traitor; troops; wrongman
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1 posted on 09/06/2004 10:10:00 AM PDT by yonif
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To: yonif

Kerry sounds like the "wrong" candidate. We are at war. This is no time to change Presidents.


2 posted on 09/06/2004 10:12:28 AM PDT by etradervic (Kerry is a Left-Wing Dinosaur)
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To: yonif

Sen. Spitball continues to provide aid and comfort to the enemy.


3 posted on 09/06/2004 10:12:57 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all)
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To: yonif
Desperado,Why Don't you come to your senses........
4 posted on 09/06/2004 10:13:15 AM PDT by cmsgop ( Bong Hits, Fraggle Rock Reruns and DU is no way to go through Life..........)
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To: yonif
Oh yeah this will play well. He knows that he has been labeled a flip-flopper yet he still refuses to take a stand on anything. Does he really think being a flopper will not hurt him?
5 posted on 09/06/2004 10:14:03 AM PDT by KJacob (God's purpose is never the same as man's purpose.)
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To: yonif
He [Kerry]pledged to internationalise the forces in Iraq and do a better job of fighting "a more effective, smarter" war on terror...

I see Kerry's handlers had him drop the sensitive part. I guess it didn't play well in Poughkeepsie.

5.56mm

6 posted on 09/06/2004 10:14:57 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: yonif

Looks like the Clinton trojan horses (Kerry's new "help") have started to "work".


7 posted on 09/06/2004 10:15:06 AM PDT by isthisnickcool (If it's followers kill children it isn't a religion!)
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To: yonif
"the wrong war in the wrong place at the wrong time"

Egads....this idiot lives and dies by the slogan. What a nonsensical statement.

8 posted on 09/06/2004 10:15:18 AM PDT by EggsAckley (.......John Kerry suffers from delusions of adequacy........)
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To: yonif

9 posted on 09/06/2004 10:15:57 AM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: yonif
"I said, Mr. President don't rush to war"

Messing around with the UN for 7 months (while Saddam successfully hid his WMD) is "rushing?"

10 posted on 09/06/2004 10:16:13 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: yonif

Of course, by saying he would have done EVERYTHING differently, he avoids having to come up with anything he would have done differently.


11 posted on 09/06/2004 10:16:33 AM PDT by maro (T)
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To: yonif

Talk about a flip flop.

So he was against the war, then for it...and now against it again?


12 posted on 09/06/2004 10:16:57 AM PDT by swilhelm73 (There is no safety for honest men but by believing all possible evil of evil men. --Burke)
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To: yonif

"...it's American troops that are 90 percent of the combat casualties and it's American taxpayers that are paying 90 percent of the cost of the war," he said."

Is he describing Iraq or the UN?


13 posted on 09/06/2004 10:17:33 AM PDT by WestTexasWend
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To: etradervic

The wrong candidate at the wrong place at the wrong time. Not that there is a right time for this candidate.


14 posted on 09/06/2004 10:17:38 AM PDT by formercalifornian (Democrat platform: Hate, hate, hate, hate, tolerance, hate, hate, hate, hate)
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To: yonif

The headline should have been "Kerry promises to surrender in Iraq."


15 posted on 09/06/2004 10:17:52 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: yonif

Well, at least he's finally taking a clear, coherent stand on the issue. He's dead wrong, of course, but he is providing voters with a choice.


16 posted on 09/06/2004 10:17:53 AM PDT by HarryCaul
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To: Texas Eagle
Sen. Spitball

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!....Thanks! Got a spare keyboard and monitor I can have?...BWAHAHAHAHA!

FMCDH(BITS)

17 posted on 09/06/2004 10:18:55 AM PDT by nothingnew (KERRY: "If at first you don't deceive, lie, lie again!")
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To: yonif

I got "Unfit For Command" on Friday -- it is devastating to Kerry. Well written and a definitive account of just who he is - the exact opposite of what he portrays himself to be. We cannot elect John Kerry. We should be trying him for treason.


18 posted on 09/06/2004 10:19:15 AM PDT by Endeavor
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To: yonif

Kerry has secured the "HATE AMERICA" vote.


19 posted on 09/06/2004 10:19:16 AM PDT by airborne (2/504 PIR - 'Devils In Baggy Pants')
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To: All

Talk about encouraging the insurgents. 7 marines died in Iraq today. More talk like this from Kerry and it can be seven a day from now until the election. He is truly despicable. He is beyond loathsome. He betrayed his brothers in 'Nam. Now he's doing the same to our boys in Iraq. He's signing the death warrants for countless more of America's fighting men and women.


