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Excess Frugality leads to... A Range Mishap (1911 KaBoom)
The Gun Zone ^ | Patrick A. Rogers

Posted on 09/06/2004 10:41:57 AM PDT by TERMINATTOR

A short-sighted Gunsite student is now short a Series 70 Colt

Series 70 Colt's Government Model after firing a .45 ACP round with a fired .40 S&W cartridge lodged in the BarSto barrel.

Besides being an ugly gun (the only saving grace are the Novak sights...) and having something soooo retro - and unsafe - as a trigger shoe, the owner/operator of said Series 70 did - because he was:

  1. Cheap
  2. Stupid
  3. Both of the above

      ...pick up from the deck a live round of ammunition, with which to continue his 350 class at Gunsite.

Unfortunately, while the pistol is .45 ACP, he picked up a .40 caliber round.

The 'Smithy says:

The .40 round apparently fired, and the case was left somewhere in the chamber. He pressed again and got a click. He applied immediate action... the .45 round pushed the .40 case into the chamber. He pressed the trigger. The .45 round pushed the case partially out of the barrel. The .45 projectile remained in the barrel. The .45 case remained in place against the breachface.

The force went down, splitting the Bar-Sto barrel and bending the dust cover.

Deformed dust cover and rent BarSto barrel

I have always said that some people shouldn't have guns (especially lately - the increase in the number of incidents by students - who all have had exposure to guns, training and such - is rising dramatically) or cars, or children, or oxygen.

I do not permit students to bend over on the line unless i give them permission to do so. This has always been a safety issue. Bending down to pick something up means you are loosing situational awareness. I will permit retrieving magazines and such when the line is clear and I give the command.

But picking up ammunition????? How stupid is that?

This guy apparently was upset that his faithful (but ugly) companion of lo so many years was ruined. And for what? Saving a few cents?

FYI: I was not present when this act of frugality occurred.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: 1911; 40ina45; bang; banglist; frugality; kaboom; series70colt; situationalawareness
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To: Lion Den Dan
All of you would be experts miss the major error here.

You left off the "sarcasm" tag.

If you were not being sarcastic then either stay on your "private range" of sell your guns.

Anybody who does not inspect their ammo before loading it into a weapon is dangerous and should be unarmed.

41 posted on 09/06/2004 2:26:49 PM PDT by Eaker (Deer Camp North Gives a Whole New Meaning to Labor Day Weekend!!!)
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To: Eaker
of = or

Not a dangerous mistake.

42 posted on 09/06/2004 2:28:50 PM PDT by Eaker (Deer Camp North Gives a Whole New Meaning to Labor Day Weekend!!!)
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To: Eaker

LOL!
Reduce cutting fluid to 1/4 normal coffee assistance and see what happens.


43 posted on 09/06/2004 2:31:08 PM PDT by Darksheare (Conquerors of the nice T-shirt!)
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To: TERMINATTOR

I'm just glad the guy's ok. Maybe he'll learn something from this and go on to teach others.

I would also add the practice of not using other's reloads and I don't buy surplus powder.


44 posted on 09/06/2004 2:41:37 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (Vote a Straight Republican Ballot. Rid the country of dems.)
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To: Darksheare; Eaker
My coffee doesn't figure into any of this, does it?

Actually, your coffee came up in discussion this weekend
at the Deer Camp.. as in "Why is Eaker feeling so energetic?"

I made coffee in the dark and mostly failed.. it had to be re-brewed.

The result was quite the enlivening beverage.

45 posted on 09/06/2004 2:46:09 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: humblegunner; Eaker

You brewed it twice, didn't you.
*shuddering*
At least the stuff didn't come out of the nug howling and need to be put down.


46 posted on 09/06/2004 2:47:34 PM PDT by Darksheare (Conquerors of the nice T-shirt!)
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To: humblegunner; Eaker

MUG!!
MUG!!
MUUuuuug!

Today isn't my day either.
I'm going to take my typos and hide now.


47 posted on 09/06/2004 2:49:56 PM PDT by Darksheare (Conquerors of the nice T-shirt!)
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To: Comus

Those super-duper .38 Super loads are one reason I don't shoot anybody alse's reloads. I have a Series 70 .38 Super in near-NIB condition, and I love to run a box of factory ammo through it once in a blue moon. The .38 Super was the preferred caliber of the Dillinger gang, on the theory it would penetrate the body armor of the '30's.


48 posted on 09/06/2004 3:10:26 PM PDT by ozzymandus ("So it is written, so it shall be danced"-Al Bundy)
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To: Eaker
Saw the thread and thought Eeeeek don't like 1911's how'd one blow up ?:o)

Stay safe Eeeeek !

49 posted on 09/06/2004 3:12:26 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. )
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To: Darksheare; Eaker; TexasCowboy; Squantos; Tijeras_Slim
Also a must-have for field ops is Eaker's ribeye chili!


50 posted on 09/06/2004 3:14:57 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: humblegunner
Hopefully that's the top half of a paper towel roll vs what Eaker told ya was chili on that table........:o)

Stay safe !

51 posted on 09/06/2004 3:18:11 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. )
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To: humblegunner; Eaker

Believe it or not, my stomach cannot handle chili or similarly spicy things.
But it CAN handle my coffee.
Weird..


52 posted on 09/06/2004 3:28:44 PM PDT by Darksheare (Conquerors of the nice T-shirt!)
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To: humblegunner; Darksheare; Eaker; TexasCowboy; Squantos

You guys have all the fun!

PS: Just to get even... Shot my new to me Smith Mod 25 in 45 ACP (vintage 1959) this weekend, got groups equal to my Kimber Gold Match. Some guy selling off his father's estate... 99%+ with cokebottle grips... $350.

I'm still doing the happy dance.


53 posted on 09/06/2004 4:08:18 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (W-04!)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

*weeping*


54 posted on 09/06/2004 4:11:21 PM PDT by Darksheare (Conquerors of the nice T-shirt!)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
Awwwww and I didn't get you nothin Slim........when can I come get it ?;O)

Sounds like an exellent buy my friend. One of my favorite little plinkers is a new 44 Bulldog Pug from Charter Arms I picked up a few years ago. Outstanding accuracy with GDHP Blazer ammo in 200gr recipe. Have fun with yer treasure !

Stay safe !

55 posted on 09/06/2004 4:12:38 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. )
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To: Darksheare

Since this is a GOP "no gloat zone" I neglected to tell about the vintage 1962 Model 27-2 I snagged from the same guy.


56 posted on 09/06/2004 4:13:11 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (W-04!)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Snagged, likely at a good price...
*bawling*
You're going to have to get good images of them.


57 posted on 09/06/2004 4:14:31 PM PDT by Darksheare (Conquerors of the nice T-shirt!)
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To: Squantos
A .44 Special is the only thing left in my current Smith wish list. Triplelocks are out, but a nice Model 24 would be nice.

I have let a couple salesmen at various firearms establishments around town know that there is a "finders fee" for things I want. Just tuck it under the counter and give me a call. If I don't buy it, I still give them half. It works wonders.

58 posted on 09/06/2004 4:16:10 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (W-04!)
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To: Darksheare

Well, it was nice to finally get a good gun deal. I figure that I'm still well into the 4 figure range in the minus column. I'm just silly that way.


59 posted on 09/06/2004 4:18:52 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (W-04!)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

*chuckle*
Yes, I'd be somewhat picky about that myself.


60 posted on 09/06/2004 4:19:51 PM PDT by Darksheare (Conquerors of the nice T-shirt!)
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