20 posted on 09/06/2004 10:19:17 AM PDT by jimboster
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To: yonif

"I fought for the U.S. to surrender in Vietnam, and I will do it again in Iraq. I'm Benedict Kerry, and I'm reporting for duty."


21 posted on 09/06/2004 10:19:29 AM PDT by Capt. Jake (Tarheels against Edwards)
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To: Texas Eagle

bttt


22 posted on 09/06/2004 10:19:47 AM PDT by BenLurkin (We have low inflation and and low unemployment.)
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To: yonif

What an idiot!!!


23 posted on 09/06/2004 10:19:58 AM PDT by PilloryHillary (http://www.stopkerrynow)
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To: yonif

OH MY!! I DON'T BELIEVE IT. It sounds as if Senator Kerry is changing his position.


24 posted on 09/06/2004 10:20:05 AM PDT by no dems (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem.... (Psalm 122:6))
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To: yonif

Kerry has proposed handing a great victory to Islamic terrorists everywhere.


25 posted on 09/06/2004 10:20:14 AM PDT by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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To: M Kehoe
I see Kerry's handlers had him drop the sensitive part.

First thing I really noticed too.

FMCDH(BITS)

26 posted on 09/06/2004 10:20:20 AM PDT by nothingnew (KERRY: "If at first you don't deceive, lie, lie again!")
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To: yonif
Now he's off the fence and can't straddle. Well Mr. "I Don't Fall Down", if it's the wrong war, why did you vote for it? Why did you make so many statements in support of it?

Welcome back Deaniacs, goodbye America.

27 posted on 09/06/2004 10:20:30 AM PDT by Dilbert56
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To: etradervic

He's moving left! The self destruction continues.


28 posted on 09/06/2004 10:20:53 AM PDT by WashingtonSource (Freedom is not free)
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To: yonif
Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry has called the invasion of Iraq "the wrong war in the wrong place at the wrong time"

Never mind that he recently said that even knowing what he knows now about the Iraq War he would still have voted to authorize the war.

29 posted on 09/06/2004 10:21:02 AM PDT by Phantom Lord (Advantages are taken, not handed out)
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To: yonif

He will run away just as he ran away in Viet Nam.
Four months of combat service. Five Medals.
What kind of joke is this guy?
Kerry, Stupid Clown!


30 posted on 09/06/2004 10:21:04 AM PDT by crushelits
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To: yonif
Quote: "You've about 500 troops here, 500 troops there and it's American troops that are 90 percent of the combat casualties ..."

At last count other countries had over 23,000 troops on the ground in Iraq with UK @ 9,000 plus Italy, Poland, Australia and many others represented

31 posted on 09/06/2004 10:21:08 AM PDT by VRWCTexan (History has a long memory - but still repeats itself)
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To: yonif

This shameless ploy is designed to get the people disinterested by Kerry's mushy politics interested enough to vote. Young people rarely get up the interest to vote but his people figure he can get them to drag their lazy butts to the polls if he promises they won't have to worry about war messing with their plans.

Furthermore he sees a sizeable muslim voting bloc in the battleground states that he absolutely has to get high turnout in his favor. It appears this group is mobilizing Just read they held a caucus. One of the delegates was that guy Yu, the Champlain who spent a couple of months in the Stockade for taking documents in and out of Guantanamo is fully involved in the political process.


32 posted on 09/06/2004 10:21:11 AM PDT by kinghorse
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To: yonif
Interesting that his own supporters would not let him dodge the Iraq question.

The RATs can try to pretend that terrorists do not exist and that the only thing that matters is healthcare and Social Security, but the American public is not going to fall for it -- not this time at least.

33 posted on 09/06/2004 10:21:26 AM PDT by comebacknewt
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To: yonif

Didn't he say the war had to be fought to be won and he supported the effort just a week or two ago?


34 posted on 09/06/2004 10:21:32 AM PDT by Baynative (The Kerry's paid $677K in taxes on $5.49 million of income in 2003 - THAT'S (only) 12%)
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To: M Kehoe
Question to Flipper ...

Which war, at what time and where would you authorize it to be?

My guess is,
The war against the Republicans,
Now,
and here.

Let the Russians fend for themselves ... they never should have invaded Afghanistan and angered the mooselimbs like we did in Iraq.

International apologies (ala x42) for all of the horrible things we've done to you ... past, present and future.

Please forgive us ...

Don't hit me (just like that scumbag in Russia ... I have children, please, I don't want to die)

I'm so freakin' disgusted with the socialist clap-trap.

35 posted on 09/06/2004 10:21:43 AM PDT by knarf (A place where anyone can learn anything ... especially that which promotes clear thinking.)
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To: yonif
Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry has called the invasion of Iraq "the wrong war in the wrong place at the wrong time"

I really hope the people on our side are going to starting pointing out the fact that Hussein was routinely firing missiles at our pilots in the leadup to the war. It is out and out appeasement for Kerry to say that he wouldn't have fought this war given that Hussein was quite literally attempting to kill our people in the leadup to the war.

36 posted on 09/06/2004 10:21:49 AM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: yonif
"I would not have done just one thing differently than the president on Iraq, I would have done everything differently than the president on Iraq," Kerry said on Monday.

He keeps saying he would do everything differently. But he never says what or how exactly he would do things. Different may be good or not. We don't know. Does Kerry even know? Difference for the sake of being different is not necessarily better.

Kerry's approach to doing everything 'different' is on the same level with his 'I have a plan' but we are never told what that plan is, no details of it, no specifics. At most, he tells us he will wait until after the election to give those specifics.

Kerry expects us to buy a pig in a poke.

The problem with the Kerry campaign is two fold: the messenger, stilted and dry, and the message or lack thereof.
37 posted on 09/06/2004 10:21:58 AM PDT by TomGuy (His VN crumbling, he says 'move on'. So now, John Kerry is running on Bob KerrEy's Senate record.)
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To: yonif

How foolish and presumptuous to claim what he would do "in his first White House term."


38 posted on 09/06/2004 10:21:59 AM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: yonif
"I would have done everything differently..."

So he would have lost the battle to Saddam!!?? Sheesh, what a cretin.

39 posted on 09/06/2004 10:22:13 AM PDT by Thom Pain (Quisling - from Vidkun Quisling (1887-1945), a synonym for "traitor")
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To: yonif
Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry has called the invasion of Iraq "the wrong war in the wrong place at the wrong time" and said his goal was to withdraw U.S. troops in his first White House term.

I guess the troops will be there longer than I expected since Kerry's 1st term in the White House is more likely to be 2040 than 2004.

40 posted on 09/06/2004 10:22:50 AM PDT by hflynn
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To: yonif

Keep the soldiers and just withdraw Kerry, much more effective and simpler to do.


41 posted on 09/06/2004 10:22:52 AM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: yonif

"He also said Washington should make it clear to the world that the United States had no "long-term designs to maintain bases and troops in Iraq."

This guy is amazing. I suspect a part of the reason the US invaded iraq involved forward air-power projection without the vulnerabilities carriers are beginning to have). He is going to give this up??


42 posted on 09/06/2004 10:23:23 AM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
"Kerry promises to surrender in Iraq."

It's his French heritage. In his genes. White flags akimbo. Etc.

Just as he wanted the US to do in Nam. And succeeded in his mission.

43 posted on 09/06/2004 10:24:10 AM PDT by Ole Okie
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To: yonif

Looks like Kerry's looking to fire up his base to save face.


44 posted on 09/06/2004 10:24:21 AM PDT by GoLightly
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To: yonif
Had to check the date on this one. Yep, it's today, Monday, September 6, 2004.

What happened to F'n's plan to put more boots on the ground? I'm thinking I heard that out of one side of his mouth not too long ago.

45 posted on 09/06/2004 10:24:25 AM PDT by don-o (Stop Freeploading. Do the right thing and become a Monthly Donor.)
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To: yonif

"and said his goal was to withdraw U.S. troops in his first White House term. "

So now his "goal" is to get them out by 2009 ?

His "goal" is not to stabalize Iraq so our support will no longer be needed - his "goal" is simply to withdraw ?


46 posted on 09/06/2004 10:24:37 AM PDT by RS (The Truth may be slimy, but it is never slime)
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To: formercalifornian

Saddam is hoping Spitball wins.


47 posted on 09/06/2004 10:24:55 AM PDT by Lori675
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To: Dilbert56
Now he's off the fence and can't straddle. Well Mr. "I Don't Fall Down", if it's the wrong war, why did you vote for it? Why did you make so many statements in support of it?

He'll be back on that fence before you know it. If you don't like Kerry's position, just wait...

48 posted on 09/06/2004 10:25:37 AM PDT by PMCarey
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To: EggsAckley
Egads....this idiot lives and dies by the slogan

Makes you wonder if Jesse Jackson isn't ghost writing his speeches.

49 posted on 09/06/2004 10:25:55 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (I want to die in my sleep like Gramps -- not yelling and screaming like those in his car)
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To: yonif
On the Dick Cavett show where Kerry debated John O'Neill, he was quite confident there would be no bloodbath in Vietnam and our POWs would be sent right home, safe and sound.

He was dead wrong on both counts.

50 posted on 09/06/2004 10:25:57 AM PDT by Ladysmith (Morality anchored to the 'definitions' of man is not anchored at all. - Petronski)
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